Thanks for mentioning this, Malcolm. If anyone is reading the wonderful bit of research by Marilyn Winton -- you can find it in the archives of Quaker-Roots: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/quaker-roots/1998-06/0898020020 It serves as a perfect example of how old family stories can be inaccurate or misleading. Those who argued Mary was an Indian based her knowledge and skills on her having been taken in and raised by an English Quaker family. If people want to believe a "myth" they will find a way to make it plausible. <g> Joan In a message dated 8/1/2008 12:25:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pvsharp@cox.net writes: Another example of what Joan cautions us about is in regard to Mary Carlile, wife of Richard Haines Jr. who was reported to be the daughter of "an Indian Sachem." The following is from Jean Koliha (a Haines descendent) who spoke with Capt. John W. Haines who authored "Richard Haines and His Descendants" --- "He devoted a chapter to Mary pro & con and he did not believe her to be an Indian. He mentioned that a descendant of Mary's described her as having black hair. From then on Mary became an Indian. Capt. Haines also mentioned that there were articles in her inventory (spinning wheels, etc.) that an Indian would not know how to use." Malcolm Schalick Sharp **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)