This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: doubleDare Surnames: Gray Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2510.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: What time period are these people in? I have a family of Charles Fithian Halsey Gray born 14 May 1816 in South Jersey, and descendants. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Kathleen, I agree about accessing information from that time period. Its hard to know where to look, and you know there is good stuff out there. Thanks for the expanded commentary. Every little bit helps Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Kathleen Felsted" <mkfelsted@gmail.com> To: <njcumber@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [NJCUMBER] Ogden, a Jersey man... Col David Sheppard > H Nancy, > > I believe this Raccoon Creek was in the now West Virginia area - or it could > have been where Pennsylvania is now. No county was mentioned in the book - > but here is a telling statement: "All of the above murders were perpetuated > on or near the Ohio..." as in Ohio River. That was the frontier border in > 1777 when this happened. The Maryland Journal (newspaper of the time?) > reported the various massacres as they were sent items from various people. > > > I quoted the paper just as the author of the book quoted it. No first > names. But I thought it was interesting that he was from NJ. > > The author was relating various things that happened in the various time > periods from 1769-1794. So these are some of the things he discovered in > the Maryland Journal. Of course, he had other sources and they related > other murders, etc. I wish the author had an everyname index of everyone in > the book. Besides the main characters (Wetzels, Zanes, Boones, Cresap, > Kenton, etc.), there are a lot of other names mentioned. > > Gosh, there is obviously so much material out there from that time period, > that we need to be able to access so we can research our people!!! > > Sorry I could not help you more. > > Kathie > > On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 10:32 AM, magsand <magsand@nbn.net> wrote: > > > Hi -Kathleen > > this caught my attention- do you know - Is racoon creek in Md. or the > > Upper > > Ohio Valley? Are both of these sources listed refering to the same > > occurrances? I have many New Jersey Ogdens. We corresponded already on > > the > > Husteds so you might recall that. Any first name available regarding the > > Ogden killed by Indians? > > Thanks > > Nancy Shean > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "M. Kathleen Felsted" <mkfelsted@gmail.com> > > To: <njcumber@rootsweb.com>; <wvharris@rootsweb.com>; <husted@rootsweb.com > > > > > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 8:35 PM > > Subject: [NJCUMBER] Ogden, a Jersey man... Col David Sheppard > > > > > > > Hi There, > > > > > > Quoted in *The Border Ward of the Upper Ohio Valley (1769-1794)* by > > William > > > Hintzen. > > > > > > 1. Here is a brief mention of a man killed in 1777 (The Year of the > > Bloody > > > Sevens) . > > > > > > "An article in the *Maryland Journal* in the spring of 1777 gives only > > an > > > inkling; referring to incidents beginning in mid-April they reported: > > > ....The same day another express arrived who brought an account of a man > > > being found murdered near Wheeling"; *also one Ogden, a Jersey man, was > > > found killed and scalped near the mouth of Racoon Creek...." * (I have > > other > > > relatives who were on that creek = Fulk, Beeler) > > > * * > > > 2. There are several mentions of Col. David Shepherd, William Shepherd > > ,his > > > oldest son, and Shepherd's Fort. > > > > > > Kathie > > > > > > -- > > > M. Kathleen Felsted > > > mkfelsted@gmail.com > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NJCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NJCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > M. Kathleen Felsted > mkfelsted@gmail.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks! ----- Original Message ----- From: <Waltayars@aol.com> To: <njcumber@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [NJCUMBER] Ogden, a Jersey man... Col David Sheppard > I noted your recent emails about Ogden, etc. > Raccoon Creek (near Ohio River) can be found on the map by searching for > Hookstown, PA or the Raccoon Creek State Park in PA on RT 18 above intersection > of RT 168. There is also a nearby KIings Creek Cemetery (very old, with > early Americans buried there). > > Walt Ayars, Summerdale, PA 17093 > > > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

thanks! ----- Original Message ----- From: <Waltayars@aol.com> To: <njcumber@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 9:52 PM Subject: Re: [NJCUMBER] Ogden, a Jersey man... Col David Sheppard > I note there was a Colonel Josiah Ogden of NJ who DIED BEFORE REVOLUTIONARY > WAR. Also a Colonel Aaron Ogden born NJ, served also in 1779 War with > Indians...later > Governor of NJ. > > Walt Ayars > > > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Does your Charles Fithian Halsey Gray have ancestry in Ct. Vt or Maine? Nancy S. ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <NJCUMBER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [NJCUMBER] GRAY family of NJ > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: doubleDare > Surnames: Gray > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties. cumberland/2510.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > What time period are these people in? > > I have a family of Charles Fithian Halsey Gray born 14 May 1816 in South Jersey, and descendants. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Walt, Thanks for the information. I think that there were few families who llived in the area in that time period that did not have some family members either killed or taken captives by the Indians. The freedom to have land was a pretty strong pull! Kathie On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 11:13 PM, <Waltayars@aol.com> wrote: > I noted your recent emails about Ogden, etc. > Raccoon Creek (near Ohio River) can be found on the map by searching for > Hookstown, PA or the Raccoon Creek State Park in PA on RT 18 above > intersection > of RT 168. There is also a nearby KIings Creek Cemetery (very old, with > early Americans buried there). > > Walt Ayars, Summerdale, PA 17093 > > > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- M. Kathleen Felsted mkfelsted@gmail.com

I note there was a Colonel Josiah Ogden of NJ who DIED BEFORE REVOLUTIONARY WAR. Also a Colonel Aaron Ogden born NJ, served also in 1779 War with Indians...later Governor of NJ. Walt Ayars **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

I noted your recent emails about Ogden, etc. Raccoon Creek (near Ohio River) can be found on the map by searching for Hookstown, PA or the Raccoon Creek State Park in PA on RT 18 above intersection of RT 168. There is also a nearby KIings Creek Cemetery (very old, with early Americans buried there). Walt Ayars, Summerdale, PA 17093 **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

What time period are these people in? I have a family of Charles Fithian Halsey Gray born 14 May 1816 and descendants. Dave BatesNJ Dare-Sheppard Family Historian > From: njcumber-request@rootsweb.com> Subject: NJCUMBER Digest, Vol 3, Issue 47> To: njcumber@rootsweb.com> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:01:01 -0600> > > > Today's Topics:> > 1. GRAY family of NJ (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:25:39 -0000> From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>> Subject: [NJCUMBER] GRAY family of NJ> To: <NJCUMBER-L@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <1205612740.218649@rootsweb.com>> Content-Type: text/plain;> > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.> > Author: LeezilAnne1> Surnames: > Classification: queries> > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2510/mb.ashx> > Message Board Post:> > Hi. I ma looking for information on the GRAY family of the Bridgeton area. Parents: Thomas and Anna (nee Rapp)Gray. Children: John J., Anna Mary (Mrs. Herman Stadler), Thomas, Louis, Teresa (Tressa) and Carl. They had also lived in PA for a short time. Any help appreciated.> > Important Note:> The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.> > > > > > ------------------------------> > To contact the NJCUMBER list administrator, send an email to> NJCUMBER-admin@rootsweb.com.> > To post a message to the NJCUMBER mailing list, send an email to NJCUMBER@rootsweb.com.> > __________________________________________________________> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the> email with no additional text.> > > End of NJCUMBER Digest, Vol 3, Issue 47> ***************************************

H Nancy, I believe this Raccoon Creek was in the now West Virginia area - or it could have been where Pennsylvania is now. No county was mentioned in the book - but here is a telling statement: "All of the above murders were perpetuated on or near the Ohio..." as in Ohio River. That was the frontier border in 1777 when this happened. The Maryland Journal (newspaper of the time?) reported the various massacres as they were sent items from various people. I quoted the paper just as the author of the book quoted it. No first names. But I thought it was interesting that he was from NJ. The author was relating various things that happened in the various time periods from 1769-1794. So these are some of the things he discovered in the Maryland Journal. Of course, he had other sources and they related other murders, etc. I wish the author had an everyname index of everyone in the book. Besides the main characters (Wetzels, Zanes, Boones, Cresap, Kenton, etc.), there are a lot of other names mentioned. Gosh, there is obviously so much material out there from that time period, that we need to be able to access so we can research our people!!! Sorry I could not help you more. Kathie On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 10:32 AM, magsand <magsand@nbn.net> wrote: > Hi -Kathleen > this caught my attention- do you know - Is racoon creek in Md. or the > Upper > Ohio Valley? Are both of these sources listed refering to the same > occurrances? I have many New Jersey Ogdens. We corresponded already on > the > Husteds so you might recall that. Any first name available regarding the > Ogden killed by Indians? > Thanks > Nancy Shean > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "M. Kathleen Felsted" <mkfelsted@gmail.com> > To: <njcumber@rootsweb.com>; <wvharris@rootsweb.com>; <husted@rootsweb.com > > > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 8:35 PM > Subject: [NJCUMBER] Ogden, a Jersey man... Col David Sheppard > > > > Hi There, > > > > Quoted in *The Border Ward of the Upper Ohio Valley (1769-1794)* by > William > > Hintzen. > > > > 1. Here is a brief mention of a man killed in 1777 (The Year of the > Bloody > > Sevens) . > > > > "An article in the *Maryland Journal* in the spring of 1777 gives only > an > > inkling; referring to incidents beginning in mid-April they reported: > > ....The same day another express arrived who brought an account of a man > > being found murdered near Wheeling"; *also one Ogden, a Jersey man, was > > found killed and scalped near the mouth of Racoon Creek...." * (I have > other > > relatives who were on that creek = Fulk, Beeler) > > * * > > 2. There are several mentions of Col. David Shepherd, William Shepherd > ,his > > oldest son, and Shepherd's Fort. > > > > Kathie > > > > -- > > M. Kathleen Felsted > > mkfelsted@gmail.com > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- M. Kathleen Felsted mkfelsted@gmail.com

On Mar 16, 2008, at 10:32 AM, magsand wrote: > Is racoon creek in Md. or the Upper > Ohio Valley? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raccoon_Creek_(New_Jersey) Carol T.

Hi -Kathleen this caught my attention- do you know - Is racoon creek in Md. or the Upper Ohio Valley? Are both of these sources listed refering to the same occurrances? I have many New Jersey Ogdens. We corresponded already on the Husteds so you might recall that. Any first name available regarding the Ogden killed by Indians? Thanks Nancy Shean ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Kathleen Felsted" <mkfelsted@gmail.com> To: <njcumber@rootsweb.com>; <wvharris@rootsweb.com>; <husted@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 8:35 PM Subject: [NJCUMBER] Ogden, a Jersey man... Col David Sheppard > Hi There, > > Quoted in *The Border Ward of the Upper Ohio Valley (1769-1794)* by William > Hintzen. > > 1. Here is a brief mention of a man killed in 1777 (The Year of the Bloody > Sevens) . > > "An article in the *Maryland Journal* in the spring of 1777 gives only an > inkling; referring to incidents beginning in mid-April they reported: > ....The same day another express arrived who brought an account of a man > being found murdered near Wheeling"; *also one Ogden, a Jersey man, was > found killed and scalped near the mouth of Racoon Creek...." * (I have other > relatives who were on that creek = Fulk, Beeler) > * * > 2. There are several mentions of Col. David Shepherd, William Shepherd ,his > oldest son, and Shepherd's Fort. > > Kathie > > -- > M. Kathleen Felsted > mkfelsted@gmail.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LeezilAnne1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2510/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi. I ma looking for information on the GRAY family of the Bridgeton area. Parents: Thomas and Anna (nee Rapp)Gray. Children: John J., Anna Mary (Mrs. Herman Stadler), Thomas, Louis, Teresa (Tressa) and Carl. They had also lived in PA for a short time. Any help appreciated. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DelawareDolores Surnames: Nesi Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2509/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Kim posted this on the Atlantic List, but I'm sharing it with NJCUMBER, since it may possibly involve a Vineland Nesi family. I've posted some ideas on the Press website (cut and paste the link below) but don't know how many days they keep the link open. Be sure to not mention living people on line, only to the police phone number given in the article. -- D. > --- Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:16:51 -0700> From: tiggerkim@verizon.net> To: njatlant@rootsweb.com> Subject: [NJATLANT] found tombstone > > in today's press there is a story of a tombstone that was found in the middle of the street in atlantic city on november 19, 2007. the name and dates are as follows: jeralyn naomi nesi 1943-1947. if you know this family please call atlantic city's detective bureau at (609) 347-5766. if you would like to read the story, here is the link: http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/186/story/105571.html>; > kim Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Would any of your Smith lines in Cumberland New Jersey connect to the Smith's in Lancaster County Pa? I have ancestors (Smith & Livingston) in both Cumberland, NJ and Lancaster, Pa. ca. 1750's Best Regards, Ed> From: lanew1@wesnet.com> To: njcumber@rootsweb.com> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 03:51:25 -0400> Subject: [NJCUMBER] Smiths of Salem and Cumberland Co.> > Hello Walt > > I know we have exchanged information in the past and would like to know if you had any additional information which may connect our SMITH and BOWEN lines. My Abner Smith ended up in Warren Co. , Ohio in 1805 Abners daughter Jemima married John Bowen in Warren Co. , Ohio and ended up in Richland Co. , IL with a large family. .> > Thanks > John > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008

Hello Walt I know we have exchanged information in the past and would like to know if you had any additional information which may connect our SMITH and BOWEN lines. My Abner Smith ended up in Warren Co. , Ohio in 1805 Abners daughter Jemima married John Bowen in Warren Co. , Ohio and ended up in Richland Co. , IL with a large family. . Thanks John

Hi Walt, And when did your Faris line come from NJ to VA? I am thinking that perhaps my line came down about 1765-1770 - or about the time that the VA lands opened? (Only I wish I really knew they were in NJ...) Weren't the Davis' SDB? I don't think my group of Husted's were. Ayres is a common Northern Baltimore County name (where I live). Kathie On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 10:16 PM, <Waltayars@aol.com> wrote: > I saw your email and thought I would add another surname to the list of > Clark County persons - AYARS (AYRES was common in Clark Co). My Ayars > database > shows also: Ferris, Babcock, McFarland, Smith, Furrow, Maxson, Wells, > Davis, > Priest, Bowen, Richison....all at Clark with the Ayars. The Ayars and > most of > the spouses were also SDBs from southern NJ. > > Walt Ayars, Summerdale, PA > > > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- M. Kathleen Felsted mkfelsted@gmail.com

I saw your email and thought I would add another surname to the list of Clark County persons - AYARS (AYRES was common in Clark Co). My Ayars database shows also: Ferris, Babcock, McFarland, Smith, Furrow, Maxson, Wells, Davis, Priest, Bowen, Richison....all at Clark with the Ayars. The Ayars and most of the spouses were also SDBs from southern NJ. Walt Ayars, Summerdale, PA **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: McArtogo2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/1081.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Lots of links here (click to page and scroll down) http://sciway3.net/clark/freemoors/roma.html Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: buckbingham Surnames: Hackett, Rose, Weldon, Hollingshead, Corson, Goff Classification: deed Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/636.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hacketeers, This may help: Cumberland County, NJ, Deeds 37:45 1819 Oct 9 [Capt.] James Hollingshead sold to William Hackett a 2 acre 90 perch lot in Ewings Neck near the intersection of and bounding on Hands Mill Road and Delsea Drive, Rt 47 for $12.30. Witnesses: Jeremiah Weldon and Sosthenes Goff ----------------- Cumberland County, NJ, Deeds 64: 78 1837 Sep 2 Amariah F. Rose & "Elonor" his wife sold the lot mentioned above to Joshua Corson [Jr] for $110. Witness Joel S. Robinson [JP] "William Hackett was seized of at the time of his death and was conveyed to the aforesaid Amariah F. Rose by Henry Hampton, James Ward, and Joel S. Robinson, commisioners..." 1835 subject to widow's dower. "Eleanor Rose was the widow of William Hacket Dec'd..." She conveys her right of dower. ------------------- I believe marriage records show that William Hackett married Eleanor Polhemus. Hackett must have built a house on the lot which was reflected in the huge appreciation of value. Jeremiah Weldon also bought part of the Hollingshead survey and held other nearby land. Glenn Bingham Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.