For those who might want to see the earlier postings of my census work, check: NJGENWEB County Archives List [email protected]

Folks, A distant cousin wrote me to ask me to assist her with regard to a 1920 Census entry. She thinks I am somewhat knowledgeable on this topic. Not particularly. Can you assist in this? And if an *image* was available, it would be great. I would *not* take credit for the lookup - it is not the way I work! Here, then, is what she asked me: "I was wondering if you know where I can find the 1920 census for Gloucester City? You seem to know a lot about that - my mother lived with her Aunt and Uncle on Martket St. in Gloucester and I don't know if it was her father's brother or her mother' brother. If it was her mother's it would be ZIMMERMAN, but if it was her father's it would be SNELLBAKER. It has been a mystery, since she only refered to them as Aunt Teen and Uncle Harvey. She said that Uncle Harvey was her real relative by blood." Punctuation modification made by me... Thanks for any help, Vince Summers

BURLINGTON CO. NJ 20 July 1860, PO Rancocas, Willingboro Twp. p. 938 938 1 440 456 HANSIL Wilmott 11 m w Pa 938 2 440 456 HANSIL Richd. H. 8 m w NJ 938 3 441 456 ROSSEL Saml. 35 m w NJ 938 4 441 456 ROSSEL Mary J. 25 f w NJ 938 5 441 456 ROSSEL Alice A. 3 f w NJ 938 6 441 456 ROSSEL Aaron 1 m w NJ 938 7 442 457 BUZBY John 55 m w farmer NJ 938 8 442 457 BUZBY Mary 55 f w NJ 938 9 442 457 BUZBY Hannah 22 f w NJ 938 10 442 457 BUZBY John 20 m w farm labor NJ 938 11 442 457 BUZBY Joseph 18 m w farm labor NJ 938 12 442 457 BUZBY Ruthanna 13 f w NJ 938 13 442 457 STOCKSTON George 77 m w NJ 938 14 443 458 BUSBY Daniel 56 m w farmer NJ 938 15 443 458 BUSBY Hannah 50 f w NJ 938 16 443 458 BUSBY Amanda 23 f w NJ 938 17 443 458 BUSBY Rebecca 27 f w NJ 938 18 443 458 BUSBY Ann 20 f w NJ 938 19 443 458 JEFFRIES Wm. 17 m w farm labor Pa 938 20 443 458 FOSTER Wm. 73 m w NJ 938 21 444 459 HAINES Burr 29 m w farmer NJ 938 22 444 459 HAINES Elizabeth 29 f w NJ 938 23 444 459 HAINES Howard 5 m w NJ 938 24 444 459 HAINES Frank 4 m w NJ 938 25 444 459 HAINES Sarah 1 f w NJ 938 26 444 459 WATSON Chas. 12 m m NJ 938 27 445 460 STOKES George 44 m w NJ 938 28 445 460 STOKES Martha 44 f w Pa 938 29 445 460 STOKES Rachel B. 15 f w NJ 938 30 445 460 STOKES Anna 8 f w NJ 938 31 445 460 MULOY Rosalie 30 f w domestic Ireland 938 32 445 460 MULOY James 12 m w Atlantic Ocean 938 33 445 460 BRISTOL Stephen 20 m w Pa 938 34 446 461 BUZBY Granville W. 45 m w farmer NJ 938 35 446 461 BUZBY Sarah B. 33 f w Maine 938 36 446 461 BUZBY Mary E. 14 f w S.Carolina 938 37 446 461 BUZBY Iran 12 m w S. Carolina 938 38 446 461 BROWN Sarah 16 f b NJ 938 39 446 461 TODD Frank 10 m m PA 938 40 447 462 MOORE Joshua 42 m w farmer NJ

BURLINGTON CO. NJ 19 July 1860, PO Rancocas, Willingboro Twp. p. 937 937 1 433 448 PIPPIT Paul 18 m w farm labor NJ 937 2 433 448 PINION George 12 m b NJ 937 3 434 449 RODGERS Joseph 33 m w farmer NJ 937 4 434 449 RODGERS Hannah 50 f w NJ 937 5 434 449 RODGERS William 17 m w farm labor NJ 937 6 434 449 RODGERS Sarah A. 14 f w NJ 937 7 434 449 GOODWIN Mary 9 f w Pa 937 8 434 449 STEEL Robert 9 m w Pa 937 9 434 449 SIMMONS Stephen 36 m b farm labor Pa 937 10 434 449 GAINS Maurice 17 m b farm labor NJ 937 11 434 449 BRADEY Lydia 22 f w domestic NJ 937 12 435 450 WILLS William 28 m w farm labor NJ 937 13 435 450 WILLS Angeline 26 f w NJ 937 14 435 450 WILLS Martha 1 f w NJ 937 15 436 451 HEART Michael 38 m w farm labor Hesse Damstaag 937 16 436 451 HEART Mary 37 f w Hesse Damstaag 937 17 436 451 HEART Mary A. 10 f w NJ 937 18 436 451 HEART Frederick 6 m w NJ 937 19 436 451 HEART Elwood 3 m w NJ 937 20 436 451 HEART Michael 1 m w NJ 937 21 437 452 WOOLMAN Asher 64 m w farmer NJ 937 22 437 452 WOOLMAN Rachel 50 f w NJ 937 23 437 452 WOOLMAN Ann 14 f w NJ 937 24 437 452 WOOLMAN Nathan 11 m w NJ 937 25 438 453 AUSTIN Hannah 66 f w NJ 937 26 438 453 ASA William 30 m w farmer NJ 937 27 438 453 COBB Tallman 21 m w farm labor NJ 937 28 438 453 MAUL Rebecca 20 f w domestic NJ 937 29 438 453 GILBERT Joseph 14 m w NJ 937 30 438 453 STONEHEART Sophia 9 f w Pa 937 31 439 454 HUBBS Saml. 51 m w farmer NJ 937 32 439 454 HUBBS Hannah 48 f w NJ 937 33 439 454 HUBBS Mary 21 f w NJ 937 34 439 454 HUBBS Rebecca 7 f w NJ 937 35 440 455 HAUSIL James S. 49 m w farmer Pa 937 36 440 455 HAUSIL Hannah 50 f w NJ 937 37 440 455 HAUSIL Amos 23 m w druggist Pa 937 38 440 455 HAUSIL Milton 21 m w farm labor Pa 937 39 440 455 HAUSIL Ella 16 f w Pa 937 40 440 455 HAUSIL Albert 14 m w Pa

OOPS! Sorry for the goof! I meant 1920 census, not 1930. My apologies! Jodi

In a message dated 4/7/02 12:59:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Is the 1930 NJ Census now being tapped by some? Hi Vince -- nothing on line yet. No index of names yet -- just page after page of images (not searchable yet) of Delaware and Utah. It will be a while before they are indexed for each state and then searchable on the ancestry.com site. Let me know if you hear of another online site. Joan

In a message dated 4/7/02 12:48:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > I have another question. I vaguely remember a discussion about death > certificates being received with the cause of death blacked out. I am about > > to order several death certificates. Is there a way that I can order them > with the cause of death still listed on them? > Hi Jodi, Try using the reason for your request as a "need for family medical history." This has worked for me in the past. Joan

Is the 1930 NJ Census now being tapped by some? I really, really want to learn of my greatuncle's family. He is almost unknown to me. I would be happy to pay for a lookup of them in that census, if someone would be willing to do that for me. He may have been in Burlington County by that time -- I suspect he was. Let me know if you can assist. Wayne Egbert AYRES who had married Alice N. I do not know what the N. was for. Thanks, Vince Summers

Thanks to all of you who looked up my great-grandfather, Alfred Long, in the 1930 census for me. I appreciate your time and effort! It gave me some information about my uncle that I didn't know. We only knew him as Bonsall, but his real name was Alfred Bonsall Jr. He went by his middle name. I have another question. I vaguely remember a discussion about death certificates being received with the cause of death blacked out. I am about to order several death certificates. Is there a way that I can order them with the cause of death still listed on them? Jodi

I received an obiturary from The Courier Post and Morning Post dated Nov. 30, 1932, and thought other names included might be helpful to others. Edward Sleeper-Godfrey, Emil F. Jentsch, Harry James Lippincott, William C. Buri, William T. Reimbold, Mrs. Hannah C. Stowe, and Eleanor Porch. Shirley

Jodi, If you know the town where the person was pronounced dead, you can order death certificates from that locality. Each municipality maintains a vital record office. When I have ordered them through the local authority, the cause of death has never been blackened out. Note I said above "where the person was pronounced dead". That is the key. If a person died at home and the doctor or whomever pronounced the death there, then that town would have the certificate. However, say in the instance where the person was transported to a nearby hospital, then the certificate would be found in that town. Lynn --- [email protected] wrote: > I am about > to order several death certificates. Is there a way > that I can order them > with the cause of death still listed on them? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/

BURLINGTON CO. NJ 19 July 1860, PO Rancocas, Willingboro Twp. p. 936 936 1 429 444 PASTE Eueltus 74 m w retired farmer Pa 936 2 429 444 PAISTE Ruth 82 f w Pa 936 3 429 444 PAISTE Panine 40 f w Pa 936 4 430 445 WILLS John B. 56 m w farmer NJ 936 5 430 445 WILLS Rebecca 59 f w NJ 936 6 430 445 WILLS Hannah 28 f w NJ 936 7 430 445 WILLS Joseph 26 m w farm labor NJ 936 8 430 445 WILLS Sarah 24 f w NJ 936 9 430 445 WILLS Charles H. 20 m w farm labor NJ 936 10 430 445 WILLS Mary 17 f w NJ 936 11 430 445 WILLS Howard 15 m w farm labor NJ 936 12 430 445 WILLS Alfred 13 m w NJ 936 13 431 446 SMITH William 63 m w farmer NJ 936 14 431 446 SMITH Elizabeth 54 f w NJ 936 15 431 446 SMITH Richd. 30 m w Farm labor NJ 936 16 431 446 SMITH Alfred 10 m w NJ 936 17 431 446 SMITH Elizabeh 7 f w NJ 936 18 431 446 SMITH Nathan 4 m w NJ 936 19 431 446 SMITH Saml. 21 m w farm labor NJ 936 20 431 446 SMITH Anna 22 f w NJ 936 21 432 447 STOKES Granville 40 m w merchant Pa 936 22 432 447 STOKES Cornelia 36 f w Pa 936 23 432 447 STOKES Rosalie 14 f w Pa 936 24 432 447 STOKES Ella 12 f w Pa 936 25 432 447 STOKES Josephine 9 f w Pa 936 26 432 447 STOKES Lydia (twin) 6 f w Pa 936 27 432 447 STOKES Ida (twin) 6 f w Pa 936 28 432 447 STOKES George 3 m w Pa 936 29 432 447 STOKES Henrietta 1 f w NJ 936 30 432 447 HILL Frank 36 m w farm labor Germany 936 31 432 447 FURREN Mary 33 f w domestic Ireland 936 32 433 448 SCATTERGOOD William A. 54 m w farmer NJ 936 33 433 448 SCATTERGOOD Rebecca 57 f w NJ 936 34 433 448 SCATTERGOOD Hannah A. 29 f w NJ 936 35 433 448 SCATTERGOOD Catharine 27 f w NJ 936 36 433 448 SCATTERGOOD Rachel 23 f w NJ 936 37 433 448 SCATTERGOOD Sarah 25 f w NJ 936 38 433 448 SCATTERGOOD William 21 m w NJ 936 39 433 448 SCATTERGOOD Caleb 18 m w NJ 936 40 433 448 SCATTERGOOD Rebecca 10 f w NJ

Hi List!! would some body please be able to do a DCT on my Great Great Grandfather Peter Hook b.9-23-1839 Germany D.7-6-1920 Camden, Camden, New Jersey Thanks in advance, Sincerely, Ramona [email protected] --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax

BURLINGTON CO. NJ 19 jULY 1860, PO Rancocas, Willingboro Twp. p. 935 935 1 423 438 WOOD Elizabeth 60 f w NJ 935 2 424 439 SCHAUFER John 37 m w miller Bavaria 935 3 424 439 SCHAUFER Mary 28 f w Bavaria 935 4 424 439 SCHAUFER George 6 m w Pa 935 5 424 439 SCHAUFER John 2 m w NJ 935 6 424 439 SCHAUFER Eliza 8/12 f w NJ 935 7 425 440 BUZBY Benjamin 51 m w farmer NJ 935 8 425 440 BUZBY Elizabeth 40 f w NJ 935 9 425 440 BUZBY Mary E. 18 f w NJ 935 10 425 440 BUZBY Elizabeth 10 f w NJ 935 11 425 440 BUZBY Charlotte 6 f w NJ 935 12 425 440 BUZBY Ella 3 f w NJ 935 13 425 440 COOLEY Thoms. 17 m w farm labor NY 935 14 425 440 WILMERTON George 16 m w farm labor NJ 935 15 425 440 BARTLETT Susanna 15 f w domestic NJ 935 16 426 441 BORDEN Martha A. 45 f w NJ 935 17 426 441 BORDEN William 24 m w NJ 935 18 426 441 BORDEN Charlotte 17 f w NJ 935 19 426 441 BORDEN Stephen 18 m w NJ 935 20 426 441 BORDEN Charles 14 m w NJ 935 21 426 441 BORDEN Amelia 11 f w NJ 935 22 426 441 BORDEN Lavinia 9 f w NJ 935 23 426 441 BORDEN Anna 3 f w NJ 935 24 427 442 BUZBY Amos 80 m w retired NJ 935 25 427 442 BUZBY Mary 72 f w PA 935 26 427 442 BUZBY Mary J. 30 f w NJ 935 27 427 442 DEACON Rebecca 44 f w NJ 935 28 427 442 DEACON Mary A. 19 f w NJ 935 29 428 443 STOCKTON William N. 49 m w farmer NJ 935 30 428 443 STOCKTON Abigal M. 37 f w NJ 935 31 428 443 STOCKTON Charles W. 14 m w NJ 935 32 428 443 STOCKTON Hannah 11 f w NJ 935 33 428 443 STOCKTON Maryetta 9 f w NJ 935 34 428 443 STOCKTON Fanny 6 f w NJ 935 35 428 443 STOCKTON Avalina 1 f w NJ 935 36 428 443 STOCKTON Sarah A. 40 f w NJ 935 37 428 443 SAPP Sarah F. 17 f w NJ 935 38 428 443 STOKES Saml 19 m w farm labor NJ 935 39 428 443 STOKES Ira 37 m w farm labor NJ 935 40 428 443 HALLS Chas. H. 11 m w Pa

Hi everyone, Vince and I are working together on our shared POTTS line. I want to thank you for all of the help you've given us! Would SKS be able to search the 1920 census for the following? Camden, Camden County or possibly in Audobon Mary Ellen or Ellen POTTS widowed approx age: 50-60 born: PA She may be enumerated with the following children: George, Ellen, Alfred E., Joseph and Charles. Thank you for your time and help! Take care, Tracy

Glenn, This is a FIRST!!! Many of the NJ County list subscribers launched an E mail, letter writing/phone call blitz in Feb. to NJ Dept. of Health Assemblywoman Loretta Weinberg due to Trenton returning checks and written requests, stating they couldn't look up a certificate without the parents' names. Of course this was ludicrous since one of the main purposes of requesting an old death cert. is to learn the parents' names of the deceased ancestor. I hope your message means a change in heart in Trenton as no one ever had the courtesy to return a phone call or reply to our E mails except in 1 case of a "hold them off" type form letter response. Let's hope that others receive such wonderful responses as your following message implies. Thanks for sharing this as I intend to share w/ some of these lists. Best Regards, Joan Lacy Fitzsimmons In a message dated 4/4/02 12:15:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Dear scholars, > > With permission, I am forwarding a message I have received > from a person who derives from 2 of the MRTwp-to-Millville > Corson lines. Aside from the interest to the Ewings Neck > line of Corsons, the message also illustrates good > cooperation from the New Jersey Archive folks, something > that seems to have been missing for some time. > > Glenn > > Glenn, > > On March 4th I wrote to the NJ State Archives in Trenton, NJ > requesting a death certificate for Joshua Corson. On March > 27th I received a letter stating they could not find a death > record for Joshua Corson. However they did send me a large > sheet of paper called Return of Deaths. The name Joseph > Corson was highlighted in yellow with the following > information. Died March 11, 1869, married, age 71, farmer, > place of birth and death Ewings Neck, parents William and > Mary Corson, cause of death pleurisy. > > The following is an e-mail I received today (4-1-02) from > Catherine Medich, Archivist at NJ State Archives, Trenton, > NJ. > > >There are no birth records on any governmental level (i.e. > local, county or state) >before the state started collecting > them on May 1, 1848. The only sources for birth > >information are private records, such as church records, > family Bibles, etc. The >New Jersey State Archives does not > collect such records. > > >On 21 March we sent you a copy of a death record for a > Joseph Corson who died >11 March 1869 aged 71y 9m 18d. The > age and date of death were approximately >correct for the > Joshua Corson you were requesting. If it is not the same > person, it >is possible that he is a sibling. The death > record does name parents of William and >Mary Corson. > > >Marriages were recorded by the County Clerk beginning in > 1795, but rarely name >parents. > > >A Joshua Corson died in Maurice River Township 23 January > 1862 and in his will he >mentions a wife Rebecca. His death > record names parents of Joshua and Ann. > > Myrna Deasy > > > ==== CORSON Mailing List ==== > The list is not a chat room. Posted messages should be of general > interest. > Please send personal messages and comments directly to the individual > concerned. > >

In a message dated 4/3/02 8:57:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > I would check with Social Security to see if the second number is for a > survivor collecting benefits on the decedent's account, which is perfectly > legal. It might be an error in the SSDI as well, best to check the records > before jumping to conclusions about the legality involved. Liz- There wouldn't be a different SS number for a survivor collecting benefits--only the letter that follows the SS number would change--not the account number. Only the death of the account holder is included in the SSDI. Of course, there are several possibilities as to what could have happened--right on down to the person assuming a new identity under government auspices through the witness protection plan. Joan

I would check with Social Security to see if the second number is for a survivor collecting benefits on the decedent's account, which is perfectly legal. It might be an error in the SSDI as well, best to check the records before jumping to conclusions about the legality involved. Liz Harrison

Vince, That doesn't surprise me. My husbands grandmother died in 1969. He knows, so do his siblings and everyone else. He was 23 and a pallbearer. The SSDI has her death in 1981. It is still a mystery as to why. We posed this to my father in law when he was still living and he didn't know why either. He has 2 sisters still living, we think one of them knows, but, they're not talking. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vincent E. Summers" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:27 PM Subject: [NJCAMDEN] Collected Twice on Social Security? I will not list the person, folks, but one of my lines appears to show the same person twice! Two ***different*** social security numbers. Two different states. --> The same birth and death dates and the same name - a rare one <-- The one SSN was Proven (P) with a death certificate. The second on was Verified (V) with a family member or one acting in their behalf verifying the person! This sounds crooked, and like the person (from Camden and from California) collected twice, or their descendant(s) did. Has anyone else ever heard of this or had it happen in their family lines? Vince Summers

BURLINGTON CO. NJ 18 July 1860, PO RAncocas, Willingboro Twp. p. 934 934 1 417 432 BUZBY Amos 40 m w farmer NJ 934 2 417 432 BUZBY Rebecca 40 f w NJ 934 3 417 432 BUZBY Isaac 7 m w NJ 934 4 417 432 BUZBY Augustus 6 m w NJ 934 5 417 432 MOORE Katurea 15 f w NJ 934 6 417 432 HANNON Catharine 40 f w Ireland 934 7 417 432 BROWN Christopher 36 m w farm labor Ireland 934 8 417 432 WILLS John 21 m w farm labor NJ 934 9 418 433 BISHOP Robert M. 59 m w farmer NJ 934 10 418 433 BISHOP Edith 56 f w NJ 934 11 418 433 MEAD Susanna 49 f w Pa 934 12 418 433 BISHOP James 22 m w farm labor NJ 934 13 418 433 HAINES Isaac 16 m w farm labor NJ 934 14 418 433 ELLIS Joseph 13 m w NJ 934 15 419 434 BUSBY Ephriam 47 m w farmer NJ 934 16 419 434 BUSBY Rachel A. 35 f w NJ 934 17 419 434 BUSBY Paul 19 m w NJ 934 18 419 434 BUSBY George 12 m w NJ 934 19 419 434 BUSBY Hannah 7 f w NJ 934 20 419 434 BUSBY Elizabeth 5 f w NJ 934 21 419 434 BUSBY Ida 1 f w NJ 934 22 419 434 BUSBY Elizabeth 24 f w NJ 934 23 419 434 McLANE Sarah J. 3 f w NJ 934 24 420 435 GAUDER James H. 30 m w wheelwright NJ 934 25 420 435 GAUDER Josephine 26 f w Pa 934 26 420 435 GAUDER Cornelius 7 m w NJ 934 27 420 435 GAUDER Marmaduke 3 m w NJ 934 28 421 436 FRENCH Rebecca 50 f w NJ 934 29 421 436 KALE Richard 50 m w farm labor NJ 934 30 421 436 KALE Anna 45 f w NJ 934 31 421 436 KALE Susanna 8 f w NJ 934 32 421 436 KALE Saml. 6 m w NJ 934 33 421 436 KALE Edith 2 f w NJ 934 34 422 437 ADAMS John 30 m w farm labor NJ 934 35 422 437 ADAMS Mary A. 30 f w NJ 934 36 422 437 ADAMS Ezia 3/12 f w NJ 934 37 423 435 GARWOOD Ephriam 36 m w farmer NJ 934 38 423 435 GARWOOD Anna 23 f w NJ 934 39 423 435 GARWOOD Elwood 3 m w NJ 934 40 423 435 WILSON Chas. 16 m w farm labor NJ