Can anyone tell me what is at 21 Orleans Street now? Thank you, Virginia

Montclair had (maybe has?) a weekly or semi-weekly paper called the Montclair Times. It might be the closest you'll get. As far as I can tell the Montclair Public Library may be the only library with a full run of the paper. I've never used it so I don't know if it had any obituaries or not. I would have expected to find a Montclair or Upper Montclair obituary or death notice in either the Newark Evening News or in the Newark Star Ledger. Joan M. Lowry mailto:[email protected] > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 11:17 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NJESSEX] Newspaper for Upper Montclair > > > I'm looking for a newspaper for Upper Montclair to find an Obituary for an > ancestor of a friend of mine from Illinois. The person died on August 20th, > 1921. I tried looking up the Obit the last time I was at the State Library in > Trenton in the Newark Evening News, however, I couldn't find the person I was > looking for. Can someone make a recommendation as to which newspaper to try? > Thanks for your time. > > Jack > > ______________________________

The main newspaper index at Newark Public Library would be the one for the Newark Evening News, I think. There is a biographical index for each year, sorted by the first 3 letters of the surname. That does index obituaries - but not the (smaller) paid death notices, which are often considered classified ads and which many people had who did not have an obituary. I don't know if they do mail reference for the index - but it would certainly be worth trying. They also have other indexes by subject - like crimes, business stuff, other things like that. One thing to note about the Evening News indexes is that they were done at the time the papers were published and they indexed ALL the day's editions of the paper. Unfortunately, only ONE edition of the paper was kept and microfilmed. It is, therefore, possible to find something or someone in the index and have the article or obituary NOT be in the microfilm. Often you can find at least some mention - maybe the death notice, say, in the filmed edition or in the previous or next day's paper - but the indexed item may only have been in an edition that wasn't kept. There is a card index to the Star Ledger for later years. I think it covers unusual deaths (maybe accidents and murders, say) and maybe obits for famous people - but I don't think that it does obituaries or death notices for the general populace. I've used it to locate news items or stories and haven't found it to be helpful for obituaries. I don't know if they do mail reference for that card catalog either - but you can ask. (I've only used the indexes in person in the library - where the staff is always most helpful!!) Joan M. Lowry mailto:[email protected] > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 11:20 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NJESSEX] Star Ledger index at Newark Library > > > Hello:- > > Is there anyone out there that has used the Star Ledger index at the Newark > Library??? > > I understand that if you have a name, this list will indicate the date the > name appeared in the Ledger. I'm trying to pinpoint dates.... > > Please let me know how it works, availability, etc. any help.... > > Thank you. > > Rob > > ______________________________

If anyone is researching JOHN BLAIR who died in Bloomfield at the age of 85 on August 20, 1890, I have copy of his deah record and will be glad to pass it on. He is not "mine." Mac

Hello:- Is there anyone out there that has used the Star Ledger index at the Newark Library??? I understand that if you have a name, this list will indicate the date the name appeared in the Ledger. I'm trying to pinpoint dates.... Please let me know how it works, availability, etc. any help.... Thank you. Rob

I'm looking for a newspaper for Upper Montclair to find an Obituary for an ancestor of a friend of mine from Illinois. The person died on August 20th, 1921. I tried looking up the Obit the last time I was at the State Library in Trenton in the Newark Evening News, however, I couldn't find the person I was looking for. Can someone make a recommendation as to which newspaper to try? Thanks for your time. Jack

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FYI - Cedar Grove, Essex County is not near Broad Street in Newark. Overbrook (Essex County Hospital) is in Cedar Grove. --- [email protected] wrote: > There was a mental hospital (Esses County Hospital) > located in the Township > of Cedar Grove at 197 Broad Street in Newark where > I had a great-aunt die back > in 1936. She'd been there 26 years when she died. > > I don't have the Census ED information but residents > would have been counted > and perhaps listed at that address without > identifying their reason for > "living" at that address. > > Hope this helps some one. > > Gail in Syracuse NY > > > ==== NJESSEX Mailing List ==== > Researching Newark? Visit Old Newark at: > <http://www.oldnewark.com/> > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the > new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click > to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools

Re: SOHO which was properly called the Essex County Isolation Hospital, It is located near the Newark/Belleville/Bloomfied lines, not close to the Turnpike. My brother and I were confined there when we had Scarlet Fever in 1938 It is now used to care for the elderly... Greystone hospital is located in Morris Plains ( Morris County ), NJ. My wife did her nurses training at St. Michaels Hospital in Newark and As part of her education, spent 6 or 8 weeks nursing mentally ill patients at Overbrook Hospital in Verona/Cedar Grove ( Essex County ), NJ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 9:53 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [NJESSEX] CONTAGIOUS DISEASE HOSP, AND INSANE ASYLUMS DURING THE 30S AND 40S AT LEAST(ERA I AM AWARE OF) THE CONTAGIOUS DISEASE HOSPITAL FOR THE NURSES IN TRAINING AT BETH ISRAEL, NEWARK WAS SOHO. THE INSANE ASYLUM THEY TRAINED AT WAS GREYSTONE. SOHO WAS AS I REMEMBER, SOMEWHERE NEAR THE TURNPIKE WHEN WE WOULD DRIVE INTO NYC. FROM THE JERSEY SHORE. HOWEVER, GREYSTONE WAS FURTHER INLAND. SOHO HAD EVERYTHING FROM WHOOPING COUGH TO POLIO AND TETNUS. LINDA ==== NJESSEX Mailing List ==== Visit the Essex County Genealogy Web Site at: <http://www.rootsweb.com/~njessex/> ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

There was a mental hospital (Esses County Hospital) located in the Township of Cedar Grove at 197 Broad Street in Newark where I had a great-aunt die back in 1936. She'd been there 26 years when she died. I don't have the Census ED information but residents would have been counted and perhaps listed at that address without identifying their reason for "living" at that address. Hope this helps some one. Gail in Syracuse NY

AND SOME PEOPLE SHIPPED THEIR LOVED ONES AWAY TO COUNTRY - FOR WHATEVER REASON THEY DID THAT STUFF IN THOSE DAYS. EVEN THO IT IS CLOSED FOR MANY YEARS NOW, THERE ARE GRAVES THERE STILL. ONE OF HTEM IS PROBABLY RELATED TO MY COYNE FAMILY. SENILITY AND ALZHEIMERS, AS WE KNOW IT NOW, WAS JUST "TETCHED" AS MY RELATIVES WOULD SAY. OR THEY SAID "PREMATURE SENILITY" OR JUST CRAZY. SAD THAT PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT, WHEN IN FACT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN PHYSICAL REASONS FOR THE PROBLEM. ALSO THERE WERE SOME DANGEROUS PEOPLE THERE WHEN MY MOTHER WORKED AT THE HOSPITAL PART(LIKE WHEN THEY HAD SURGERY) IN 65. pEOPLE WHO WERE CONFINED TO WRISTLETS ETC. SO THEY WOULDNT INJURE THE CARETAKERS AND NURSES. LINDA

For anyone who's interested, there was also the NJ State Village for Epileptics at Skillman. I had a relative who was there in 1920. I believe Skillman is in Somerset County, but I'm not positive about that. As far as I've been told by the family, my relative was not epileptic, but mentally unstable. This might help someone who's looking for sick relatives. Dru. -------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: 03/01/04 06:54:13 To: [email protected] Subject: [NJESSEX] CONTAGIOUS DISEASE HOSP, AND INSANE ASYLUMS DURING THE 30S AND 40S AT LEAST(ERA I AM AWARE OF) THE CONTAGIOUS DISEASE HOSPITAL FOR THE NURSES IN TRAINING AT BETH ISRAEL, NEWARK WAS SOHO. THE INSANE ASYLUM THEY TRAINED AT WAS GREYSTONE. SOHO WAS AS I REMEMBER, SOMEWHERE NEAR THE TURNPIKE WHEN WE WOULD DRIVE INTO NYC. FROM THE JERSEY SHORE. HOWEVER, GREYSTONE WAS FURTHER INLAND. SOHO HAD EVERYTHING FROM WHOOPING COUGH TO POLIO AND TETNUS. LINDA ==== NJESSEX Mailing List ==== Visit the Essex County Genealogy Web Site at: <http://www.rootsweb.com/~njessex/> ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

DURING THE 30S AND 40S AT LEAST(ERA I AM AWARE OF) THE CONTAGIOUS DISEASE HOSPITAL FOR THE NURSES IN TRAINING AT BETH ISRAEL, NEWARK WAS SOHO. THE INSANE ASYLUM THEY TRAINED AT WAS GREYSTONE. SOHO WAS AS I REMEMBER, SOMEWHERE NEAR THE TURNPIKE WHEN WE WOULD DRIVE INTO NYC. FROM THE JERSEY SHORE. HOWEVER, GREYSTONE WAS FURTHER INLAND. SOHO HAD EVERYTHING FROM WHOOPING COUGH TO POLIO AND TETNUS. LINDA

There are some Haunted Asylums listed on www.weirdnj.com Karen ---- Original Message ----- From: "charlotte prickett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 9:26 AM Subject: [NJESSEX] Asylums > Dear Listers: > > HAUNTED ASYLUMS. ... The history of The Essex Mountain Sanatorium begins > with The Newark > City Home, which was established in Verona New Jersey in 1873 on property > ... > > darkland.i8.com/haunted_asylums.html > > Got lost on who wanted info originally. This looks like a good site. > > C.H. Prickett > Elkton, Maryland > > _________________________________________________________________ > Stay informed on Election 2004 and the race to Super Tuesday. > http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx > > > ==== NJESSEX Mailing List ==== > Visit the NJGenWeb Site at: > <http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhttp://www.rootsweb.com/~njgenweb/subindex.htm> > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

hello everyone, is anyone researching the Fred lauer 1897-1976 and his wife Anna 1903-1981 ( nee magley)family, both of Newark /Irvington Or his sister Elizabeth lauer (married name liable ) Elizabeth had 2 brother-in-law's an otto and William liable. Thanks. Kevin j olvaney

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Can anyone tell me what enumeration district 21 Orleans St., would fall under on the 1930 Census? Thank you, Virginia

Dear Listers: HAUNTED ASYLUMS. ... The history of The Essex Mountain Sanatorium begins with The Newark City Home, which was established in Verona New Jersey in 1873 on property ... darkland.i8.com/haunted_asylums.html Got lost on who wanted info originally. This looks like a good site. C.H. Prickett Elkton, Maryland _________________________________________________________________ Stay informed on Election 2004 and the race to Super Tuesday. http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx

I did four different google searches and found the following links... http://www.google.com/search?q=Tuberculosis+Hospitals+of+the+late+1890%27s+in+NJ&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&start=10&sa=N http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Tuberculosis+Sanitarium+in+NJ http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Sanitarium+for+Tuberculosis+in+nj http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=JERSEY+STATE+TUBERCULOSIS+SANITARIUM This one has a link to Hospitals and Asylums, present and past. Abandoned Insane Asylums - Robert Foster's site featuring photos and historic images of abandoned asylums in the United States. Karen > > -----Original Message----- > From: C.C. Mac [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 4:20 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NJESSEX] Tuberculosis Hospitals > > An ancestor who lived in Newark died of TB in 1890 or 1891. I tried to > get a death certificate from Health & Sr Services, but they could find no > record of his death in Newark. > > This makes me wonder if he was taken to a TB hospital in county but > outside of the city. Does anyone have an idea where else he might have > been sent in this time frame? > > Mac > > > ==== NJESSEX Mailing List ==== > Visit the Essex County Genealogy Web Site at: > <http://www.rootsweb.com/~njessex/> > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== NJESSEX Mailing List ==== > Visit the Essex County Genealogy Web Site at: > <http://www.rootsweb.com/~njessex/> > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Carol - (I'm copying to the web board as well for possible family lurkers)... I'm way behind in my message board reading, but I was just on the GSNJ website (http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsnj/cemetery.html) , looked through their "Cemetery Inventory" listing and could not find ANY of the ones my relatives are supposedly buried in...one being Holy Sepulcher... Could I get a scanned copy of the cemetery sent to me as well? My ggrandmother, Clementina Manna (nee) Izzi d.September 09, 1981 in NC and was buried in Holy Sepulchre on September 14, 1981. I live in Florida and my immediate family never went to her funeral....so any kind soul who could e-mail a photo of her grave site, it would be so much appreciated. She died when I was 13...what a wonderful and dearly missed person she is. Thank you in advance! Searching: Acuff, Ardito, Buie, deBlok, DenBleyker/DenBleiker, Manna, Izzi, Lasseter, O'Dell, Person, VanDuren ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Parks" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [NJESSEX] Holy Sepulcher > Hi Rita, > > I don't know what list you are looking at but I do know that the older > sections are listed by the path that they are located on. Each path is > named after a saint. My grandparents are on St. Michael's path, Lot 13. > The remainder of the cemetery is marked off by letters or numbers. I have a > small sketch printed by the cemetery that I can try to scan and send to you > off list if you would like. > > Carol > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:27 PM > Subject: [NJESSEX] Holy Sepulcher > > > Hi, > > I have a puzzle with their listings. The burials go back to 1894 up to 1937 > and include 32 people. We know who some of them are and are still > researching > the others. However, there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason as to > where they are buried. Some are listed in a Grave l, lot 88, Sect. H. > Others are > listed in the grave and lot number and a saints name. Others have neither a > sect. or a saints name. Does this make sense to anyone out there? > > Thank you, > Rita > > > ==== NJESSEX Mailing List ==== > Know the town name but not county? Search: > <http://www.state.nj.us/infobank/locality.htm> > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ______________________________