With grateful thanks to Ethel Konight and Pat Wardell, I am pleased to announce that a portion of the Overseers of the Poor records for Franklin Township, Bergen Co., NJ is now available on Dutch Door Genealogy. They're under Civil Records as 1787 Overseers of the Poor Records, then Negro Abandonments. As of 1804 in NJ, children born of a slave mother were not slaves. However the child had to be registered with the town, which would then pay the slave owner for the care of the child - boys were bound till age 25 and girls to age 21. I find it hard to believe that the town would pay when someone was of an age to be a working benefit to the slave owner, but the law as quoted does not specify. Would the owner of the slave get work from the slave's child *plus* be paid by the town for the same child? I'd love to know more about how paupers, pauper children, orphans, and these free/but-not-really negro children were regarded by the civil authorities, and hope that if you have information, you'll chime in. Regina Haring http://www.dutchdoorgenealogy.com

With grateful thanks to Ethel Konight and Pat Wardell, I am pleased to announce that a portion of the Overseers of the Poor records for Franklin Township, Bergen Co., NJ is now available on Dutch Door Genealogy. They're under Civil Records as 1787 Overseers of the Poor Records, then Negro Abandonments. As of 1804 in NJ, children born of a slave mother were not slaves. However the child had to be registered with the town, which would then pay the slave owner for the care of the child - boys were bound till age 25 and girls to age 21. I find it hard to believe that the town would pay when someone was of an age to be a working benefit to the slave owner, but the law as quoted does not specify. Would the owner of the slave get work from the slave's child *plus* be paid by the town for the same child? I'd love to know more about how paupers, pauper children, orphans, and these free/but-not-really negro children were regarded by the civil authorities, and hope that if you have information, you'll chime in. Regina Haring http://www.dutchdoorgenealogy.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jimturse Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/1768.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Wow,Shirley, small world! Nice to see that you picked up on this. Don't know that the lady who originally posted the inquiry noticed, but amazing that you found it. Can you post a reply on Ancestry directly to her? I think you just posted to my follow-up on the thread. Thank you for finding me. Please contact me directly at kimotee(insert @)turse.org to follow-up. Jim Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: shirleydesrochers Surnames: Yeo Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/1768.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Jimmy I am Shirley Yeo your old neighbor from Park Ridge. I just want to say hello and how are you? I did have an uncle names Uncle Charles Yeo from England. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: hudeky Surnames: Terry and Lohsen Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3303/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for any information on a George Terry born in England about 1853 and died in Jersey City, New Jersey about 1905. These dates are not definite. The birth date was obtained from the 1900 census and the death date by a recollection of how old someone was when he died so I am not sure of them. He married Sophia Lohsen and had 7 children (George, Maud or Martha, Harold, Franklin, Ida May, Jennie and Anna). I believe 2 of them, George and Maud or Martha may have been from a previous wife. Verbal history is that he was hit by a street car in Jersey City, New Jersey about 1905. The 1900 census says he was in this country since the age of 5 in 1858. I find no immigration record to match. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Has anyone run across this name in NYC or Bergen County, NJ after the Revolution? Here's what little data I have found -- de Rottenbourgh, William Earnest (Baron) (Van Rottenburgh) William Earnest de Rottenbourgh, m. Louise Henriette Williamos About March 1789, a note appears in the Records of the Overseers of the Poor, Franklin Township, Bergen County, NJ -- By Cash paid Lawyer Wade to plead against Baron Van Rottenburgh £0.12.0. Baron de Rottenbourgh and his wife, Louise Henriette de Rottenbourgh, nee Williamos, and a prob. relative, Philip Auguste Hennequin de Rottenbourgh, were naturalized in the State of New York between 6 Feb 1788 and 12 Apr 1792 Bergen Co. Deed (F:205, 23 Mar 1790): Bergen County ss: State of New Jersey to our Sheriff of our County of Bergen. (LS) Greeting we command you that of the goods and chattels, lands and tenements in your Bailiwick of William Earnest Baron Van Rottenburgh you cause to be made as well a certain debt of 25 pounds, 7 shillings & 7 pence proclamation money of New Jersey which Peter Tebow lately in our inferior Court of Common Pleas at New Barbadoes in and for Co. Bergen recovered against him as also 6 pounds two shillings and 3 pence like money which in our said Court before the judges aforesaid were adjudged to the said Peter for his damages which he hath sustained as well as occasion of the detaining that debt as for his costs and charges by him about his suit in that behalf expended wereof the said William Earnest Baron Van Rottenburgh is convicted as appears of record and have you those monies before the Judges aforesaid at New Barbadoes aforesaid the second Tuesday in June next to render unto the said Peter for his debt and damages aforesaid and have you then there this write. Witness Peter Haring, Esq. Judge of our said Court at New Barbadoes aforesaid the 23rd day of March in the year of our Lord 1790. Wade Atty. Wade Clerk. ---Sources: "New York Naturalizations, 1789" in NYG&B Record, Jan 1981, p. 17; Bergen Co. Deed F:205; Records of the Overseers of the Poor, Franklin Township, Bergen Co., NJ Thanks. Pat

I've "rescued" three old photographs belonging to the GILDERSLEEVE and PRATT Families. The first two photographs are of Johanna Frances GILDERSLEEVE PRATT and were taken at the Hamilton Studio in Laredo, Texas. They are identical photographs one with the date, Jan 28 1898 and the other Jan 25 1898 with one noting that Johanna is 62 years old at the time the photograph was taken. One of the photographs also identifies her as "Mrs. H. B. PRATT of Laredo, TX". The third photograph is one of Paul PRATT Jr. and was taken at the Campbell & Co. Studio in Richmond, Virginia. This photograph was probably taken in the 1890's with Paul noted as 2 1/2 months old at the time the photograph was taken. There is also another photograph which I believe may be connected to this family, it is one of Louise WYLIE taken at a studio in Columbia, South Carolina with indications that Louise's Mother was a PRATT by birth. Based on limited research I was able to gather the following information regarding the family: Joanna Frances GILDERSLEEVE b. 25 Jan 1836 in Charleston, SC to parents Benjamin GILDERSLEEVE (b. 5 Jan 1791 in New Canaan, CT) and Emma Louisa LANNEAU (b. 24 Feb 1804 in Charleston, SC). Joanna married Reverend Henry Barrington PRATT (b. 26 May 1832 in Darien, GA) on 7 Nov 1860 in Richmond, VA and together they had 7 children including, Benjamin Gildersleeve; Catherine "Kate" Studwick; Louise "Lou" Gildersleeve; Paul; Maria Howard; Henry Basil; and Juanita PRATT all born between 1862 and 1875 in Hillsboro, NC; Sugar Creek, NC; and Columbia South America. Joanna died 13 Aug 1904 in Portsmouth, VA. Paul J. PRATT Jr. b. 2 Sept 1894 in Richmond, VA to parents Paul J. PRATT and Belle Algeo NEWELL. Paul married Adelaide ELY on 29 Jan 1914 in Rutherford, NJ and he died 16 Jul 1967 in Lake Worth, FL. Census records provide the following information regarding the family: 1900 census of Washington Township, NJ: Paul PRATT, age 31, born Aug 1868, married 8 years, born NC, parentds born GA/SC, a Farmer Belle PRATT, wife, age 32, born Dec 1867, married 8 years, 5 children/4 living, born MD, parents born Ireland/England Paul PRATT, son, age 5, born Sept 1894, born VA Algeo PRATT, son, age 4, born Oct 1895, born VA Janet PRATT, dau, age 2, born Aug 1897, born VA Marie PRATT, dau, age 1, born Nov 1898, born VA Henry B. PRATT, father, age 68, born May 1832, married 40 years, born GA, parents born CT/GA, a Clergyman Joanna PRATT, mother, age 64, born Jan 1836, married 40 years, 7 children/5 living, born SC, parents born NY/SC Newell SCOTT, nephew, age 17, born Sept 1882, born MD, parents born TX/MD, a Farm Laborer 1910 census of Hackensack, NJ: Paul PRATT, age 40, married 18 years, born NC, parents born GA/SC, a Factory Supervisor Belle PRATT, wife, age 40, married 18 years, 8 children/6 living, born MD, parents born Ireland Paul PRATT, son, age 15, born VA Algeo PRATT, son, age 14, born VA Janet PRATT, dau, age 12, born VA Maria PRATT, dau, age 11, born VA Johan PRATT, dau, age 4, born NJ Newell PRATT, dau, age 2, born NJ 1920 census of Port Jervis, NY: Paul PRATT, age 23, born VA, parents born VA/MD, a Trainman Adelaide PRATT, wife, age 22, born NJ, parents born NJ/OH George S. PRATT, son, age 4, born NJ P. Douglas PRATT, son, age 2, born NJ K. ELY, mother-in-law, age 45, a widow, born OH, parents born NY Adelaide DIEFFESON, grandmother-in-law, age 80, a widow, born NY, parents born NY I am hoping to locate someone from this family so that these wonderful old photographs can be returned to their rightful place with the family. If you are a member of this family, or you know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sharAelli Surnames: Fortune Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3302/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I was wondering if anyone would have access to this obituary ROBERT J. FORTUNE Record, The (Hackensack, NJ) - December 30, 1988 Please email sharelli@yahoo.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sharAelli Surnames: Fortune, Geckle Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3301/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for family of Robert J. Fortune born in 1895 in Williamsport, Pa. and died 1988 in Pinellas Park, Florida. Had two known children, daughter Gayle (married name Geckle, lived in King of Prussia, Pa) and son Jan lived in Hackensack, NJ. Please email sharelli@yahoo.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: hansmansgarage Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3300.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: How did I miss that? Thanks!! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SuGenClayFL Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3300.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: P.S... Click on the map, it will enlarge then you can print out. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SuGenClayFL Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3300.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Jeff, findagrave.com has a map which may help with the sections. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=100039&CScn=holy cross&CScntry=4&CSst=33& I hope this link works, Susan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: hansmansgarage Surnames: Cox Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3300/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am hoping to head to Holy Cross this Satuday. The office will be closed when I get there, does anyone have a map of the cemetery? Looking for Block 11 Section C. I have a map from Mapquest, but it does not show sections. Thanks Jeff Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Westchester County Genealogical Society (NY) Upcoming Meeting The next meeting to celebrate the 25th Anniversary of WCGS is this coming Saturday. TOPIC: Peter Savigny will present Every Age Has a Story to Tell at our next meeting on April 12. Mr. Savigny is a multiple Emmy Award-winning television art director, whose video biography production company, Heirloom Biography, produces professional video biographies and montages so families and individuals can preserve their life stories for future generations. Heirloom Biography (_www.heirloombiography.com_ (http://www.heirloombiography.com) ) is a member of the Association of Personal Historians, a not-for-profit international trade association dedicated to advance the profession of assisting individuals, organizations and communities to preserve their histories, life stories and memories. His video biography production company gets to the heart of the story from the stories in your heart.. Mr. Savigny will discuss the various ways we can record our own life stories for our descendants and what services his company can provide to accomplish that goal. MEETING INFO: TOPIC: EVERY AGE HAS A STORY TO TELL SPEAKER: PETER SAVIGNY WHEN: Saturday, APRIL 12, 2008 @ 10 a.m. WHERE: Aldersgate Methodist Church, 600 Broadway in Dobbs Ferry (across from Mercy College on route 9) For information about Westchester County Genealogical Society (Westchester Connection or Surname List), visit WCGS home page -- _http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywcgs/_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywcgs/) RESERVED THESE DATES FOR WCGS Future Meetings May 10, 2008 The Story of Sybil Ludington - American Revolutionary War Hero – the Female Paul Revere Vincent Daquino June 14, 2008 An Object of Great Importance: The Hudson River during the American War for Independence Christopher DiPasquale **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)

Seats are quickly filling at this very special and affordable conference where Dr. Stephen Morse will present his DNA lecture for the first time. Please send registrations to arrive by Thursday, April 10, in order to assure lunch can be provided. Saturday, April 12, 2008, Paramus, NJ Using 21st Century Technology to Trace Your Ancestors The Genealogical Society of Bergen County, NJ, is sponsoring a very special seminar featuring noted guests, Dr. Stephen P. Morse, innovator of genealogical research tools, and David Kleiman, co-founder and chair of the NY Computers and Genealogical Special Interest Group. Dr. Morse and Mr. Kleiman will explore the latest technology and techniques to expand your research and locate information and leads. Topics include: One-Step Webpages: A Potpourri of Genealogical Search Tools, What color Ellis Island Search Form Should I Use, Explore Web Research Tricks, Playing Hide and Seek in the US Census, Family Websites & Posting Your Data - Issues and Options, and From DNA to Genetic Genealogy: Everything You Wanted to Know But Were Afraid to Ask. This will be Dr. Morse's premiere presentation of the DNA lecture. Book Fair, Society Exhibits and Door Prizes. Ample free parking at Bergen Community College, Paramus, NJ (easily accessed from the Garden State Parkway). Email contact: GSBC-seminar@yahoo.com. Registration details and form at www.rootsweb.com/~njgsbc/Seminar2007.html

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rhm1001 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3299/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If your Genealogical Society is looking for information to print in its newsletter, try this website: MySecretLetters.com In addition to the "Love Letters from the Civil War," it also has a "Genealogy Tip of the Day," and a "Thought for the Day." Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Bob Sometimes longshots do pay up but I am afraid there is no connection to my McKean's. Regards Alan Alan Wallace Paul Melbourne Victoria, Australia http://awp44.homestead.com/HomePage.html http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Australian_Genealogical_Researchers/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/UK_Genealogical_Researchers/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert B" <robert_babcock@hotmail.com> To: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>; <njbergen-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [NJBERGEN] Peacock/McKean.Family Scotland to Bergen County > > This is probably a long shot but I'd hadn't thought of the spelling > McKean. > I've been searching for info on Scotish ancestors Mary McKea (m. Babcock) > b. 1835 d.c1890 Bergen NJ; mother Lizzee McKee b.c1810 d.c1875 Bergen NJ. > Any possible relations? > > Bob Babcock > >> From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com >> To: NJBERGEN-L@rootsweb.com >> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 06:12:59 +0000 >> Subject: Re: [NJBERGEN] Peacock/McKean.Family Scotland to Bergen County >> >> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >> Author: alan_paul >> Surnames: >> Classification: queries >> >> Message Board URL: >> >> http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3295.1.1/mb.ashx >> >> Message Board Post: >> >> Hi Liz >> >> Thank you very much for the information you sent. They are definitely >> mine. I am a member of UK Heritage Ancestry which gives me UK and >> Australia Records (not many Australian as yet though) but then I have >> accsess myself to many of their BD&M Records myself. >> >> Once again thank you. >> >> Regards >> >> Alan Paul >> Victoria, Australia >> >> Important Note: >> The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you >> would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link >> above and respond on the board. >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NJBERGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > How well do you know your celebrity gossip? > http://originals.msn.com/thebigdebate?ocid=T002MSN03N0707A > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJBERGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ldrake163 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/1282.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I just found this query. The person you are looking for is my mother. has been a long time since your query was post Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: emmy8176 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3298.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: No problem let me know if you need anything else Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.