I am in search of the GOLDEY family of Cramer Hill. The address I have for them is: 3272 Remington St or Ave. The family consisted of: Clarence W. GOLDEY his wife Barbara GOLDEY and children: Clarence Jr., Emmett, and William F. GOLDEY. Clarence and Barbara divorced and the boy were sent to Basking Ridge Children Home, does anyone know where this home is located. Louise

----- Original Message ----- From: Hemlock To: Camden, NJ Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 8:21 AM Subject: A Research Visit to Camden...Please help. If I were to take a train into NJ with the idea of doing research in Camden, could someone please advise me of the nearest city as listed below? Also, would a rental car then be best or are there other means of convenient, reasonably priced transportation? Since I will be there overnight, I would also appreciate motel/hotel suggestions. Finally, what problems, if any, will I have as a result of 911? Thank you, Pat P.S. I have added the PA stops in the event that a station there would be more appropriate. NEW JERSEY Absecon, NJ ABN Atlantic City, NJ ACY Cherry Hill, NJ CRH Lindenwold, NJ LDW Metropark, NJ MET New Brunswick, NJ NBK Newark, NJ NWK Newark Int'l Airport, NJ EWR Princeton Junction, NJ PJC Trenton, NJ TRE PENNSYLVANIA 30th Street Station, PA PHL Altoona, PA ALT Ardmore, PA ARD Coatesville, PA COT Connellsville, PA COV Cornwells Heights, PA CWH Downingtown, PA DOW Elizabethtown, PA ELT Erie, PA ERI Exton, PA EXT Greensburg, PA GNB Harrisburg, PA HAR Huntingdon, PA HGD Johnstown, PA JST Lancaster, PA LNC Latrobe, PA LAB Lewistown, PA LEW Middletown, PA MID Mount Joy, PA MJY Paoli, PA PAO Parkesburg, PA PAR Philadelphia 30th St, PA PHL Pittsburgh, PA PGH Tyrone, PA TYR

If I were to take a train into NJ with the idea of doing research in Camden, could someone please advise me of the nearest city as listed below? Also, would a rental car then be best or are there other means of convenient, reasonably priced transportation? Since I will be there overnight, I would also appreciate motel/hotel suggestions. Finally, what problems, if any, will I have as a result of 911? Thank you, Pat P.S. I have added the PA stops in the event that a station there would be more appropriate. NEW JERSEY Absecon, NJ ABN Atlantic City, NJ ACY Cherry Hill, NJ CRH Lindenwold, NJ LDW Metropark, NJ MET New Brunswick, NJ NBK Newark, NJ NWK Newark Int'l Airport, NJ EWR Princeton Junction, NJ PJC Trenton, NJ TRE PENNSYLVANIA 30th Street Station, PA PHL Altoona, PA ALT Ardmore, PA ARD Coatesville, PA COT Connellsville, PA COV Cornwells Heights, PA CWH Downingtown, PA DOW Elizabethtown, PA ELT Erie, PA ERI Exton, PA EXT Greensburg, PA GNB Harrisburg, PA HAR Huntingdon, PA HGD Johnstown, PA JST Lancaster, PA LNC Latrobe, PA LAB Lewistown, PA LEW Middletown, PA MID Mount Joy, PA MJY Paoli, PA PAO Parkesburg, PA PAR Philadelphia 30th St, PA PHL Pittsburgh, PA PGH Tyrone, PA TYR

Thanks to you and everyone else who responded to my question! Regards, Joan In a message dated 4/14/02 9:09:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > When I was a kid, 1939 and later, Cramer Hill ran from 36th street to State > Street, and from the Delaware River on the west to the Pennsylvania > Railroad > on the east. One end was North Camden, The other end was Pennsauken, with > East Camden on one side and the river and Philadelphia on the other. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 7:09 PM > Subject: [NJCAMDEN] Cramer Hill > > > > Hi list, > > Does anyone know what section or borough would be considered the Cramer > Hill > > section in the 1920 census? Thanks for any help. Joan > > > > >

Dear Taffy, When you asked if me to look this up, you included everything but the name of the couple you are looking for. If the name is Nichols, I did find them. However, ED 1, sheet 5, line 30 says Audubon Borough, not Camden City. Don't know if you are a local, but Audubon is right next to Camden, and may have been part of it at that time, I don't know. Line 30 did refer to the address of 717 Third Avenue, so here is the info: Nichols, Wm. G, Head, owns with a mortgage, M, W, 52, married, reads, writes, & speaks English, born NJ, father born NJ, mother born NJ, bolter at shipyard for wages. Nichols, Alice E, wife, F, W, 52, married, reads, writes & speaks English, born NJ, father born NJ, mother born NJ, no occupation listed. Hope this helps! Janet T. Smith Gloucester City, NJ [email protected] Torpey/Tarpy, Flannery* Riley, Wallace* Dazey/Daisey, McComrick, Handcock/Hancock (in DE)* Tonkin, Miller, Rambo* Hughes, Sithens, Nieukirk, TenEyck* Wilson, Andrews, Clare, Kurtz*

Janet: That is the family that I was looking for. Thank you very much for the information. Taffy ----- Original Message ----- From: Janet T. Smith Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 8:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NJCAMDEN] ED 1, 717 3rd Ave, Camden, NJ Dear Taffy, When you asked if me to look this up, you included everything but the name of the couple you are looking for. If the name is Nichols, I did find them. However, ED 1, sheet 5, line 30 says Audubon Borough, not Camden City. Don't know if you are a local, but Audubon is right next to Camden, and may have been part of it at that time, I don't know. Line 30 did refer to the address of 717 Third Avenue, so here is the info: Nichols, Wm. G, Head, owns with a mortgage, M, W, 52, married, reads, writes, & speaks English, born NJ, father born NJ, mother born NJ, bolter at shipyard for wages. Nichols, Alice E, wife, F, W, 52, married, reads, writes & speaks English, born NJ, father born NJ, mother born NJ, no occupation listed. Hope this helps! Janet T. Smith Gloucester City, NJ [email protected] Torpey/Tarpy, Flannery* Riley, Wallace* Dazey/Daisey, McComrick, Handcock/Hancock (in DE)* Tonkin, Miller, Rambo* Hughes, Sithens, Nieukirk, TenEyck* Wilson, Andrews, Clare, Kurtz*

Just a note to let you know how much I and ( I am sure) others appreciate all your hard work. Thank you, Dotty ( Engleman) Emond orig. from North Camden 2, N.J.

Hi list, Does anyone know what section or borough would be considered the Cramer Hill section in the 1920 census? Thanks for any help. Joan

To everyone who responded, thank you so much for answering my question. Linda Nichols

In a message dated 4/14/02 12:53:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > To everyone who has responded to my request, I thank you....I'm not about to > give up, they couldn't have gone too far to get married. > > Thanks again to everyone, Karen > > There were many marriages that never even made it into one of Craig's books. That's why it's always a good idea to check as many sources as possible. Joan

BURLINGTON CO. NJ 20 July 1860, PO Rancocas, Willingboro Twp. p. 943 943 1 475 491 SEVERS Abraham 47 m w wheelwright NJ 943 2 475 491 SEVERS Ann 42 f w NJ 943 3 475 491 ELBERSON George 22 m w wheelwright NJ 943 4 476 492 WOOLMAN Patience M. 41 f w NJ 943 5 476 492 WOOLMAN Rebecca D. 23 m? w NJ 943 6 477 493 BUSBY Hudson 83 m w retired NJ 943 7 477 493 BUSBY Edith 50 f w NJ 943 8 477 493 TAYLOR Martha B. 48 m? w NJ 943 9 477 493 TAYLOR Hudson B. 14 m w NJ 943 10 494 HARRIS Stokes 42 m w storekeeper NJ 943 11 494 HARRIS Rebecca S. 37 f w NJ 943 12 494 HARRIS Hannah M. 16 f w NJ 943 13 494 HARRIS Joseph 13 m w NJ 943 14 494 HARRIS Rachel W. 1 f w NJ 943 15 478 495 BUSBY Tabitha 45 f w NJ 943 16 478 495 DEACON Elizabeth 48 f w NJ 943 17 479 496 DONALDSON Mary 49 f w NJ 943 18 479 496 DONALDSON Virginia 29 f w Virginia 943 19 479 496 DONALDSON George T. 27 m w farmer Md 943 20 479 496 DONALDSON Mary A. 26 f w Md. 943 21 479 496 DONALDSON Martha 24 f w Pa 943 22 479 496 DONALDSON Isabella L. 19 f w Pa 943 23 479 496 DONALDSON Edward K. 17 m w Pa 943 24 479 496 DONALDSON William T. 15 m w Pa 943 25 479 496 JOHNS Augusta 19 f w domestic Md 943 26 480 497 BARAYANN James 30 m w brick maker Pa 943 27 480 497 BARAYANN Hannah 22 f w NJ 943 28 480 497 BARAYANN Amanda 3 f w NJ 943 29 480 497 BARAYANN Elsworth 2 m w NJ 943 30 481 498 POWELL Wilkins R. 29 m w miller NJ 943 31 481 498 POWELL Sally A. 29 f w NJ 943 32 481 498 POWELL Sally G. 6 f w NJ 943 33 482 499 WILLS Joseph 34 m w cordwainer Pa 943 34 482 499 WILLS Mary 31 f w Pa 943 35 482 499 WILLS Edward 10 m w NJ 943 36 482 499 WILLS Mary F. 6 f w NJ 943 37 482 499 WILLS Lucy M. 4 f w NJ 943 38 482 499 WILLS Kate 2 f w NJ 943 39 482 499 LAIRD Andrews 23 m w cordwainer Pa 943 40 482 499 ALLOWAYS Allen 15 m w app. cordwainer Pa

In a message dated 4/14/02 12:53:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > To everyone who has responded to my request, I thank you....I'm not about to > give up, they couldn't have gone too far to get married. > This isn't a direct response to Karen's question--but just a general statement. When you can't find where a couple married who live in South Jersey you might want to consider Elkton, MD. It is the "Gretna Green" of this part of the country. Many couples went to Elkton to got married. Joan

To everyone who has responded to my request, I thank you....I'm not about to give up, they couldn't have gone too far to get married. Thanks again to everyone, Karen

Thanks to both of the people who sent links to websites about WWI aviation. Great sites! Janet T. Smith Gloucester City, NJ [email protected] Torpey/Tarpy, Flannery* Riley, Wallace* Dazey/Daisey, McComrick, Handcock/Hancock (in DE)* Tonkin, Miller, Rambo* Hughes, Sithens, Nieukirk, TenEyck* Wilson, Andrews, Clare, Kurtz*

Hello All, Camden 3, NJ was zone 3...which is now 08103 & is primarily the Parkside area, (which is where the Camden Co. Historical Comm. is located). Sally

Hi List, Am looking for Carrie O'Hara Hegney Lindsay(lindsey) in the Cramer Hill section of Camden. Probably about the 1920-30's. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Patti _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

Just ran across something I thought was interesting, and decided to share it with the list. Having lived all my life in Gloucester City (except for 2 years in Woodbury as a newly wed), I'm surprised that I never heard about this particular use of what I always called the Coast Guard Station, and my parents always called the Immigration Station. When I was a kid, Gloucester had a USCG base on the Delaware River, which had started its life as an immigration station. While browsing the 1920 census for Gloucester City, I found a page that listed 19 names of the "men quartered in barracks at Gloucester City, NJ, at the US Naval Air Craft Station". It's the "Naval Air Craft Station" that took me completely by surprise. This was 1920, just 2 years after the end of WWI, and airplanes just weren't an everyday occurrence in America at that time, were they? With all the stories I heard from my parents and grandparents about Gloucester City, I just would have expected to have heard about this before now. Does anyone else have any info about it? I'll post the names just in case they can be of some help to anyone. McAvoy, Lloyd L., head, M, W, marital status and age unknown, b. PA, father born PA, mother born PA, Sergeant, United States Marine Corp Waddell, Edward R., M, W, 28, S, b. NY, father NY, mother NY, USMC Ritter, Earl R., M, W, 30, S, b. PA, father PA, mother PA, USMC Greer, William E., M, W, 30, S, b. OH, father OH, mother OH, USMC Hart, Elmer E., M, W, 24, S, b. PA, father PA, mother PA, USMC Licks, Theodore, M, W, 21, M, b. NJ, father NY, mother NY, USMC Hartman, Joseph C., M, W, 21, S, b. OH, father KY, mother KY, USMC Buffum, Leroy E., M, W, 21, S, b. NY, father NY, mother NY, USMC White, Ralph, M, W, 24, S, b. SC, father NC, mother NC, USMC Redick, L??? H., M, W, 39, S, b. NY, father NY, mother NY, USMC Harding, James R., M, W, 20, M, b. OH, father OH, mother OH, USMC Keyser, Roscoe H., M, W, 32, S, b. PA, father PA, mother PA, USMC Marshman, Ernest D., M, W, 21, S, b. GA, father GA, mother GA, USMC Sherman, William, M, W, 21, S, b. AL, father England, mother IL, USMC Rutherford, William C., M, W, 22, S, b. TX, father TN, mother TX, USMC Geil, George L., M, W, 20, S, b. Canada (years of immigration and naturalization unknown), father Germany, mother Canada, USMC, Zeluski, Stephen J., M, W, 30, S, b. NY, father Poland, mother Poland, USMC Garrett, Walter P., M, W, 31, M, b. MA, father MA, mother MA, USMC Montague, Peter R., M, W, 22, S, b. NY, father Ireland, mother Ireland, USMC Janet T. Smith Gloucester City, NJ [email protected] Torpey/Tarpy, Flannery* Riley, Wallace* Dazey/Daisey, McComrick, Handcock/Hancock (in DE)* Tonkin, Miller, Rambo* Hughes, Sithens, Nieukirk, TenEyck* Wilson, Andrews, Clare, Kurtz*

In a message dated 4/13/02 7:14:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Am looking for Carrie O'Hara Hegney Lindsay(lindsey) in the Cramer Hill > section of Camden. Probably about the 1920-30's. Any help would be > appreciated. Thanks. Patti > Patti, About what age would she be? Any idea of parents/husbands' name? If she was a single woman living alone, she might be listed by her name, otherwise the census is searchable with head of household's name only. Joan

Hi Janet, I know that GCHS has a map and listing based on the address that tells you what Enumeration District (ED) a person is living in for a given census. Joan In a message dated 4/13/02 7:10:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Is there any kind of listing that helps you figure out what E.D. a > particular street address is in? I bought one census CD of 1920 Camden > County, the part that contains Gloucester City, but some of Camden City is > also on it, and I could look a few things up if I knew what E.D. some > addresses are in. > > Janet T. Smith > Gloucester City, NJ > [email protected] >

Is there any kind of listing that helps you figure out what E.D. a particular street address is in? I bought one census CD of 1920 Camden County, the part that contains Gloucester City, but some of Camden City is also on it, and I could look a few things up if I knew what E.D. some addresses are in. Janet T. Smith Gloucester City, NJ [email protected] Torpey/Tarpy, Flannery* Riley, Wallace* Dazey/Daisey, McComrick, Handcock/Hancock (in DE)* Tonkin, Miller, Rambo* Hughes, Sithens, Nieukirk, TenEyck* Wilson, Andrews, Clare, Kurtz*