It's great that Vince Summers wants to return the favors. That's how this whole system works at it's best. For Vince, there was a Mrs. Summers who was my Sunday School Teacher in Pitman in the late 40's. I would appreciate info on obtaining a copy of the "Prowell" book and the cost. I presume it would be available at the Camden and/or Gloucester Co. Historical Societies. I have seen some info on his work on the internet and found numerous names connected to my tree. Just got back home (240 miles west of Denver) from Denver where I stayed with a friend I grew up with in Pitman who just had 5 bypasses done. His wife passed away 2 years ago so he's living alone now. Just before leaving, picked up another old friend from the "Taj Mahol" of Airports in Denver who is also from Pitman who will stay with Charlie during his convalescence. Talked about old times, including the old Ferry. We tried to remember just where the Ferry docked at in Camden. No questioning the Phila., side as we remember it was close to Market Street where we got drug around as little kids during the shopping sprees. So, does anyone know offhand where it docked.? This is not the least bit critical, so I wouldn't want anyone to waste any time researching it. Have enjoyed reading the emails on the NY Shipyard. Way back when we were kids, one of the jokes that was popular was to tell someone to hold their tongue and say "My Father works at the New York Shipyard". Try it. In fact the one who told me that was the son of a New York Shipyard employee. Then there were emails concerning employee records from RCA. I thought to myself, the next thing you know their will be email on Campbell Soup. Sure enough that came along quickly. I worked for a short time at the Naval Reserve Center when it was across the street from the Headquarters of Campbell Soup in the mid 60's. For what its worth I was born in West Jersey Hospital in Camden but don't have any questions on it other than, "Was anyone else born there in July 1942 and thinks they were switched at birth"? Another one of those popular beliefs held by some. I have resigned my fate however to be connected to the right parents. My 5th G.Grandfather Alexander/Ellicksander Rowand b. 1654 mrd Abigail Hillman, daughter of John Hillman and Margaret Ward. Florence Hillman recently has conjectured with some evidence that John Hillman was mrd previous to Margaret Ward and that Margaret Ward was also previously mrd. Their are various dates of birth given for Margaret Ward making her about 40 years old when marrying John Hillman in 1692/3. This would answer some of the those nagging questions for instance, having 5 children starting at about the age of 40, if it is true. Florence also suggests that Margaret could have been a Collins. Heaven help me. I am already descended twice from John Hillman & Margaret and also the Clement family. In addition I am already descended from the Collins. I really don't want to have a 3rd dual descendancy, but if I do, then I have great excuses for any of the dumb things I do. Any info on this will be greatly appreciated. For those of you who are interested in the John Hillman Family Tree, I do have the names of 2,849 descendants. Wes Hayman Hotchkiss, Co.