Could the name Acneas be Ananias? The following is from the Charles E. Sheppard papers GARRISON family. Annias Garrison 1752-1836 Buried at Deerfield Presbyterian, wife Phebe Tullis. Lived near Watson's Corner. Son John 1777-1822, wife Edith Son William 1807, wife Mary Lawrence Ananias 1839 married Mary in 1865? >From the Bible record of Joshua & Mary Warful Garrison & other documentation they didn't have a son Acneas or Ananias. I hope the Bible record inforamtion & Mr Sheppard's research will add something along with the other Garrison researchers postings to assist with your Acneas Garrison search. Sara Robbins Hoffman ----- Original Message ----- From: <JohnRB@aol.com> To: <njcumber@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:43 PM Subject: [NJCUMBER] Garrisons > Andrea, > > I have a Acneas Garison, (no info) married to Eliza Kyte, March 1850. > that had a daughter Hanna Garrison born 13 aug 1856, d 13 Jun 1930. > Hanna > married Phillip M Turpin. their daughter was Lillian May Turpin 13 Apr > 1887. > (she is my grandmother) These are the only ones I have at this time > > All of these are from the Millville/Vineland area in Cumberland > County, NJ. > > Are they any relation to the Garrisons , (John C., Joshua and Elizabeth) > That you referred to. > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is an interesting post in the list archives of the GARRISON list: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/garrison/2006-01/1136917095 There has been some DNA testing done on various lines of GARRISONs -- so far stories of Indian descent in a couple lines but nothing showing up in the DNA testing to date which is very spotty. Joan **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

Me again. Enos Garrison married Ann Elizabeth Kite or Kete. Shes in the 1860 census as Ann 1860 United States Federal Census about Enos Garrison Name: Enos Garrison Age in 1860: 25 Birth Year: abt 1835 Birthplace: New Jersey Home in 1860: Pittsgrove, Salem, New Jersey Enos Garrison 25 Anna Elizabeth Garrison 23 Hannah Garrison 2 Ablert Garrison 2.12 there's also another record for a Hannah Garrison, daughter of Enos and Eliza born 26 JUL 1857 Pittsgrove Twp, Salem, New Jersey, on familysearch.org -andrea

Andrea, I have a Acneas Garison, (no info) married to Eliza Kyte, March 1850. that had a daughter Hanna Garrison born 13 aug 1856, d 13 Jun 1930. Hanna married Phillip M Turpin. their daughter was Lillian May Turpin 13 Apr 1887. (she is my grandmother) These are the only ones I have at this time All of these are from the Millville/Vineland area in Cumberland County, NJ. Are they any relation to the Garrisons , (John C., Joshua and Elizabeth) That you referred to. **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

I just checked something else. I found that Hannah Garrison was born 13 AUG 1857 Clayton Twp, Gloucester, New Jersey to Enos Garrison and Eliza. -andrea On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:43 PM, <JohnRB@aol.com> wrote: > Andrea, > > I have a Acneas Garison, (no info) married to Eliza Kyte, March 1850. > that had a daughter Hanna Garrison born 13 aug 1856, d 13 Jun 1930. Hanna > married Phillip M Turpin. their daughter was Lillian May Turpin 13 Apr 1887. > (she is my grandmother) These are the only ones I have at this time > > All of these are from the Millville/Vineland area in Cumberland > County, NJ. > > Are they any relation to the Garrisons , (John C., Joshua and Elizabeth) > That you referred to. > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Cumberland County Genealogists can order a 2 CD set of high resolution photographs of the original records of the Old Cohansey Baptist Church at Roadstown! Original Sexton's book, Pastor's book, and more! All proceeds go to the church's historical committee. $15 (includes shipping) - email me at final.offer@gmail.com to order today! **$901 donated to the church to date**

Hi. I don't know if they're related. I haven't done much research on the Garrison line except when they run into my line(s). I have a feeling that his name may have been Ananias Garrison. I haven't found a marriage record for them on familysearch.org Her last name may have been Kite as there was a Kite family in Cumberland County around that time. If you want to email me off-list, we can discuss it further. -andrea On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:43 PM, <JohnRB@aol.com> wrote: > Andrea, > > I have a Acneas Garison, (no info) married to Eliza Kyte, March 1850. > that had a daughter Hanna Garrison born 13 aug 1856, d 13 Jun 1930. Hanna > married Phillip M Turpin. their daughter was Lillian May Turpin 13 Apr 1887. > (she is my grandmother) These are the only ones I have at this time > > All of these are from the Millville/Vineland area in Cumberland > County, NJ. > > Are they any relation to the Garrisons , (John C., Joshua and Elizabeth) > That you referred to. > > > -- Cumberland County Genealogists can order a 2 CD set of high resolution photographs of the original records of the Old Cohansey Baptist Church at Roadstown! Original Sexton's book, Pastor's book, and more! All proceeds go to the church's historical committee. $15 (includes shipping) - email me at final.offer@gmail.com to order today! **$901 donated to the church to date**

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jmyoung365 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2531.3.1.1.1.1.1.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for posting this link. I have seen this book before and it is a very good resource with documentation as to which Indians were in NJ and when and which were not. It is better documented than the website I previously provided the link for. While there are plenty of people with NJ ancestors who they can claim (and sometimes document) were Native Americans, unless there were very unusual circumstances the NA ancestry can be tied to some branch of the Delaware Indians (including the Nanticoke and Lenni-Lenape). When people start claiming family stories (lore) about Indian "Princesses" or Cherokees or Souix or Choctaw, etc. intermarrying with their ancestors in NJ and stating that they "claimed" to be White because of fear of persecution--that usually sends up a red flag that it is probably myth that cannot be proven and the facts often fly in the face of history. I've researched many of these cases and the person claiming the long-standing story of Indian heritage ALWAYS is absolutely certain they have Indian blood--I researched one case where I was able to conclusively prove that BOTH great-grandparents on the supposedly Indian side were born in Germany and the supposedly Indian surname was a translation of their German name. This and other similar cases have installed a skepticism in me and that is the reason for my "show me the evidence" attitude. Granted, not all cases of legitimate Indian ancestry can be "proven" but they have to be able to stand the test of POSSIBILITY and PLAUSIBILITY. Joan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: GDPreston1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2531.3.1.1.1.1.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Here is another intersting book: http://books.google.com/books?id=rgETAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=Indians New Jersey&lr=&as_brr=1#PPA2,M1 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jmyoung365 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2531.2.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Juanita- Let me try to outline where I'm coming from thus far (again I repeat I'm not out to attack you or arbitrarily dismiss your family stories and beliefs in your heritage). 1) I am well aware of the people called Blackfoot in DE at a very early date. I mentioned them earlier in this thread. Perhaps with some research you can connect your ancestors to them. There was a previously thread some time ago on the NJCUMBER mailing list with someone who had family stories of Blackfoot ancestry in Cumberland County, NJ. I was able to establish through census records that the ancestor in question came from DE--the very area of the people called Blackfoot there--so in her case although I didn't find specific proof--there was a distinct possiblity the story COULD be true--her people were in the right place and time to have intermarried with this Indian group called Blackfoot. 2) the people called Blackfoot in DE were NOT connected in any way to the tribe in the Western US and Canada known as Blackfoot. Only the name they were called by is the same. If you read the webpage I sent you the link to thoroughly you will see that is what is written there and it is also what I learned when I previously researched them. 3) The DE people commonly called Blackfoot were actually part of the Nanticoke / Lenni-Lenape people. 4) This is the first time you have mentioned Shawnee involving YOUR ancestors. So the subject of the Shawnee and where they lived and what families they may have interacted with and intermarried with has never been discussed previously in this thread. At an early time (as the website points out) the Shawnee were in this area for a time. 5) Regarding the Carlile Indian School. I can't tell you how many family Indian Maiden stories that can't be verified end up being attritbuted to the Carlisle Indian School. The fact is that the school was started in 1879 and only lasted 30 years. So if an Indian from the Western US or elsewhere who came East because of the school married one of your ancestors that would not have possibly happened prior to 1879 and I think we already have a pretty good fix on who and where your ancestors were after that time. Also, the school was located in Cumberland County, PA, and not Cumberland County, NJ. What I'm trying to do here is place Native American history on one side, and your family history research (including the family stories to some extent) on the other side and have you examine them objectively to see if the history we can prove and the lineage you can document can lead you to learning whether or not the family stories are true or not--the fact is many are mythical, some can't be proven one way or the other, and others are rooted in provable facts. But it takes a lot of objectivity to sort the one from the other. If the history shows it is possible for the Lenni-Lenape or DE Blackfoot branch to have intermarried with your ancestors--that alone by itself doesn't prove they did. It only proves there is the possibility. Your family history research is what will either establish or disprove that. Joan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Parkerincorporat Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2531.2.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: P.S. Pearl also had story in her book about that Sweedish Princes lmao.Says becuase of her looks and lack of english she was passed off by the family as an Indian maiden .Roflmao yet again.Said someone was after her.Thats the only thing I heard of but now I will try to find some storys from others about her lol. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Parkerincorporat Surnames: Garrison/Taylor/Williams/Madden/Lafferty Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2531.2.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Joan..........I thank you again and I do wish to learn but I wish to learn something new.In refrence to Sioux Blackfoot,Lenapi with my Garrison/Taylor line I had forgotten one more Shawnee.Does that have your feathers ruffled even more?You stated"It would not be in the realm of probrability or even possibility" as if it were fact.I informed you that there was a census that listed Sioux in Jersey.You then give me a link to www.mitsawokett.com with some comment.You also send me in another post"If you wish to learn about the Sioux" with a link to www.sioux~indians.com also with an added comment"be sure to read section section on Sioux history".You stated"They were never anywhere near NJ"A few of your other comments "Always was and is in Montana and Western Canada"."Geographically unless your ancestors where Traders or Indian agents who traveled to these areas they would not have contact with these tribes let alone marry into them","In EITHER case.....regardless of which couple! are her parents.....she is still listed as white". I now give you absolute documented proof.That not only were the comments that you presented as fact actually fiction but you yourself gave me the documentation.If you go to www.mitsawokett.com the link that you sent me and go to"Blackfoot Indians",Blackfoot Town/Dagsboro DE by Dick Carter,Chairman of the Delaware heritage commision you will find documented proof that not only were there and still are Sioux in and from the area but shows you why most natives where listed white,mallato or black ,even freman of color.If you read the article all the way through to completion you will find that Sioux and Shawnee where push from the east to the west by the whites. In refrence to the second link you sent me www.sioux~indians.com with your comment.I scrolled down the front page to Titonwan/Teton division(Lakota) clicked on Blackfoot Sioux then clicked on"Where did the Blackfoot Sioux live in the 1700 and 1800's?I would suggest you read that answer.In reading the two items I think you will find that your facts are absolutley untrue as for the Sioux.You sent me documentation to prove your own comments wrong and your suggestions well I wil not go there. In refrence to me talking about native children being stolen and sent to Indian schools never to see thier parents again or to know who they really are and that one of those schools where very close.The name of that school is Carlisle School of Pennsylvania. I also told you about a NJ census that list's Sioux.That census is the 1910 Hamilton Township,Mercer County.There you will find 3 pages of full blooded Sioux.I know a little story told to me about that group but I care not to repeat it. I once again go to statements from the old lost diary.Joan this will really flip your wig.Hold on to your britches.Pearl stated that they were blood line of Pocahontas and also Sitting Bull.ROFLMAO Don't die on me women.Lol hehehe Juanita Taylor Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello out there Could Parkerincorporat contact me please, [tedrvb@bellsouth.net] you maybe able to help me with some information on GARRISON and some others or point me in the right direction. Thank you until we talk again, peace be with you and yours. Theodore R. VonBartheld - in Alabama -----Original Message----- From: njcumber-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:njcumber-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:32 PM To: NJCUMBER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NJCUMBER]**** Elizabeth GARRISON (Indian Maiden) m. - William HenryTaylor = Bridgeton, NJ 1866 Author: Parkerincorporat http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties. cumberland/2531.2.1.1.1.2.1.2/mb.ashx There are some bieng done by locality in Virginia, Delaware and I am almost sure one is going on in North Jersey in relation to missing pioneers when supply ship came back all those left behind where gone. My friend Elizabeth who is 1/2 Native American, 1/4 black, 1/4 white has extensive documentation of her native american history and is listed as white and so are all her family going back many generations. To look at Elizabeth you immediatly know she is not white nor in any pictures would I call any of her family white going back 5 generations. Since my trunk full of genealogy was lost to the hurricans some years back I can not prove anything only going by a bad memory but I do remember finding Mary on a Indian Roll. Which one of many would be a guess. Natives and blacks were not permitted to own land and if you find time you will find one of the many schools that white christians would take the "heathen" Indian children away to right in Penns. Many of those children suffered great horrors. In this diary note book belonging to some one from my Taylor line named Pearl she wrote Taylor and Garrisons Indian. there were three kinds written but I only remember Blackfoot Souix, Lenape. Scribled on the side was the words yotanka and yakota I could never find out what they were.

Perhaps the words are Lotanka (Sitting Bull) and Lakota (Leni-Lenape, NJ).? Good luck with this interesting mystery.? Joan F. .... there were three kinds written but I only remember Blackfoot Souix, Lenape.Scribled on the side was the words yotanka and yakota I could never find out what they were. -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: NJCUMBER-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:32 am Subject: Re: [NJCUMBER] Elizabeth Garrison Indian Maiden m.William Henry Taylor Bridgeton 1866 This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Parkerincorporat Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2531.2.1.1.1.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There are some bieng done by locality in Virginia,Delaware and I am almost sure one is going on in North Jersey in relation to missing pioneers when supply ship came back all those left behind where gone.My friend Elizabeth who is 1/2 Native American, 1/4 black, 1/4 white has extensive documentation of her native american history and is listed as white and so are all her family going back many generations.To look at Elizabeth you immediatly know she is not white nor in any pictures would I call any of her family white going back 5 generations.Since my trunk full of genealogy was lost to the hurricans some years back I can not prove anything only going by a bad memory but I do remember finding Mary on a Indian Roll..... which one of many would be a guess.Natives and blacks were not permitted to own land and if you find time you will find one of the many schools that white christians would take the"heathen" Indian children away to right in Penns..Many of those children suffer! ed great horrors. In this diary note book belonging to some one from my Taylor line named Pearl she wrote Taylor and Garrisons Indian..... there were three kinds written but I only remember Blackfoot Souix, Lenape.Scribled on the side was the words yotanka and yakota I could never find out what they were. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Parkerincorporat Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2531.3.1.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: wow Joan.............They have really added a huge amount on that site now.They even have a new item Indian camps of Salem and Cumberland County. Thanks Again! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Parkerincorporat Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2531.3.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you Joan............. that is a cool site......... I had forgotten about it...........They sure have added an amazing amount of info in the past few years.I am certian my line does not come from that group.I am going to forward that to my friend Elizabeth. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jmyoung365 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2531.2.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Juanita- If you wish to learn about the Souix, see: http://www.sioux-indians.com/ Be sure to read the section on Souix history. They were never anywhere near New Jersey. Joan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Parkerincorporat Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2531.3.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you so very much Sara........We are probrably as Laura would say shirt tail cousin's lol.Does anyone know how much her books are now? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jmyoung365 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2531.3.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Juanita- I'd suggest the following website to you if you wish to search for evidence of a connection to Native American ancestry in South Jersey. http://www.mitsawokett.com/ Joan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Parkerincorporat Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2531.3.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Joan..........I did not say fact.....I said written in an old diary I once had and I believe I mentioned the persons name it belonged to was Pearl.I never said anything about my direct line was fact other then I once found Mary on an Indian roll along with if my memory serves Dorcas Simpkins. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SaraHoffman505 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2531.3.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Laura's address is printed in her book so it is public information. Laura Gaskill Hager 210 Keeley Ave., New Britain, PA 18901-5216. Yes,I believe everyone who knows Laura would agree that she is a wonderful lady & a generous one by sharing her work with other researchers. She has been doing family history for many years along with serving as president of the Bucks County PA Historical Society. I have the highest regard for Laura & the quality of her work. She has compiled quite a number of family histories besides the one I mentioned " Pierre Cresson The Huguenot & Some of His Decedents." Yes, this book has a pink cover. I hope you will be able to connect with her again. Sara Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.