I'm researching my BROWER/BROUWER families of Little Falls/Acquackanock, NJ. If anyone may be able to share information with me it would be greatly appreciated. I have files upon files ready to be shared. If interested, please advise. Thank you. Ruth Joan Gilmore 27 Arlene court Bricktown, NJ 08724 E-Mail; ARC@webspan.net

Hi Jane, It's nice to see someone else who has connections to Clinton, NJ. My Lindsley ancestors lived there in the 1800s and I am gradually learning more about them and this area. Clinton is now Irvington, NJ and part of Newark. The town (or at least parts of it) have been known as West Farms, Camptown, Clinton, then Irvington. In the 1870 census I found my Clinton ancestors listed in S. Orange, with a notation on the census page that the P.O. is Irvington. The first Irvington settlers arrived in the late 1600's, and many of them were the Connecticut families (or their offspring) who had founded Newark. I don't have any knowledge of your book, but would like to ask if it is indexed? If so, would you mind checking to see if there is a mention of any "Lindsleys"? Incidently, I was at the FHC today looking at the 1870 census and I seem to recall seeing a listing for Ira Gardner (& I think the occupation was "hatter") - was your ancestor still living in Clinton in 1870? Sue Hathon (in southern CA)

Looking for info on: Urban Strobert (born 1810 in Germany) married Agnes. Children were Gertrude, John, Elizabeth, Valentine, George. Lived in Orange. Gertrude married a Hammer or Hemmer Elizabeth married Henry Hewson. Child: Lucy Ann Valentine married Mary Miller, was in Civil War. Children:Agnes, Minnie, Gertrude, Edgar, Stanley. George married Agnes. Children: Emma, Rose, Eva. Emma or Rose married a Seaman. Also John Strobert (born in 1808 in Bavaria) probably a brother to Urban. Married to Elizabeth Ebert. Child was Magdalena married J. Peter Hemmer. Children: John Peter, Magdalena, Magdalena, Anna, William, Peter J., Frank J., John Peter, William, Frederick. Lived in Newark. Anyone come across these names? Urban and John wereprobably brothers of my ancestor, Valentine Strobert who lived in Manhattan, NY. Any information would be appreciated.

Thanks to the voluntary "looker-uppers", I have determined that IRA GARDNER lived in Clinton Township in 1860 ! Maybe now there will be a marriage listing for SARAH JANE SMITH somewhere ! Does anyone know where the township records might be for Clinton ? (Not to be confused with the current Clinton in Hunterdon County !) I have a book called "Historical Collections of New Jersey : Past and Present authored by John W. Barber, assisted by Henry Howe, 1865 which apparently belonged to IRA GARDNER and then to his daughter, Edith Gardner Burnett (my grandmother). It describes Clinton Township as being formed from Newark, Elizabethtown and Orange in 1834, with a population of 3,676.It gives the boundaries in detail. Does anyone know anything about this book ? Is it a common volume ? It has 543 pages and a great deal of Indian and Revolutionary War history, as well as engravings. I'm anxious to unravel the mystery of what happened to the original Clinton ! Thanks for your help. Jane R. Elliott

Hello, Would some kind soul with access to the index for the NY or NJ 1860, 1870 or 1880 federal census please look to see if there is a listing for Jeremiah QUINLAN? Thanks very much, Lise Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

I think I may have found the marriage of Elizabeth Rikers parents!! With LDS online I found a marriage 12 August 1851 in Newark, Essex County, New Jersey between George W Riker and Elizabeth Godby (IGI Record - Batch Number M514553) I know from George Lovelace and Elizabeth Rikers marriage that her parents were George W and Elizabeth Riker. Joseph Godby was a witness to that marriage. and the marriage of George W Riker and Elizabeth Godby took place the year before Elizbeth Rikers birth. No I just gotta get a copy of the original record!! Good Hunting Everyone Doris Mayer Reece

I have found a reference in an NJ census to a possible ancestor (My gggrandfatger was a Joseph Gilbert MARTIEN, born 1815 Albany NY) and would like to check the details in the census, but am unsure exactly what to look for. The information I have gathered is below. I gather the 1850 census is fairly large, and I want to make sure that if I order a peice of it (say from the latter day saints) it will be the correct one (or does one get the whole thing?). I would appreciate any suggestions that would make my search as maximally fruitful as possible. >From what I can gather from the data below the 1850 census was partial, but happened to incude NJ Essex Co. N Ward. From the rootsweb NJ site I gather that Essex Co was on roll 449 or 450, is this a meaningful or useful peice of information. Any suggestions, pointers etc. greatly appreciated. Thanks, Tony -------------------------------------------------------------------- >From http://www.familytreemaker.com 96% 1850 NJ Census Index Martien, Joseph G. NJ ESSEX CO. N. WARD 001 1850 Indicates page 001 1850 LDS FHC # 0443646 Martien, Census Index: U.S. Joseph G. 1850-1859 NJ CD317 Selected Counties, 1850 (#317) -------------------------------------------------------------------- >From http://www.genealogy.org/census/1850_schedules/New.Jersey.html 1850 Free Schedules Roll 447 City of Newark, north, east, and south wards Roll 448 City of Newark, west and 5th wards Roll 449 Essex County (part) (excluding the city of Newark) Roll 450 Essex County (part) (excluding the city of Newark) -------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Anthony Roberts roberts@ansel.cbt.nist.gov

My previous post as to the URL for the LDS On Line was incorrect, the correct URL is: <http://familysearch.com> Sorry about that, I've been working a bit much lately, my vacation this week should help. : ) Good Luck, Glenn G. Geisheimer, Iselin, New Jersey: glenng@castle.net NJEssex Mailing List Administrator Essex County, NJ Genealogy: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njessex/ Virtual Newark, NJ: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~geishome/ Essex County Query Forum: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NJ/Essex

Hi, Tonight I found out my great grandmother, Mary Ellen QUINLAN KIRNER, was the daughter of Jeremiah QUINLAN and Mary McCORMACK. She was probably born about 1865 in the NY metro area. She probably also had a brother Jeremiah QUINLAN, since there was one born in 1870, died in 1925. Her death certificate says her father was born in the US and her mother was born in Ireland. Do these names sound familiar to anyone? Thanks, Lise Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Reunionslu@aol.com wrote: > I believe it is now Moriarty Funeral Home, address being 76 Park Ave, > Montclair. 973-744-4346. They should still have the Brown Records.. The Hugh M. Moriarty Funeral Home is a second generation run operation which has always been at the same address and never affiliated with Brown's. Arthur K. Brown closed their Montclair operation many years ago and I believe all records would be kept at their Bloomfield location. That address is: Arthur K. Brown, Inc. 337 Belleville Ave Bloomfield, NJ 07003 973-744-1111 ---- Judy Lamken, Kilkee Kerries & Saints Grafton, Wisconsin mailto:kilkee@pipeline.com http://www.pipeline.com/~jlamken/index.html AOL Instant Messenger - kilkee ICQ # 13219139

I am looking for information about an undertaker or funeral home that is listed on two if the death certificates for ancestors of mine. The name is: Joshua Brierly or Joshua Brierley The address is listed as: 406 Broad Street, Newark or 402 Broad Street, Newark The deaths were in 1902 and 1913 in Newark, NJ. Does anyone know if the records for this undertaker exist anywhere? Is there a current day funeral home that may have these records now? I would appreciate any information... Susan J. Hovencamp Email: Sjhcamp@aol.com Researching: ANSON/AUSTIN, BELCHER, BENSON, BROWN, CARR, COMPTON, CONKLIN, COQUILLETTE, DEMAREST, HANCE, HOVENCAMP/HOGENCAMP, JACOBUS, KING, KROM, LUNDY, PATTERSON, SCHMIDT, SCHRYVER, SINDLE, STEVENS, VAN HOUTEN, WILTSE

Looking for info on Arthur K. Brown, Home for Services funeral home that is no longer in business. It was located at or 56 Park St. at Claremont Ave. in Montclair NJ. When a funeral home goes out of business where do the records go or what happens to them? Thanks for any insight into this matter and Happy Easter to everyone! Elysa

--part1_ea9370c2.24397710_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_ea9370c2.24397710_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: Reunionslu@aol.com From: Reunionslu@aol.com Full-name: Reunionslu Message-ID: <ea9370c2.243976c5@aol.com> Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 22:15:33 EDT Subject: Re: Funeral Home, Montclair,NJ To: Wally2@cdsnet.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: Reunionslu@aol.com Elysa, I believe it is now Moriarty Funeral Home, address being 76 Park Ave, Montclair. 973-744-4346. They should still have the Brown Records.... Good luck, Ward Louisville KY --part1_ea9370c2.24397710_boundary--

Hello ECRs, The LDS site is now on-line. It is only a test site which is subject to unavailability at any time. BUT it is up and functionable. <http://www.familysearch.org/> Good Luck, Glenn G. Geisheimer, Iselin, New Jersey: glenng@castle.net NJEssex Mailing List Administrator Essex County, NJ Genealogy: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njessex/ Virtual Newark, NJ: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~geishome/ Essex County Query Forum: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NJ/Essex

I wonder if anyone out there can help? I am trying to get hold of copies of The Genealogy Magazine of New Jersey, vol. 47, # 1 and 2 and also vol. 48 #1. The articles are concerning the Osborne Family. My local Illinois library and its lending partners have no-one that carries it. Does anyone know of a book dealer that might have back issues? or perhaps someone have back issues they no longer want ( I know, not likely :) ) I fear that a library would not be willing to copy whole articles because of copyright problems... Thanks Betsy Rubel beharu@aol.com

I'm doing a research on myh BROWER/MOORE families and have found that my great great grandparents (GARRET BROWER of Acquackanock/Little Falls, NJ) and (RUTH MOORE of Warren, NJ) married 8/2/1821 by the Minister of the Gospel at New Providence, Essex County, NJ. RUTH MORE was the daughter of ISAAC MOORE and (LYDIA BEDELL - she was ISAAC's 2nd wife). LYDIA'S father was MOSES BEDELL and her grandfather was DAVID LITTLE. ISAAC's father was JOHN MOORE. If possible, I'm anxious to make a connection with these BROWER/MOORE families - BEDELL/BEDLE - LITTELL/LITTLE. I'm hoping someone out there may be able to share some information with me. I have loads of research already done but my main concern right now is to find the parents of GARRET. I've not been lucky with this one! Thank you for any help you may be able to give me. If unable to share with me, perhaps you could point me in the right direction. Thanks again for your help. Ruth Joan Gilmore 27 Arlene Court Bricktown, NJ 08724 E-Mail; ARC@webspan.net

Greetings! I'm looking for any information on my "Prussian" ancestors that emigrated to Newark, NJ in 1869. Friedrich Wilhelm SOMMER and Emilie (WESTER) SOMMER listed Prussia as their place of origin in the 1870 US Census. Their children Charles, Lydia Augusta, and Frederick were also listed as being from Prussia. Their other children, William, Adelheides, Hulda, Minnie, and Otto, were born in Newark. I believe that I found them in the Germans to America book, volume 23, arriving in New York from Bremen on 23 September 1869 on the ship Smidt. They are listed as being from Wurtemberg. Friedrich filed a Declaration of Intention on 26 October 1874 declaring against the Emperor of Germany. I will accept any and all suggestions, rumors, ideas, advice, and leads! Thanks in advance! Bill Zeigler San Diego, CA wzeigler@home.com

Greetings! I've been lurking for quite some time and have enjoyed the collective spirit. I finally have enough time to add my measley crumbs! I'm researching my grandfather's father, Charles BROCK, living in Newark, NJ. He was born November 1866 or 1867 and died 2 April 1899. He married Lydia Augusta SOMMER and they had one child, my grandfather, Frederick William BROCK. He joined the Newark police department in 1894. Lydia and Frederick moved to California after Charles died. The death certificate lists his birthplace as NJ and Rudolph and Ida BROCK as his parents, both from Germany. I think I found him in the 1870 Federal Census with parents Frederick and Julia BROCK and again in 1880 with parents and brothers Walter, Hugo, and Max. The 1885 NJ State Census lists Frederick, Julia, Charles, Walter, Hugo, Max, Emma, and Fred. The 1895 NJ State lists Walter, Hugo, Max, and Frederick. Any and all help would be appreciated. Advice and suggestions would be welcome! Bill Zeigler San Diego, CA wzeigler@home.com

Thanks to all of you who responded to my question. There was a clear consensus that a 'growler' was a vessel, like a bucket, used to bring home draft beer at the end of the work day. 'Rushing the growler' was the act of getting the 'growler' filled. Unfortunately, no one had heard of the Growlers as an organization that existed in the late 1800s. Please keep me in mind if you come across any info. Thanks. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- ORIGINAL QUESTION: Has anyone heard of the 'Growlers?' I have a copy of an 1886 membership certificate for one of my relatives. Based on the name of the organization, one can only imagine what its purpose was. Can anyone shed some light? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- Ted George T (Ted) Pierce rpfamily@concentric.net

Hi ECRs, A quick question to everyone out there- in the 1900 census, I came across this -ss. before a child's name. Does anyone out there know what it means. I though stepson, but it is in front of a daughter too. Thanks, Pat Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com