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    1. [NJESSEX] Spring Genealogy Program -- 21 April 2007
    2. Michelle Chubenko
    3. The Genealogical Society of New Jersey and the Genealogical Society of Bergen County cordially invite you to join us for an all day Spring Genealogy Seminar. This special all-day event will offer a variety of genealogical information for both aspiring family historians and seasoned researchers. Enjoy a program presented by three noted and engaging professionals. Book vendors will be on hand and local societies will be participating in an display area. When: 21 April 2007, 9:00am to 3:00 pm Where: Bergen Community College, Paramus NJ Speakers: Patricia Law Hatcher, FASG, Michelle Chubenko, and Larry Fermi Program: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsnj/2007Spring.htm Registration required and includes a printed or CD-Rom syllabus. Box lunches can be ordered. Posted by: -- Michelle Tucker Chubenko GSNJ Trustee

    03/15/2007 03:52:31
    1. Re: [NJESSEX] Is anyone researching the name BACCARI or BLUNT?
    2. Gail Benson
    3. My Mom had a cousin whose last name was Parks - he married a Tillie Blunt sometime in the 1940's I think. They lived in the Orange area. Don't know where she was from. If she is in your line, perhaps I can help with more info. Lonna717@aol.com wrote: I am researching the BACCARI family of Newark and the BLUNT family, also of Newark. If anyone has either of these names in their research, PLEASE contact me. Thanks. Lonna ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJESSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta.

    03/13/2007 06:56:31
    1. Re: [NJESSEX] GEORGE MEISTER
    2. His e-mail is _george.meister@gmx.de_ (mailto:george.meister@gmx.de) Pat Cannella <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

    03/13/2007 05:20:28
    1. [NJESSEX] Is anyone researching the name BACCARI or BLUNT?
    2. I am researching the BACCARI family of Newark and the BLUNT family, also of Newark. If anyone has either of these names in their research, PLEASE contact me. Thanks. Lonna <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

    03/13/2007 04:56:08
    1. [NJESSEX] GEORGE MEISTER
    2. I am looking for George MEISTER who was a subscriber to this list a couple of years ago. He had a German email service provider, but his email address is not valid anymore. Does anyone know how to contact him? Thanks for any help. Louise Novello NW of Chicago ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

    03/13/2007 03:46:17
    1. Re: [NJESSEX] Problems with Posts Disappearing
    2. Lucy Russell
    3. Hi Shawn: Thanks for the update and the tips. I had the frustrating experience of missing posts to the NJEssex mailing list. I'll keep trying. Lucy Russell On 3/12/07, SHAWN DEMPSEY <shawnpdempsey@msn.com> wrote: > > I haven't heard any recent complaints about posts disappearing. Either it > isn't happening anymore or people have given up asking about it. I suspect > the latter. > > One of the admin lists I belong to just had a long discussion about the > very > problem we were having: i.e. posts disappearing into a black hole. > > This has been happening to many other lists, not just ours. > > Here are some of the points made: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ... it is also known that now that the SPAM filters have been tightened, > more > mail is disappearing. Please make sure that your list subscribers > know that > they must send all posts in Plain Text. Emails in HTML disappear without > a > trace. > > ----- > .... with the increased tightening of the spam filters some > legit list mail is being lost--just disappearing. When a message just > "disappears" like that with no bounce or notice--the problem is either > HTML > embedded > in the message or something that got caught in the spam filters. If it > is > the latter, suggest the person change the subject a bit and see if that > works. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Many other admins noted that they had done all of the above but legit, > text-based messages were still disappearing. > > So to reiterate one more time (redundant?): > If you have a message that "disappears" or doesn't post within 24-hours > check the following: > 1. Make sure you are sending only text-based messages. No background > images > in the email > 2. No attached files > 3. Trying changing/modifying the subject line slightly > 4. Repost your message > 5. If it doesn't show up a second time send me a copy at > shawnpdempsey@msn.com and I'll post it for you. > > According to the admin list rootsweb has made a lot of changing over the > past 6 months and they are still working out some issues. > > Thanks, > > Shawn Dempsey > Essex County Mailing List Moderator, > NJGenWeb County Coordinator, Essex County NJ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njessex > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJESSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    03/13/2007 03:18:25
    1. [NJESSEX] Problems with Posts Disappearing
    2. SHAWN DEMPSEY
    3. I haven't heard any recent complaints about posts disappearing. Either it isn't happening anymore or people have given up asking about it. I suspect the latter. One of the admin lists I belong to just had a long discussion about the very problem we were having: i.e. posts disappearing into a black hole. This has been happening to many other lists, not just ours. Here are some of the points made: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ... it is also known that now that the SPAM filters have been tightened, more mail is disappearing. Please make sure that your list subscribers know that they must send all posts in Plain Text. Emails in HTML disappear without a trace. ----- .... with the increased tightening of the spam filters some legit list mail is being lost--just disappearing. When a message just "disappears" like that with no bounce or notice--the problem is either HTML embedded in the message or something that got caught in the spam filters. If it is the latter, suggest the person change the subject a bit and see if that works. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Many other admins noted that they had done all of the above but legit, text-based messages were still disappearing. So to reiterate one more time (redundant?): If you have a message that "disappears" or doesn't post within 24-hours check the following: 1. Make sure you are sending only text-based messages. No background images in the email 2. No attached files 3. Trying changing/modifying the subject line slightly 4. Repost your message 5. If it doesn't show up a second time send me a copy at shawnpdempsey@msn.com and I'll post it for you. According to the admin list rootsweb has made a lot of changing over the past 6 months and they are still working out some issues. Thanks, Shawn Dempsey Essex County Mailing List Moderator, NJGenWeb County Coordinator, Essex County NJ http://www.rootsweb.com/~njessex

    03/12/2007 11:41:36
    1. Re: [NJESSEX] Church Records - What Can Be Found
    2. Maria Celano
    3. Thank you Sharon this was informative .... from Maria Melbourne, Victoria, Australia On 3/12/07, SHAWN DEMPSEY <shawnpdempsey@msn.com> wrote: > > Yesterday I attended my monthly meeting of the Parker Genealogical Society > of Colorado (PGS). I am also their webmaster. > > The guest speak, Valerie Eichler, spoke about Church Records, what can be > found and what types of records may be available. I jotted down some notes > and thought I would share it with you all. > > The following is not a complete list but something to think about when > looking for church records. Not all churches will have all of these > records. > But you may want to make inquiries of the churches you are researching to > see just what they do have. > > 1. Looking for Birth, marriage, death records check the following sources > for church references: > Certificates are filed at various levels of government. And if missing in > one location may be available in another. > a. State Certificates > b. County Certificates > c. Church Certificates > > 2. Removal & Arrival Records > Churches kept records of people leaving and arriving to and from their > church. Some records may only record names. Other records may record where > they came from, or went to, various events in a person's life, who they > were > related to, etc. > a. Removal Records - record people leaving a church community > b. Arrval Records - record people coming into a church community > > 3. Communion Records > > 4. Confirmation Records > > 5. List of Communicants - a listing of members who received communion (can > be recorded weekly, monthly, annually). This is considered a good > substitute > for census records especially the missing 1890 Census. > > 6. Membership Lists - lists of members of a church. Could contain just a > list of names. Or more information like dates of events, addresses, > relatives, etc. > > 7. Minutes - notes on meetings, events, records all information about a > group and what is happening in the community. > a. Protestant churches - usually call their minutes "Vestry" > b. Lutheran churches - usually call their minutes "Sessions" > c. Baptist churches - usually call their minutes "Meeting Records" > > 8. Church Denomination Archive > Each church denomination has it's own archive - the keeper(s) of church > records. If a church doesn't exist any more try to locate the Archive that > might contain it's records. Some churches will regularly submit their > records to its archive to ensure they survive. > > Hope this gives you all some new directions for looking at church records. > > > Shawn Dempsey > Essex County Email List Moderator, > NJGenWeb County Coordinator, Essex County NJ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njessex > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJESSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    03/12/2007 09:48:06
    1. Re: [NJESSEX] NJESSEX Digest, Vol 2, Issue 85
    2. I must say that with the recent(ahem) attention to genealogy paid by so many people, it seems more and more churches are doing history books w. info(names and dates of what entailed) in them to sell and raise money. i think its a great project and suggested it to the church where my gggp's belonged and my gggf was baptised and married-and his wife also-but they have no interest in putting together a book of info- go figure. matawan churches have done some and some of hte matawan cemeteries are done in books-i dont have all of them however-would love to have rose hill cemetery of matawan- but i know that they are done, which is something many of you in whatever church you belong to, may want to suggest doing, to raise money for your churches. what church ever says they have enough money? none of them. its interesting for me to see that my husb. father joined the methodist church in matawan, transferring from morganville/marlboro church and the wedding of his parents etc.and of many of my friends families history lines= well im done rambling- no need to answer this, as i just wanted to put a flame under some one to get their records done and safe as the church i was married and baptised and all in. had the records burn last yr. if a book had been done, i could use that for records. linda <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

    03/12/2007 09:01:06
    1. Re: [NJESSEX] Church Records - What Can Be Found
    2. Linda Muessig
    3. Many old church records were kept in a private home. Many were kept at the parish level. Some were disposed of by disinterested family or none family, that may have settled an estate. Some were filed at the state level of the particular denomination. I am speaking here only from personal experience as my church historian for the United Methodist Church of Bloomsbury, Hunterdon County. Some are on file at Drew University. But not ALL by any means. So I hope you who are trying to search out Methodists will find this helpful. I just wish we had not lost our burial records as well as that of many others. With the changing of pastors it's entirely possible that some were held at the parsonage and got packed up and moved as the pastors moved too. ;( All bad luck for us who are so interested in all this information. Perhaps others of Protestant denominations can also fill us in on how the others operated. Don't forget there were also traveling pastors who actually had no parish long before the churches were even built. Some of them have been documented and some have not. In the very early records denomination, as long as staying within the same group (Protestants) vs. Roman Catholic it really didn't make a lot of difference who they used. As long as it was their group and in the area at the time. Linda Huff Muessig ----- Original Message ----- From: "SHAWN DEMPSEY" <shawnpdempsey@msn.com> To: <njessex@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 8:24 PM Subject: [NJESSEX] Church Records - What Can Be Found > Yesterday I attended my monthly meeting of the Parker Genealogical Society > of Colorado (PGS). I am also their webmaster. > > The guest speak, Valerie Eichler, spoke about Church Records, what can be > found and what types of records may be available. I jotted down some notes > and thought I would share it with you all. > > The following is not a complete list but something to think about when > looking for church records. Not all churches will have all of these > records. > But you may want to make inquiries of the churches you are researching to > see just what they do have. > > 1. Looking for Birth, marriage, death records check the following sources > for church references: > Certificates are filed at various levels of government. And if missing in > one location may be available in another. > a. State Certificates > b. County Certificates > c. Church Certificates > > 2. Removal & Arrival Records > Churches kept records of people leaving and arriving to and from their > church. Some records may only record names. Other records may record where > they came from, or went to, various events in a person's life, who they > were > related to, etc. > a. Removal Records - record people leaving a church community > b. Arrval Records - record people coming into a church community > > 3. Communion Records > > 4. Confirmation Records > > 5. List of Communicants - a listing of members who received communion (can > be recorded weekly, monthly, annually). This is considered a good > substitute > for census records especially the missing 1890 Census. > > 6. Membership Lists - lists of members of a church. Could contain just a > list of names. Or more information like dates of events, addresses, > relatives, etc. > > 7. Minutes - notes on meetings, events, records all information about a > group and what is happening in the community. > a. Protestant churches - usually call their minutes "Vestry" > b. Lutheran churches - usually call their minutes "Sessions" > c. Baptist churches - usually call their minutes "Meeting Records" > > 8. Church Denomination Archive > Each church denomination has it's own archive - the keeper(s) of church > records. If a church doesn't exist any more try to locate the Archive that > might contain it's records. Some churches will regularly submit their > records to its archive to ensure they survive. > > Hope this gives you all some new directions for looking at church records. > > > Shawn Dempsey > Essex County Email List Moderator, > NJGenWeb County Coordinator, Essex County NJ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njessex > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJESSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/11/2007 03:04:30
    1. [NJESSEX] [J] JAMES, South Orange (1903 -1937)
    2. Jodee James
    3. Hello all, My "J" is the JAMES family - My grgrandfather Henry JAMES, b 1855 England, lived at 371 Academy Street, South Orange from c1906 until his death in 1933. He married Sarah HALE in London on 6 July 1891, left for America just 2 days later on board the Indiana, arriving Philly from Liverpool. They lived a short time in Jersey City before moving to South Orange abt 1903. He had a painting/decorating business. They were members of the Church of the Holy Communion in So. Orange. i have some info on Henry JAMES, lots on Sarah HALE (b London 1870) and their sons Harry (my grandfather) and Arthur, but little on their other children. i'd be over the moon to hear from any of the families - They had the following children: 1. Harry JAMES (Henry John Robert) b. Kensington, London, Eng. 3 May 1892, married Blanche Olive SMITH on 11 Nov 1911. She was the dau. of Elmer SMITH and Laura Emma KISSELBACH who lived at 320 Valley Street, So. Orange. The families had adjacent backyards. They had 5 children, including my father, Robert S JAMES. 2. Robert JAMES was b. 7 Jun 1894, Kensington, London, Eng. He married Emma Mary (last name unknown) and had one son, Robert, b. Apr 1920. Robert JAMES d. 27 May 1921 in So Orange, age 27, after falling from a livery truck. The family lost touch with Emma and son. 3. Arthur Edward JAMES b. 13 Aug 1896, Jersey City, NJ, married Ruth DAY in 1911 at age 15! They lived in So Orange & Springfield and had 3 daughters, Doris, Grace and Ruth. Arthur JAMES d. 30 Oct 1970. 4. Edith Elizabeth JAMES was b. 16 Feb 1900, Jersey City, NJ and married William DAVIS. They had two sons - William A & Charles R. She died, age 21, on 22 Dec 1921 in So Orange. The boys were raised by each of their grandparents. 5. George Fredrick JAMES was b. 24 Jul 1905 in So Orange. According to the 1930 So. Orange census George married "Elsie J" c1923. He later married Evelyn HOFFMAN. i don't know if they had any children. i believe they moved to Maryland. i was told he was a professional golfer? 6. Albert Charles JAMES was b. 11 Feb 1916 in So Orange and died 8 Dec 1932, age 16. Thanks so much! Jodee James Family Webpage: http://redragon.tribalpages.com/ jodeejames@att.net

    03/11/2007 01:29:12
    1. [NJESSEX] Church Records - What Can Be Found
    2. SHAWN DEMPSEY
    3. Yesterday I attended my monthly meeting of the Parker Genealogical Society of Colorado (PGS). I am also their webmaster. The guest speak, Valerie Eichler, spoke about Church Records, what can be found and what types of records may be available. I jotted down some notes and thought I would share it with you all. The following is not a complete list but something to think about when looking for church records. Not all churches will have all of these records. But you may want to make inquiries of the churches you are researching to see just what they do have. 1. Looking for Birth, marriage, death records check the following sources for church references: Certificates are filed at various levels of government. And if missing in one location may be available in another. a. State Certificates b. County Certificates c. Church Certificates 2. Removal & Arrival Records Churches kept records of people leaving and arriving to and from their church. Some records may only record names. Other records may record where they came from, or went to, various events in a person's life, who they were related to, etc. a. Removal Records - record people leaving a church community b. Arrval Records - record people coming into a church community 3. Communion Records 4. Confirmation Records 5. List of Communicants - a listing of members who received communion (can be recorded weekly, monthly, annually). This is considered a good substitute for census records especially the missing 1890 Census. 6. Membership Lists - lists of members of a church. Could contain just a list of names. Or more information like dates of events, addresses, relatives, etc. 7. Minutes - notes on meetings, events, records all information about a group and what is happening in the community. a. Protestant churches - usually call their minutes "Vestry" b. Lutheran churches - usually call their minutes "Sessions" c. Baptist churches - usually call their minutes "Meeting Records" 8. Church Denomination Archive Each church denomination has it's own archive - the keeper(s) of church records. If a church doesn't exist any more try to locate the Archive that might contain it's records. Some churches will regularly submit their records to its archive to ensure they survive. Hope this gives you all some new directions for looking at church records. Shawn Dempsey Essex County Email List Moderator, NJGenWeb County Coordinator, Essex County NJ http://www.rootsweb.com/~njessex

    03/11/2007 11:24:25
    1. [NJESSEX] Fw: [NJSUSSEX] County Breakdown
    2. Justine Peterson
    3. Sorry about this but clicked before I was finished and also hadn't corrected my mistakes. Justine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justine Peterson" <justinep11@cox.net> To: <njessex@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [NJESSEX] [NJSUSSEX] County Breakdown > Thought this interesting. Remember in Wm's death notice his son lied in > Burlington VT and I think that was NJ. and that would b before Rev. Wm. > Justine > I also have Wm. L dead at > > > : [NJESSEX] [NJSUSSEX] County Breakdo New Jersey County > County Seat >> Original County Organized >> Atlantic Mays Landing >> Gloucester County 1837 >> Bergen Hackensack >> Original County 1683 >> Burlington Mount Holly >> Original County 1694 >> Camden Camden >> Gloucester County 1844 >> Cape May Cape May >> Cumberland County 1692 >> Cumberland Bridgeton >> Salem County 1784 >> Essex Newark >> Original County 1683 >> Gloucester Woodbury >> Original County 1686 >> Hudson Jersey City >> Bergen County 1840 >> Hunterdon Flemington >> Burlington County 1714 >> Mercer Trenton >> Hunterdon, Middlesex 1838 >> Counties >> Middlesex New Brunswick >> Original County 1683 >> Monmouth Freehold >> Original County 1683 >> Morris Morristown >> Hunterdon County 1739 >> Ocean Toms River >> Monmouth 1850 >> Passaic Patterson >> Bergen, Sussex Counties 1837 >> Salem Salem >> Original County 1694 >> Somerset Somerville >> Middlesex County 1688 >> SUSSEX Newton >> Morris County 1753 >> Union Elizabeth >> Essex County 1857 >> Warren Belvidere >> Sussex County 1824 >> KEY 1830 Federal Census >> Sample Format: >> Name County State >> Page Township >> Smith, John W Essex Co. NJ >> 351 Newark Twp. >> NAME: >> This is the name of the head of the family. >> COUNTY, STATE & TOWNSHIP >> This is the place where the person was living as indicated in the >> original >> census records. >> PAGE: >> The page number indicates where the name may be located in the original >> census record. > > > >

    03/11/2007 08:26:44
    1. Re: [NJESSEX] [NJSUSSEX] County Breakdown
    2. Justine Peterson
    3. Thought this interesting. Remember in Wm's death notice his son lied in Burlington VT and I think that was NJ. and that would b before Rev. Wm. Justine I also have Wm. L dead at : [NJESSEX] [NJSUSSEX] County Breakdo New Jersey County County Seat > Original County Organized > Atlantic Mays Landing > Gloucester County 1837 > Bergen Hackensack > Original County 1683 > Burlington Mount Holly > Original County 1694 > Camden Camden > Gloucester County 1844 > Cape May Cape May > Cumberland County 1692 > Cumberland Bridgeton > Salem County 1784 > Essex Newark > Original County 1683 > Gloucester Woodbury > Original County 1686 > Hudson Jersey City > Bergen County 1840 > Hunterdon Flemington > Burlington County 1714 > Mercer Trenton > Hunterdon, Middlesex 1838 > Counties > Middlesex New Brunswick > Original County 1683 > Monmouth Freehold > Original County 1683 > Morris Morristown > Hunterdon County 1739 > Ocean Toms River > Monmouth 1850 > Passaic Patterson > Bergen, Sussex Counties 1837 > Salem Salem > Original County 1694 > Somerset Somerville > Middlesex County 1688 > SUSSEX Newton > Morris County 1753 > Union Elizabeth > Essex County 1857 > Warren Belvidere > Sussex County 1824 > KEY 1830 Federal Census > Sample Format: > Name County State > Page Township > Smith, John W Essex Co. NJ > 351 Newark Twp. > NAME: > This is the name of the head of the family. > COUNTY, STATE & TOWNSHIP > This is the place where the person was living as indicated in the original > census records. > PAGE: > The page number indicates where the name may be located in the original > census record. >

    03/11/2007 08:19:58
    1. [NJESSEX] (H) HILDENBRANDT - Newark
    2. RE: HILDENBRANDT - Newark I am sorry to have missed the H requests. Catharina HILDENBRANDT (age 24) married Aloysius BRETZ (age 32) at St. Benedict's Church in Newark on 21 Jan 1889. Catharina's parents were: Francis HILDENBRANDT and Elizabeth KEMPF. Looking to find their descendants. Louise Novello Des Plaines, IL ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

    03/11/2007 06:46:42
    1. Re: [NJESSEX] Church Records - What Can Be Found
    2. Richard Brandstetter
    3. Not all name on the Church Membership list have to be member. I hade to call the list of a Catholic CH for a Photo year Book .The list had about 3500 families on it about 1200 were not Members over the years the church added names of a Bus drivers ,a cooks , friends of the Church and any one that may have worked for the church over the years . Just keep it in mine that not all church list are Gospel . Sorry just have say that. > 6. Membership Lists - lists of members of a church. Could contain just a . > list of names. Or more information like dates of events, addresses, > relatives, etc. Richard Brandstetter brandstetter.photo@att.net www.weddings-nj.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "SHAWN DEMPSEY" <shawnpdempsey@msn.com> To: <njessex@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 7:24 PM Subject: [NJESSEX] Church Records - What Can Be Found > Yesterday I attended my monthly meeting of the Parker Genealogical Society > of Colorado (PGS). I am also their webmaster. > > The guest speak, Valerie Eichler, spoke about Church Records, what can be > found and what types of records may be available. I jotted down some notes > and thought I would share it with you all. > > The following is not a complete list but something to think about when > looking for church records. Not all churches will have all of these > records. > But you may want to make inquiries of the churches you are researching to > see just what they do have. >

    03/11/2007 03:28:29
    1. Re: [NJESSEX] Mravlag naturalization & Evergreen Cemetery
    2. Yes I am aware of Dr. Victor Mravlag's standing in the Elizabeth community including the fact that he was the mayor and quite a politition. I do have a collection of histories, newpaper articles, etc. about the family. His first wife Lucy Allen Griffith Mravlag was also a physician. I have his family history back to 1743 in Graz Slovenia (Austria) and his college years in Vienna. I called Evergreen Cemetery. The first two phone calls went to voice mail which I never got a callback. Finally on the 3rd call a person answered who said she was in the office alone and had no time to do a thorough search for me. She did gave me the burial location by phone for Cordelia Mravlag. But when I asked about any other Mravlag she started giving me the run-around. When I mentioned her husband Victor Mravlag being cremated she said that he is interred with Cordelia. After I mentioned their son who died in the early 1900's she said he is buried next to them. It was like pulling teeth. Finally she said that I have to send a written request with $25.00 for a more thorough search. I know that Victor Srs. first wife is buried there too as I have her death certificate. They say they have no burial location for her. I think she may be buried under her maiden name or something else as she was always referred to as Lucy Allen Griffith Mravlag. I did mail the $25 and a letter requesting a thorough search of records. BTW she said they had to bring in someone special to do this search for me. Mary Jeffrey Angelo <Paroli@worldnet.att.net> wrote: Mary- Since you live in Wisconsin, I'm not sure if you're aware of the significance of the Mravlag surname within Elizabeth, N.J. The present Mravlag Manor(built in 1930's?)as subsidized housing. I believe it is still owned by the City of Elizabeth. My understanding is that Dr. Mravlag(Victor?) was a much respected and influential resident of the City. Try the Elizabeth Public Library for family history, City Directories and/or obits. Family name well known in Elizabeth with biographical info. I'm certain a few other list members are knowledgable re: Mravlag. The clerical staff at Evergreen Cemetery are people who have lived most of their lives in the Elizabeth and Newark area. They're probably familiar with the Mravlag name. Arm yourself with as much family history as you can to establish your connection to Elizabeth, N.J. and the Mravlag name. Then call the office and engage them in conversation re: request for burial info. They receive many written requests from individuals across the U.S. Save time and possibly get more info. if you establish a verbal contact with them. susan ---- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [NJESSEX] Mravlag naturalization & Evergreen Cemetery > > In a message dated 3/8/2007 4:31:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > mafu51wi@yahoo.com writes: > > Before I order films from the LDS, I am wondering where I could get a > Petition for Naturalization for Victor Mravlag naturalized about 1878. > He lived in > Elizabeth NJ so I assume this took place in the Union County Court > System. > Are these available if I call the courthouse. > > I have checked the Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness for someone who > would photograph/research at Evergreen Cemetery. Being unfamiliar with > Union > County I am wondering if there is anyone who I could contact to do this > for me. > I have made a written request for a search (with a check) to Evergreen > Cemetery per their instructions, but to date have gotten no response from > them. I > am interested in photographs which they don't do. > > Thank you, > > Mary > Wisconsin > > > > > http://communities.msn.com/genealogy2000 > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/genealogy2002/ > > --------------------------------- > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJESSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > > > > If you enter the grave into the Find A Grave database > (_www.findagrave.com_ > (http://www.findagrave.com) ), you can request a free photograph of the > headstone. They have photo volunteers who are not allowed to accept > money for > photos. > > Linda > Danbury CT > ************************************** AOL now offers free > email to everyone. 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    03/11/2007 03:23:39
    1. Re: [NJESSEX] Holy Sepulchre cemetery
    2. Dolores Brown
    3. My grandmother who died in 1931 is buried in the Saints section. Luckily when I went there the workers drove to the location and I followed behind. They walked off the number of plots and showed me where my grandmother was buried. She did not have a headstone. Perhaps some may have originally had flat stones but perhaps after so many years they are covered over. The cemetery was able to tell me according to their records she did not have any type of headstone. Upon leaving, I gave the gentlemen $10.00. They didn't want to take it but I insisted. It was well worth the $10.00 to see the grave of my grandmother who I never got to meet. Regards, Dolores, Fontana, Ca. -----Original Message----- From: njessex-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:njessex-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of SHAWN DEMPSEY Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 1:01 AM To: njessex@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NJESSEX] Holy Sepulchre cemetery Dan, Jack is exactly right. And the Saints Sections are the oldest sections in the cemetery. Walking around you will see lots of areas with no headstones. But according to staff the Saints sections are completely full. Just some people could not afford headstones including some of my ancestors who are in the row called St Kevins. I hate to sound like a broken record but have your relatives call the cemetery office ahead of time, set a time for them to go there, and they will have a grounds keeper take them out to the exact plot. That's how I found my St. Kevins plot. I would never have figured it out without their help. Shawn List Admin/Moderator >From: "jaxon2@juno.com" <jaxon2@juno.com> >Reply-To: njessex@rootsweb.com >To: njessex@rootsweb.com >CC: NJESSEX@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [NJESSEX] Holy Sepulchre cemetery >Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 23:37:34 GMT > >Dan, >The other response was pretty good. >If you are standing at the main entrance to the cemetery and walk straight >in....you will walk into six sections referred to as the 'Saints Sections' >--- each section is broken down into paths and each path is labeled with a >Saints name. Thats all that is on the small map I received from the office >staff. >Cheers, Jack > >-- "Dan McFeeley" <mcfeeley@keynet.net> wrote: >Hello all -- > >Is anyone on this list familiar with Holy Sepulchre >cemetery, in East Orange? > >We were able to locate the grave certificates for >our Irish immigrant family, Michael and Susie >McFeeley, and their children, in the St. Gervase >and Protase section, but my NJ cousins (I'm a NJ >native living in Illinois) have had difficulty finding >the exact site. > >Here are photobucket links to scanned images >of the certificates for our great grandparents >Michael and Susie McFeeley: > >http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/mcfeeley/michael.jpg > >http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/mcfeeley/susie.jpg > >Would anyone have any tips on where the site might be? >They may be grave markers buried under the snow right >now, and difficult to find. > >-- Dan McFeeley > Kankakee, Illinois > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >NJESSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >NJESSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJESSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/11/2007 01:52:26
    1. Re: [NJESSEX] NEW LETTER - LETTER [J]
    2. SHAWN DEMPSEY
    3. Hi All, (forgot to change the subject line in the last email .... again) Well after great 'H' postings we didn't receive a single 'I' posting. I kind of expected that, though thought we might get one or two. Let's move on to the letter 'J'. RULES: ======================================= 1. Your subject line: [NJESSEX] [J] SURNAME - city So if you are researching the surname JAMES in Newark your subject line should read [NJESSEX] [J] JAMES - Newark or if you have a timeframe it could also be [NJESSEX] [J] JAMES - Newark (1880-1900) 2. Maximum time devoted to a single letter with be 1 week 3. Minimum time will be 48-hours if there's not a lot of activity or response 4. Surnames should be all CAPS to stand out 5. If you have a long surname then keep the subject line short. Long subject lines will get cut-off by your email program. Reserve important details for the text in the body. 6. Body - be precise. List pertinent names, dates, events, questions in the body text. 7. Important: list dates/years if known. Your John Anderson born in 1900 will not be the same as someone elses John Anderson born in 1875. But without any dates noone will know. 8. When replying about any NAME asked for, reply to the LIST, not just to the sender. Members who may have ancillary connections, will get the benefit. And we'll make new friends as well! 9. Finally, close your email with your name and your email address. 10. HAVE FUN !!!!!! If you have any questions, PLEASE, don't hesitate to contact me. Have fun posting! Shawn Dempsey Essex County Email List Moderator, NJGenWeb County Coordinator, Essex County NJ http://www.rootsweb.com/~njessex

    03/10/2007 07:10:10
    1. Re: [NJESSEX] NEW LETTER - LETTER [I]
    2. SHAWN DEMPSEY
    3. Hi All, Well after great 'H' postings we didn't receive a single 'I' posting. I kind of expected that, though thought we might get one or two. Let's move on to the letter 'J'. RULES: ======================================= 1. Your subject line: [NJESSEX] [J] SURNAME - city So if you are researching the surname JAMES in Newark your subject line should read [NJESSEX] [J] JAMES - Newark or if you have a timeframe it could also be [NJESSEX] [J] JAMES - Newark (1880-1900) 2. Maximum time devoted to a single letter with be 1 week 3. Minimum time will be 48-hours if there's not a lot of activity or response 4. Surnames should be all CAPS to stand out 5. If you have a long surname then keep the subject line short. Long subject lines will get cut-off by your email program. Reserve important details for the text in the body. 6. Body - be precise. List pertinent names, dates, events, questions in the body text. 7. Important: list dates/years if known. Your John Anderson born in 1900 will not be the same as someone elses John Anderson born in 1875. But without any dates noone will know. 8. When replying about any NAME asked for, reply to the LIST, not just to the sender. Members who may have ancillary connections, will get the benefit. And we'll make new friends as well! 9. Finally, close your email with your name and your email address. 10. HAVE FUN !!!!!! If you have any questions, PLEASE, don't hesitate to contact me. Have fun posting! Shawn Dempsey Essex County Email List Moderator, NJGenWeb County Coordinator, Essex County NJ http://www.rootsweb.com/~njessex

    03/10/2007 07:04:06