Am willing to do Chicago IL Tribune obit lookups in trade for obit lookups that I need. I need obit lookups for the following Faxon, Roy Gifford d) 2/16/1964 in NJ-East Orange, Essex Co Woolworth, Danforth d) 11/18/1860 in NJ-Newark, Essex Co PLEASE EMAIL ME PRIVATELY AT [email protected] Jim Dlask 4538 N Avers Chicago IL 60625

Right on, Jan. Still, people like to have the other and it's ok so long as they take it with many grains of salt. I just posted the numbers because people will look anyway and it is mildly intersting. Inter-temporal comparisons are very difficult. Even today, we find it hard to compare this decade with the last. How do you value a home computer compared to 30 years ago. Should it be valued as a typewriter, chart-drawer, grammar-checker, entertainment device (and which device) etc. If we just take computing power, my little desktop is worth far more than Sperry-Rand's Univac. Does that make me a multi-millionaire? (We have several computers.) What would be nice would be some survey of prices and wages in the particular periods. I've seen some of it done for England, but not for the states. WBB >>> "Jan Jacot" <[email protected]> 11/12/03 12:25PM >>> Hi Listers, My own measurement mechanism utilized for evaluating my 1700s ancestors prosperity level is through examining and studying wills and inventories of others of same locality, e.g., ETown, Newark, Westfield. Comparing an ancestor?s property holdings and inventory makeup and overall value, with/against Others of community associates or even other family members, can provide a very useful barometer into your own ancestor?s level of means,life style,and prosperity of those times. Perhaps constitutes an even better equasion than trying to compute into some modern times money values... Jan in CA -- ... life is a gift, use it well every day... ==== NJESSEX Mailing List ==== Visit the NJGenWeb Site at: <http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhttp://www.rootsweb.com/~njgenweb/subindex.htm> ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Listers, My own measurement mechanism utilized for evaluating my 1700s ancestors prosperity level is through examining and studying wills and inventories of others of same locality, e.g., ETown, Newark, Westfield. Comparing an ancestor?s property holdings and inventory makeup and overall value, with/against Others of community associates or even other family members, can provide a very useful barometer into your own ancestor?s level of means,life style,and prosperity of those times. Perhaps constitutes an even better equasion than trying to compute into some modern times money values... Jan in CA -- ... life is a gift, use it well every day...

Judy, Yes, you can go to www.starledger.com/archive.asp click on searchable archives, and it will give you the information. Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred & Judy Brauns" <[email protected]> To: "whitney110" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [NJESSEX] Re: Newark Newspapers > Do they have the obits back to 1989? > > Judy in NC > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: whitney110 <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: November 10, 2003 6:22 PM > Subject: [NJESSEX] Re: Newark Newspapers > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I've gotten some responses telling me about nj.com.................... > > I do realize that you can access the Star Ledger, but only archives back > to 1989, and only certain information. I am looking to see the papers on > line from the early 1900's page by page and searchable by name, like the NY > Times is. > > > > Debbie > > > > > > ==== NJESSEX Mailing List ==== > > Visit the NJGenWeb Site at: > > > <http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhttp://www.rootsweb.com/~njgenweb/subindex.htm> > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

I found some American figures. It's very hard to compare prices over decades, and centuries even harder. However, we need some feel for it. I dug out some American figures. With a base of 100 for 1967 (Dept of Commerce figures), the price level in 1800 was 51. That is interesting, because it means that the price level only doubled in nearly 170 years. It had shot up sharply during the Civil War, but fell again afterwards. We've had a lot of inflation since 1967, however, and in 2002 the consumer price index stood at 543 ― 5.4 times the 1967 level, and 10.8 times the 1800 level. Figures are of course more sparse for the earlier period. However, Commerce estimates the price level in 1770 at 80, using 1850-59 as a base for 100. The Revolutionary War years showed very high prices, but they were temporary and subsided when the war ran down. And things are a bit of a mess with many currencies going in the period. You'll notice most estates are still stated in pounds sterling ― indeed, often until well after the war, many remain in sterling. Unless it is right in the 1779-1781 years of very high inflation, we can figure the 1770 price at 80% of 1860 prices. So 10.8 divided by .8 is 13.5. VERRY RRoughly then, multiply your pre-Revolution figure by 14. Post-Revolution prices were above 1850s prices, so multiply by 9 or 10. Yes, I am an economist, but I won't stake my reputation on these quick and dirty figures. The British figures are of interest, but after the First World War began, American and British inflations moved in quite different ways. It is interesting to contemplate, however, that we have lived through the most inflationary period in American history. My maternal grandfather (1878-1944) would have seen inflation only in the last year or so of his life. Prices went up in the First World War, but down again in the calamatous Depression years. Wilson Brown.

In a message dated 11/10/2003 12:23:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > I've gotten some responses telling me about nj.com.................... > I do realize that you can access the Star Ledger, but only archives back to > 1989, and only certain information. I am looking to see the papers on line > from the early 1900's page by page and searchable by name, like the NY Times > is. > > Debbie > > Debbie, If you find one, please be sure to post it to the list. I, for one, would be very interested in it also. Dot 000---Outgoing email scanned by Norton Antivirus---000

There is a very useful site here in the UK run by a gentleman called Rodney Hall that has many useful genealogical links. The site is http://www.rmhh.co.uk/ One of the links gives an instant converter of old sums into today's equivalent. Your 1750 figure of Pounds 200 would, at least in the UK, now be about the equivalent of Pounds 21,000 in purchasing power terms. I guess that that's about USD 34,000. Hope this helps. Regards. Peter Charles in rural Buckinghamshire, England

Can anyone give me a rough estimate as to the equivalent value in today's terms of a personal estate (not including real estate) of 200 Pounds in 1750? If the estate inventory was for that amount, would that have been a very small estate, about average or what? Thanks. Betty

Hi, I am looking for Edith Slayback Harker married to William Hurlbut Underhill of East Orange, NY m. ~ 26th Feb. 1905. Edith grad from Vassar. Any one know these folks. I would appreciate hearing from you. Gwen in WA State

Tell us how we access this All best wishes SallyEllen R. Schilling Wachusett American Eskimos Central Massachusetts AEDCONE (UKC) September 2003 show info is online now, mark your calendars for September 27 and 28, 2003 to come to New England in the Fall and see the foliage! Please book you hotel rooms NOW! The BIG-E is held during the month of September. http://home.earthlink.net/~aedcone/Sept2003ShowInfo.htm http://home.earthlink.net/~wachusett_eskies http://home.earthlink.net/~aedcone American Eskimo Dog Club of New England (UKC) http://naedac.topcities.com National American Eskimo Dog Association of Canada (CKC affiliated) -----Original Message----- From: whitney110 [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NJESSEX] Re: Newark Newspapers Hi everyone, I've gotten some responses telling me about nj.com.................... I do realize that you can access the Star Ledger, but only archives back to 1989, and only certain information. I am looking to see the papers on line from the early 1900's page by page and searchable by name, like the NY Times is. Debbie ==== NJESSEX Mailing List ==== Visit the NJGenWeb Site at: <http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhttp://www.rootsweb.com/~njgenweb/subindex.htm> ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi everyone, I've gotten some responses telling me about nj.com.................... I do realize that you can access the Star Ledger, but only archives back to 1989, and only certain information. I am looking to see the papers on line from the early 1900's page by page and searchable by name, like the NY Times is. Debbie

The Bergen County Historical Society cordially invites you to its pre-Holidays BOOK SALE on Sunday, November 16th, 2:30 - 5:00, and on Sunday November 23rd, 1:00 - 4:00, at the Campbell Christie House, Historic New Bridge Landing, on Main Street in River Edge, NJ.  Proceeds are to benefit the BCHS library. The BCHS is offering a 10% discount to all members of historical and genealogical organizations bearing current valid membership cards.  (BCHS members receive 20%.) There are hundreds of books, primarily histories, but some genealogies and MANY rare and first editions. Payment is cash or check only (sorry, no credit cards). To receive the 10% discount, one must present his or her valid current membership card - no exceptions!  Directions to the Campbell-Christie House at Historic New Bridge Landing are on the BCHS website:  <A HREF="www.carroll.com/bchs">www.carroll.com/bchs</A> The BCHS, a self-supporting non-profit organization, thanks you for your support! If you would like to post hard copy of this event, please email [email protected]  You must be able to receive an MS Word attachment.  Please copy this email out to any organization or individual who would welcome it.  Thank-you -- Nancy Terhune Morrison Trustee, The Bergen County Historical Society Chair of the Library Collections

In a message dated 11/9/2003 7:34:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Hi everyone, I wonder if there will ever be a sight where the Newark Evening News/Star Ledger will be accessible online like the New York Times. does anyone know? http://www.nj.com/ NJ.com - Everything Jersey The Star Ledger and seven other newspapers. AnnVictoria

Hi everyone, I wonder if there will ever be a sight where the Newark Evening News/Star Ledger will be accessible online like the New York Times. does anyone know? If there is someone out there who doesn't subscribe to the NY mailing lists, and doesn't know this info, here it is......... It's a valuable resource for some things in NJ as well as NY city. "The New York Times" is online free until Dec. 15th 2003. It's not just an index, but every page. from 1851-2001. First, go to www.riversideregionallibrary.org Second, click on "ProQuest Historical New York Times" Third, use the guest password here, which is -Welcome Fourth, click on "ProQuest Historical New York Times" again, search and enjoy! Debbie

Hi: Several questions: 1. My father was born to Russian/Ukrainian immigrants in 1912 in Newark, NJ... did they have birth certificates at that time? And if so, where would I write for such, and what information must I provide, AND most of all, what information would be included? I am looking for my grandmother's maiden name... 2. My father was a fraternal twin, the twin a female supposedly died at birth... would there be any record of this birth? 3. As previously mentioned, my father was born of Russian/Ukrainian immigrants... I suspect my grandparents were married in 1911, where would I write for information... All best wishes SallyEllen R. Schilling Wachusett American Eskimos Central Massachusetts AEDCONE (UKC) September 2003 show info is online now, mark your calendars for September 27 and 28, 2003 to come to New England in the Fall and see the foliage! Please book you hotel rooms NOW! The BIG-E is held during the month of September. http://home.earthlink.net/~aedcone/Sept2003ShowInfo.htm http://home.earthlink.net/~wachusett_eskies http://home.earthlink.net/~aedcone American Eskimo Dog Club of New England (UKC) http://naedac.topcities.com National American Eskimo Dog Association of Canada (CKC affiliated)

Hi, I am looking for descendants of Patrick LLOYD and Ann MC DERMIT and Anna O'CONNER. They lived in Newark 1850-. Looking for descendants of their children, James, George, Dennis, Thomas. Rita

The Genealogical Society of New Jersey invites you to join us for our 82nd Annual Meeting and Fall Lecture When: Saturday, November 15, 2003 11:00 a.m. Where: Rutgers University Student Center 126 College Avenue New Brunswick, NJ There will be a brief business meeting followed by Anita A. Lustenberger, CG, presenting a lecture entitled “Using DNA in Your Genealogical Research” Anita Anderson Lustenberger, CG, is a certified genealogist specializing in the Hudson Valley. She is also a certified genetic counselor. She has lectured at many local, regional, and national conferences, and has had articles published in national journals. She is a trustee of NYG&B, NEHGS and a former trustee of APG. DNA analysis can pick up where the paper trail ends. It is not a substitute for traditional research but it is a very useful new tool that can supplement it. If the studies are constructed correctly, DNA analysis can test hypotheses, confirm lineages, and suggest where the genealogist should focus future research. This GSNJ program is free of charge and open to the general public. Reservations are suggested in order to ensure adequate seating. Please send email to: [email protected] by November 7, 2003. Special Collections & University Archives, Alexander Library, at Rutgers University will be open from 1:00 p.m. until 5:00 p.m. The GSNJ's collections and Special Collections' genealogical materials will be available during this time for use by meeting attendees. The Food Court in the Student Center and nearby restaurants will be available for lunch after the meeting. Directions to GSNJ Annual Meeting >From New Jersey Turnpike (North or South) Exit 9 or Route 1 (North or South) Follow signs for "Route 18 North - New Brunswick.” Proceed along Route 18 North past exit for "Route 27" and take the exit marked "George Street-Rutgers University" (approx 2.6 miles from Turnpike). At the top of the exit ramp bear left onto George Street. Make the first right onto Seminary Place. At the end of Seminary Place make a right onto College Ave. The Rutgers Student Center is on the left after four blocks (between Bartlett St. and Senior St.) >From Route 287 (North or South) Turn off at Exit 9 (Formerly Exit 5) "River Road, Bound Brook, Highland Park". Proceed east on River Road toward Highland Park until you reach the fifth traffic light (approximately 3.4 miles) at the intersection of River Road, Metlars Lane and Route 18. Turn right onto Route 18 and cross the Raritan River on the John Lynch Memorial Bridge. Stay in the right lane and take the first exit which is marked "George Street - Rutgers University, New Brunswick, Route 27.” At the traffic light at the top of the exit ramp turn right onto Huntington Street, then turn left at the first traffic light onto College Avenue. Proceed approximately three blocks, and the Rutgers Student Center is on your right. Parking: In parking lot behind the Rutgers Student Center and Gym. Vehicle entrance to parking lot is on Sicard St. Parking is also available on the upper levels of the parking deck behind Brower Commons, across the street from the Student Center, entrance on College Ave. Street parking at meters also is available.

Thanks for posting the information, I am glad to find out that it is possible to trace my great grandmothers arrest ! Trisha Fitz Randolph President/Owner Fitz Randolph Genealogical & Historical Society of NJ http://www.rootsweb.com/~njfrghs/

Time - thanks for the great site. I enjoyed it very much and added it to my favorite list. -Rita

Found some of my family here, hope it helps: Best of Luck, Tim http://www.jerseyhistory.org/findingaid.php?aid=1362 Gold <[email protected]> wrote: I found out the Police Gazette is not a magazine but a weekly police newsletter issued since 1755 Volumes 59-89, 1891-1906, is on microfilm in the Miami-Dade Co. Community College in FL. Some volumes and years were missing. I was hoping to find info about NJ policemen but it mostly had 1. case write-ups but didn't report the arresting officer 2. many, many, many full page pictures of showgirls 3. many, many, many articles on various shows/plays 4. lots of ads including one repeated for "The Magic Money-Maker". "By taking a common, ordinary piece of blank paper and inserting betwen the rollers and then turning the crank, you can produce bills of any denomination and no one, not even an expert, can detect difference from genuine." All in all it was a BIG disappointment. KLAFFKY was not listed in Reel 14, Vols. 59-62,1891-1893, nor Reel 17, Vols. 69-75, 9-18-1896 to 2-10-18900. The few police names I saw were John Thomas HINMAN, Coney Island, NY Jack KELFE, Chief, Jacksonville, FL ? STRAIT, Owega, NY Patrick DUGA, LA Chief John CAREY, NY Detective shot 11-19-1892 David D. LEES, Sheriff Chas HALL, IL Chief Michael O'BRIEN, Albion, NY Chief James Bobbie CONNORS, SD Officer John PORTER, Camden, NJ, Lt. of Police Geo. DAISEY, Gloucester, NJ Officer Chas. BORMANN, Detective, St. Louis, OH or MO Wm. S. RAWLEIGH, MD Chief ???? McCULLAGH, NY Police Capt. Marshall BOLL, Tampa, FL 3-4-1896 Sargeant KANE, Cinn. 4-22-1893 Thomas PHELAN, Capt., Kansas City Harry C. GARRISON, Gloucester NJ Officer Wm. RILEY, Cinn., OH, 453 W. 5th St. J. M. REEDER, Knoxville, TN, Asst. Chief 5-20-1853 Gold ==== NJESSEX Mailing List ==== Know the town name but not county? Search: ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears