Here is a place to go to find a researcher to do lookups, etc. for you. It is part of the NJGenWeb site and is provided for the use of both the paid researcher and for the person needing research done. http://www.cyberenet.net/~gsteiner/njgenweb/genealogist.html This is also a good place for those who wish to advertise their services and if you have services to offer, let me encourage you to go here and get your services listed. It will be a benefit to us all. Diane Ward Sives A NJGenWeb volunteer for NJHudson, NJSussex, NJPassaic, NJWarren (listowner) and a lookup volunteer for NJBergen and NJEssex counties.

The New Jersey Department of Health charges $4.00 for a one year search for a vital record. They will search additional years for a charge of $1.00 a year. Janice Danks Lise Doss wrote: > Hi, > I have the name, month, year, and place of death of my > great-grandmother, but not the exact date (it was in the 1940s). Do you > think that's enough to get a death certificate? > > In regards to the recent discussion about cause of death: I always write > on the letter or form my relation to the person, and I've never had a > death certificate come back with the cause of death blanked out. > Wish they would have entered date of birth and parents sometimes, > though! > Regards, > Lise > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ==== NJESSEX Mailing List ==== > Visit the Essex County Genealogy Web Site at: > <http://www.rootsweb.com/~njessex/>

I'm new to this site and wondering if anyone can tell me if there is a directory as to grave locations for Holy Sepulchre Cemetery. I've tried sending a relative there to look but was told it is too confusing. I've been waiting four weeks for the LDS microfilm and not sure if that will even give the locations.

I came across this on another mailing list. Thought you might use it. Floreda Varick Tallahassee, Fl WOW !!! What a cool site !! Thought there might be someone out there who could use the information . <A HREF="http://www.nara.gov/genealogy/confed.html">Click here: Confederate Pension Records</A> <A HREF="http://www.nara.gov/genealogy/cenclues.html">Click here: Clues in Census Records, 1850-1920</A> <A HREF="http://www.nara.gov/publications/record/may98/family.html">Click here: The Record: May 1998: Family History, Clues i...</A> This for 1790-1840. Please pass this information on to your genealogy buddies online who might appreciate it ... PS Cindy Sloan form the Jackson County FL GENWEB page sent the information out and she tagged her e-mail with this one-liner ... "It's been so dry the trees are bribing the dogs !!! "

Hi, I have the name, month, year, and place of death of my great-grandmother, but not the exact date (it was in the 1940s). Do you think that's enough to get a death certificate? In regards to the recent discussion about cause of death: I always write on the letter or form my relation to the person, and I've never had a death certificate come back with the cause of death blanked out. Wish they would have entered date of birth and parents sometimes, though! Regards, Lise Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Would anyone know where to obtain records for the WWI draft ? I have 4 uncles in Newark who should be registered and the information could be very helpful . Mahalo-Kevin

When I filled out the form for the death certificate (for the first time), I checked off the box that said something to the effect of health reasons. I received a letter back with a form saying that I had to be a direct descendent of this person and I had to sign the form. The reason I did not check off the box that said genealogy, was because I had a hard time when talking on the phone with one of the workers there. For some reason she informed me that they do not issue certificates for purposes of genealogy, so I was careful not to check that box. Anyway, I signed the form and sent it back. They sent me the death certificate and the box was filled with the writing (which I could not read anyway) of the cause of death. From then on, I never bothered with filling out the extra form, but I always receive the "cause of death" box blank. They will send you this form to fill out if you are interested in getting on. There is no extra charge or anything like that. Just verification on your decendency to that person. Susan Seifert Visit Guth Genes web site at http://members.aol.com/guthgenes/gutha.htm Lots of surnames from NY, NJ, Austria, Scotland and France.

I also received my first death certificate from NJ and had a blank area. After reading the posts dealing with this , I faxed the State Archives and received the following answer : " The NJ Dept. of Health , State Registrar has a regulation since 1995 that the cause of death is confidential , and they therefore block it out. At the State Archives , our copy of the death records on microfilm will give the cause of death. " Besides my morbid sense of genealogical curiosity , there are health reasons I would like to know the cause of death . If my research shows the recurrence of a certain disease or illness , I could take precautions and warn my family (One line of men in my family did die young ). Who could we write to change this? Kevin

Hi, This has maillists for the US and countries around the world. http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/us/index.html Rita

Hi Group: Referring to NJ death certificates and the cause of death deleted: << I received my great-grandfather's 1929 NJ [Essex County] death certificate with a whole section blanked out! >> You can find microfilm copies of all birth records up to 1923, and all marriages and deaths up to 1940 in the NJ State Archives located in Trenton. The copies of the death certificates at the Archives DO NOT have the cause of death blanked out. I was there in October and obtained many certificates with a great deal of information on them. Upstairs in the State Library, both the Star Ledger and the Newark Evening News are on microfilm as well. The staff at the Archives was very helpful when I was there; however, they have few readers and had only one printer at the time. We were limited in the amount of time we could spend on our readers; although, we just signed up for additional time and changed readers when necessary. It is definitely worth a trip to Trenton. Parking is available beneath the building; lunch can be obtained in the Museum gallery cafe located within the compound. The NJ State Archives 185 West State St. Trenton, NJ Regards, Pat Giovanni Sunnyvale, CA Researching: Christensen, Dailey, Mac Nee, Mc Evoy, Mattern, O'Hara - Newark Burns, Byrne, O'Hara - Belleville

Hi, This is a good one if you are not sure of counties in NJ. http://www.state.nj.us/infobank/locality.htm Rita

Hi Beth, Yes, there is a NYC list. This URL will give you all the rootsweb lists: http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/ Janice Danks Beth Leney wrote: > Good morning: > > Is there an equivalent to this list that covers New York City. > > Thanks > Beth Lenity > > ==== NJESSEX Mailing List ==== > Post and view Essex County surnames at: > <http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NJ/Essex>

Hi Peggy, In the late 1700's Shadrach FOUNTAIN was living in Saddle River, Bergen Co., NJ. Henry FOUNTAIN, innkeeper of the FOUNTAIN House in 1825 in Richmond County, Staten Island, NY. Best, Bob Smith, Shelby, NC -----Original Message----- From: Peggy Taylor <pftaylor@compuserve.com> To: NJESSEX-L@rootsweb.com <NJESSEX-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, March 11, 1999 10:00 PM Subject: Fountain family >I am searching for a Fountain family who lived in Newark. Cornelius >Fountain b. 1819 in Michigan, myGGrandfather, who married an Elizabeth >Wilcox from Newak b. 1801 d. 1835. She had some relationship to the Magee >family of 1801. There were other Fountains: Henry1828-1827, Abraham c. >1842 and Anthony who married an Elizabeth b.1762 d. 1820. Can anyone help >me locate this family? Thanks for any help you can send along. > >PTaylor pftaylor@compuserve.com > > >==== NJESSEX Mailing List ==== >To Search the Archives for this List: ><http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl> > > >

In a message dated 3/12/99 8:38:22 AM Central Standard Time, KNort21285@aol.com writes: << John Butler, who chairs the Dye list, has a webpage at http://www.uh.edu/~jbutler/gean that has more info on Sarah Vincent Fountain and her descendants. >> The page on Hans Laurensen Duyts and Sarah VIncent Fountain is at: http://www.uh.edu/~jbutler/gean/hans.html Kari

I have Dye\Dey\Duyts ancestors from NY and NJ - one of them was Sarah Vincent, who had been previously married to Antioine Fountain\Fountane\Fontaine before she married my ancestor Hans Laurensen Duyts. I thought the following post from the Dye mailing list would be of interest to those who have been asking lately about the Fountain family. There is more in the archives for the list, also John Butler, who chairs the list, has a webpage at http://www.uh.edu/~jbutler/gean that has more info on Sarah Vincent Fountain and her descendants. Kari Subj: Fountain (long post) Date: 2/15/99 7:42:49 AM Central Standard Time From: rbarry@DELANET.COM (Regina Barry) Sender: THEDYESOCIETY@LISTSERV.UH.EDU (Discussions of the history of the Dye, Dey and Duyts families) Reply-to: THEDYESOCIETY@LISTSERV.UH.EDU (Discussions of the history of the Dye, Dey and Duyts families) To: THEDYESOCIETY@LISTSERV.UH.EDU >>I have added no comments to the transcription below - the 'first person commentary' appears in the original article. This article contains some information which is verifiable by original documents, and some information which is clearly incorrect when compared to original documents. However, it appears to be an early source for many assumptions concerning Sara, wife of Hans Laurentz(en). In addition, it is a wonderful example of genealogical writing typical of its time period. RMB<< The Connecticut Quarterly, an illustrated magazine devoted to the Literature, History and Picturesque Features of Connecticut. Vol. III January to December 1897. Hartford, Conn. Copyright 1897 by George C. Atwell. (This copy is located in Morris Library, University of Delaware, Newark, DE) pg. 353-354 #27 Fountain Family of Staten Island, New York. Antoine Fountain aet 30 witness in a suit on Staten Island, in 1680, seems to be the first mention of this name in Richmond County, NY. Nothing is definitely known of his ancestry. He was undoubtedly a French Huguenot. But from whence he came, or how, has not been learned. Probably it will never be known. It seems to be one of the many pages of unwritten history. It appears very singular to me that we should find Aaron and Charel (Charles) Fountain or Fonteyn on Long Island, NY - Aaron 1674 and Charel about 1660 - and Antoine Fountain on Staten Island around 1680. It certainly would seem that there must be some relationship. But the names on the families of these three Fountains afford us no clue. James H. Fountain, Esq. of Riverside Cal, a descendant of Aaron, makes Anthony the son of Charel, but I can find no authority for such a statement. If Anthony were the son of Charles, it seems more than probably that Anthony would have names his son Charles instead of Vincent, and the same reasoning applies to Aaron as the son of Charles. In Aaron's line the names Moses, John, Aaron and James occur; names that are common in the Virginia Fontaine family. Mr. James H. Fountain, Riverside, Cal says "There seems to be three branches of the Fountain family in their country who trace their origin back through France to the crusaders. It is supposed that the younger brother of James and Abraham [sons of John] de la Fontaine went from Rochelle to Holland, where he dropped the 'de la' and spelled his name Fontein or Fonteyn. Charel Fonteyn (supposed to be his son) came to America in the 'Golden Beaver' with wife and son in 1658. Callaghans Doc.Hist. NY. The Deutsch Standard Book or ' Book of Coats-of-Arms of Noted Dutchmen' contains a family tree of the Fonteys, He had a brother Jacques and a son Anthony born in 1650." I will deny this last statement until I can see documentary proof to the contrary. There was a Jacques and Johannes in Bushwick, LI NY in 1687. Jacques named his first son Carel; and Johannes names his first son Karel. What is more natural than that they should name their first son after their own father. I have never seen the Deutsch Standard Book. Mr. J. H. Fountain says further in regard to the SI line "This branch of the family shows its French blood - you can tell one of the Staten Islanders anywhere by his small stature, black hair, brown eyes and small hands and feet." A Richard Fountain and William Pender, 'mariners' buy land Nov 6 1702 of William Blackford (Book B pg. 426 Richmond Land Rec.) Nothing more is known of this Richard Fountain. Anthony 'Fonteigne,' grantee; Abraham Corbett, grantor, Sept 16 1686 (Book B pg. 73 Richmond Land Rec.). Clute's Annals of Staten Island p 382 states that Antone aet 30, was a witness in 1680. In a deed by Vincent Fountain on May 5, 1697, Anthony is called "lately deceased" (Book B, p 250 Richmond Land Rec.). "Sara Hance, mother of Vincent Fountain and Elizabeth Gerritse vande Hans, her heir" - date May 22 1700 (Book B p 376 Rich. Land Rec.). Sara prob. m. 2d, James Hanse. I have supposed Sara was a dau. of John Vincent who was on Staten Island in May 1687 (p 59 Clute's Annals) because her son was named Vincent. Will of John Vincent made Jan 28 1696-7 proved Dec 4 1705; wife Susannah sole executrix, says he has children but does not name them; he had a brother Francis. (Liber 7 p 223 N Y City Probate Records). Antone1 and Sarah (----) Fonteigne had I-i Vincent born about 1680 m. Anne Martino 2-ii dau b about 1682 mar prob James Hance Dye. What children did they have? I Vincent2 Fountain m. Anne dau of Francois and Hester (Dominees) Martino. He bought and sold land on Staten Island in 1697. He deeds land May 5 1697 to James Hance Dye and wife. Anthony is called "lately deceased" (Book B p 250 Rich. Land. Rec.). John Mulliear is bound to him Nov 1 1698 (Book B p 306 Rich. Land Rec.) He buys land for L122 10s 01p June 28 1714 of Charles Marshall and Mary, his wife (Book B p 593 R. Land R). On the same day for L27 he buys land of William Britton and Rachel his wife (Book B pg. 594 R.L.R.) His will dated Jan 4 1731-2 "Vincent ffountain Senr" names sons Vincent and Anthony, dau Anne and her husband Henry Peine (prob. Perrine); gr. son Anthony, son of his eldest son Vincent; his 'much honored mother, Sarah Dye"; executors wife Anne, 2 sons and friend nephew, Steven Martineau; will proved June 14, 1732. Anthony, one of the executors, since being deceased (Liber 11 p 323 NY City Probate Records). Vincent2 and Anne (Martino) Fountain had 7-i Vincent3, born abt 1700 m. abt 1718 Martha ----. What was her fathers' name? 8-ii Anne3, b. abt 1702 m. Henry Peine or Perine. What were the names of their children? 9-iii Anthony3 b. abt 1706 m. Isabella Byvank. Who were her parents. Francois Martino joined the church at New York July 28 1670 and is the first mention of him. He m. Hester Dominees, widow of Wabraven Lutin or Lutine. Issue: Stephen b. 1679. ii a daughter m. Vincent Fountain. In his will made Oct 1 1706 proved Aug 6 1707; he gave his estate, on the death of his widow, to his two grandsons Stephen Martino (son of Stephen, deceased) and Vincent Fountain Jr. (pg. 301 Rikers History of Harlem, NY)

Good morning: Is there an equivalent to this list that covers New York City. Thanks Beth Lenity

> Hi Dee, > > It is a NJ state law that only direct descendants of the deceased may view > the cause of death on the death certificate. If you are a direct > descendent, all you have to do is call or write and tell them you are. > They will ask you to sent back your copy of the death certificate and they > will replace it with a new copy with the cause of death not blanked out. > > Janice Danks > > dmd wrote: > > > Write to the director of vital statistics in New Jersey and request the > > death certificate > > for medical reasons. > > Dee > > > > Subject: Blanked out death certificate > > > > ==== NJESSEX Mailing List ==== > > Read the NJESSEX mailing list FAQ: > > <http://www.rootsweb.com/~njessex/faq/mailinglist.htm>

I am searching for a Fountain family who lived in Newark. Cornelius Fountain b. 1819 in Michigan, myGGrandfather, who married an Elizabeth Wilcox from Newak b. 1801 d. 1835. She had some relationship to the Magee family of 1801. There were other Fountains: Henry1828-1827, Abraham c. 1842 and Anthony who married an Elizabeth b.1762 d. 1820. Can anyone help me locate this family? Thanks for any help you can send along. PTaylor pftaylor@compuserve.com

I want to thank everyone from this list who answered my questions about Newark, especially Glenn. I had a very successful trip. I visited Fairmount Cemetery and found my gr-gr-grandparents graves. The cemetery staff was very helpful and I felt very safe inside the gates. I also visited the Library on Washington Street and spent 2 hours looking up death notices. I found 9 in all and although they did not have much information there were some valuable clues contained in them. I also visited the National Archives on Varick St in NY and got my both of my grandfather's WWI draft registrations. Thanks again to everyone who took the time to answer my questions. Susan Hovencamp

Katherine! The same thing happened to me on my Grandmother's death record.. What they did with the one I received is, they folded that area and then copied the record... But... I sent off for another one... by mistake... I got that one back with cause of death... So, it might be the employee doing it.. I can't figure it out... Sue W. Researching: Beekman, Finlay, Gilchrist, Reilly, Park -----Original Message----- From: katherine.fiedler <klfiedle@SUMMON.syr.edu> To: NJESSEX-L@rootsweb.com <NJESSEX-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, March 11, 1999 10:41 AM Subject: Blanked out death certificate >I think there was a discission about this earlier, but it didn't >affect me at the time. Yesterday, though, I received my >great-grandfather's 1929 NJ [Essex County] death certificate with a >whole section blanked out! It looks like someone put a post-it note >over the section that gives cause of death! > >Why would they do that? Is it something the family, at the time, >requested? Is there a way to obtain this information? I have little >enough medical history (my mother was adopted), and this seemingly >insignificant bit of info was important to me. > >I can only imagine it might have been a violent death, or suicide. >Are they trying to protect me/the family? HOWEVER, I have >another death certificate from Essex County, NJ, same time period >(1921) which reveals the cause of death as self-inflicted. > >Were any of you who experienced this able to obtain the info? Or find >out why it was withheld? What should I do next? > >Katherine Fiedler Pitts, Fayetteville, NY > > >==== NJESSEX Mailing List ==== >Read the NJESSEX mailing list FAQ: ><http://www.rootsweb.com/~njessex/faq/mailinglist.htm> > >