Wow!!! Thanks Kathy,......That was QUICK.... but are these really my folks?? The date is likely right ---"18 November 1866", since their first child was born Sept 1867, and Camden County is somewhat close to Shamong in Burlington ---but ......... [I was all set to Question this as follows, ....... ""There were many ,MANY WILLS families in that area at that time, and the McDowell Surname was not unusual either , so this could easily be someone else.""................ THEN, I saw your second post correcting Malcolm's last name to MCMULLEN!! ] Certainly pays to read carefully!! Malcolm J. MCMULLEN and MARTHA Jane Wills were their actual names, and McMullen,-- spelled that way ---was probably fairly UN-common , so I will send for a copy of the certificate. Thanks ever so much. Thanks also for the web site info Steph stephaxi@mindspring.com