Study Find More Graves Under Garbage NEWARK,N.J. (AP)_ A potter's field that became a garbage dump contains more than twice as many bodies than the 18,000 originally thought, a new study says. And it is possible the sliver of land in an industrial area near the airport and an Anheuser-Busch brewery could hold as many as 200,000 bodies,according to the study done by Malcolm Pirnie, a White Plains,N.Y. environmental engineering firm. The city ordered the study as part of a court ordered restoration of City Cemetery, where people without the money to pay for a funeral were buried between 1869 and 1954. Sometime after the last burial, the city began using the Cemetery as an industrial storage yard, then as a public dump. It's condition was publicized last year when an 85 year old Hackensack woman sued the city after learning that her father was buried there in 1921. Newark officials have found no burial records, but the Malcolm Pirnie report says metal grave markers and perhaps tombstones are buried beneath the trash, and that it "is reasonable to assume" that there 39,000 to 40,000 are buried at the 5.2 acre cemetery, and perhaps as many as 200,000. Eugene Boesch, the archaeologist who conducted the study, recommended that ground-penetrating radar be used this fall to locate graves. Boesch also suggested that the city plant grass and shrubbery, erect a monument to the dead and produce a booklet on the cemetery's history. The restoration is expected to cost more than $1 million.' I saw this this morning and was very interested. I am looking for my husband's ggmother who is not buried in Holy Sepulcher with the rest of the family. I am waiting for a film at the FHC to see if she is possible buried with her parents. She predeceased her husband by 18 years and now I wonder if she might be in this gravesite because he did not have the money to buy a grave. What a mess! Rita

Hello, Does any kind person out there have access to the Orange, NJ Public Library? I need to have two obituaries looked up - I have exact dates of death, etc. I called the library today and apparently their microfilm machine that can produce copies is out of commission, and has been for three years! They have written a grant to try to get the machine fixed but haven't heard yet. Bottom line is that they can't help me. If anyone can go to the library and look these two obits up I would be very grateful, to say the least. Please Email me directly if you can help out. Thanks, Dave in California

Hi all, I am looking for the family of Abigail Allen b. c 1740 d.2/13/1822. She is listed a being "of Hanover" in the 1954 NYGBR article on Peter Smith descendants and married Uriah Smith on 3/28/1770 in Hanover, Morris Co., NJ according to the Hanover Presbyterian Church records. Uriah was b. 1734 and d. 5/6/1816 in either Hanover or Northfield/Livingston NJ. They named their children as follows: Uriah, Joseph, Peter, William, Isaac, Allen, Elizabeth (m. ___Lyon) and Mary (m. ___Wade). I am trying to find Abigail's ancestry as well as confirm the marriage of her daughter Mary to Nathaniel Wade (of Jonathan). I would be grateful for any assistance you may be able to provide, either directly or by pointing me in the direction of likely resources. I am hoping to get to MEHGS in the next few days and would love to be able to dig up some information on these families. Thank you so kindly, Kathleen Pantano kpantano@hotmail.com kpantano@msn.com _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

Hi Folks, Many subscribers seem to send E-mails concerning addresses and telephone numbers for cemeteries. This is a good site: http://www.gac.edu/~kengelha/usframe.html I found it through http://www.cyndislist.com/ Hope this helps some of you. The site also depends on feedback from users. If you have additional addresses and telephone numbers, help them grow. I'm not connected with the site. John Cresseveur - Kentucky

A book was published called Records of Officers and Men of NJ in Wars 1791-1815. In the book there is reference to Thomas Penn-Musician, Capt. Henry H. Van Dalsem's Company; enlisted Feb 16, 1813 for eighteen months; discharged Aug. 11, 1814, expiration of service; re-enlisted at Elizabeth, NJ, as private in Capt. Jacob D. Howell's Company, Nov. 21,1814 for five years; transferred to Captain Armstrong Irvine's company H, Light Artillery, Oct 1, 1815; discharged Oct. 26, 1816; inability. I filled out the form for National Archives for copies of veterans records, but it was sent back 'unable to locate file'. Did I request records from the wrong place? Is there anyone out there who is familiar with these Company's and can help guide me in finding Thomas Penns' military records? Appreciate any information... Linda in Colorado

Hello ECRs, In the past few days I've had a few private emails discussing cemeteries. >From them I've been able to update the Virtual Newark Cemetery page. Also I'd like to point out that it is imperative that you make sure you check the cemetery records and not just view a grave site for information. In many cases, family plots do not have headstones/markers for everyone buried there. Personally, my great-great grandfather & grandmother are buried in the family plot of their daughter's second husband without any headstones. In another case my great-great grandfather (different one) is buried in the family plot of his second wife. Although he is listed on the obelisk marking the site, two other internments are not. Woodland Cemetery update - Internments are now logged through 1965. Email Mary Lish for lookups. Good Luck in your research, ------------ Glenn G. Geisheimer, Iselin, New Jersey: glenng@castle.net NJESSEX Mailing List Administrator Essex County, NJ Genealogy: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njessex/ Virtual Newark, NJ: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~geishome/ Essex Co Resources: http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/NJ/Essex/

Hello Dru, I would check the non-denominational cemeteries in addition to the Catholic Cemeteries (Mt. Olivet RC Cemetery). Have you checked the 1895 NJ State Census and the 1900 Federal Census to see if he still was alive in those years? You also could check the Newark City Directories. This would get you, at least, the year of his death. >I need to find my gg-grandfather. I've lost him!! I assumed (and was >erroneously told by the cemetary) that he is buried with his wife at >Holy Sepulchre. NOT!! Many of the family members are buried in this >plot, but not him. His name, btw, is Patrick Cousins. Does anyone have >any suggestions on how to find him? I can't send for his death >certificate if I don't have any idea when he died. I do know he was >still alive in 1894. I'm really stumped here. I'm wondering if there >were other Catholic cemetaries around 1900 in Newark. I will check the >Virtual Newark pages again on this. If so, why wouldn't he just be >buried with his wife? And where's the rest of the family?? Oh, it's >always more and more questions. <g> ------ Glenn G. Geisheimer glenng@castle.net

Hi Fellow ECR's, I'm in a dilemna I don't know how to solve, and I'm hoping some of your expertise will come in handy. I need to find my gg-grandfather. I've lost him!! I assumed (and was erroneously told by the cemetary) that he is buried with his wife at Holy Sepulchre. NOT!! Many of the family members are buried in this plot, but not him. His name, btw, is Patrick Cousins. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to find him? I can't send for his death certificate if I don't have any idea when he died. I do know he was still alive in 1894. I'm really stumped here. I'm wondering if there were other Catholic cemetaries around 1900 in Newark. I will check the Virtual Newark pages again on this. If so, why wouldn't he just be buried with his wife? And where's the rest of the family?? Oh, it's always more and more questions. <g> Thanks for your suggestions. Dru Beesley dbeesley@iol15.com

Could someone with access to the 1982 City Directory for Irvington,NJ, look up Richard OTTO and send me the information contained. Thank you. Mona in IN

The list on this page; http://www.rootsweb.com/~genepool/burying.htm mentions; BALL, Jonathan - died 5 Nov 1755 (41 yrs) BALL, Jonathan - wife Jemina, daughter Catharine (died 25 Oct 1758 aged 8 yrs 2 mos) BALL, Moses - died 20 Apr 1747 (62 yrs), wife Mary (died 7 Dec 1747 aged 63 yrs) BALL, Thomas - died 18 Oct 1744 in 57th year I know who Thomas and Moses were. Can anyone place the two Jonathans? Tom Welch

Is anyone researching the HENN or WELLHAUSEN FAMILIES that lived in Newark from abt. 1800 on. I am looking for information on Wilhelmina WELLHAUSEN m. John MUELLER (MILLER) abt. 1850. Maria Elizabeth HENN m. Michael HUCK abt. 1840 in Germany but may have moved to NJ with son Jakob HUCK in 1866. .....Karen

David SACHS, a twenty three year old clerk, was listed as father of Helen Sachs born 1904 to Bessie Lovelace, seventeen year old housekeeper, in Newark NJ Family hostory says he died in an accident with a carriage or beer wagon - trampled. I have't found him yet so I don't know when or where he died or where he is buried. Bessie is said to have studied opera in NY and as Newark is just across the bridge I was hoping someone might have a lead for him. Family history also said that David was connected to the Sax Fifth Aveue family?? Looking for ANY leads or suggestions Thanks Doris Mayer Reece down in Alabama

>Does anyone know if there are records of interment in the Old Burial Ground? Hello Rita, That information can be found at: <http://www.rootsweb.com/~njessex/alpha/lookups.htm#CEMETERY INSCRIPTIONS> The headstones and internments were moved to Fairmount, which also has the records. --------- Glenn G. Geisheimer, Iselin, New Jersey: glenng@castle.net If I've been able to point you in a direction, please email me with your results so that I may help other researchers. Virtual Newark, NJ (new site address): http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~geishome/

Hi, Does anyone know if there are records of interment in the Old Burial Ground? Thank you, Rita

Need help with obit lookup pleeeeze. George Stuhlinger born Oct 25, 1875 (Newark, NJ) died July 7, 1939 Newark, NJ, wife Anna Grimm George King born March 30, 1887 (England), died Oct. 16, 1929, Newark, NJ any help will be greatly appreciated. I am thinking the Newark Star Ledger may have been in existance maybe for 1939 but 1929 I don't know. Thanks, Ellen Gilroy Wyoming, Pa Ellen542@aol.com

Is anyone available to do an obituary lookup for: Robert M. Penn who died 11/16/1936 in Cedar Grove, NJ. He lived in West Orange. I don't know what the local newspapers were for that area during that time period. Any help would be appreciated. Linda in Colorado

--=====================_934493348==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" does any one have connection to my REILLY of Essex co.Newark,NJ living with Thomas & his wife Kate in 1860. LEE --=====================_934493348==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="reilly.txt" First Generation=20 =97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97= =97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97 1. Thomas O'REILLY Sr., M. Thomas married Ann O'REILLY1, F. They had the following children: 2 i. Thomas, M (?1838-1903) 3 ii. Daniel, M 4 iii. Chris?, M 5 iv. Patrick, M =0C Second Generation=20 =97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97= =97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97 Family of Thomas O'REILLY Sr. (1) & Ann O'REILLY 2. Thomas REILLY Jr., M. Born ? 1838 in Ireland. Thomas died in Huron= County OH on 25 DEC 1903, he was 65. Buried in St. Joeseph Cemetary= Monroeville OH. . In 1867 when Thomas was 29, he married Mary Elizebeth (LYONS) REILLY, F,= daughter of Stephen T. LYONS, M & Catherine (SANDERS) LYONS, F, in New= Jersey. Born on 15 DEC 1845 in Rockaway or Hibernia, NJ.1,2 Mary Elizebeth= (LYONS) died in Sandusky County OH on 17 MAR 1926, she was 80.2,3 Buried on= 20 MAR 1926 in St.Joseph Cem.Ridgefield TWP.Huron Co.Ohio.4 They had the following children: 6 i. Cora (REILLY), F (1868-1931) 7 ii. Frank Ortive, M (1869-1938) 8 iii. Henry Bernard, M (1871-1931) 9 iv. George Markus, M (1872-1947) 10 v. Alice Bell, F (1875-1879) 11 vi. Daniel Thomas, M (1880-1953) 12 vii. Louis, M (?1882-1899) 13 viii. Orrin Thomas, M (1883-1887) 14 ix. Edward Roscoe, M (1889-1957) 3. Daniel REILLY, M. Born in Ireland. 4. Chris? REILLY, M. 5. Patrick REILLY, M. Born in Ireland. Child: 15 i. Kathryn, F =0C Third Generation=20 =97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97= =97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97=97 Family of Thomas REILLY Jr. (2) & Mary Elizebeth (LYONS) REILLY 6. Cora (REILLY) WISE, F. Born on 5 SEP 1868 in Huron County OH.1 Cora= (REILLY) died in MAY 1931, she was 62. Cora (REILLY) married Will WISE, M. They had one child: i. Orrin, M (1893-?) 7. Frank Ortive REILLY, M. Born on 8 DEC 1869 in Monroeville.1,5 Frank= Ortive died in Norwalk Huron County OH on 25 NOV 1938, he was 68. Buried on= 28 NOV 1938 in Monroeville OH. . On 17 NOV 1892 when Frank Ortive was 22, he married Hanna (KITCHEN) REILLY,= F, in Monroeville OH. Born on 10 JUN 1871 in Monroeville OH. Hanna= (KITCHEN) died in Toledo, Lucas County OH on 7 JAN 1940, she was 68. . They had the following children: i. Harley Franklin, M (1899-1967) ii. Edna (REILLY), F (~1911-1977) 8. Henry Bernard REILLY, M. Born on 24 MAR 1871 in Ridgefield TWP, Huron= County OH. Henry Bernard died in Norwalk Huron County OH on 4 APR 1931, he= was 60. Buried on 7 APR 1931 in St.Joseph Cem.Ridgefield TWP.Huron= Co.Ohio.4 . In 1898 when Henry Bernard was 26, he married Carrie Blanche (AMERMAN)= REILLY, F. Born on 2 MAR 1878. Carrie Blanche (AMERMAN) died in Swanton OH= in 1972, she was 93. Buried in St. Joeseph Cemetary Monroeville OH.6 . They had the following children: i. Albert Eugene, M (1899-1930) ii. Aurthur Clifton, M (1900-1917) iii. William Henry, M (1902-) iv. Walter Daniel, M (1905-1977) v. Mary Eleanor (REILLY)MOORE, F (1907-) vi. Bertha May (REILLY), F (1915->1991) vii. Louis Herbert, M (1916-) 9. George Markus REILLY, M. Born on 3 JUN 1872 in Monroeville OH. George= Markus died in Norwalk Huron County OH on 1 APR 1947, he was 74. Buried on= 3 APR 1947 in Woodlawn Cemetary, Norwalk OH. . George Markus married Bertha (LOHR) REILLY, F, daughter of William E. LOHR,= M & Mary E.(COLE) LOHR, F. Born on 1 AUG 1874 in Huron Co.Norwalk,OH.= Bertha (LOHR) died in Huron Co.Norwalk,OH,Fisher-Titus Mem.Hosp. on 30 OCT= 1963, she was 89. Buried on 1 NOV 1963 in Woodlawn Cemetary, Norwalk OH. . 10. Alice Bell REILLY, F. Born on 2 NOV 1875. Alice Bell died on 24 JAN= 1879, she was 3. Buried in St.Joseph Cem.Ridgefield TWP.Huron Co.Ohio.7 11. Daniel Thomas REILLY, M. Born on 21 JUN 1880 in Monroeville OH. Daniel= Thomas died in Norwalk Huron County OH on 10 JAN 1953, he was 72. Buried on= 14 JAN 1953 in St. Paul Cemetary Norwalk OH. . . Daniel Thomas married Helen E. (HAYES) REILLY, F. Born on 1 SEP 1882 in= Bismark OH. Helen E. (HAYES) died in Norwalk Huron County OH Fisher-Titus= Hospital on 9 JUN 1963, she was 80. Buried on 12 JUN 1963 in St. Paul= Cemetary. . They had one child: i. Elizabeth Jean (REILLY), F (1920-) 12. Louis REILLY, M. Born ? 1882. Louis died in Bronson, Huron Cty. OH on 2= MAR 1899, he was 17.5 Buried on 13 MAR 1899 in St.Joseph Cem.Ridgefield= TWP.Huron Co.Ohio.4 . 13. Orrin Thomas REILLY, M. Born on 20 JAN 1883 in Ridgefield, Huron Cty.= OH.8 Orrin Thomas died in Ridgefield, Huron Cty. OH on 23 SEP 1887, he was= 4.5 Buried in St. Joeseph Cemetary Monroeville OH. . . 14. Edward Roscoe REILLY, M. Born on 9 MAY 1889 in Ridgefield, Huron Cty.= OH.8 Edward Roscoe died in Bronson TWP Huron County OH on 17 FEB 1957, he= was 67. Buried on 20 FEB 1957 in St. Alphonsus Cemetary Norwalk OH. . . . In 1908 when Edward Roscoe was 18, he married Anna Head (WALSWORTH) REILLY,= F, daughter of Elija Curtis WALSWORTH, M & Sara Maria (SMITH) WALSWORTH, F.= Born on 12 MAY 1892 in Ridgefield TWP.Ohio. Anna Head (WALSWORTH) died in= Bronson TWP Huron County OH on 13 MAR 1940, she was 47. Buried on 16 MAR= 1940 in St. Alphonsus Cemetary Norwalk OH. . . They had the following children: i. Helen Sarah, F (1915-) ii. Alice Marie (REILLY), F (1918-) iii. Robert Edward, M (1920-1985) iv. Hazel Ellen (REILLY), F (1922-) v. Doris Lucille, F (1924-1926) vi. Frances Mable (REILLY), F (1926-) vii. John Thomas, M (1928-) Family of Patrick REILLY (5) 15. Kathryn REILLY, F. =0C1. as per information from James H. Maloney 2. Sandusky Cty. death certificate 3. from internet 4. Church records St. Mary's 5. Huron Cty. death certificates 6. Obituary from Swanton? 7. Huron Co.Ohio Cem.Inscription Book. 8. Huron Cty. birth certificate --=====================_934493348==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" NORTHERN OHIO -MR.JAY & MRS.LEE- E-Mail us at: reilly@accnorwalk.com :) --=====================_934493348==_--

Hi, I went into a search for the zip code for 83 Washington Ave., St. Patricks Pro- Cathedral and was given the location as Belleville. Is this correct? Obviously I don't know anything about Newark. Thank you, Rita

Hello ECR's, I am having lots of trouble trying to send email lookup replies to those with aol.com email addresses, but I do not seem to be having any problems sending emails to other people without aol.com addresses. I will try any reply using a different email server. I do not know what is 'special' about the aol.com addresses!!!! Has anyone come across these types of problems? Regards, Steve

Hi, I will NOT take new lookups. The directory went back this morning. I will only check my handwritten notes for people I might have missed sending information. Rita