This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jmyoung365 Surnames: Garrison, Taylor, Hepner Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2531.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Andrea- What is your evidence that Elizabeth GARRISON's father's name is Joshua? I just did a check of census records (primarily because these claims of Indian ancestry fascinate me and most turn out to be mythical). What I found consistently on the census records is the parents being John C. and Mary GARRISON and daughter Elizabeth being born about 1840. This age for Elizabeth is supported by later census records in which she appears with her husband William H. TAYLOR. In every instance Elizabeth (and all other family members) are listed as White. I feel very certain there is no Indian connection on the GARRISON side here...and I don't think there is on the mother's side. I found the marriage of John GARRISON to Mary HEPNER on 5 Oct. 1839. They appear to be Elizabeth's parents and Mary is also White. She appears to be the daughter of Jacob HEPNER of Deerfield based on the 1830 census for Deerfield, Cumberland County. The household has a daughter the right age to be Mary HEPNER. Joan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Many families have oral history that can't be proven. I've also heard and read of a GARRISON story about a Swedish Princess who was shipwrecked and rescued by a GARRISON hunter. If the stories have any merit there would need to be some sort of evidence to support it. Show us the evidence. It reminds me of the story that went unchallenged for a hundred years in the HAINES family of Burlington County that Richard HAINES' wife Mary CARLILE was a Native American who was taken in by an English family and taught to read and write. The story was very elaborate and was spread from generation to generation until about 10 years when the evidence was found to prove that Mary CARLILE was of French huguenot descent explaining her dark eyes and hair that had been rumored to be Indian. Joan In a message dated 7/24/2008 11:17:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, july37@cox.net writes: I'm a Garrison descendant & the same oral history Mrs Hager presents has been in my family. **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jiggilypuffs Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2531.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I know who's in that picture and they're not Garrisons. They're ladies attending the boarding school Ivy Hall, most are not from Bridgeton Good luck with the Garrison thing.. there are tons of them:) -andrea Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Parkerincorporat Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2531.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, Do you have names to go with that picture?Hey when I prove a Garrison has native american blood line will I get a coookie? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Parkerincorporat Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2531.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, Do you have names to go with that picture?Hey when I prove a Garrison has native american blood line will I get a coookie? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jiggilypuffs Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/1197.1.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have Hosea R. Garton Sr. born 11 Feb 1806 died 13 Apr 1875. Married Catharine Souder 17 Apr 1843, she was the widow of David Carll. His second wife was Caroline Williams whom he married 8 Nov 1860. They had one son Hosea R. Garton Jr. born 22 Apr 1864. Caroline's first husband was Daniel Taylor, Hosea was her 2nd, and Zephaniah Clark was her third. She died 7 May 1901. Her parents were Benjamin Williams and Elizabeth. Her first husband Daniel Taylor died 5 Feb 1856. She had a son William born 1846. Does that help? :) -andrea Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lsemusic Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2531.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The surname Garrison is about as Native American as the Indian Maiden in this picture taken in Bridgeton in 1913. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f194/lsemusic/b1913.jpg LSE Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jiggilypuffs Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2531.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Elizabeth L. Garrison married William Taylor on 10 Jan 1866 in Downe, Cumberland, NJ. She was the daughter of Joshua Garrison and Mary. His father was John, father David, father Garret Garrison Jr., etc... so I doubt she was an Indian maiden on her paternal side.. I cannot be certain on her maternal side. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

"If the stories have any merit there would need to be some sort of evidence to support it. Show us the evidence." I agree with you that oral history needs some evidence to prove or disprove it. It's great that we now have DNA testing that can provide scientific evidence on ancient origins. Sara ----- Original Message ----- From: <JYoung6180@aol.com> To: <njcumber@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [NJCUMBER] Elizabeth Garrison Indian Maiden m.WilliamHenryTaylor Bridget... > Many families have oral history that can't be proven. I've also heard and > read of a GARRISON story about a Swedish Princess who was shipwrecked and > rescued by a GARRISON hunter. If the stories have any merit there would > need to be > some sort of evidence to support it. Show us the evidence. > > It reminds me of the story that went unchallenged for a hundred years in > the > HAINES family of Burlington County that Richard HAINES' wife Mary CARLILE > was a Native American who was taken in by an English family and taught to > read > and write. The story was very elaborate and was spread from generation to > generation until about 10 years when the evidence was found to prove that > Mary > CARLILE was of French huguenot descent explaining her dark eyes and hair > that > had been rumored to be Indian. > > Joan > > > In a message dated 7/24/2008 11:17:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > july37@cox.net writes: > > I'm a Garrison > descendant & the same oral history Mrs Hager presents has been in my > family. > > > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Laura Gaskill Hager's well documented book "Pierre Cresson The Huguenot & Some of His Decedents" (Cresson, Demarest, De la Plain, Garrison) gives the early history of the Garrison family. Mrs. Hager has a tintype of Joshua Garrison & Mary Warful Garrison. She describes Joshua as a "tall lean, good looking man." & Mary as having "strong features with straight dark hair." She gives their family history along with some oral family history. Mary E. Warful was born July 1, 1817 & died Nov. 2, 1891 at Millville, NJ. Mary Warful Garrison was the daughter of John Warful & Eleanor Lore-Blizzard. Mary's mother Eleanor was a Lore but took the name of her step-father Blizzard after her father Isaac Lore died. Mrs. Hager also speaks of the oral history regarding the Garrison Native American blood. I'm a Garrison descendant & the same oral history Mrs Hager presents has been in my family. It has never been proved to my knowledge but the oral history states the Native American blood came into the Garrison line of Turkey Point from the Simpkins family who were of Lenni Lenape descent. I hope this adds something to your previous discussions. I recommend Mrs. Hager's book as a reliable source for the Garrison family researchers. Sara ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <NJCUMBER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [NJCUMBER] Elizabeth Garrison Indian Maiden m.William HenryTaylor Bridgeton 1866 > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: jmyoung365 > Surnames: Garrison, Warful, Warfle, Warfell > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2531.2.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > DNA projects do not go by locality--they go by surname and either can test > for Y DNA through direct male lines or mtDNA passed from mothers to all > their children but only passed along to later generations of females. > > The Ramapo Mountain people you refer to were of mixed race -- they were > not Native American or not entirely Native American. > > The stories of Indian ancestry and the idea that people hid Native > American blood and all that you relate in your message are nearly always > false and a result of trying support what can't be supported. Yes, some > mixed race people "passed as White" but there has to be evidence to > support claims of Native American blood--and thus far in putting > documentation to your lineage neither Andrea nor I can find it. > > Prior to 1880 there was no designation on the Federal censuses for > "Indian" -- you were either White, Mulatto, or Black. The listing might be > based upon appearance and you will often find Native Americans listed as > Mulatto or Black prior to 1880 but seldom White, and after 1880 you will > usually find them listed as Indian unless they were of mixed race as some > were. > > Many family stories of Indian blood originated with family members who > belonged to the Improved Order of Redmen. There was a "tribe" in > Bridgeton--to which my great-grandfather belonged. These were White men > who for whatever reason dressed up in Indian garb. Quite often photos of > men in Indian headdress and warpaint get handed down in families--based on > membership in the IORM. > > I think in digging around at Ancestry.com I have found the marriage of > Joshua GARRISON and his wife Mary--and her maiden name was > WARFUL/WARFLE/WARFELL. According to her marriage record she was born in > 1818. So that information would give us more to build upon to either prove > or disprove the claim of Native American blood. > > Andrea? Do you have anything on the WARFUL family? > > Joan > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Parkerincorporat Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/529.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello.......I too am trying to get info on your Henderson family.Note I once read from a sorta diary said Taylors,Cheesman and Hendersons moved to Cape May County in early 1900.I am seeking the correct info on the parentage of Taylor women who married a Cheesman, her sister who married a Henderson and one sister who married a Law there where at least 10 cildren.I do know that the Bible was once in the possesion of a Rachel in Florida.She apparently collected and saved eveything and had trails thru her home to get around all the family stuff she saved.It was told to me when she passed(70's)her long time friend and companion who shared her home recieved everything and no one knows what happened to her or the family bible.My quest to even find out her name became useless.If anyone would know her name that would help too. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Parkerincorporat Surnames: Taylor,Williams,Elizabeth Garrison,Anna Madden,Elizabeth Lafferty Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2531/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello.....This came out of a hand written old diary.William Henry Taylor married Indian maiden Elizabeth Garrison Bridgeton ,N.J. 1866.I am looking for any info other then that statement........also would like to hear any rumors or lores that may lead me to a new clue.Thank you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Parkerincorporat Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/1197.1.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Oh shoot lol...............well are you able to see if one of your Hosea's was married to a Catherine /Caroline? I know it is very hard to know if person where married more then once.It's great they are all Cumberland county so I know for sure one of your Hosea's are mine.This will become more complicated once we do figure out which Hosea it is when I go to try and figure out the children because I know she had 10 with my Taylor.I do not know at this point if she had more with Garton or which ones might really be Gartons or maybe adopted my Garton and or sent out to other homes. Thank you for your time and help. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jiggilypuffs Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/1197.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: All of them were born in Cumberland Co, NJ :) -andrea Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Parkerincorporat Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/1197.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I wish I had a date.Do your 5 Hosea Garton's all have NJ connection? His wife would have been my gr.gr.gr. gr..I tried some years back to track them butno one at the time heard of that name Garton.So trying to even track which if Any info you can share..... I may be able to figure out.Thank you so much for giving me hope,possible clues and for responding. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

My usual ebay scouting yielded this.. Adrian Ogden was born 10 Sep 1810 to Col. James Ogden and Ruth (Ogden) Ogden. He married Eleanor Burroughs and had at least 8 children. The letter seems to be from 1828 when he was at Princeton. http://cgi.ebay.com/GOOD-1828-LETTER-FROM-UNHAPPY-STUDENT-AT-PRINCETON-NJ_W0QQitemZ110273485910QQihZ001QQcategoryZ156489QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Cumberland County Genealogists can order a 2 CD set of high resolution photographs of the original records of the Old Cohansey Baptist Church at Roadstown! Original Sexton's book, Pastor's book, and more! All proceeds go to the church's historical committee. $15 (includes shipping) - email me at final.offer@gmail.com to order today! **$901 donated to the church to date**

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Littleford2007 Surnames: Montague Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2530/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking to find a date of death for Kathyrn or Catherine Montague, born Feb. 10, 1911 in PA. We think she died in Vineland, New Jersey aft. 1963 but don't know when?? Father's Name: Patrick Montague Mother's Name: Catherine Meehan Montague Any help would be much appreciated :) Thank You! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jiggilypuffs Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/1197.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Do you have a date on Hosea? I have 5 Hosea Gartons in my database :) thanks! -andrea Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I just saw this in the Bridgeton News. Contract awarded for Cumberland County records storage update by South Jersey News Online Wednesday July 23, 2008, 8:43 AM By MATT DUNN mdunn@sjnewsco.com HOPEWELL TWP. -- Cumberland County freeholders awarded a contract earlier this month to Eagle Construction Service Inc. to provide renovations to the county records storage facility. The storage facility, a two-story brick building located next to the county juvenile detention center on Sunnyslope Drive, is being converted to hold the county's vast archive of records. In the future, it may store municipal records as well. "Right now, records are being stored all over," County Administrator Ken MeCouch said on Tuesday. "We're looking to consolidate them into one location. When the project's finished, we'll be moving our records management office out there." Renovations to the building began last year through a $1 million Public Archives and Records Infrastructure Support (PARIS) grant. Already, boxes of old vital statistics records and election records have been stored at the facility. The former boiler room needs much work before the rest of the county's records can be transferred there, according to MeCouch. "It needs some electrical work, window renovations, plumbing and HVAC," MeCouch said. Eagle Construction Services Inc., a Burlington-based construction firm, was awarded a $516,514 contract to complete the work. -- Cumberland County Genealogists can order a 2 CD set of high resolution photographs of the original records of the Old Cohansey Baptist Church at Roadstown! Original Sexton's book, Pastor's book, and more! All proceeds go to the church's historical committee. $15 (includes shipping) - email me at final.offer@gmail.com to order today! **$901 donated to the church to date**

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Parkerincorporat Surnames: Taylor,Williams,Garrison,Madden,Lafferty Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2479.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, Do you have any info on your Caroline Taylor?Thank you Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.