This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jmyoung365 Surnames: Garrison, Warful, Warfle, Warfell Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2531.2.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: DNA projects do not go by locality--they go by surname and either can test for Y DNA through direct male lines or mtDNA passed from mothers to all their children but only passed along to later generations of females. The Ramapo Mountain people you refer to were of mixed race -- they were not Native American or not entirely Native American. The stories of Indian ancestry and the idea that people hid Native American blood and all that you relate in your message are nearly always false and a result of trying support what can't be supported. Yes, some mixed race people "passed as White" but there has to be evidence to support claims of Native American blood--and thus far in putting documentation to your lineage neither Andrea nor I can find it. Prior to 1880 there was no designation on the Federal censuses for "Indian" -- you were either White, Mulatto, or Black. The listing might be based upon appearance and you will often find Native Americans listed as Mulatto or Black prior to 1880 but seldom White, and after 1880 you will usually find them listed as Indian unless they were of mixed race as some were. Many family stories of Indian blood originated with family members who belonged to the Improved Order of Redmen. There was a "tribe" in Bridgeton--to which my great-grandfather belonged. These were White men who for whatever reason dressed up in Indian garb. Quite often photos of men in Indian headdress and warpaint get handed down in families--based on membership in the IORM. I think in digging around at Ancestry.com I have found the marriage of Joshua GARRISON and his wife Mary--and her maiden name was WARFUL/WARFLE/WARFELL. According to her marriage record she was born in 1818. So that information would give us more to build upon to either prove or disprove the claim of Native American blood. Andrea? Do you have anything on the WARFUL family? Joan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.