Hi Judy, Good to hear from you again! Knowing positively, though I really suspected as much, that the John I'm looking for was not the same John who was married to Abigail VanBlarcon is a big help. Part of my dilemma comes from knowing that in 1860 David Wanamaker, his wife Maria Smith (my 3x's great grandparents) and their daughter were enumerated with a Hannah Smith, who happened to be a nearby neighbor of Adam Folley and his family but not knowing how this Hannah was related. My goal is actually trying to figure out Maria's parents. Garret A. Smith and Rachel Hopper had a daughter Maria, who married Jacob Valentine. Edward Smith and Annetje (Annie) Tebow had a daughter Maria but she and her parents drop completely out of the records I have found after her sister Abigail was born, unless of course she turns out to be my Maria. I honestly was half convinced she was until I rediscovered that census record showing Maria and family with Hannah Smith. I know somewhere there is going to be a little piece of information that will lead me to the rest. You have shared so much with me, maybe the following information will help you. Here are the wills of two Hannah Smiths. The first I believe to be Hannah Folley Smith, she was the wife of John Smith. The second is Hannah Fisher Smith, second wife of Albert Smith, brother of John A Smith. In the name of God, Amen: I Hannah Smith now of the city of Paterson in the County of Passaic and State of New Jersey and the widow of John Smith, Late of the County of Bergen, now deceased....this is my last will and testament. Item I give and Bequeath unto my Grand Daughter Mary Banghart the wife of George Banghart of the City of Paterson....all my Lands, Tenemants, Hereditaments and Real Estate whatsoever and wheresoever, and all my Right, Title and Interest in any real estate whatsoever which I may have or be entitled to at the time of my Decease either in Law or Equity. Together with all my Goods and Chatels, personal property or money's which have heretofore been devised to me by Will by any and every person or persons whatsoever, which I am now entitled to or which I may be possessed of at the time of my Decease. And Lastly, I do hereby appoint my trusty friend George Banghart Executor of this my Last Will and Testament. Signed, Sealed, published and declared by the said Hannah Smith to be her Last Will and Testament in the presence of us this twenty sixth day of January A.D. Eighteen hundred and sixty. Erasure on first page and Word Granddaughter written over before execution 1850 census, page 151 District no. 17 Wayne Township, Passaic County, New Jersey Date: 22 July 1850 by Wm W Colfax 98/99 Peter A Smith, age 50, M, Farmer, NJ Sarah Smith, age 47, F, NJ Peter Smith Jr, 25, M, NJ Albert A Smith, 18, M, NJ Elizabeth Smith, 17, F, NJ Martha A Smith, 10, F, NJ 101/102 George W Banghart, 32, M, Laborer, NJ Mary Ann Banghart, 26, F, NJ John H Banghart, 10, M, NJ Martha A Banghart, 7, F, NJ The will of Hannah Fisher Smith: In the name of God Amen i Hannah Smith of the township of Hokokus County of Bergen and State of New Jersey, Being of sound minde memory and understanding...Also to provide for me and my first husband each a pair of Grave Stones worth fifty dollars a pair (item 1) I give and bequeath to my brother Michael Fisher the sum of five thousand Dollars (item 2) I give and bequeath to Rachael May wife of David May the sum of five hundred dollars (item 3) I give and bequeath to Maria Acker widow of Peter Acker the sum of two Hundred Dollars (item 4) I give and bequeath to Catherine Smith widow of Peter Smith the sum of two Hundred Dollars (item 5) I give and bequeath to Elizabeth wife of Garret Linkunn (Lincoln??) the sum of two Hundred Dollars (item 6) I give and bequeath to David Fisher son of my brother David two Hundred Dollars (item 7) I give and bequeath to ??? any Fisher son of my brother David the sum of two Hundred Dollars (item 8) I give and bequeath to John A Smith the sum of six Hundred and sixty six Dollars (item 8) I give and bequeath to Garret A Smith the sum of six Hundred and sixty six Dollars (item 9) I give and bequeath to Cornelius A Smith the sum of Six Hundred and sixty six Dollars (item 10) I give and bequeath to William Christopher the sum of one Hundred Dollars (item 11) I give and bequeath to Sally Smith wife of Peter Smith the sum of one Hundred Dollars (item 12) I give and bequeath to Elin granddaughter of Catherine Fisher the sum of one Hundred Dollars the said money to remain in the hands of my executors until the said Elin shall arrive at the age of eighteen and the executors shall be accountable for all the interest that Shall accrue on the same (item 13) I give and bequeath to Elizabeth daughter of Cornelius Quackenbush the sum of one Hundred Dollars the said money to remain in the hands of my executors...etc. (item 14) I give and bequeath to Susen Smith my best silk shall (item 15) I give and bequeath the remainder of wearing Appearil to my two sisters viz Mariah and Catherine each and equel share (item 16) if there is any surplus of money Left after paying all the Above Legacies then it must go to the Above Legatees each in proportion to what they are given Above (item 17) I give and bequeath to Michael Fisher, John A Smith, Garret A Smith,Cornelius A Smith All the hay and grain and householde furniture i am possessed of at the time of my Death to be equelly Divided betwean them share and share alike, and Lastley i Constitute and Appoint John A Smith, Garret A Smith, Cornelius A Smith Executors of this my Last will and testanent In witness whereoff i have hereunto set my hand and seal this seventeenth Day of March in the year of our Lord one thousand eight Hundred and sixty four signed sealed published and Declared by the said Hannah Smith to be her Last will and testanat in the presence of us who have here?? subscribed our names as witnessis the presence of the testant and of each athe(??) the words of money interlined in the twelfth Line before singing and sealing the same Levi Hopper, Jane Winter I hope the above information is a helpful addition to your records. 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Sue -- Thank you for posting those Smith wills. I have been following this discussion, but so far have had little to add, so haven't posted. I think I can identify the Hannah Fisher who married Albert Smith (and who was the author of one of those wills). Here is her family as I have it (I would appreciate any additions, corrections, etc.) -- Pat ------------------------- David Fisher, son of Michael Fisher & Maria -?-, m. Elizabeth (Achenbach?), dau. of (prob) John George Achenbach & Annatje Van Buskirk David Fisher was b. about 1764; d. after 13 April 1826; before 5 Jan 1827 prob. Ramsey, Franklin Twp., Bergen Co., NJ Elizabeth Achenbach was b. 3 June 1764; d. between 1 Nov 1854 & 24 May 1855 age 90, prob. Ramsey, Hohokus Twp. Her funeral was from the Saddle River Lutheran Church, after 1 November 1854 and before 24 May 1855.1 The will of David Fisher, (weak of body) of the Township of Franklin, was dated 13 April 1826 and proven 9 January 1827 in Bergen County. He mentioned first that he wished to receive a good Christian burial and that all his debts and funeral expenses be paid. Wife Elizabeth in addition to her dower rights was to receive the use of all household goods and furniture, during her widowhood, (except those herein disposed of). Sons Michael and David all tenements and real estate (subject to the right of dower of my wife, their mother). If they want to divide the land, David to have the tract with the old homestead. "Michael to have his share of apples from out of the orchard till he shall have apples of his own." Sons to receive all horses, wagons, harnesses, and other farming utensils and stock (except wool wife shall want for her use). Three daughters Maria, Hannah, and Catharine $15.00 each, one year after my death paid by sons. Remainder after death of wife to five children share and share alike. The executors were his trusty friends Christian Wanamaker and John Mandingo and the witnesses were Peter Westervelt and David Christie (signed with his mark). David Fisher signed with his mark.[David Fisher will (1827), Bergen County Will Book C: 169.]1 Since the daughters received only a small amount of money, and no outsets were mentioned, it is very likely that they were all already married and had received their shares; their husband's have not been identified.1 The old homestead, was undoubtedly the property in Franklin Township, David had inherited from his father Michael Fisher's will dated 6 January 1802 and probated 9 June 1802. From that will David inherited "the south part of my farm, being the part on which I now dwell, per survey by John D. Harin[g], on March 15, 1796" also "all my horses, horned cattle, sheep and live stock; bed, cupboard, wagon, weaving loom and other utensils." [Michael Fisher Will (1802) New Jersey Will 3229B.] His brother Michael was to receive the other half of the property, and the two of them were to pay their five brothers or their heirs and one sister $15 each. After the death of Mary all were to share equally in the estate.[Michael Fisher probate file (1802) No. 176, Bergen County Surrogate's office.]1 ---children of David Fisher & Elizabeth Achenbach: * Maria Fisher, b. about 1780--1811 * Hannah Fisher, b. about 1780-1811; d. after 17 March 1864; m. (1) -?-; m. (2) Albert Smith * Catherine Fisher (Catriena), b. about 1780-1811 (about 1888?); m. (poss) 9 Apr 1808 Kakiat Ref Ch, Peter Smith * Michael Fisher, b. about 1799-1800; m. Helena May (Ellen; Eleanor) * David Fisher, b. about May 1801; d. 24 Feb 1852 ae 50.9.-; buried Island Road Ref Chyd, Mahwah, NJ; m. Catherine May (Caty) ---Sources: [1] Information posted online Jan 2007 <nyrockla@rootsweb.com> by Maria (Ree) Hopper <reetree@optonline.net>; Marriage Records of the Reformed Dutch Church of West New Hempstead, New York 1774-1898, also known as "Kakiat" and presently referred to as "Brick Church" online at <http://www.dutchdoorgenealogy.com/> -- Pat & Walter Wardell Englewood, FL the.wardells@gte.net