Searching for any Dugan, O'Dugan, or any variation of any time period. --Mike Wilson Celtic Reconstructionist

My gr, grandmother's sister, Elizabeth Spreng married Ferdinand Laird in Camden ca1895(?). I have the year from census reports, but not at my reach now. They had at least 9 or ten children and lived in Magnolia, Camden County, NJ sometime in the early 1900's. My father (second cousins) went to school with some of the Laird kids. Ferdinand may have been a son of Granville Laird. I think they were in Philadelphia previous to Camden....as were the Sprengs. Dennis E. Cox Southern NJ

I am researching the following SIRIS, KIBLITZKY/BROWN family information. Any help is very appreciated! Aaron (aka Harris) SIRIS was born about 1854 to Josef and Chany and immigrated from the Podolya region of Ukraine to NYC approximately 1890. After bringing over the rest of his SIRIS family in 1892: Chaje Feige SHAFER - Aaron's wife Isador Samuel SIRIS - oldest son Chana/Anna SIRIS - oldest daughter AND her new husband, Samuel KIBLITZKY (KIBLITZKY surname later changed to KIBLISKY.. then to KILBY) Jacob Herman SIRIS - son Harry L. SIRIS - son Katie SIRIS - youngest daughter Joine/Leon/George SIRIS - youngest son ... they relocated to Camden (1896), Union (1897), Woodbine (1897-1900) {all in NJ}, then Philadelphia {PA}, and later to NJ again in Trenton. Anna SIRIS and husband, Samuel KIBLITZKY, met and married in "Russia" (Ukraine). Samuel was born in 1875 Ukraine (Gajsin, Podolya region?). Samuel's parents, Paul (Poltie/Nicolas) and Fanny, divorced in "Russia" and each remarried. One of Paul's 2 or 3 children from his 2nd marriage, immigrated to the United States in the early 1900's and changed his name to Charlie BROWN (yes.. this is true!). Charlie lived for a time in Trenton, NJ (1920-1930's). This is the last information I have found on Charlie BROWN and a great dissappointment, believe me. Thank you in advance... Nancy Pitters ndpitters@prodigy.net

The Genealogical Society of Pennsylvania (across the street from the Historical Society of PA) will be open on Saturday Nov. 28 (Thanksgiving weekend) for researchers. The hours will be 10:00 a.m. until 4:45 p.m. The GSP library is located on the second floor of 1305 Locust Street in Philadelphia, PA. Please call (215) 545-0391 for more information. (We are also planning to be open the second Saturday of each month during the winter of 1998-99. Details to follow in a later mailing.) Thank you GSPNews

PAYNE--from England after 1870 LAIRD--from Ireland after 1855 COOMBS--earlier in Burlington Co. In Camden by 1875 RUBIE--from England, after 1900 PURDY--earlier in Burlington Co., In Camden by 1875 Any info appreciated! Kathy

Is any one researching the Batchelor or English family ....would like to share data Aaron

Bierfreund Mester Goetz Suzie salash@aol.com

Hi Vicki, I grew up in collingswood 1939-1962 and left when I got married. Have been back to see family etc. and hope to visit graves the next time I am up there. Have recently found out more about my great grandfather and looking for more. LT NJCAMDEN-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Subject: > > NJCAMDEN-D Digest Volume 98 : Issue 107 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [NJCAMDEN-L] Borton [CWH610@aol.com] > #2 Re: [NJCAMDEN-L] Giffins / Giffen [CWH610@aol.com] > #3 [NJCAMDEN-L] Collingswood? [ChanelC@aol.com] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from NJCAMDEN-D, send a message to > > NJCAMDEN-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [NJCAMDEN-L] Borton > Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:44:52 EST > From: CWH610@aol.com > To: NJCAMDEN-L@rootsweb.com > > I didn't have Sarah Borton, but do have her parents as William Borton & > Parmelia Sitly. I don't have any way of confirming the proper spelling of her > last name. I do have William Borton's ancestry back to William Borton b. abt. > 1557 in case this may be of help. > > Wes Hayman > Hotchkiss, Co. > ----------------- > Forwarded Message: > Subj: [NJCAMDEN-L] Re: Samuel DAVIDSON - residence Camden, NJ - 1870 > Date: 11/1/98 11:33:49 AM Pacific Standard Time > From: silence@bright.net (Karen Borton) > To: NJCAMDEN-L@rootsweb.com > > Hi Bill & list - The parents of Sarah Ann BORTON DAVIDSON are Charles > and Permilia SITLEY BORTON. Sarah also had a sister named Ellen BORTON > SMITLEY and "her" daughter was named Permilia. > Thanks for catching that - Karen > > > > Hi Karen > > > > This has me a bit confused. The sister-in-law Permelia was married to > > Thomas Love (I thought), > > but the mother-in-law was Permillia (Sitley) Borden > > > > As a matter of fact? I got this information from a previous post of yours. > > > > Bill > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > Looking for Samuel DAVIDSON born about 1831 in Pennsylvania. He was > > living in the South Ward of Camden, New Jersey in 1870 and worked as a > > team driver. He was married to Sarah Ann BORTON born about 1834 in New > > Jersey. Their children were: > > Joseph E. DAVIDSON born about 1853 in New Jersey > > Mary Emma DAVIDSON born about 1858 in New Jersey > > Samuel DAVIDSON born about 1861 in New Jersey > > William DAVIDSON born about 1869 in New Jersey > > Sister-in-law, Permilia BORTON SMITLEY and her daughter were enumerated > > with them in 1870. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [NJCAMDEN-L] Giffins / Giffen > Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:05:08 EST > From: CWH610@aol.com > To: NJCAMDEN-L@rootsweb.com > > Mike, > > Don't recall if we have discussed this surname previously or not. I have been > in touch with quite a few Githens researchers. Will forward your email to > them. There are various spellings on this name. Whether they are all the > same name or not is a big question. > > One particular problem I have had to deal with is my 3rd G.Grandmother who was > Mary Grapevine of whom one researcher has informed me that the Grapevine name > was changed from Giffins/Githins when they arrived from Ireland. > > The really interesting thing on her is that quite a few descendants have > family lore that Mary Grapevine was an indian. > > Wes Hayman > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [NJCAMDEN-L] Collingswood? > Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:33:33 EST > From: ChanelC@aol.com > To: NJCAMDEN-L@rootsweb.com > > Is there anyone on this list from Collingswood, New Jersey"? > > Vickie

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Is there anyone on this list from Collingswood, New Jersey"? Vickie

Reciently I discovered that my G-Great Grandfather, Charles H. Giffins, is buried in Berlin Cemetary! This is a real breakthrough for me because there was some confusion on the spelling of the last name. My Great grandmother was illiterate, so until we got some sort of confermation, we didn't know what the right spelling was. The only problem now is that in the Striker book of NJ Regiments his last name is listed as Giffen. He served in the 23 NJ in Co.K. His headstone says Giffins. I'm now waiting on his death certificate. If anyone has any connection to either of these last names please drop me a line. Thanks, Michael Conley.

Mike, Don't recall if we have discussed this surname previously or not. I have been in touch with quite a few Githens researchers. Will forward your email to them. There are various spellings on this name. Whether they are all the same name or not is a big question. One particular problem I have had to deal with is my 3rd G.Grandmother who was Mary Grapevine of whom one researcher has informed me that the Grapevine name was changed from Giffins/Githins when they arrived from Ireland. The really interesting thing on her is that quite a few descendants have family lore that Mary Grapevine was an indian. Wes Hayman

I didn't have Sarah Borton, but do have her parents as William Borton & Parmelia Sitly. I don't have any way of confirming the proper spelling of her last name. I do have William Borton's ancestry back to William Borton b. abt. 1557 in case this may be of help. Wes Hayman Hotchkiss, Co. ----------------- Forwarded Message: Subj: [NJCAMDEN-L] Re: Samuel DAVIDSON - residence Camden, NJ - 1870 Date: 11/1/98 11:33:49 AM Pacific Standard Time From: silence@bright.net (Karen Borton) To: NJCAMDEN-L@rootsweb.com Hi Bill & list - The parents of Sarah Ann BORTON DAVIDSON are Charles and Permilia SITLEY BORTON. Sarah also had a sister named Ellen BORTON SMITLEY and "her" daughter was named Permilia. Thanks for catching that - Karen > > Hi Karen > > This has me a bit confused. The sister-in-law Permelia was married to > Thomas Love (I thought), > but the mother-in-law was Permillia (Sitley) Borden > > As a matter of fact? I got this information from a previous post of yours. > > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > > Looking for Samuel DAVIDSON born about 1831 in Pennsylvania. He was > living in the South Ward of Camden, New Jersey in 1870 and worked as a > team driver. He was married to Sarah Ann BORTON born about 1834 in New > Jersey. Their children were: > Joseph E. DAVIDSON born about 1853 in New Jersey > Mary Emma DAVIDSON born about 1858 in New Jersey > Samuel DAVIDSON born about 1861 in New Jersey > William DAVIDSON born about 1869 in New Jersey > Sister-in-law, Permilia BORTON SMITLEY and her daughter were enumerated > with them in 1870.

The Free Library of Philadelphia occassionally has free genealogy classes. http://www.library.phila.gov/ The Federal Archives Branch in Philadelphia also sometimes has free genealogy classes. http://www.nara.gov/regional/philacc.html And the Genealogical Society of Pennsylvania sometimes has genealogy classes. http://www.libertynet.org/gspa/ Check with the local genealogical or historical society near you. Sometimes they have genealogy classes as well, but are often not good at publicizing this information outside of their membership. Gary Steiner gsteiner@cyberenet.net >Hi >I'm new to this list and fairly new to genealogy. Does anyone know of any >short courses or informative lectures on genealogy in the area? I'd >appreciate hearing from someone. Thanks..........Audrey

Hi Bill & list - The parents of Sarah Ann BORTON DAVIDSON are Charles and Permilia SITLEY BORTON. Sarah also had a sister named Ellen BORTON SMITLEY and "her" daughter was named Permilia. Thanks for catching that - Karen > > Hi Karen > > This has me a bit confused. The sister-in-law Permelia was married to > Thomas Love (I thought), > but the mother-in-law was Permillia (Sitley) Borden > > As a matter of fact? I got this information from a previous post of yours. > > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > > Looking for Samuel DAVIDSON born about 1831 in Pennsylvania. He was > living in the South Ward of Camden, New Jersey in 1870 and worked as a > team driver. He was married to Sarah Ann BORTON born about 1834 in New > Jersey. Their children were: > Joseph E. DAVIDSON born about 1853 in New Jersey > Mary Emma DAVIDSON born about 1858 in New Jersey > Samuel DAVIDSON born about 1861 in New Jersey > William DAVIDSON born about 1869 in New Jersey > Sister-in-law, Permilia BORTON SMITLEY and her daughter were enumerated > with them in 1870.

audrey: the lancaster county historical society (lancaster, pa) is holding what they call their "family history conference" on march 25-27. it is advertised to consist of lectures, workshops, exhibits, etc... dealing with research techniques. ive never been to it, so i cant tell you how worthwhile it is (perhaps someone else on the list can). i did register for this year's program. the price was about thirty or forty dollars; i dont remember exactly. kurt. > I'm new to this list and fairly new to genealogy. Does anyone know > of any short courses or informative lectures on genealogy in the area? > I'd appreciate hearing from someone. Thanks..........Audrey

To one and all: I am looking for the Descendants or Ancestors of JAMES THOMPSON, b. April 30, 1790 in New Jersey, d. Dec. 25, 1878 In Ohio ? His wife was MICHHA KELLY, b. Nov. 12, 1792 in Maryland, d. Sept. 15, 1868 in Ohio ?. Their offspring was ONE GIRL, born before 1824 in Maryland, HENRY b. abt 1824 in Maryland, THOMAS A. b. abt 1827 in Maryland, EDWIN D. G., b. Sept. 12, 1828 in Maryland, d. Dec 3, 1910. (Got MARRIED on Sept. 5, 1852 to CATHERINE “Kitty” PRESTON b. Dec. 27, 1833. d. Mar 22, 1896. Her father’s name was OLIVER PRESTON, Mother‘s name was SARAH). JAMES b. abt 1831 in Maryland. CHARITY b. abt 1832 in Maryland. SARAH I., b. abt 1834 in Maryland. Edwin & Kitty's offspring consisted of eleven children. #1 SARAH ELIZABETH, b. Aug. 1, 1853 in Ada, Oh. d. Jan . 28, 1920 in Portland Or. She was MARRIED to D.C. EMERY. Their offspring was I.N. (Mrs.) HYNDMAN in Portland, Or. Who had 4 children. #2 JAMES LOVELESS,. b. Aug. 10, 1855. In Ada Oh. d.. Oct 23, 1948. In Topeka, Ks Got MARRIED on Aug. 10, 1884 to HARRIETT ANN WOOD, b. May 13, 1862, d. Sept. 1, 1933 at Dennis, Ks. Their offspring was: (I have a family tree thru Sept. 1995) A: JESSE EDWIN, b. Dec. 10, 1884. At Ada Oh. d. Nov. 27, 1951 at Topeka, Ks. Got MARRIED to ATHEA May NEWELL , (date unknown). b. May 6, 1885 at Elmont, Ks. d. Feb. 21, 1974 at Topeka, Ks. They had four offspring. B: FREDERICK PAUL, b. June 29, 1886. d. Jan 13, 1981. At Kalispell Mt. C: MERLE ELSWORTH, b. May 2, 1890. At Douglas Co. Ks. d. Aug. 11, 1962. At Garden City, Ks. Got Married on July 19, 1917 at Kimball Ks. To ADDIE MELISSA MORGAN b. Sept. 25, 1899. At Kimball Ks. d. Dec 26, 1974 at Garden City, Ks. They had three offspring. #3 VIOLOQUA b. Dec 20, 1857 at Ada Oh. MARRIED a gentleman by the name of Wham at Toledo, Oh. #4 L. MARINDA B. Dec 27, 1859 at Ada, Oh. d. (date unknown) At COVENA, CA. married a gentleman by the name of JOHN SMITH #5 ELMER ELSWORTH b. May 20, 1862. at Ada Oh d. Sept. 1, 1887. #6 SHERMAN GRANT b. Dec 1, 1864. at Ada Oh. d. June 1903. MARRIED ALICE WHITE. #7 THOMAS RALPH b. May 2, 1867 at Ada, Oh. DIED: at Johnson, Ks. MARRIED CORA MORRIS. #8 EDWIN LEWIS b. Feb. 22, 1870. at Ada Oh d. March 25, 1921. MARRIED CLARA PARKER. #9 ROSCOE KELLY b. Nov. 15, 1872 at Ada, Oh. #10 MAGGIE M. b. Oct 14, 1875 at Ada, Oh, d. Feb. 26, 1952 at Toledo, Lucas Co. Oh, Woodlawn Cem., Ada Oh. Got MARRIED Feb. 28, 1893 to ALBERT REAM b. April 23, 1871. d. Aug. 11, 1929 at Hardin Co. Oh, Woodlawn Cem., Ada, Oh. They had three offspring. #11 CORA MAY b. May 8, 1878 in Kansas. d. (date unknown) MARRIED: FREET J. LUDWIG b. Sept. 23, 1878 at Kirby, Wyandot Co, Oh d. Sept. 23, 1951 at DOLA, OH. They had Ten offspring. My Grandfather was James Loveless Thompson and I have a lot if information on his descendents. Gene Thompson

Looking for Samuel DAVIDSON born about 1831 in Pennsylvania. He was living in the South Ward of Camden, New Jersey in 1870 and worked as a team driver. He was married to Sarah Ann BORTON born about 1834 in New Jersey. Their children were: Joseph E. DAVIDSON born about 1853 in New Jersey Mary Emma DAVIDSON born about 1858 in New Jersey Samuel DAVIDSON born about 1861 in New Jersey William DAVIDSON born about 1869 in New Jersey Sister-in-law, Permilia BORTON SMITLEY and her daughter were enumerated with them in 1870. Is this family familiar to anyone? They seem to have disappeared from New Jersey. Thank you - Karen Borton Edon, OH

Someone will tell you some appropriate information, I'm sure, but what I would suggest is that everyone give you their own favorite tip. My most productive tip suggestion is, believe it or not, Ask others for suggestions... Some things that others have suggested have never crossed my mind, but it is amazing how much good people have done me! And believe me when I say this is no cop out. I am no dope and have untangled some of the knottiest problems through reasoning alone, based on paltry data. Still... Ask others for suggestions... Vince Sunsitter@aol.com wrote: > Hi > I'm new to this list and fairly new to genealogy. Does anyone know of any > short courses or informative lectures on genealogy in the area? I'd > appreciate hearing from someone. Thanks..........Audrey

Hi I'm new to this list and fairly new to genealogy. Does anyone know of any short courses or informative lectures on genealogy in the area? I'd appreciate hearing from someone. Thanks..........Audrey