This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jiggilypuffs Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2533.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You're welcome. It might be cheaper to hire someone familiar with research the area than making the trip yourself with the crazy gas prices. I'm also a Bateman and Fithian and have Parvin cousins.. I don't have a Robert Bateman in my database living around that time, but I will have to check with my cousin. -andrea Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Parkerincorporat Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2533.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you much.I was thinking same thing.I will have to dig a little more to find out.I am seriosly thinking of taking trip to NJ.I know the Bateman last name was in my Taylor/Garrison line some children also carried Bateman as middle name along with Parvin.I am thinking Bateman was a nephew. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jiggilypuffs Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2533.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: they are the children of Amos Fithian and Rachel Leake. Joseph Fithian of Woodbury is Dr. Joseph Fithian he was born 27 Jun 1795 in Cedarville and died 8 Jan 1881 in Woodbury. Joel Fithian was born 17 May 1797 Hannah Fithian married Dr. Charles Garrison I'm not sure who Robert Bateman is in reference to this as there weren't any other girls who lived to adulthood. Amos Fithian died 1 Apr 1819 and Rachel Leake Fithian died 6 Sep 1836. Perhaps they were settling it as part of an estate? You could go back in the deed books and find out the rest of the info. -andrea Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Parkerincorporat Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2533/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Article reads: Joel Fithian of Salem,Joseph Fithian of Woodbury,Charles Garrison of Fairton and Robert Bateman advertised the Mill in the tenure of latter,at the head waters of Cedar Creek in Cedarville for sale,also rebuilt sawmill on same stream. Would anyone have information in relation to this article article? How do these person's relate? Did the Mills sell and to whom? Why was it put up? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

My mother was: Elizabeth Anna (RIDGEWAY), born: 1927 in Clayton, NJ 1st Marriage: Theodore Roosevelt VonBartheld (aka) Bartheld, They lived in Vineland, NJ; 2nd Marriage: Robert Lewis GARRISON, He was born: abt. 1916 in Cumberland County, NJ. They married abt 1948 in Millville, NJ I think, lived in Millville, NJ. Robert Lewis GARRISON, died in Germany around 1950-54 it was a non-combating death. I am still trying to get more on him: Birth, Marriage, Death Records and anything else I can find, I have some photos. They had 2 Daughter's: Roberta, in Millville, Cumberland County, NJ (Living) And Georgette GARRISON, Not sure on the date of birth but in Millville, Cumberland County, NJ - She died: in Infancy, I do not the Date but I think it was after Roberta. Georgette's Buried: in Millville, NJ. Robert Lewis GARRISON's Father was: Lewis Doughty GARRISON, Born: 20 Sep 1892 in Millville, NJ; He Died: Jul 1964 in Millville, NJ; SSN: 137-14-0164 Issued in NJ, before 1951. He Married: Gertrude Rose (DIXON) born: 08 Jan 1895 in USA, She Died: May 1979 in Millville, NJ. They had the following children: Herman GARRISON, born: abt 1915 & Robert listed above born: abt 1916, I do not know if their was any more Children. Lewis Doughty GARRISON's father was: His father first name unknown GARRISON, unknown date of birth or where; Died: unknown date or where. He Married: Ella (Last name unknown)born: 1864 USA, died: unknown date or where. They had 2 Children that I know of one was: Lewis Doughty GARRISON, born: 20 Sep 1892 in Millville, NJ; the other: Harry GARRISON, born: abt 1891 in NJ. I do not know if their were anymore children born to them. Nor do I know anymore about the family but I am looking for any information I can find on any of them. Again Birth, Marriage, Divorce, Death, etc. That is as far as I have on the GARRISON at this time. Thank you until we talk again, peace be with you and yours. Theodore R. VonBartheld - in Alabama -----Original Message----- From: njcumber-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:njcumber-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of andrea batcho Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 4:28 PM To: njcumber@rootsweb.com Subject: [NJCUMBER]*** GARRISON of Cumberland Co., NJ I have Lenora daughter of Samuel, son of Samuel. and that's all I have:) Please share, adrea On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 6:53 PM, Robert Shaw <shawrh@optonline.net> wrote: Since there is so much lately on the Garrison line I thought I would add my two cents. My grandmother was Lenora Garrison b-1885 in Cumberland County and living in Bridgeton. She married Samuel T. Shaw b=1883 also from Cumberland County. (Roadstown) Lenora's Father was Samuel L. Garrison and her mother Emma J. Swing. I have more information if anyone is interested.

I have Lenora daughter of Samuel, son of Samuel.. and that's all I have :) Please share :) -adrea On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 6:53 PM, Robert Shaw <shawrh@optonline.net> wrote: > Since there is so much lately on the Garrison line I thought I would add my two cents. > My grandmother was Lenora Garrison b-1885 in Cumberland County and living in Bridgeton.She married Samuel T. Shaw b=1883 also from Cumberland County.(Roadstown)Lenora's Father was Samuel L. Garrison and her mother Emma J. Swing . I have more information if anyone is interested. -- Cumberland County Genealogists can order a 2 CD set of high resolution photographs of the original records of the Old Cohansey Baptist Church at Roadstown! Original Sexton's book, Pastor's book, and more! All proceeds go to the church's historical committee. $15 (includes shipping) - email me at final.offer@gmail.com to order today! **$901 donated to the church to date**

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Parkerincorporat Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2531.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I too have had the very same problem.There is a whole complete line on the LDS site from a relative who passed.They refuse to correct it.That it can only be corrected by the submitter.The info has all the correct persons but they were put into the wrong marriages.My gr.grandmother Lafferty is listed as wife of my gr.gr.gr.Grandfather.What is sad is I took it as truth unitl I sent away for my grandfathers s.s. regitration.Which cost me to check them all.Lol Any perons from that line will never know. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SaraHoffman505 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2531.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The Family Bible Record of Joshua & Mary W. Garrison reads "Elizebeth Garrison born June 10, 1851." Sara Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jmyoung365 Surnames: Garrison Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2531.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yes. This is the point I was trying to make earlier when the marriage at age 16 jumped out at me like a red flag when there was another possible Elizabeth GARRISON just a few years older in the same place at the same time...BUT...I do think the information is accurate that she is the daughter of Joshua GARRISON and Mary WARFUL because the information DOES match her age on later census records and other information seems to match. Joan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: chrisjahn1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2531.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Be wary about trusting those IGI records: I've found dozens of errors. These are not "true" records: that is, they are not based on some old record found in a town hall or something. These are DERIVED records. Mormon missionaries assembled these records by collating from several sources, and often they assign based on too few factors. I've seen this exact circumstance three times in my own research; they knew that John Smith married Jane Doe, but didn't account for the fact that there were several John Smiths and Jane Does in the area, and created a marriage record for the wrong pair. Took me two years to discover why I couldn't make all the facts line up. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jmyoung365 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2532.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There was a post on the GARRISON surname board/list a couple years ago about DNA testing and the lengthly post claimed that there were mulitple origins for the GARRISONs including those in Cumberland and Salem counties: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/garrison/2006-01/1136917095 Apparently line #6 descending from "early David" is the one we've been discussing with the allegation of Indian ancestry. No ducumentation was presented -- just the story that the immigrant ancestor in the early 1600s had married a "Delaware Indian." So that allegation may be the basis for the many family stories of GARRISON Native American heritage. There is another way of "proving" NA (or other Asian) ancestry that no one has mentioned as yet in this thread. Asians (including Native Americans) have differences in their teeth and gums from Europeans. If a person inherits Indian (or Asian) shovel or scoop teeth it would be an indication of Asian or NA blood. If a person who believes they are only part NA does NOT inherit the "Asian" teeth it doesn't prove they do NOT have NA blood--but the presence of this trait pretty much proves they DO. A dentist could confirm or refute the presence of the so-called "Indian teeth." I thought this sounded like a myth when I first heard about it so I asked my dentist and he confirmed that the trait does exist. Joan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: GDPreston1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2531.2.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Someone "deleted" my previous post on this thread - Unclear why - Here is another link that you will enjoy: Check out the story beginning on page 51 - http://books.google.com/books?id=tOAXAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA51&dq=a girl and a hogshead#PPA51,M1 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Since there is so much lately on the Garrison line I thought I would add my two cents. My grandmother was Lenora Garrison b-1885 in Cumberland County and living in Bridgeton.She married Samuel T. Shaw b=1883 also from Cumberland County.(Roadstown)Lenora's Father was Samuel L. Garrison and her mother Emma J. Swing . I have more information if anyone is interested.

Sara- I'll try to find out from my cousin if the book is still available anyplace. I do know for a fact that Gloucester County Historical Society Library has a copy as that is where I copied some pages from the book that were of interest to me. Joan In a message dated 7/26/2008 6:54:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, july37@cox.net writes: Joan, I appreciate you sharing you Garrison connection. I'd be interested in obtaining a copy of the Garrison book by Pauline Garrison Learn. Any idea if it is available? Sara **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

Hi, Sara- I'm not connected to the GARRISONs by blood but my cousins are...my aunt was married to a GARRISON from Cumberland County. In fact, a cousin from that "branch" of the family, Pauline (GARRISON) LEARN, published a book on the family which, unfortunately, I don't own. Joan In a message dated 7/26/2008 6:33:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, july37@cox.net writes: Joan, Thanks very much for posting the Garrison link it is very informative. Would you mind sharing your Garrison line? Sara **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

Joan, Thanks for any help you can provide me on accessing the book. Sara ----- Original Message ----- From: <JYoung6180@aol.com> To: <njcumber@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [NJCUMBER] Garrisons of Cumberland Co., NJ & DNA Testing > Sara- > > I'll try to find out from my cousin if the book is still available > anyplace. > I do know for a fact that Gloucester County Historical Society Library > has a > copy as that is where I copied some pages from the book that were of > interest to me. > > Joan > > > In a message dated 7/26/2008 6:54:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > july37@cox.net writes: > > Joan, > > I appreciate you sharing you Garrison connection. I'd be interested in > obtaining a copy of the Garrison book by Pauline Garrison Learn. Any idea > if > it is available? > > Sara > > > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SaraHoffman505 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2532/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The Garrisons of Cumberland Co are descendants of Gerrit Jansen Van Oldenburg & his wife Clara Matthys through their son Jacob Gerrits de Haes (Garrison) & his wife Christina Cresson. Since early documentation shows this specific Garrison male line to be of European descent YDNA will not prove Native American ancestry unless there has been a FPE (false paternal event) such as an adoption or an out of wedlock birth by a Native American male who came into the Garrison male line & assumed the Garrison name. If there is Native American blood in the Garrison family & it didn't involve a FPE then it came into the family through a female & is found in mtDNA not YDNA. There are other Garrisons in the USA, some but not all relate to our common ancestor in America Gerrit Jansen Van Oldenburg. According to IDENTIGENE DNA, a site that markets Native American DNA testing, certain DNA markers can show which ones are relatively unique to a specific population & predict inheritance percenta! ges. These markers as reported by this group have the ability to differentiate between major geographic regions such as Native Americans in North & South America. Possibly as the field of genetic genealogy progresses & more DNA testing is done on the Garrisons of Cumberland Co & their related families, we will reach a scientific conclusion for the question, does the Garrisons of Cumberland Co have or don't have Native American ancestry? Sara Robbins Hoffman Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Joan, I appreciate you sharing you Garrison connection. I'd be interested in obtaining a copy of the Garrison book by Pauline Garrison Learn. Any idea if it is available? Sara ----- Original Message ----- From: <JYoung6180@aol.com> To: <njcumber@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [NJCUMBER] Garrisons of Cumberland Co., NJ & DNA Testing > Hi, Sara- > > I'm not connected to the GARRISONs by blood but my cousins are...my aunt > was > married to a GARRISON from Cumberland County. In fact, a cousin from that > "branch" of the family, Pauline (GARRISON) LEARN, published a book on the > family which, unfortunately, I don't own. > > Joan > > > In a message dated 7/26/2008 6:33:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > july37@cox.net writes: > > Joan, > > Thanks very much for posting the Garrison link it is very informative. > Would > you mind sharing your Garrison line? > > Sara > > > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Joan, Thanks very much for posting the Garrison link it is very informative. Would you mind sharing your Garrison line? Sara ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <NJCUMBER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [NJCUMBER] Garrisons of Cumberland Co., NJ & DNA Testing > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: jmyoung365 > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.cumberland/2532.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > There was a post on the GARRISON surname board/list a couple years ago > about DNA testing and the lengthly post claimed that there were mulitple > origins for the GARRISONs including those in Cumberland and Salem > counties: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/garrison/2006-01/1136917095 > > Apparently line #6 descending from "early David" is the one we've been > discussing with the allegation of Indian ancestry. No ducumentation was > presented -- just the story that the immigrant ancestor in the early 1600s > had married a "Delaware Indian." So that allegation may be the basis for > the many family stories of GARRISON Native American heritage. > > There is another way of "proving" NA (or other Asian) ancestry that no one > has mentioned as yet in this thread. Asians (including Native Americans) > have differences in their teeth and gums from Europeans. If a person > inherits Indian (or Asian) shovel or scoop teeth it would be an indication > of Asian or NA blood. If a person who believes they are only part NA does > NOT inherit the "Asian" teeth it doesn't prove they do NOT have NA > blood--but the presence of this trait pretty much proves they DO. A > dentist could confirm or refute the presence of the so-called "Indian > teeth." I thought this sounded like a myth when I first heard about it so > I asked my dentist and he confirmed that the trait does exist. > > Joan > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John, Over the years I've accumulated quite a lot of Garrison information so always curious when I see new names like Acneas appear. I believe your Acneas may be a mispelling of the name Enos. Checked Ancestry's census records & find living in 1860 Pittsgrove Township Salem Co., NJ. Enos Garrison age 25, with wife Ann Elizabeth age 23, daughter Hannah age 2 & son Albert age 2.12. 1870 living in Cumberland Co., Millville, NJ. Eliza Garrison (probably Ann Elizabeth) age 30, daughter Hannah age 13, son Albert age 11 Anna age 7 & Jesse age 1. It appears Enos may have died around 1868 or 1869. Sara ----- Original Message ----- From: <JohnRB@aol.com> To: <njcumber@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:43 PM Subject: [NJCUMBER] Garrisons > Andrea, > > I have a Acneas Garison, (no info) married to Eliza Kyte, March 1850. > that had a daughter Hanna Garrison born 13 aug 1856, d 13 Jun 1930. > Hanna > married Phillip M Turpin. their daughter was Lillian May Turpin 13 Apr > 1887. > (she is my grandmother) These are the only ones I have at this time > > All of these are from the Millville/Vineland area in Cumberland > County, NJ. > > Are they any relation to the Garrisons , (John C., Joshua and Elizabeth) > That you referred to. > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJCUMBER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message