I found (on Ancestry) an Irnee YOUNG in the 1850 census for Bordentown. My image of the census page is too faint to be legible. Can anyone give me the family group for Irnee Young. If anyone knows anything about this family, would you please let me know? Thanks, Georgia Whitson

As a recently retired Social Worker I know that those records would be very hard to access.I am not sure that a diagnosis from the 1920s or 1930s would tell you much either. There are handicapping conditions that surely existed then that would not be as problematical today.Autism and Asperger's Syndrome spring to mind.Children who were brain damaged at birth or who became handicapped as a result of measles or other communicable diseases could have been "committed" or "placed" there. Other developmentally disabled were often "sacrificed" to the greater good of a large, impoverished family. Some clues can be gotten by looking at the family as it existed then and after. Kathleen Carrow Ingram

Janet: I agree with Barbara. I worked there for several years and my mother retired from there. Perhaps Barbara has the same book that I have.,more or less a history of "The Colony" as many workers referred to it. Personal information would definately be hard to obtain! Cheryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 11:25 AM Subject: Colony for the Febble Minded >I have just found that a first cousin once removed, always thought to have >died as a child, was actually a patient at the NJ State Colony for the >Feeble Minded Male at Woodlands, Burlington, NJ. This was in the 1930 >census. > > Does anyone have information as to what would be classified as > 'feeble-minded', where this institution was located, or anything at all > regarding the institution or its residents? I am unable to locate it or > even find a reference to it. > > Thank you in advance, > Janet in NY > > ______________________________

In a message dated 3/22/2006 6:00:34 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Wow! That's the first time I've heard it called that! Its actual (original) name was "The New Lisbon State Colony for Boys" - but it is now known as the New Lisbon Developmental Center, and is located on Route 72 in Woodland Township. No longer just for men, there are about 72 female residents as well. "Feeble-minded" later became "mentally retarded" but is now the more politically-correct "developmentally disabled". I can give you information about the Center but because HIPAA laws apply retroactively, you won't be able to access any information about residents even that far back in time. I'd like to offer a comment on the applicability of HIPAA to old records. While I'm not an expert on the issue, I have had experience with HIPAA regarding a family health issue, when a hospital declined to provide our physician with records he requested. In dealing with that, I had to go to the published regulations, and read the entire section of the Code of Federal Regulations on HIPAA (45 CFR 164, if you want the exact reference). While it is true that nothing in the regulations refers to exempting records created before a specific date, I suspect that a lawyer would support a position that the regulations could not be applied to records created before HIPAA was passed. As a practical matter, however, I have found that the affected organizations (hospitals, physicians, etc.) often cite HIPAA just to avoid going to the effort of searching their records. That seems to me to be a bluff with little legal support. Certainly, it's unlikely that 75-year-old records would invade the privacy of any living individual. Of course, there might be other reasons not to release such information, such as sealed court records. It's too bad that we're seeing so many laws passed in so many states that make records like that unavailable for legitimate research. Wilson DeCamp Leesburg, VA

Wow! That's the first time I've heard it called that! Its actual (original) name was "The New Lisbon State Colony for Boys" - but it is now known as the New Lisbon Developmental Center, and is located on Route 72 in Woodland Township. No longer just for men, there are about 72 female residents as well. "Feeble-minded" later became "mentally retarded" but is now the more politically-correct "developmentally disabled". I can give you information about the Center but because HIPAA laws apply retroactively, you won't be able to access any information about residents even that far back in time.

I have just found that a first cousin once removed, always thought to have died as a child, was actually a patient at the NJ State Colony for the Feeble Minded Male at Woodlands, Burlington, NJ. This was in the 1930 census. Does anyone have information as to what would be classified as 'feeble-minded', where this institution was located, or anything at all regarding the institution or its residents? I am unable to locate it or even find a reference to it. Thank you in advance, Janet in NY

I am involved with www.waymarking.com a spinoff of www.geocaching.com. At the link below I have posted over 50 waymarks for Historic places in NJ, many in Burlington County. I know there are many more places. A number of them are plaques on the homes of our ancestors - yes they must have a plaque placed by some historical or governmental entity declaring them "historic". Hopefully this will be a new way to find some historic family members house. I just put a dozen or so within Burlington City on the website. A couple were for kin. http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/default.aspx?f=-1&DCTGUID=528f7320-6310-419 5-aed0-f1a10e030049 If you know of any drop me an email with suggested sites - give me who's name is on the plaque, an address and directions please. I will be away from my email until April 4th - so take your time and don't interpret my lack of response as ignoring you. Bill Abrams

Folks- I realize that the message below is 2½ years old, but I will be traveling to Burlington in a week or so and need to get back up to speed. I am trying to hunt down a connection between the David Kinkead below and my ggggf, Joseph Kinkead, born in NJ in 1793, and a John Land Kinkead, perhaps his brother, born in NJ in 1789. There were some girls as well, but I haven't been able to do more than an educated guess at their names. An earlier family researcher did some of this research but he has dropped out of sight and it will be necessary to do it again, I'm afraid. Thanks in advance for any assistance. Dick Kinkead Lantana, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara Sheehy To: Richard N. Kinkead Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [NJBurlin] St. Mary's P. E. Church, Burlington Hi Dick. I have a book, Early Church Records of Burlington County, NJ, Vol.3. In it is says this...."David Kinkead and Mary Land? both of Chester township in the State of New Jersey on the fifth day of May 1787". The section this snippet falls under is, Records of St. Ann's Church (St. Mary's). Hope this helps. Barbara Sheehy

Dear Carol and Anita - your correspondence is very interesting to me. John "Selpath" (which is really Silpath) and Rebecca Thompson were my 8th grandparents. I have been trying to find out more about Rebecca and her family but haven't had much luck. I especially want to know about John and Rebecca's children. I have that Rebecca and John raised Rebecca's sister, Elizabeth's, daughter Acky but I don't know much more than that. Any information that you could share would be greatly appreciated. I am trying to patch the gaps in the Silpath line. Thank you! Suzanne Moller [email protected] Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > [Original Message] > From: Carol Payne <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 3/11/2006 12:57:37 PM > Subject: Re: [NJBurlin] Records of the West Proprietors > > Anita, > I know that Rebecca Thompson was the 7th child of John Thompson and > Elizabeth Staples, and born in Mansfield Township, Burlington County, NJ, > about 1736.... > > I also know that in that same marriage source, on pg 404, there is a record > for "John Selpath, Mansfield, and Rebecca Thompson, Burlington, 1761 Dec 15" > > Since Rebecca is not my "direct" line, I have not yet delved into the > situation very thoroughly. I was inclined to believe Henry Delatush was the > correct husband because his name shows up as a witness on several documents > for this family. However, John Selpath also turns up as a witness on the > marriage bond for Rebecca's brother, Uriah Thompson. So, I honestly don't > know which is the correct husband yet. > > I can give you Rebecca's family back to Henry Thompson who arrived in 1684, > but I have not yet researcher her beyond the husband question. > > May I ask why you have a Rebecca Thompson in your files?.... are we > connected? > > Carol > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anita G Clayton" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 11:28 AM > Subject: Re: [NJBurlin] Records of the West Proprietors > > > > Carol, > > > > I noticed the Thompson in Mansfield, Burlington county. > > > > I have a Rebecca Thompson married to Henry Delatush (also many spelling > > variations) - > > From New Jersey Marriages Colonial Era 1665-1800, vol XXII page 105 Henry > > Delatush Burlington, to Rebecca Thomspson 1761 Dec 15 > > Do you know anything about her? > > Anita > > > > > > On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 10:25:34 -0600 "Carol Payne" <[email protected]> > > writes: > > > Hello Everyone! > > > > > > My 8th great grandfather came to America in 1684. In the NJ Sec of > > > State > > > Archives is the Calendar of Records of the Secretary of State, > > > 1664-1703 > > > [this is the Secretary for West Jersey in Burlington County]. In > > > Libra A, > > > page 155 of those records.... > > > > > > 1684 Dec. 1. "The names of such p'sons as were imported into this > > > province > > > and brought to bee Registered in the Secretary's books of Records > > > are as > > > follows: > > > Upon Accompt of Governor Lawrie:..... > > > Upon Accompt of Wm Haige:..... > > > Upon the Accompt of such of the Proprietors as belongs to > > > Scotland:..... > > > Upon the Accompt of Wm Dockwra:..... > > > Upon the Accompt of John Barclay:....." > > > > > > Under the account of Wm Dockwra is listed my Henry THOMPSON as > > > Indentured > > > for 7 years. > > > > > > I know that the "allotment of land" for Henry, per The Concessions > > > and > > > Agreements, was in Mansfield Township, Burlington County, (West) New > > > Jersey. > > > > > > I know that "accompt" means "account", and that Wm Dockwra was > > > given > > > "credit" for Henry and each of the 22 other persons he sent to > > > America to > > > help "more speedily promote" the planting of the Province. > > > > > > What I don't understand is the "Indentured for 7 years" part of all > > > this. > > > Does Henry owe the cost of his passage to Wm Dockwra? - or do the > > > West > > > Proprietors owe the money to Wm Dockwra, who was an East > > > Proprietor? > > > > > > Henry's "indenture of 7 years" would have ended in 1691, but (I > > > assume > > > because of all the fuss over boundary lines, etc.), he did not > > > receive his > > > Warranty Deed for the land until 1710. The Warranty Deed/Land > > > Indenture > > > indicates that the land originally belonged to a Hugh Hutchin. > > > Could Hugh > > > Hutchin have been the one who paid "the debt" to Wm Dockwra? > > > > > > I would like to know the "who, what, when and how" of this "7 year > > > indenture". I assume the information would be in the records of the > > > West > > > Proprietors. Does anyone know where those records are and how I > > > can > > > research them? > > > > > > Carol Payne in Oklahoma [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hello David, I assume by "is the quotation you gave" you are referring to "The names of such p'sons as were imported...". What I have is a photocopy (on 11" x 17" paper) of the original handwritten entry made in the Secretary's book (Libra A, page 155) - plus a photocopy from a book "Documents Relating to the Colonial History of the State of New Jersey, Vol. VVI," (pgs 61 & 62), which is a published printed transcription of "New Jersey Colonial Documents / East Jersey Deeds, etc., Libra A". (I believe these are William A. Whitehead's books.) I also have photo copies (on 11" x 17" paper) of the original handwritten land indentures from "N.J. Sec of State Archives, Libra D, pg 54-55; Libra D, pg 56, and Libra D, pg 57". These land indentures were "selected" for me by Bette Epstein of the NJ Archives (I assume from an index of some sort) when I inquired about what land had been "allotted" to my Henry Thompson. They were not translated/transcribed, and I spent many a night learning to read "old English script"!! The 3 land indentures are between Henry Thompson and (1) Nathan Holwell on May 4, 1710; (2) Hugh Hutchin on June 10, 1710; and (3) Joshua Smith on October 8, 1724. All of the indentures state "Henry Thompson of Mansfield Township of the County of Burlington...". This tells me that Henry didn't just decide to move there from somewhere else. It's the 2nd one that states: ".... thirty and four acres of land being that land whereon the said Henry Thompson now Dwells having been part of the present allotment of him the said Hugh Hutchin....". Since, as you say, Hugh Hutchin was an early Proprietor and there are many "transactions" involving his name, my thought was that perhaps Mr. Hutchin and Mr. Dockwra had struck some kind of debt swapping deal.... so I would (I guess) have to follow the property from Mr. Hutchin's back to see how he obtained it in the first place.... In the meantime, I was thinking the Account Books of the West Proprietors might tell me whether Henry paid his debt to Mr. Dockwra or Mr. Hutchins.... I appreciate you trying to help! All thoughts and ideas are most welcomed! The question now is, did I answer your question?.... Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: "Carol Payne" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [NJ] Records of the West Proprietors > Howdy Carol - love your question. But have one of my own. > > The quotation you made is correct, and if I read how other entries of > indenture > are written, persons brought into the 'colony' by another were often > indentured > for a certain number of years based on the cost of their passage. > > My question to you then is, is the quotation you gave, from a single document > you own, or is it from the 'Records' volume. > > Hugh HUTCHINS was a busy man, buying and selling property for a good length of > time, and in different parts of the state. > > Since I have the book, I've been reading through all the different > transactions > which is how I came to my conclusion. Henry Thompson, unfortunately is only > mentioned the one time, on page 62. But then again these records of deeds, > etc., don't go past 1703. > > If you don't have the book, perhaps I can help. Maybe not too, since > the dated > limits of this book (1703) don't reveal what land changed hands till > your Henry > received his in 1710. Perhaps, between this volume and wills book 1, which > covers 1670-1730, there might be enough of a trail of deeded lands in will > abstracts to show how the land finally came to Henry. > > I don't know. Just grasping in hopes of trying to help. You know me. > > David - [email protected] > >

Maryann, I found the records partly through "luck" and mostly with the help of the infamous Bette M. Epstein at the New Jersey Archives. My Thompson family was apparently first researched early in the 1900s. The family tree was then "maintained" and updated every year at the family reunions. By the time I became addicted to genealogy in 2001, I had over 300 years of names and dates and notes to start with. However, there was no documentation.... Except.... a handwritten copy/translation of the Will for Henry Thompson, and in the margin was the note, "Copy of Will of Henry Thompson File 2873 C, N.J. Sec of States". I "googled" New Jersey Secretary of State, discovered the Archives, sent an email to the head librarian, and have been on a roll ever since. Check out http://www.state.nj.us/state/darm/links/reference.html and if I can be of further assistance, just let me know. Carol Payne in Oklahoma [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: maryann clark To: Carol Payne Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [NJ] Records of the West Proprietors Dear Carol, I was wondering how you found the information on him so far back intime ( 1684) ? I am having trouble getting that far back. Thankyou, Maryann Clark Carol Payne <[email protected]> wrote: Hello Everyone! My 8th great grandfather came to America in 1684. In the NJ Sec of State Archives is the Calendar of Records of the Secretary of State, 1664-1703 [this is the Secretary for West Jersey in Burlington County]. In Libra A, page 155 of those records.... 1684 Dec. 1. "The names of such p'sons as were imported into this province and brought to bee Registered in the Secretary's books of Records are as follows: Upon Accompt of Governor Lawrie:..... Upon Accompt of Wm Haige:..... Upon the Accompt of such of the Proprietors as belongs to Scotland:..... Upon the Accompt of Wm Dockwra:..... Upon the Accompt of John Barclay:....." Under the account of Wm Dockwra is listed my Henry THOMPSON as Indentured for 7 years. I know that the "allotment of land" for Henry, per The Concessions and Agreements, was in Mansfield Township, Burlington County, (West) New Jersey. I know that "accompt" means "account", and that Wm Dockwra was given "credit" for Henry and each of the 22 other persons he sent to America to help "more speedily promote" the planting of the Province. What I don't understand is the "Indentured for 7 years" part of all this. Does Henry owe the cost of his passage to Wm Dockwra? - or do the West Proprietors owe the money to Wm Dockwra, who was an East Proprietor? Henry's "indenture of 7 years" would have ended in 1691, but (I assume because of all the fuss over boundary lines, etc.), he did not receive his Warranty Deed for the land until 1710. The Warranty Deed/Land Indenture indicates that the land originally belonged to a Hugh Hutchin. Could Hugh Hutchin have been the one who paid "the debt" to Wm Dockwra? I would like to know the "who, what, when and how" of this "7 year indenture". I assume the information would be in the records of the West Proprietors. Does anyone know where those records are and how I can research them? Carol Payne in Oklahoma [email protected] ==== NJ Mailing List ==== To post messages to the NJ-L discussion list, send them to [email protected] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses!

True, however this may be a slightly unusual situation. Wm Dockwra was a wealthy and renown East Jersey proprietor. He was known to have taken an active part in promoting immigration to the province through "contributions" of money, and by sending over settlers on his own account. In addition, I find it unusual for an East Jersey proprietor to send settlers to West Jersey. With all the "wheeling and dealing" that was happening at that time, I'm wondering if the actual account records might indicate something different since Henry didn't work on land owned by Wm Dockwra, and since the Warranty Deed Henry finally received indicates the property was previously owned by a Hugh Hutchin. Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Hadlund" <[email protected]> To: "Carol Payne" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [NJ] Records of the West Proprietors > If I remember my history correctly, an indentured servant worked off their > debt to the person who sponsored their passage to the new world from Europe. > > Mark > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carol Payne" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 10:25 AM > Subject: [NJ] Records of the West Proprietors > > > > Hello Everyone! > > > > My 8th great grandfather came to America in 1684. In the NJ Sec of State > > Archives is the Calendar of Records of the Secretary of State, 1664-1703 > > [this is the Secretary for West Jersey in Burlington County]. In Libra A, > > page 155 of those records.... > > > > 1684 Dec. 1. "The names of such p'sons as were imported into this > > province > > and brought to bee Registered in the Secretary's books of Records are as > > follows: > > Upon Accompt of Governor Lawrie:..... > > Upon Accompt of Wm Haige:..... > > Upon the Accompt of such of the Proprietors as belongs to Scotland:..... > > Upon the Accompt of Wm Dockwra:..... > > Upon the Accompt of John Barclay:....." > > > > Under the account of Wm Dockwra is listed my Henry THOMPSON as Indentured > > for 7 years. > > > > I know that the "allotment of land" for Henry, per The Concessions and > > Agreements, was in Mansfield Township, Burlington County, (West) New > > Jersey. > > > > I know that "accompt" means "account", and that Wm Dockwra was given > > "credit" for Henry and each of the 22 other persons he sent to America to > > help "more speedily promote" the planting of the Province. > > > > What I don't understand is the "Indentured for 7 years" part of all this. > > Does Henry owe the cost of his passage to Wm Dockwra? - or do the West > > Proprietors owe the money to Wm Dockwra, who was an East Proprietor? > > > > Henry's "indenture of 7 years" would have ended in 1691, but (I assume > > because of all the fuss over boundary lines, etc.), he did not receive his > > Warranty Deed for the land until 1710. The Warranty Deed/Land Indenture > > indicates that the land originally belonged to a Hugh Hutchin. Could Hugh > > Hutchin have been the one who paid "the debt" to Wm Dockwra? > > > > I would like to know the "who, what, when and how" of this "7 year > > indenture". I assume the information would be in the records of the West > > Proprietors. Does anyone know where those records are and how I can > > research them? > > > > Carol Payne in Oklahoma [email protected] > > > > > > > > ==== NJ Mailing List ==== > > To post messages to the NJ-L discussion list, send them to > > [email protected] > > > >

Anita, I know that Rebecca Thompson was the 7th child of John Thompson and Elizabeth Staples, and born in Mansfield Township, Burlington County, NJ, about 1736.... I also know that in that same marriage source, on pg 404, there is a record for "John Selpath, Mansfield, and Rebecca Thompson, Burlington, 1761 Dec 15" Since Rebecca is not my "direct" line, I have not yet delved into the situation very thoroughly. I was inclined to believe Henry Delatush was the correct husband because his name shows up as a witness on several documents for this family. However, John Selpath also turns up as a witness on the marriage bond for Rebecca's brother, Uriah Thompson. So, I honestly don't know which is the correct husband yet. I can give you Rebecca's family back to Henry Thompson who arrived in 1684, but I have not yet researcher her beyond the husband question. May I ask why you have a Rebecca Thompson in your files?.... are we connected? Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anita G Clayton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [NJBurlin] Records of the West Proprietors > Carol, > > I noticed the Thompson in Mansfield, Burlington county. > > I have a Rebecca Thompson married to Henry Delatush (also many spelling > variations) - > From New Jersey Marriages Colonial Era 1665-1800, vol XXII page 105 Henry > Delatush Burlington, to Rebecca Thomspson 1761 Dec 15 > Do you know anything about her? > Anita > > > On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 10:25:34 -0600 "Carol Payne" <[email protected]> > writes: > > Hello Everyone! > > > > My 8th great grandfather came to America in 1684. In the NJ Sec of > > State > > Archives is the Calendar of Records of the Secretary of State, > > 1664-1703 > > [this is the Secretary for West Jersey in Burlington County]. In > > Libra A, > > page 155 of those records.... > > > > 1684 Dec. 1. "The names of such p'sons as were imported into this > > province > > and brought to bee Registered in the Secretary's books of Records > > are as > > follows: > > Upon Accompt of Governor Lawrie:..... > > Upon Accompt of Wm Haige:..... > > Upon the Accompt of such of the Proprietors as belongs to > > Scotland:..... > > Upon the Accompt of Wm Dockwra:..... > > Upon the Accompt of John Barclay:....." > > > > Under the account of Wm Dockwra is listed my Henry THOMPSON as > > Indentured > > for 7 years. > > > > I know that the "allotment of land" for Henry, per The Concessions > > and > > Agreements, was in Mansfield Township, Burlington County, (West) New > > Jersey. > > > > I know that "accompt" means "account", and that Wm Dockwra was > > given > > "credit" for Henry and each of the 22 other persons he sent to > > America to > > help "more speedily promote" the planting of the Province. > > > > What I don't understand is the "Indentured for 7 years" part of all > > this. > > Does Henry owe the cost of his passage to Wm Dockwra? - or do the > > West > > Proprietors owe the money to Wm Dockwra, who was an East > > Proprietor? > > > > Henry's "indenture of 7 years" would have ended in 1691, but (I > > assume > > because of all the fuss over boundary lines, etc.), he did not > > receive his > > Warranty Deed for the land until 1710. The Warranty Deed/Land > > Indenture > > indicates that the land originally belonged to a Hugh Hutchin. > > Could Hugh > > Hutchin have been the one who paid "the debt" to Wm Dockwra? > > > > I would like to know the "who, what, when and how" of this "7 year > > indenture". I assume the information would be in the records of the > > West > > Proprietors. Does anyone know where those records are and how I > > can > > research them? > > > > Carol Payne in Oklahoma [email protected] > > > > > > > > >

Hello Everyone! My 8th great grandfather came to America in 1684. In the NJ Sec of State Archives is the Calendar of Records of the Secretary of State, 1664-1703 [this is the Secretary for West Jersey in Burlington County]. In Libra A, page 155 of those records.... 1684 Dec. 1. "The names of such p'sons as were imported into this province and brought to bee Registered in the Secretary's books of Records are as follows: Upon Accompt of Governor Lawrie:..... Upon Accompt of Wm Haige:..... Upon the Accompt of such of the Proprietors as belongs to Scotland:..... Upon the Accompt of Wm Dockwra:..... Upon the Accompt of John Barclay:....." Under the account of Wm Dockwra is listed my Henry THOMPSON as Indentured for 7 years. I know that the "allotment of land" for Henry, per The Concessions and Agreements, was in Mansfield Township, Burlington County, (West) New Jersey. I know that "accompt" means "account", and that Wm Dockwra was given "credit" for Henry and each of the 22 other persons he sent to America to help "more speedily promote" the planting of the Province. What I don't understand is the "Indentured for 7 years" part of all this. Does Henry owe the cost of his passage to Wm Dockwra? - or do the West Proprietors owe the money to Wm Dockwra, who was an East Proprietor? Henry's "indenture of 7 years" would have ended in 1691, but (I assume because of all the fuss over boundary lines, etc.), he did not receive his Warranty Deed for the land until 1710. The Warranty Deed/Land Indenture indicates that the land originally belonged to a Hugh Hutchin. Could Hugh Hutchin have been the one who paid "the debt" to Wm Dockwra? I would like to know the "who, what, when and how" of this "7 year indenture". I assume the information would be in the records of the West Proprietors. Does anyone know where those records are and how I can research them? Carol Payne in Oklahoma [email protected]

Just came across an interesting site for those interested in NJ History. http://www.njpinelandsanddownjersey.com On main menu scroll down to Historical e-books. Besides books on the history of NJ there is the Beers Atlas (1872) which is a good source for people looking for towns, townships, etc. You will need to download the free viewer for the Atlas. Just to save you some looking in the Atlas p. 23 gives names of towns and which township they are in. Burlington Co. map is on p. 81. -- Doris

There is nothing in Burlington County Marriages by H. Stanley Criag on this marriage. Jim Stokes Family Web Page http://home.comcast.net/~jameslstokes Carol Payne <[email protected]> wrote: Hello Listmembers, Does anyone know where I might find the Marriage and Birth records for the Burlington MM (possibly the Philadelphia MM), for the early 1700s (possibly late 1600s)? I have inquired of the NJ State Archives and I have looked at all listings and abstracts that I can find, and I am now convinced the only place left is in the actual Quaker meeting records. Henry Thompson/Thomson's arrival via Philadelphia, was recorded in the NJ Sec of State books on 1 December 1684. He was indentured on the accounts of Wm Dockwra for 7 years. He was given/obtained land in Mansfield Twp, Burlington Co., and there are indentures for additional, adjoining land in 1710 and 1724. He wrote his Will in 1732, and died in 1735. His Will mentions his wife "Elizabeth Thomson" and his four children - John, Thomas, Dinah Hobson, and Rebecca Quest. Earlier researchers say his wife was Elizabeth HAMMEL, but I have yet to find any "proof". And, I can find no birth records for any of the children, although I have found marriage records for 3 of them. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Carol Payne in Oklahoma [email protected] --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.

Hi Susan and All I found the search box from this site: http://www.haverford.edu/library/special/genealogy/ Martha

Good Morning Groupies, I found a site that has a huge collection of Quaker Records: http://www2.haverford.edu/htdig/htdignew/welcome.html The url above is the search site for Haverford College, Good Luck and have fun Martha A Crosley Graham Currently researching the Croshaw Family of New Jersey, Pennsylvania and Ohio

ADMIN NOTE: The original poster of this message is Susanne Gruenwald <[email protected]>. However, the mailing list software does not like her email address because it starts with "[email protected]", so I had to forward it to the list. Please direct any replies to the message board or to Susanne directly. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/oQB.2ACE/1523 Message Board Post: Hello, still trying to get in contact with living relatives I am looking for descendants of Barbara Miller, nee Zwick. At the time of her brothers obit (John G. Jr. ZWICK) she was living in Vincentown. Parents of Barbara and John G. were: John George Zwick and Barbara Ullrich from New York. Any information would be appreciated! Susanne

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/oQB.2ACE/1526 Message Board Post: Looking for any information -- reference books, family stories, etc. - regarding the farm and family of Samuel C. & Martha DeCou in Chesterfield Twp, Burlington County, NJ? I believe that at least two of my ancestors (Martin Grady and his daughter, Bridget Grady) lived/worked at that farm shortly after their immigration from Ireland in or about 1870. Any information would be greatly appreciated!