Could he name be Updyke? Pearl "Vincent E. Summers" <vsummers@gmail.com> wrote: Hi, For a long time now I have listed George STOCKHAM as marrying Sarah W. LONG. They had a number of kids. One married a CAKE. Now the death cert for Elizabeth Sarah CAKE, a daughter, indicated that Sarah's maiden name was actually OPDYKE, and not LONG. This Sarah OPDYKE is written up as a descendant of Samuel FARNSWORTH: Bordentown. Special to The Inquirer. BORDENTOWN. Nov. 13.--Mr. and Mrs. George Stockham, two of this city's oldest residents, celebrated their sixty-second anniversary of their marriage at their home on Farns- worth avenue Tuesday. They were married November 9, 1835, by Rev. John C. Harrison, D. D., pastor of the Baptist church here. They have re- sided in the same house ever since. Mr. Stockham was born in Penn's Manor, Bucks county, Pennsylvania, in 1812. Mrs. Stockham is a native of this place and was born in 1813. She is a descendant of Samuel Farns- worth, Bordentown's first settler. Eight children were born to Mr. and Mr. Stockham, and but one survives, Mrs. Edward Knight Cake, of Wash- ington, D. C., who, with her husband, attended the an[n]iversary. The couple are hale and hearty for their advanced age, and delight in relating interesting reminiscences of their early days. While a resident of Philadelphia Mr. Stockham was a member of the Hu- mane Fire Engine Company, Philadel- phia's first volunteer fire company. Mr. and Mrs. John Edwards, relatives of the old couple, and who have also been married sixty-two years, were among those who called to offer con- gratulations. Can anyone tell me of the parentage of Sarah OPDYKE? I haven't a clue. Thanks! Vince Summers ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/NJBURLIN ********* Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry NJBURLIN Message Board are gatewayed to this Mailing List. Remember that the author of gatewayed messages may not be a list subscriber so please reply to gatewayed messages by clicking on the link and replying on the board. ************ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJBURLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I seek information about Beulah Francis's ancestry. According to a newspaper announcement, she was married to Isaac Richman of Camden County at the home of David Francis of Chester (Cinnaminson) on Nov. 30, 1851. They were married by Rev. Edward Page. In the family Bible, she is listed as being married on Nov. 6th. Elsewhere it is stated that she was married in Camden County. David Francis, a wheelwright, was the father of Beulah Francis. He was born abt. 1796 in NJ, married to Mary Risley, and died April 12, 1876 "in his 80th year." He is buried in Asbury Methodist Cemetery in Cinnaminson. The home of David Francis is sometimes referred to as the home of Daniel Francis and Daniel may be referred to as the officiating preacher. Thanks so much for any help. Natalie Burrows ndburros@verizon.net

Dates fit. Nathan, the son, in 1724, would have been 22 years old when he married Elizabeth Bullock. I should have added that this notation of the marriage says "Chesterfield MM..." MaizieAnn@aol.com "Land of the free BECAUSE of the brave" In a message dated 8/2/2008 11:46:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mac_mag_hol@sbcglobal.net writes: My Dates seem to be WAY off as far as Nathan the son having him born in 1702 I must have **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

MaizieAnn@aol.com "Land of the free BECAUSE of the brave" In a message dated 8/1/2008 1:52:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mac_mag_hol@sbcglobal.net writes: It's been a long while since I've done ANY research on here. This is what I have so far on Sarrah: Sarrah Middleton b) abt 1689 in Burlington Co.,d) 1764 Mansfield Township married Nathan Folwell b) 1673 England m)NO DATE, had these children: some dates are not exact: I have this notation in my Bullock family records: Nathan and Sarah Folwell of Mansfield Twp., Burlington Co., had a son Nathan....this son, Nathan, married Elizabeth Bullock 5 March 1724. Elizabeth d. Dec. 1760. _MaizieAnn@aol.com_ (mailto:MaizieAnn@aol.com) **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

Yeo, they do...need to put on my glasses...boy, the Bullock family goes way back doesn't it!! Many thanks ;)     GOD BLESS,          Christine Maguire-Hollars  "May the best you've ever seen, be the worse you'll ever see"                                 Researching the Surnames                        Maguire-Rafferty-McGrath-Riley                                          McAllister-Giese-Aaronson-Thorn-Healy                                                          ----- Original Message ---- From: "MaizieAnn@aol.com" <MaizieAnn@aol.com> To: njburlin@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2008 11:52:38 AM Subject: Re: [NJBurlin] Sarrah Middleton b) abt 1689 Burlington Co, NJ Dates fit. Nathan, the son, in 1724, would have been 22 years  old when he married Elizabeth Bullock.  I should have added that  this  notation  of the marriage says "Chesterfield MM..."  MaizieAnn@aol.com "Land of the free BECAUSE of the brave"  In a message dated 8/2/2008 11:46:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  mac_mag_hol@sbcglobal.net writes: My Dates  seem to be WAY off as far as Nathan the son having him born in 1702 I must  have **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos.      (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/NJBURLIN ********* Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry NJBURLIN Message Board are gatewayed to this Mailing List.  Remember that the author of gatewayed messages may not be a list subscriber so please reply to gatewayed messages by clicking on the link and replying on the board. ************ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJBURLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My Dates seem to be WAY off as far as Nathan the son having him born in 1702 I must have gotten that from Family Search...but I will put in my notations until I can verify it. Does nayone have info on Sarrah and her parents & siblings? Many Thanks!! ;)              Christine Maguire-Hollars I have this notation in my Bullock family records: Nathan and  Sarah Folwell of Mansfield Twp., Burlington Co., had a son Nathan....this son,  Nathan, married Elizabeth Bullock  5  March 1724.  Elizabeth d.  Dec. 1760. _MaizieAnn@aol.com_ (mailto:MaizieAnn@aol.com)  Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/NJBURLIN ********* Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry NJBURLIN Message Board are gatewayed to this Mailing List.  Remember that the author of gatewayed messages may not be a list subscriber so please reply to gatewayed messages by clicking on the link and replying on the board. ************ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJBURLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello All, I added the next 10 pages of the book "History of New Jersey". It's under maps at http://www.midatlanticarchives.com Alan RESEARCHING: Buckingham, Gilpin, Eastburn, Jeanes, Nowland, Wade, Creswell, Vansant and related families

I did not personally check the sources referenced in the notes on several WorldConnect files -- search on Robert Zane and wife Alday -- I realize this isn't "proof" without checking it out for myself but see: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=sarafina&id=I24076 http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dinska&id=I0664 There are a few trees that attribute one or more of the children to Alice Alday -- but the dates don't seem to support this. A child born in 1682 would have to be attributed to the wife he married in 1681. Is there evidence to support that any of the children were born of the 2nd marriage other than an undocumented family history? Joan In a message dated 8/1/2008 2:39:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pvsharp@cox.net writes: Joan- Do you have the reference[s] for the ZANE record so the record can be set straight? Thanks. Malcolm **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

I would say that while we stick to presenting facts and family stories (undocumented) as long as we differentiate one from the other--the topic is valid (and interesting) on our list provided the discussion is otherwise on-topic for our list. This thread has been on topic for the list as it originated with a Burlington MM marriage record and deals with a family having strong roots in this location. Sacajewea and Pocahontas are well documented in history and their lives can be substantiated with facts. Family lore falls into three categories, that which: 1) can be backed up with documentation 2) can't be proven one way or the other 3) can be disproved on the face of them by the facts. As long as we stick to presenting the facts and stories specific to a family on-topic for this list I have no objection to the discussion. I've done quite a bit of private research for people who wanted to learn more about their family oral history of Indian blood and, while I always start out each new case with an open mind, there have only been two cases where I've been satisfied based upon the facts that there actually was Native American heritage--in all other cases the stories have turned out to be just that--stories--possibly with some kernel of truth behind them--possible Indian ancestry in a generation earlier than the one claimed by the family. Especially with the female ancestors you often reach a point where you can't prove beyond a certain point one way or the other. So those I consider "questionable" but not proved or disproved. Most fall into that category. As genealogists we do need to deal with the facts and keep an open mind. Joan, admin In a message dated 8/1/2008 2:09:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ndburrows@verizon.net writes: Fellow Burlingtonites: I think we should pull back on these discussions of Indian heritage, pro and con. I am not fortunate enough to claim such background but my daughter does and I have done considerable research on the subject. 1) American men arriving in the colonies in the 17th century faced a shortage of "white" women. It is common sense to assume they often took Indian wives whether their names "prove" this or not. It was only successive generations (when white women were in a majority) that such alliances may have been discredited or disowned.. (It happened in my own husband's family). 2) Daughters of Indian chiefs were accorded more privileges and respect than other Indian women and (regardless of what they were called in their own tribes) were justifiably known as "princesses" by the white settlers with whom they came in contact. 3) Little white girls were taught how to spin at a young age. There is no reason to doubt that Indian women (skilled craftswomen in many ways) would have been unable to learn how to use a spinning wheel. 4) Quakers, a liberal sect, may have been more welcoming to Indian wives than other religions. 5) Remember the history of Pocahontas who became a respected lady in English high society. Also the history of the accomplished Indian woman who was the common law wife of the English governor of New York. Also Sacajawea and many other Indian women who served as guides and liaisons in early America.Their services were invaluable to our country. This subject might better be left to professional historians who are experts on early Indian and white culture and intermarriage. Natalie ndburrows@verizon.net **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

Fellow Burlingtonites: I think we should pull back on these discussions of Indian heritage, pro and con. I am not fortunate enough to claim such background but my daughter does and I have done considerable research on the subject. 1) American men arriving in the colonies in the 17th century faced a shortage of "white" women. It is common sense to assume they often took Indian wives whether their names "prove" this or not. It was only successive generations (when white women were in a majority) that such alliances may have been discredited or disowned.. (It happened in my own husband's family). 2) Daughters of Indian chiefs were accorded more privileges and respect than other Indian women and (regardless of what they were called in their own tribes) were justifiably known as "princesses" by the white settlers with whom they came in contact. 3) Little white girls were taught how to spin at a young age. There is no reason to doubt that Indian women (skilled craftswomen in many ways) would have been unable to learn how to use a spinning wheel. 4) Quakers, a liberal sect, may have been more welcoming to Indian wives than other religions. 5) Remember the history of Pocahontas who became a respected lady in English high society. Also the history of the accomplished Indian woman who was the common law wife of the English governor of New York. Also Sacajawea and many other Indian women who served as guides and liaisons in early America.Their services were invaluable to our country. This subject might better be left to professional historians who are experts on early Indian and white culture and intermarriage. Natalie ndburrows@verizon.net

Malcolm- I believe this is incorrect and is probably the basis for the family lore about the ZANEs having "Indian blood." The record I have for Robert ZANE is that he first married Margaret HAMMOND in Dublin, Ireland in 1664 and the first son Nathaniel ZANE was born in Dublin in 1670. Margaret died on the voyage to America and Robert married Alice ALDAY in 1679. She must have died shortly thereafter because he married Elizabeth WILLIS in Flushing Long Island in 1681 and in 1682 son Robert was born in Newton Twp., Gloucester County, NJ. Joan In a message dated 8/1/2008 12:15:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pvsharp@cox.net writes: In the "Genealogy of the Stokes Family" by Richard Haines [p. 147] it shows "...Elizabeth Zane, the dau. of Robert Zane and Jane. Robert was the son of Robert Zane and Alice Aldy, the progenitors of the Zane family..." ref: http://home.comcast.net/~jameslstokes/stogen.htm **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

Thanks for mentioning this, Malcolm. If anyone is reading the wonderful bit of research by Marilyn Winton -- you can find it in the archives of Quaker-Roots: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/quaker-roots/1998-06/0898020020 It serves as a perfect example of how old family stories can be inaccurate or misleading. Those who argued Mary was an Indian based her knowledge and skills on her having been taken in and raised by an English Quaker family. If people want to believe a "myth" they will find a way to make it plausible. <g> Joan In a message dated 8/1/2008 12:25:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pvsharp@cox.net writes: Another example of what Joan cautions us about is in regard to Mary Carlile, wife of Richard Haines Jr. who was reported to be the daughter of "an Indian Sachem." The following is from Jean Koliha (a Haines descendent) who spoke with Capt. John W. Haines who authored "Richard Haines and His Descendants" --- "He devoted a chapter to Mary pro & con and he did not believe her to be an Indian. He mentioned that a descendant of Mary's described her as having black hair. From then on Mary became an Indian. Capt. Haines also mentioned that there were articles in her inventory (spinning wheels, etc.) that an Indian would not know how to use." Malcolm Schalick Sharp **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

Right off the bat I'd be suspicious of the authenticity of this information in that Native Americans didn't have "princesses." That is strictly a European term and it proves that to some extent the content was filtered to relate European concepts. Everytime we see claims of descent from an "Indian Princess" it raises red flags as to the authenticity. See the RootsWeb Guide lesson on claims of Indian acestry from a "maiden" or "princess." http://rwguide.rootsweb.ancestry.com/lesson25.htm#Native%20American But, yes, I've seen three sources now that all say Alice was a Unami Indian and that she died within a few years of the marriage and had no children with Robert ZANE. Joan In a message dated 8/1/2008 10:52:15 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, margieandpaul@comcast.net writes: This was Sachem Alday of the Unami and this was Princess Alday who Robert Zane married as his second wife. **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

Joan- Do you have the reference[s] for the ZANE record so the record can be set straight? Thanks. Malcolm -----Original Message----- From: njburlin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:njburlin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JYoung6180@aol.com Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 9:42 AM To: njburlin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NJBurlin] *** Burlington Friends Meeting Recorded Record Malcolm- I believe this is incorrect and is probably the basis for the family lore about the ZANEs having "Indian blood." The record I have for Robert ZANE is that he first married Margaret HAMMOND in Dublin, Ireland in 1664 and the first son Nathaniel ZANE was born in Dublin in 1670. Margaret died on the voyage to America and Robert married Alice ALDAY in 1679. She must have died shortly thereafter because he married Elizabeth WILLIS in Flushing Long Island in 1681 and in 1682 son Robert was born in Newton Twp., Gloucester County, NJ. Joan In a message dated 8/1/2008 12:15:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pvsharp@cox.net writes: In the "Genealogy of the Stokes Family" by Richard Haines [p. 147] it shows "...Elizabeth Zane, the dau. of Robert Zane and Jane. Robert was the son of Robert Zane and Alice Aldy, the progenitors of the Zane family..." ref: http://home.comcast.net/~jameslstokes/stogen.htm **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/NJBURLIN ********* Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry NJBURLIN Message Board are gatewayed to this Mailing List. Remember that the author of gatewayed messages may not be a list subscriber so please reply to gatewayed messages by clicking on the link and replying on the board. ************ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJBURLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In the historic society in Salem, NJ is an old, hard to read book, "The Diary of Captain Robert Zane." It states Robert Zane's first wife died on the way over here. Robert had become very friendly with the Unami clan of the Leni Lenape. Captain Robert Zane was running through the woods up near Burlington, NJ. He came upon a log cabin in the woods and was invited in for a rest and some food by the old man sitting out front. The Captain noticed in the dark corner of the cabin the beautiful daughter of this old man. This was Sachem Alday of the Unami and this was Princess Alday who Robert Zane married as his second wife. The marriage is recorded as Robert Zane married Alice Alday. Some added notes is supposedly they had no children and Robert Zane had a third wife Elizabeth Willis. ----- Original Message ----- From: <JYoung6180@aol.com> To: <njburlin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 2:09 AM Subject: Re: [NJBurlin] *** Burlington Friends Meeting Recorded Record > You might check this site: > > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/delaware/delawarechiefs.htm > > I've certainly never seen that name or any similar name for an Indian > Chief > of any tribe in NJ. > > Joan > > > > In a message dated 8/1/2008 1:29:33 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, t > edrvb@bellsouth.net writes: > > Hi Joan > > I wonder if the information on Sachem ALDAY Chief of the Unami Clan of > the > Lenni-Lenape Tribe is right. And if so did he have anymore children, it > only > speaks of this one daughter, he could have had others that were grown or > lived else where, any it is just a thought but a good one I think. > Thank you until we talk again, peace be with you and yours. > Theodore R. VonBartheld - in Alabama > > > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/NJBURLIN > ********* > Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry NJBURLIN Message Board are > gatewayed to this Mailing List. Remember that the author of gatewayed > messages may not be a list subscriber so please reply to gatewayed > messages by clicking on the link and replying on the board. > ************ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJBURLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Listers, It's been a long while since I've done ANY research on here. This is what I have so far on Sarrah: Sarrah Middleton b) abt 1689 in Burlington Co.,d) 1764 Mansfield Township married Nathan Folwell b) 1673 England m)NO DATE, had these children: some dates are not exact: Nathan 1702-1760 John 1704-1783 Wm 1704-1776 Joseph 1706 George 1712 Hannah 1727-1749 (7th grandmother) I do not have any information about Sarrah and her parents or siblings...or her marriage date. Could anyone help me? Many Thanks ;)     GOD BLESS,          Christine Maguire-Hollars  "May the best you've ever seen, be the worse you'll ever see"                                 Researching the Surnames                        Maguire-Rafferty-McGrath-Riley                                          McAllister-Giese-Aaronson-Thorn-Healy                                                          ----- Original Message ---- From: "JYoung6180@aol.com" <JYoung6180@aol.com> To: njburlin@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 1, 2008 12:42:06 PM Subject: Re: [NJBurlin] *** Burlington Friends Meeting Recorded Record Malcolm- I believe this is incorrect and is probably the basis for the family lore  about the ZANEs having "Indian blood." The record I have for Robert ZANE is that he first married Margaret HAMMOND  in Dublin, Ireland in 1664 and the first son Nathaniel ZANE was born in  Dublin in 1670. Margaret died on the voyage to America and Robert married Alice  ALDAY in 1679. She must have died shortly thereafter because he married  Elizabeth WILLIS in Flushing Long Island in 1681 and in 1682 son Robert was born  in Newton Twp., Gloucester County, NJ. Joan In a message dated 8/1/2008 12:15:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  pvsharp@cox.net writes: In the  "Genealogy of the Stokes Family" by Richard Haines [p. 147] it  shows "...Elizabeth Zane, the dau. of Robert Zane and Jane. Robert was the  son of Robert Zane and Alice Aldy, the progenitors of the Zane  family..." ref:  http://home.comcast.net/~jameslstokes/stogen.htm **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today.      (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/NJBURLIN ********* Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry NJBURLIN Message Board are gatewayed to this Mailing List.  Remember that the author of gatewayed messages may not be a list subscriber so please reply to gatewayed messages by clicking on the link and replying on the board. ************ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJBURLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Another example of what Joan cautions us about is in regard to Mary Carlile, wife of Richard Haines Jr. who was reported to be the daughter of "an Indian Sachem." The following is from Jean Koliha (a Haines descendent) who spoke with Capt. John W. Haines who authored "Richard Haines and His Descendants" --- "He devoted a chapter to Mary pro & con and he did not believe her to be an Indian. He mentioned that a descendant of Mary's described her as having black hair. From then on Mary became an Indian. Capt. Haines also mentioned that there were articles in her inventory (spinning wheels, etc.) that an Indian would not know how to use." Malcolm Schalick Sharp http://sharp.rootsweb.com -----Original Message----- From: njburlin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:njburlin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JYoung6180@aol.com Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 9:03 AM To: njburlin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NJBurlin] *** Burlington Friends Meeting Recorded Record Right off the bat I'd be suspicious of the authenticity of this information in that Native Americans didn't have "princesses." That is strictly a European term and it proves that to some extent the content was filtered to relate European concepts. Everytime we see claims of descent from an "Indian Princess" it raises red flags as to the authenticity. See the RootsWeb Guide lesson on claims of Indian acestry from a "maiden" or "princess." http://rwguide.rootsweb.ancestry.com/lesson25.htm#Native%20American But, yes, I've seen three sources now that all say Alice was a Unami Indian and that she died within a few years of the marriage and had no children with Robert ZANE. Joan In a message dated 8/1/2008 10:52:15 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, margieandpaul@comcast.net writes: This was Sachem Alday of the Unami and this was Princess Alday who Robert Zane married as his second wife. **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/NJBURLIN ********* Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry NJBURLIN Message Board are gatewayed to this Mailing List. Remember that the author of gatewayed messages may not be a list subscriber so please reply to gatewayed messages by clicking on the link and replying on the board. ************ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJBURLIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In the "Genealogy of the Stokes Family" by Richard Haines [p. 147] it shows "...Elizabeth Zane, the dau. of Robert Zane and Jane. Robert was the son of Robert Zane and Alice Aldy, the progenitors of the Zane family..." ref: http://home.comcast.net/~jameslstokes/stogen.htm I descend from Elizabeth (Zane) and Thomas Rakestraw by their daughter Elizabeth [b:?-d:?] who married William Sharp [1770-?] my 4gr-grandparents. Malcolm Schalick Sharp http://sharp.rootsweb.com -----Original Message----- From: njburlin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:njburlin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Margie Anderson Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 7:52 AM To: njburlin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NJBurlin] *** Burlington Friends Meeting Recorded Record In the historic society in Salem, NJ is an old, hard to read book, "The Diary of Captain Robert Zane." It states Robert Zane's first wife died on the way over here. Robert had become very friendly with the Unami clan of the Leni Lenape. Captain Robert Zane was running through the woods up near Burlington, NJ. He came upon a log cabin in the woods and was invited in for a rest and some food by the old man sitting out front. The Captain noticed in the dark corner of the cabin the beautiful daughter of this old man. This was Sachem Alday of the Unami and this was Princess Alday who Robert Zane married as his second wife. The marriage is recorded as Robert Zane married Alice Alday. Some added notes is supposedly they had no children and Robert Zane had a third wife Elizabeth Willis.

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You might check this site: http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/delaware/delawarechiefs.htm I've certainly never seen that name or any similar name for an Indian Chief of any tribe in NJ. Joan In a message dated 8/1/2008 1:29:33 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, t edrvb@bellsouth.net writes: Hi Joan I wonder if the information on Sachem ALDAY Chief of the Unami Clan of the Lenni-Lenape Tribe is right. And if so did he have anymore children, it only speaks of this one daughter, he could have had others that were grown or lived else where, any it is just a thought but a good one I think. Thank you until we talk again, peace be with you and yours. Theodore R. VonBartheld - in Alabama **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)