I checked out the Ball/Miles line and sent a letter to wmgmiles@ix.net.com.com and was returned.: content below Checked out the Ball genealogy site and came across some of my surnames. My ggf Rev. William H. McCormick b-Morristown, NJ 1832 had a younger brother Osborne that died at 1 1/2 years of age and buried in lst. Presbyterian Church of Newark, NJ. Bedell is said to be related to Rev. William so it was said at Bedell Funeral Home, Tottenville, NJ. by Dr. Herbert V. McCormick b-1869 who was one of Rev. Wm's sons. Rev. Wm.'s oldest son was Rev. Charles Wesley 1856 President of Centennial Methodist College in Hackettstown, NJ and died in Orange, NJ 1920. His daughter Josephine Martin who lived in Scotch Plains and wrote a few books on history of NJ. Your line also mentions Force --Rev. Wm's wife was Josephine Force of Rahway, NJ line. Meeker, Pierson & Ogden were related by marriage.My gf Samuel Smith 1873 NJ was named after Elwell Samuel Ogden Rev. Wm had a son willlam L living in Westfield who had two sons one of which was Edwin. The father of Rev. William was Hiram G. McCormick married to Ginnette (Janet) Munroe at lst. Methodist Church of Morris Co. 1828. He was a long time shoemaker in Newark, NJ. Any connection. Justine McCormick ----- Original Message ----- From: <ChekWriter@aol.com> To: <AudreyHancock1939@sbcglobal.net>; <MILLS@rootsweb.com>; <njessex@rootsweb.com> Cc: <njunion@rootweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [NJESSEX] [MILLS] Richard MILLS-Sarah OGDEN > Let us not forget the Colonel James MILLS and Sarah REED family too of > Sussex Co. NJ. > > James B: 1756, and Sarah dau of Azer REED and Sarah SUTTON of Sussex Co. > NJ. > > James and Sarah removed through Pine ? PA to Hamilton Co. Ohio, then north > to Darke Co. Ohio where they lived and died. > > I would also like to find for all the lists, who was this James' > parents?? > Is he the Richard Jr. aka James??? Brother to Richard Sr, son of Samuel > Previously listed by Audrey. > > Thanks be to all of you. > > That would help to end my total curiosity on that great family MILLS line. > Love to have a DNA sample for the group. > > Might also shed some light on the John MILLS, of advanced age, I am sure, > who married Elizabeth SUTTON HAYDON/HAYDEN, Elizabeth was age ca 80 years > old. > John sold off her estate, and posted on gencircles.com family page, says > that > John did not SHARE any with Elizabeth's family?? (Morris or Sussex Co. NJ) > > Which John MILLS could that have been?? They married early 1800's or so, > and > Elizabeth died 1817. > > Just bits and pieces, that is all I have at this point. > > Cheers, > > Pat > cw > > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJESSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.7/830 - Release Date: 6/3/2007 > 12:47 PM > >

Hello All, I have added another 20 pages to the book "East Jersey Under the Proprietors". The first 20 pages of the book is on the web at http://www.midatlanticarchives.com Alan RESEARCHING: Buckingham, Gilpin, Eastburn, Jeanes, Nowland, Wade, Creswell, Vansant and related families No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.6/828 - Release Date: 6/1/2007 11:22 AM

Seeking information on Henry F. Woodruff b abt. 1820 NJ; married 04 December 1845 Butler Co., OH to Elizabeth HANCOCK. Children: Mary E. WOODRUFF b abt. 1846 probably Butler Co., Ohio John W. WOODRUFF b abt. 1848 probably Butler Co., Ohio Sylvander WOODRUFF b abt. 1852 probably Butler Co., Ohio James M. WOODRUFF b abt. 1854 probably Decatur Co., IN A. H. WOODRUFF b abt. 1856 probably Decatur Co., IN L. P. WOODRUFF b abt. 1860 probably Decatur Co., IN

Let us not forget the Colonel James MILLS and Sarah REED family too of Sussex Co. NJ. James B: 1756, and Sarah dau of Azer REED and Sarah SUTTON of Sussex Co. NJ. James and Sarah removed through Pine ? PA to Hamilton Co. Ohio, then north to Darke Co. Ohio where they lived and died. I would also like to find for all the lists, who was this James' parents?? Is he the Richard Jr. aka James??? Brother to Richard Sr, son of Samuel Previously listed by Audrey. Thanks be to all of you. That would help to end my total curiosity on that great family MILLS line. Love to have a DNA sample for the group. Might also shed some light on the John MILLS, of advanced age, I am sure, who married Elizabeth SUTTON HAYDON/HAYDEN, Elizabeth was age ca 80 years old. John sold off her estate, and posted on gencircles.com family page, says that John did not SHARE any with Elizabeth's family?? (Morris or Sussex Co. NJ) Which John MILLS could that have been?? They married early 1800's or so, and Elizabeth died 1817. Just bits and pieces, that is all I have at this point. Cheers, Pat cw ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

HI All: Some of what you are asking is posted on the _www.familytreedna.com_ (http://www.familytreedna.com) web site under MILLS. They have changed the search venue a little bit. Put in M Put in MILLS click on MILLS then the link go to DNA results page category 600 would be those that you are pretty much talking about Audrey to Pam. Samuel, your William family, My brother's #33009 as George, and John - Rebecca/Permilla, Abraham, and Lewis. I sure would like to know someone out there, who knows about Lewis MILLS - Emeline/Emaline HAMILTON. Is he a brother of William F MILLS, who lives next door to an Emeline MILLS, with niece Carrie PIERSON on the 1880 US Census for Morris Co. NJ. And is Emeline MILLS the one who married the COMPTON fellow, and they are buried in Keansburg, NJ?? Is she Lewis' first wife?? On the 1880 Census, Lewis is listed with Louise. We do have the file that shows him with a second wife, as Louise. Thank you all bunches. COMPTON's father married Abigail SEELEY dau of a John SEELEY, B: 1760, John that is. Is this John SEELEY brother to Permilla above?? I know it is a round the mountain sort of trying to piece this together, but I can find no other way from my end here in my place in Oregon. There is a whole bunch of MILLS - KELLSEY/KELSEY or KELSO also. Is that the line which is listed on the will of Richard or Samuel???? Might shed some light that way. Someone wrote that our MILLS, meaning category 600 DNA people, came to NJ ca 1740. So that is a clue. But were they just coming on down, to join a brother or an uncle previously arrived long time back. Who is the George MILLS, ca 1656 in the NJ Newspapers book I read about. Also a Richard MILLS listed in that book too. Piscataway and Woodbridge area. Kept copies of the pages, however, in the move, well you all know about moving and boxes, etc. We all have an Elias MILLS, tavern keeper of Westfield. However, does any one have any documentation about him, wills, estates, land records, that they would like to share too. He was son of Joseph and Sarah MILLS of Westfield, NJ. Elias and William MILLS signed bills and letters signatures not far from one another on it. Those two would lead me to believe either father and son, and or brothers, etc. Would love more paper work on them too, to share. Is the Isaac MILLS who married Joanna, both of them of Westfield, NJ, is he the one on the same page references as John MILLS who was removed to the enemy lines ca 1793, with the 8 others families so listed. Sent to me by the very kind librarian at the NJ State Archives at Trenton, NJ. Maybe he was a half brother, rather than a full one. There is also an Isaac MILLS of Westfield, on the DNA web site, however, his DNA does not quite match ours, category 600. Could that have been one of those MILLS marrying a MILLS situation, but no our individual line? Should we be comparing the Haplo Grouping Instead of the category numbers??? That is, All of us in the I HAPLO GROUPING as opposed to the numbering??? Love you all bunches, need to sign off for a few days. My Grandson is here from Marina Del Rey, CA. and I am off to see him for the weekend. Check back with the list come Monday. Love ya Cous Pat cw ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

My ancestor, Phebe Vreeland, reportedly is buried in the Rahway Cemetery. The transcriptions done in the 1950s and now posted on David Kane's website list the following entry: Phebe, Husb. Aaron Vreeland, b. 30 Sept. 1770, d. 17 June 1827. http://www.westfieldnjhistory.com/files/rahwaycem.htm My problem is that I have not been able to find any evidence of this grave other than the recorded transcription. The elderly lady who zealously guards the Rahway Cemetery records charged me $25 to do a search of the records for Phebe Vreeland, and reported that the records are incomplete and she could not find any burial record for Phebe Vreeland (she would not let me examine the records myself, and said that they were kept offsite). I have walked the cemetery pretty extensively and did not find Phebe's tombstone. I talked to various workers at the cemetery, and found no one who could remember seeing Phebe's tombstone. Can anyone help? Michael W. Freeland

Has anyone done work on the Essex Co. OGDENS? I am just starting my research on that line as it connects to the BEACH Family. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Eve in NC

Is this David Mills, hus/o Jemima Littell or another David Mills? David and Jemima are said to have been the parents of Moses, Gershom, Aaron, Abigail, and Benjamin. What would be the lineage for this David? Anyone know his ancestry? A tax rate listing in 1779 lists David Mills of Westfield enumerating [blank] acres of land, (Value blank), 2 horses, 2 horned cattle, 0 hogs (Total Levy: 4£, 10 shillings), a Householder (a person who does not own land). (Source : "Rateables in the Township of Elizabeth of Westfield Ward in County of Essex in the State of New Jersey, March 1779" at http://www.westfieldnjhistory.com/files/rateablesmarch1779p7.htm) A tax rate listing in 1780 lists David Mills of Westfield enumerating 50 acres of land, (Value 15£), 2 horses, 2 horned cattle, and 0 hogs (Total Levy: 19£, 10 shillings). (Source : "Rateables in the Township of Elizabeth in Westfield Ward in County of Essex in the State of New Jersey" at http://www.westfieldnjhistory.com/files/rateablesfeb1780p4.htm) Westfield Township, Essex County, New Jersey Tax Rateables, July 1781 - Page 6 David Mills http://www.westfieldnjhistory.com/files/rateablesJuly1781p6.htm One Moses MILLS b 1774; d 1818; bur Old Colonial Cemetery (Presbyterian Church Cemetery), Westfield, Union Co., NJ. He married Susan TERRILL and had known children: William Terrill MILLS & Abigail MILLS. Anyone follow this ancestry? Audrey (Shields) Hancock AudreyHancock1939@sbcglobal.net

These are the the same families. Samuel Mills moved from New Jersey to Nc then to Va then to Jefferson Co., Kentucky. My line is proven genetically to this line in New Jersey. The Ogden name coming from the will and family data that has come into our posession. Our Mary Miller Mills birth date matches the info in Westfields church records. I am hoping to find more information on Samuel's siblings Isaac, Mary, Sarah and Susannah to help with more proof on the family. I am somewhat new in searching the New Jersey area and would love to search wills and deeds for Elizabethtown but they are a little elusive. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Pam Kirkland I believe Phebe was a sister and John Lee was a bro in law but not sure about abraham. ---- Audrey Hancock <AudreyHancock1939@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Is this the same Richard MILLS you are naming? > What reference do you have for naming Richard's wife as Sarah Ogden? > Is it because daughter Mary received a cow from her grandmother, Mary Ogden? > Note: brother James Mills is named? > > > NJ Archives, Series 1, Vol. 32, Abstracts of Wills 3 - 1751-1760 > 19 Nov 1756 > Richard Mills of the Borough of Elizabeth, Essex Co., yeoman; will of. Wife, > Sarah. > Children - > Samuel, > Isaac (both under age), > Mary (who receives cattle given her by her dec'd grandmother Mary Ogden), > Sarah and > Susannah. > Brother, James Mills. > Executors - the wife and Stephen Burrow. > Witnesses - Phebe Clark, John Lee, Abraham Clarke Jr. [Was Phebe a sister > and John & Abraham bros-in-law who were witnesses in the Samuel's will > below?] > Proved 14 Feb 1757, Lib. F, p. 442 > > ************************** > > Could this be your Richard's father along with family connections? > > Samuel Mills d 1744 had a son Richard (aka Richard Sr.) and a son, James > Mills (aka Richard Jr.). > > Will of Samuel Mills, yeoman, of Elizabeth Town, Essex Co., NJ > 7 Aug 1744 > "Being far advanced in years." > Children: > Samuel Mills > John Mills > Joseph Mills > Mary (Mills) Thompson > Hannah (Mills) Scott > Rachel (Mills) Stuart > Susanna (Mills) Winans > Elizabeth (Mills) Frazee > Phebe (Mills) Clark > Sarah (Mills) Lee > Jane Mills > Sons-- > Richard Mills, Sen'r > James Mills (aka Richard Mills, Jun'r.) > "Division of land between them to be made by William Porter and Abraham > Clark. Executor: son, Richard Mills, the elder. Witnesses: Joseph Kelsey, > John Cleverly, Daniel Kelsey. > Proved March 16, 1744 > (New Jersey Colonial Documents: Calendar of Wills 1730-1750, p. 340: Lib. D, > p. 246) > > Audrey (Shields) Hancock > AudreyHancock1939@sbcglobal.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: njessex-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:njessex-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of kyrkland@tds.net > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 2:36 PM > To: njessex@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NJESSEX] Richard MILLS-Samuel MILLS/OGDEN@1750 > > > Richard MILLS married Sarah OGDEN > his will dated 1757 > > listed > Mary > Samuel > Isaac > Sarah > Susannah > > Samuel MILLS married first Anne ROSS on 14 May 1772. She must have died > fairly quickly because he married Mary MILLER(dau of Wm MILLER of Westfield) > on 6 May 1776. Samuel moved to North Carolina (there in 1789) and then to > Virginia (there in 1800) finally ending up in Jefferson Co., Kentucky where > he died in 1822. His wife Mary is buried there. I dont know where Isaac > went. > Any help with this family any connections would be greatly appreciated. > > Pam Kirkland > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJESSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is this the same Richard MILLS you are naming? What reference do you have for naming Richard's wife as Sarah Ogden? Is it because daughter Mary received a cow from her grandmother, Mary Ogden? Note: brother James Mills is named? NJ Archives, Series 1, Vol. 32, Abstracts of Wills 3 - 1751-1760 19 Nov 1756 Richard Mills of the Borough of Elizabeth, Essex Co., yeoman; will of. Wife, Sarah. Children - Samuel, Isaac (both under age), Mary (who receives cattle given her by her dec'd grandmother Mary Ogden), Sarah and Susannah. Brother, James Mills. Executors - the wife and Stephen Burrow. Witnesses - Phebe Clark, John Lee, Abraham Clarke Jr. [Was Phebe a sister and John & Abraham bros-in-law who were witnesses in the Samuel's will below?] Proved 14 Feb 1757, Lib. F, p. 442 ************************** Could this be your Richard's father along with family connections? Samuel Mills d 1744 had a son Richard (aka Richard Sr.) and a son, James Mills (aka Richard Jr.). Will of Samuel Mills, yeoman, of Elizabeth Town, Essex Co., NJ 7 Aug 1744 "Being far advanced in years." Children: Samuel Mills John Mills Joseph Mills Mary (Mills) Thompson Hannah (Mills) Scott Rachel (Mills) Stuart Susanna (Mills) Winans Elizabeth (Mills) Frazee Phebe (Mills) Clark Sarah (Mills) Lee Jane Mills Sons-- Richard Mills, Sen'r James Mills (aka Richard Mills, Jun'r.) "Division of land between them to be made by William Porter and Abraham Clark. Executor: son, Richard Mills, the elder. Witnesses: Joseph Kelsey, John Cleverly, Daniel Kelsey. Proved March 16, 1744 (New Jersey Colonial Documents: Calendar of Wills 1730-1750, p. 340: Lib. D, p. 246) Audrey (Shields) Hancock AudreyHancock1939@sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: njessex-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:njessex-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of kyrkland@tds.net Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 2:36 PM To: njessex@rootsweb.com Subject: [NJESSEX] Richard MILLS-Samuel MILLS/OGDEN@1750 Richard MILLS married Sarah OGDEN his will dated 1757 listed Mary Samuel Isaac Sarah Susannah Samuel MILLS married first Anne ROSS on 14 May 1772. She must have died fairly quickly because he married Mary MILLER(dau of Wm MILLER of Westfield) on 6 May 1776. Samuel moved to North Carolina (there in 1789) and then to Virginia (there in 1800) finally ending up in Jefferson Co., Kentucky where he died in 1822. His wife Mary is buried there. I dont know where Isaac went. Any help with this family any connections would be greatly appreciated. Pam Kirkland

Richard MILLS married Sarah OGDEN his will dated 1757 listed Mary Samuel Isaac Sarah Susannah Samuel MILLS married first Anne ROSS on 14 May 1772. She must have died fairly quickly because he married Mary MILLER(dau of Wm MILLER of Westfield) on 6 May 1776. Samuel moved to North Carolina (there in 1789) and then to Virginia (there in 1800) finally ending up in Jefferson Co., Kentucky where he died in 1822. His wife Mary is buried there. I dont know where Isaac went. Any help with this family any connections would be greatly appreciated. Pam Kirkland

My connection into the Woodruff clan is via Abigail Woodruff (1770-1843) who married Ezekial Wade (1770-1843) and had daughter Mary Bunnell Wade (1793 - 1843) who married John Manley Dow who was an ancestor of my great-grandmother Mary Brooks Dow who is buried in Evergreen Cemetery. >From what I know, Abigail Woodruff was daughter of William Woodruff (1743-1811) and Mary Bonnell (1748-1836) William Woodruff was son of Abraham Woodruff (b? - 1773) and Abigail Arnett (1723 - 1779) I have no further information about Abraham Woodruff and the rest of the Woodruff clan. Can anyone help me with developing this link? curious to know what happened in 1843 that Abigail W., Ezekial W and daughter Mary all died in 1843. was there some epidemic that year in Northern NJ? thanks Wade Barton Lewis III (still trying to find out where the Barton came from also!

Audrey. Have been reviewing your latest emails with interest. I too have several NJ families who headed west. One was Isaac Grumman, son of a Rev War patriot, who headed west and ended up in Guernsey County OH. Another was a Samuel Drake, who went into Cumberland County (later Mifflin and Huntingdon Counties) PA where he fought during the Rev War. I believe that Samuel was of the Piscataway Drakes but am missing a generation or two that would confirm it. The Grumman family was involved in the Scotch Plains Baptist Church - Ichabod Jr, his wife, brother and a few others left that church in order to found the Lyons Farms Baptist Church. Ichabod, the Rev War patriot, was the first burial at the Lyons Farms Baptist Church but unfortunately, with the expansion of the church, the cemetery disappeared. It also appears that you and I are cousins on several lines - Riggs/Miller (I come from another child of Samuel Miller - whose headstone is still extant at the Elizabethtown Presby Church; the Winans (my line is Susannah m Cornelius Melyn). I also have an Ensey family who originated in MD, I believe in Frederick County - but am having problems with finding information. Do you have any information on the 1700s and 1800s of your Ensey family? That's all for now. I work for H&R Block during tax season so am largely incommunicado - now trying to catch up on my correspondence and will try to post my names on the website, albeit out of alphabatetical order (sorry Shawn). I come from a number of families who founded CT and Long Island and then moved down to found Neward and Elizabethtown NJ. And I come from the Bratton line that ties into the Woodruffs of Lucie and John - my great grandfather was a brother of Jemima Bratton Woodruff. Later . . . Joan Bretz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Audrey Hancock" <AudreyHancock1939@sbcglobal.net> To: <NJunion@rootsweb.com> Cc: <NJEssex@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 10:29 AM Subject: [NJESSEX] Scotch Plains Bapt. Church, Union Co., NJ > > A few more photos have been contributed to my Scotch Plains Bapt. Church > Cemetery site. These were shared by Rachel Pincus. If anyone has > information on others buried there and/or photos, I'd be happy to upload > them to the site. Along with the photos I am also trying to gather > biographical information to put with individuals who are buried there. > So...if you have data/information that you'd like to share, please let me > know. This is an incomplete listing, as is. > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~grannyapple/NJCh-Cem/UnionCoNJSctch > Plns/ScotchPlainsBptHOME.html > or access via: > http://tinyurl.com/3xu9k4 > > Also, don't forget to visit David Kane's wonderful site: > http://www.westfieldnjhistory.com/ > > Audrey (Shields) Hancock > AudreyHancock1939@sbcglobal.net > or grannyapple1939@sbcglobal.net > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJESSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you George for checking - I do appreciate your time Maria Melbourne, Victoria, Australia On 5/31/07, Gcburgey@aol.com <Gcburgey@aol.com> wrote: > > Hello, Maria. > > I saw your posting on NJESSEX about Dominick. I coulds not > find a birth record in NJ for him in 1911. Neither could I > find an obit in the Newark Star-Ledger around March 9, 1989. > > George > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJESSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

A few more photos have been contributed to my Scotch Plains Bapt. Church Cemetery site. These were shared by Rachel Pincus. If anyone has information on others buried there and/or photos, I'd be happy to upload them to the site. Along with the photos I am also trying to gather biographical information to put with individuals who are buried there. So...if you have data/information that you'd like to share, please let me know. This is an incomplete listing, as is. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~grannyapple/NJCh-Cem/UnionCoNJSctch Plns/ScotchPlainsBptHOME.html or access via: http://tinyurl.com/3xu9k4 Also, don't forget to visit David Kane's wonderful site: http://www.westfieldnjhistory.com/ Audrey (Shields) Hancock AudreyHancock1939@sbcglobal.net or grannyapple1939@sbcglobal.net

Continue to search for the name of the second husband and unknown WOODRUFF family connections of Mary "Polly" Mills, dau/o Wm. Mills I and Amy [--?--] of Westfield Twp., Union Co., NJ, who had unknowingly married the bigamist Benjamin Stites, returned home to NJ, and later married an unknown Mr. Woodruff. >From my story "THE PLIGHT of MARY "Polly" (nee MILLS) STITES-WOODRUFF and THE SAGA of (Capt./Maj.) BENJAMIN STITES" at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~grannyapple/MILLS/Plight%20of%20Mar y%20Mills%20Stites.html or access via: http://tinyurl.com/yh8dd4 "Mary "Polly" (Mills) Stites had evidently remarried by 15 December 1797 to [--?--] Woodruff, for she was called "Polly Woodruff" in the will of her mother, Amy [--?--] Mills, widow of William Mills (I). She may have gone with her WOODRUFF husband to Warren County, Ohio where her children were later residing, but that is not known. Further information concerning Mary "Polly" (Mills) Stites Woodruff is not known at this time." Audrey Audrey (Shields) Hancock AudreyHancock1939@sbcglobal.net

Hello, John, and Interested Others, Thank you, John, for your kind public note of apology below. That was very nice, but unnecessary. However, your note was appreciated. Since I have so much on the web, I do get massive amounts of e-mails daily and just do not have enough time to respond in a timely fashion to all with other things that also go on in my life. It happens so easily even when immediate responses are intended. Instead of sending privately to John, I address all who may be interested in this information concerning the "westward" trek of our ancestors. Gone West or Going West in those early 1800s NJ records usually meant the family went into the Miami Valley of Ohio and up into the Northwest Territory settlements that were forming. Now...for research in Butler Co., OH...so many of our ancestors and/or their families, relatives, and friends traversed out of NJ down through PA and into the Miami Valley of Ohio in those early years because of Benjamin Stites and the Miami Purchase by Gov. Symmes. What we have to remember when researching people in Hamilton Co., OH is that Hamilton Co. was the original county founded in 1799 and that Butler Co., OH wasn't formed until 1803 from Hamiton Co. When I first started researching in Butler Co., OH for both my husband's and my ancestors, I soon learned that many records are found in Hamilton Co., OH since families frequently settled there first or were there the entire time with the county changing names instead of them changing residence. Also, another problem was that Hamilton, Butler Co., OH and Cincinnati, Hamilton Co., OH can be confusing in records when just the name Hamilton is given. Also, as lands opened up in the Northwest Territory these same families moved from Hamilton Co. to Butler Co. to Warren Co. and then into Montgomery Co. (from Hamilton and area known as Michigan), Preble Co. (from Montgomery Co. & Butler Co.), and Miami Co. (from Montgomery Co.) where many early NJ ancestors/descendants are also found. Don't discount any of these counties and others nearby as you track your ancestors. Finding locations and records of burials in Hamilton Co. and Butler Co., Ohio has much to be desired for those early years. The history books have been the best help/source to me in at least naming some of the locations, but when visiting little remains to tell us more...field stones sometimes mark the sites but most often names are not found, locations are not marked and some have disappeared from the landscape, and records were not always kept for those residing there or sojourning briefly, then moving on. Some families had the time and money to follow up with a engraved stone; others did not. Some pioneers were merely buried on their own property or in small community graveyards that disappeared or grew larger in scope but without a record of those who were buried in those earlier pioneer years. Many names and sites are lost to time and ages...and to weathering. Some of the very early pioneers settled in what was known as Columbia Twp. Also, know that Cincinnati was originally known as Losantiville in early mention of Ohio history. We are told that Cincinnati actually began as three small settlements - Columbia, North Bend, and Losantiville - founded on the Ohio River in 1788-1789 Here is a commercial site where you can find some of the names of the early cemeteries: http://hcgsohio.org/PUBLICATIONS%20CHECKED%20BY%20THE%20HAMILTON%20CO.pdf Within Kentucky and Ohio histories you will find mention of a "station" which was merely a little settlement or fort with a group of pioneers settling nearby. In these early years in the areas of settlements in the howling wilderness, the Baptist Church seemed to flourish with those pioneers who came from the South. Many of our NJ Presbyterians pioneers can be found as members of a Baptist congregation/community. In some areas of Ohio I have seen the early establishment of the Episcopal Church. Here is a site that may give you some information about early Presbyterian Churches in Ohio: http://mal.net/EarlyPresbyterians/ I don't know if this was of any help, but perhaps some will find it useful. Those early history books are great guides when attempting to locate one's ancestors, but even they are lacking when other records are almost nil. Here is a site for locating information in Hamilton, Butler Co., OH. http://www2.eos.net/dajend/res.html And, this location has a large collection of early documents and vital records: http://www2.eos.net/dajend/res.html#butler And...as mentioned by John, the "History and Biographical Cyclopaedia of Butler County, Ohio" at this site http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohbutler/cyc may be something you may wish to check out. Many NJ surnames are found within the pages. And, the History of Hamilton Co., OH at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohhamilt/histhc/mnindex.html and a resouce site at http://www.jungclas.com/gensite/hamilton/hamresou/ Good Luck in your searches. Audrey Audrey (Shields) Hancock Portage, Michigan AudreyHancock1939@sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: njunion-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:njunion-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of JQMagie@aol.com Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 5:52 AM To: njessex@rootsweb.com; AudreyHancock1939@sbcglobal.net; hondolu@hotmail.com Cc: njunion@rootsweb.com; OHBUTLER@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NJUNION] W: WOODRUFF, Enos, 1822 Both Lucie, hondolu@hotmail.com (see below), and I appear to be descendants of Timothy Woodruff Jr. (1715-1798) and his wife Elizabeth Parsons (1712-1798) of Union County (NJ)-- which was part of Essex County until 1857. Timothy Jr. was presumably born in his father's house-- which is now the headquarters of the Hillside Historical Society (111 Conant St., Hillside, NJ 07205, 908-353-8828). Reportedly WOODRUFF is the most common surname at either Hillside's Evergreen Cemetery or Elizabeth's First Presbyterian Cemetery-- or BOTH. And the Woodruff family were among the founders of Elizabethtown (NJ) in 1664. More on all this in a later post of mine. I haven't been online much lately, having had some recent health problems-- also some computer health problems, mostly associated with my recent and very difficult conversion from Dial-Up to High-Speed. For Senior Citizens like me (born 1939), these problems no doubt occur more frequently. The first post appended below reminds me that I have not yet apologized to Audrey Hancock Shields for my grumpy on-list NJEssex message to her of 4/10/07, titled "zero response from Audrey." I send this apology now. My 4/10/07 complaint, if sent at all, SHOULD have been sent privately, NOT on-list. Sorry, Audrey. And soon after sending that April post, I realized that I too have been guilty of not responding at all-- or not very promptly-- to requests for info from other RootsWeb listers, as several listers can probably attest. Also, belated thanks, Audrey, for your rapid & patient off-list response to me-- sent later the same day, 4/10/07. Soon I hope to respond more fully (privately) to your April 10 message. Though this is a bit off-topic, I'm especially interested, Audrey, in your mentioning off-list that you have spearheaded an online reproduction of the 1883 "History and Biographical Cyclopaedia of Butler County, Ohio"-- something I was unaware of (http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohbutler/cyc). MANY Essex County (NJ) residents apparently settled in Butler County around the beginning of the 19th century, including many Magie (and other) cousins of mine. Several are buried at Mound Cemetery (Monroe, Butler, OH)-- which is reportedly situated, with substantial political incorrectness, on the surface of an actual Adena Indian mound! Other relatives of mine are buried in nearby Hamilton County, OH, especially at the older Carpenters Run Cemetery at Plainville, OH. Here are many MEGIE burials (a mostly 17th century spelling)-- all cousins of mine who apparently left Essex County, NJ, after 1780, but curiously before most all MEGIEs still in NJ agreed to standardize the name as MAGIE soon after 1800. Our common ancestor John McGHIE (1659-1735) arrived in Perth Amboy (NJ) from Galloway, Scotland, in late 1685 and became an Elizabethtown Associate in 1699. The reason I mention Ohio now is that I plan to visit, very soon and for the first time, the Cincinnati area (including Butler County) and its cemeteries, and I may not be able to get back to Audrey again right away. My main focus will be on the OGDEN uncles (and their descendants) of my great-grandfather Jonathan Ogden Magie (1823-1901), all natives of Elizabeth, NJ. My great-grandfather left NJ in the mid-1840s, living briefly in Cincinnati with his uncle Jonathan Ogden, 1807-1888 (also father-in-law of famous meat-packer Philip Danforth Armour, 1832-1901, of Milwaukee & Chicago), before settling permanently in Milwaukee in early 1848. These OGDEN uncles all became well-to-do Cincinnati businessmen, who mostly died before the ca. 1845 establishment of Cincinnati's prestigious Spring Grove Cemetery (a non-denominational "rural" burial ground). Do you know, Audrey-- or does anyone else know-- where in Cincinnati (formerly "Porkopolis") a prosperous Presbyterian merchant would likely be buried before 1845? ...............John (in metro Chicago)

Both Lucie, hondolu@hotmail.com (see below), and I appear to be descendants of Timothy Woodruff Jr. (1715-1798) and his wife Elizabeth Parsons (1712-1798) of Union County (NJ)-- which was part of Essex County until 1857. Timothy Jr. was presumably born in his father's house-- which is now the headquarters of the Hillside Historical Society (111 Conant St., Hillside, NJ 07205, 908-353-8828). Reportedly WOODRUFF is the most common surname at either Hillside's Evergreen Cemetery or Elizabeth's First Presbyterian Cemetery-- or BOTH. And the Woodruff family were among the founders of Elizabethtown (NJ) in 1664. More on all this in a later post of mine. I haven't been online much lately, having had some recent health problems-- also some computer health problems, mostly associated with my recent and very difficult conversion from Dial-Up to High-Speed. For Senior Citizens like me (born 1939), these problems no doubt occur more frequently. The first post appended below reminds me that I have not yet apologized to Audrey Hancock Shields for my grumpy on-list NJEssex message to her of 4/10/07, titled "zero response from Audrey." I send this apology now. My 4/10/07 complaint, if sent at all, SHOULD have been sent privately, NOT on-list. Sorry, Audrey. And soon after sending that April post, I realized that I too have been guilty of not responding at all-- or not very promptly-- to requests for info from other RootsWeb listers, as several listers can probably attest. Also, belated thanks, Audrey, for your rapid & patient off-list response to me-- sent later the same day, 4/10/07. Soon I hope to respond more fully (privately) to your April 10 message. Though this is a bit off-topic, I'm especially interested, Audrey, in your mentioning off-list that you have spearheaded an online reproduction of the 1883 "History and Biographical Cyclopaedia of Butler County, Ohio"-- something I was unaware of (http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohbutler/cyc). MANY Essex County (NJ) residents apparently settled in Butler County around the beginning of the 19th century, including many Magie (and other) cousins of mine. Several are buried at Mound Cemetery (Monroe, Butler, OH)-- which is reportedly situated, with substantial political incorrectness, on the surface of an actual Adena Indian mound! Other relatives of mine are buried in nearby Hamilton County, OH, especially at the older Carpenters Run Cemetery at Plainville, OH. Here are many MEGIE burials (a mostly 17th century spelling)-- all cousins of mine who apparently left Essex County, NJ, after 1780, but curiously before most all MEGIEs still in NJ agreed to standardize the name as MAGIE soon after 1800. Our common ancestor John McGHIE (1659-1735) arrived in Perth Amboy (NJ) from Galloway, Scotland, in late 1685 and became an Elizabethtown Associate in 1699. The reason I mention Ohio now is that I plan to visit, very soon and for the first time, the Cincinnati area (including Butler County) and its cemeteries, and I may not be able to get back to Audrey again right away. My main focus will be on the OGDEN uncles (and their descendants) of my great-grandfather Jonathan Ogden Magie (1823-1901), all natives of Elizabeth, NJ. My great-grandfather left NJ in the mid-1840s, living briefly in Cincinnati with his uncle Jonathan Ogden, 1807-1888 (also father-in-law of famous meat-packer Philip Danforth Armour, 1832-1901, of Milwaukee & Chicago), before settling permanently in Milwaukee in early 1848. These OGDEN uncles all became well-to-do Cincinnati businessmen, who mostly died before the ca. 1845 establishment of Cincinnati's prestigious Spring Grove Cemetery (a non-denominational "rural" burial ground). Do you know, Audrey-- or does anyone else know-- where in Cincinnati (formerly "Porkopolis") a prosperous Presbyterian merchant would likely be buried before 1845? ...............John (in metro Chicago) _____________________________________________________ Subj: Re: [NJESSEX] W: WOODRUFF, Enos, 1822 Date: 5/29/2007 1:11:46 P.M. CDT From: AudreyHancock1939@sbcglobal.net To: njessex@rootsweb.com If this is intended to be a be a birth date, it could not be correct, if the mother was born in 1822. I am assuming that the first date appears to be the birthdate for the children. Charles Edwin Abt. 1894 Lewiston, PA -----Original Message----- From: njessex-bounces@rootsweb.com On Behalf Of Lucie Vaccaro-Bailey Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 11:22 AM To: njessex@rootsweb.com Subject: [NJESSEX] W: Woodruff, Enos 1822 WOODRUFF, Enos Nov 5, 1822 (?) Secacus NJ m 1848 BRATTON, Jemima A b. 1822 PA Children Lucetta 1853 Fanny Abt. 1855 Hannah Grumman Abt. 1857- 1881 Adelaide 17 Mar 1859 - 1941 Robert A. Abt 1862, d 1886 Fruit Land Park, FL Charles Edwin Abt. 1894 Lewiston, PA Joseph T. Abt. 1869 [JQM plans soon to supply more detail on the above] _____________________________________________________ Subj: [NJESSEX] Woodruff, Charles Edwin Date: 5/30/2007 7:39:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time From: hondolu@hotmail.com To: njessex@rootsweb.com oops slight typo Woodruff, Charles Edwin b. 1864 Lewiston, PA not 1894 son of Enos Woodruff and Jemima A. Bratton. Lu ================================================= Subj: [NJESSEX] zero response from Audrey Date: 4/10/2007 7:16:50 A.M. Central Daylight Time From: JQMagie@aol.com To: njessex@rootsweb.com, AudreyHancock1939@sbcglobal.net Audrey-- your five posts yesterday at NJEssex reminded me that I never received any response from you to the following "ELMER" post of mine of 2/6/07-- also recorded in the NJEssex archives (http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/NJESSEX/2007-02)..... Looks like we share the same ancient Senior Citizen birth year ...............John (in metro Chicago) ____________________________________________________ Subject: Re: [NJESSEX] [E] ELMER + CRANE (Westfield, etc.) Date: 2/6/2007 10:59:58 A.M. CDT From: JQMagie@aol.com To: AudreyHancock1939@sbcglobal.net, dkane@genealogyinprint.com, NJESSEX@rootsweb.com, NJUNION@rootsweb.com Audrey-- for what it's worth..... Dr. Philemon ELMER's brother Nathan ELMER seems to be listed in my family's database. This is so since Nathan's wife Sally CRANE and their children are all apparently MEGIE-MAGIE descendants (i.e., cousins of mine) .............John (in metro Chicago) ____________________________________________________ Philemon ELMER born: 13 Sep 1752, Orange Co., NY died: 16 May 1827, Hamilton Co.?, OH If you have Ancestry.com (if not, I can easily email this to you), there's much more on Philemon (also his siblings, parents, etc.) at http://trees.ancestry.com/owt/person.aspx?pid=6967539 Nathan ELMER (Philemon's younger brother) born: 5 Nov 1763, New Providence, NJ died: 23 Apr 1852, New Providence?, NJ Also see more on Nathan via LDS AFN:12KG-6ZV at www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?page=af/search_AF.asp (mostly submitted by my family to the LDS Ancestral File in 1992). Also see: http://trees.ancestry.com/owt/person.aspx?pid=6965988 [JQM hasn't checked the above against the US Census.] ____________________________________________________ ...........[etc., etc, CLIP] ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Hello, Maria. I saw your posting on NJESSEX about Dominick. I coulds not find a birth record in NJ for him in 1911. Neither could I find an obit in the Newark Star-Ledger around March 9, 1989. George ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

oops slight typo Woodruff, Charles Edwin b. 1864 Lewiston, PA not 1894 son of Enos Woodruff and Jemima A. Bratton. Lu _________________________________________________________________ Catch suspicious messages before you open them—with Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_protection_0507