A little twist on the story but here's a link to a ghost hunter's investigation of the Van Winkle murder: _http://books.google.com/books?id=TGe-NEDtW3gC&pg=PA19&lpg=PA19&dq=murder+%2Bjohn+van+winkle+1849&source=web&ots=lTn09BTbnw&si g=USYoP_IXxNW7g4oTj3-OmfP3GR8&hl=en#PPA32,M1_ (http://books.google.com/books?id=TGe-NEDtW3gC&pg=PA19&lpg=PA19&dq=murder++john+van+winkle+1849&source=web&ots =lTn09BTbnw&sig=USYoP_IXxNW7g4oTj3-OmfP3GR8&hl=en#PPA32,M1) In a message dated 6/10/2008 9:30:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, nancyterhune@optonline.net writes: There is a typewritten transcription, three-and-one-half pages double-spaced, in the collection of the Bergen County Historical Society, entitled "Diary of Bogert Family - Hohokus N.J." The dates range from 1832 to 1850. Who was this Bogert family? The document is with the Bogert family Bible records, in the shelved Bible records binders. I do not know whether it is connected to any of the Bible records. The records were re-ordered at some point. A list of the names mentioned in the diary is below. Included in the records was a double murder: "Murder committed on the body of John Van Winkle and wife Jan 9 1850." Then later: "Johnson executed for the murder of John Van Winkle and wife April 30 1850" Does anyone know anything more about these murders? Names in diary: Casper WESTERVELT Jacob STOR James POST David CHRISTIE Henry QUIRE Matilda WESTERVELT Ellen HOPPER John QUACKENBUSH Albert A. ACKERMAN John CHRISTOPHER Albert VOORHIS Albert HOPPER Nicholas BOGERT Stephen BOGERT John GARRISON William VOORHIS Jacob YOUNG, Mariah ACKERMAN (marriage) Henry BERRY John HALSTED Crines VAN HOUTEN, Betsey BOGERT (marriage) John C. WESTERVELT Josiah G. BOGERT John VAN NOSTRAND Henry WESTERVELT, Mariah JERSEY (marriage) Daniel PERRY John VAN WINKLE Hassel GARRISON Abraham TERHUNE Also of interest: "Earthquake happened in the night Sept 8 1848" Nancy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJBERGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

There is a typewritten transcription, three-and-one-half pages double-spaced, in the collection of the Bergen County Historical Society, entitled "Diary of Bogert Family - Hohokus N.J." The dates range from 1832 to 1850. Who was this Bogert family? The document is with the Bogert family Bible records, in the shelved Bible records binders. I do not know whether it is connected to any of the Bible records. The records were re-ordered at some point. A list of the names mentioned in the diary is below. Included in the records was a double murder: "Murder committed on the body of John Van Winkle and wife Jan 9 1850." Then later: "Johnson executed for the murder of John Van Winkle and wife April 30 1850" Does anyone know anything more about these murders? Names in diary: Casper WESTERVELT Jacob STOR James POST David CHRISTIE Henry QUIRE Matilda WESTERVELT Ellen HOPPER John QUACKENBUSH Albert A. ACKERMAN John CHRISTOPHER Albert VOORHIS Albert HOPPER Nicholas BOGERT Stephen BOGERT John GARRISON William VOORHIS Jacob YOUNG, Mariah ACKERMAN (marriage) Henry BERRY John HALSTED Crines VAN HOUTEN, Betsey BOGERT (marriage) John C. WESTERVELT Josiah G. BOGERT John VAN NOSTRAND Henry WESTERVELT, Mariah JERSEY (marriage) Daniel PERRY John VAN WINKLE Hassel GARRISON Abraham TERHUNE Also of interest: "Earthquake happened in the night Sept 8 1848" Nancy

In a message dated 6/10/2008 9:30:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, nancyterhune@optonline.net writes: You wrote: <Included in the records was a double murder: "Murder committed on the body of John Van Winkle and wife Jan 9 1850." Then later: "Johnson executed for the murder of John Van Winkle and wife April 30 1850" Does anyone know anything more about these murders? Hi Nancy, I was born in Hawthorne, Passaic County and the local story was of the Van Winkle murders. Yes, there was a murder in the very old sandstone house on Goffle Road opposite the 'duckpond'. From memory, it was an elderly couple murdered by the 'handyman'. If you find the story, please put it on line. Regards, Ethel Kay Konight **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: richvh Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/465.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: No. The colonial era Van Houten family is well documented as being descended from Roelof Cornelisz., and no connection to Cornelius Aertsen Vynhout has been shown. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: frkduffy1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/465.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Could the Van Houten name evolve from the name Vynhout? I Cornelius Aertsen Vynhout 1645-1713 NY FD Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I am the Bergen County, NJGenWeb coordinator. I am seeking scans of old maps to place on the Bergen County site. If you have any that you would like to contribute, please send them to me as a .gif or .jpg with an explanation of the map to: _bergencogenweb@gmail.com_ (mailto:bergencogenweb@gmail.com) Thank you so much. Denise **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DELPHINELARGE Surnames: CAMERON Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3318/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello: John CAMERON served at Louisburg 1757/8. Land grant Bergen, N.J. Wish to connect with descendant of same to compare info leading back to Scotland and Canada.Thank you for any bit ! Delphine Cameron Large Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I am still trying to find information pertaining to the death date and place of Augusta Hesser Koepper who was married to Amandus Koepper. His obituary indicates that he was cremated and his funeral was held at the funeral parlors of Mrs. William Neckor Co. Bergenline Ave and Main Street in the town of Union and incineration New York and New Jersey crematory. I still cannot find out when or where Augusta Hesser Koepper died so that's my next quest. Amaudus' death certificate lists him as a "widowed" and wife's name is Augusta HESSER. Augusta was alive in 1920 according to census records residing in Union, Hudson Co ED 307 , Sht 4 although she is listed as "Mary" and according to Amandus' death certificate of 19 Feb 1925 he was a widower. Hoping someone would help me locate the whereabouts of Augusta Hesser / Koepper who may have died under the name of Mary Hesser / Koeppper. She was 57 years old in 1920 born in Hamburg, Germany. According to the 1900 census, she is listed as "Augusta" born August 1862 37 years old and married 18 yrs. A special "thank you" to those who assisted in providing an obituary for Amandus Koepper as well as a death certificate. Thank you in advance from a sunny (after horrid storm) Nebraska Charlene Email: _mihnbu@aol.com_ (mailto:mihnbu@aol.com) **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nrwr33941 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3316.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Jean, I have the information your are seeking on Samuel Demarest, Samuels Parents are, Father, BArent Demarest, Mother Sartye Storm, Samuel was born Nov. 10, 1813, BAptized Dec.16,1813 at North West Refrmd Church NYC, Marriage recorded atReformee Church of Wyckoff NJ on June 3rd, 1833. Does this help you? If you E mail me your address , to nrwr3394@comcast .net I will mail this infromation to you. Norm Rutan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Marion - Attached please find my records for the Straut Family through my own line, ending with my great-grandmother, Sarah Straut. Unfortunately it does not continue to the generation you reference, but hopefully it gives you some clues. I would be interested in any additional information on the family that you may find. To learn more about us, please visit our website http://familytree.turse.org/ Our posted information on Straut is here http://familytree.turse.org/search.php?myfirstname=&mylastname=Straut&mybool =AND&imgsubmit.x=0&imgsubmit.y=0 Jim Turse On 6/3/08 3:57 PM, "Marion Brown" <marionbrown@optonline.net> wrote: > I am looking for information on the Straut Family of Ramsey - Father George > (was police chief in the 20s and had son named Frederick. There is an > extensive family history floating around. Does anyone know where I might > locate it? > thanks > Marion > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJBERGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I am looking for information on the Straut Family of Ramsey - Father George (was police chief in the 20s and had son named Frederick. There is an extensive family history floating around. Does anyone know where I might locate it? thanks Marion

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: countycavan Surnames: Demarest Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3316.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There are so many of the Demarest family. Please go to the mail list for Bergen County, as I have just posted a biography there of one of the original Demarests. It is lengthy. Also, the problem is that many of the children are not listed. Some of the family are listed has having 12-15 children, with most of them not named in the biographies. This will pose an issue on determining which Samuel is which. I am not related to any of these, but am a County Coordinator for Bergen County, NJGenWeb. The bio is not posted on the web site as yet, just the mail list. Denise Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This was on Google today: _Genealogy.com Stops Adding New Data to Website_ (http://genealogyhelpandhints.com/2008/06/02/genealogycom-stops-adding-new-data-to-website/) By Kathy | June 2, 2008 I was recently contacted by Genealogy.com, at which time their spokesman stated: We have stopped adding information to Genealogy.com . . . ” Ali, Genealogy.com It’s sad to hear this. Genealogy.com has been a great addition to family history websites for many years. If you are currently a subscriber to Genealogy.com, there is no reason to cancel your membership. Just remember that they will no longer be adding new data to their existing holdings. Anyone wanting to join with a new subscription should also be aware of this limitation. Genealogy.com is still an online library of great value. But once you’ve obtained from them all the facts you can glean about your ancestors, your subscription dollars would be best spent elsewhere. **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

BERGEN / HUDSON COUNTIES ELMER WILSON DEMAREST. ELMER WILSON DEMAREST is a direct descendant of Jean des Marest (1), a prominent citizen and resident of Beauchamp in the Province of Picardy, France. There, about 1620, was born his son, David des Marest (2), who, upon reaching manhood, espoused the Protestant faith and fled to Holland to escape persecution, locating at Middleburgh on the Island of Walcheron in Zeeland. Here, on July 24, 1643, David married Maria, a daughter of François Sohier, of Nieppe, a town in Hainault. The couple resided at Middleburgh until 1651, when they removed to Manheim on the Rhine River, in the lower Palatinate, then under the protection of the Elector Charles Lewis. At Manheim, the Protestants were already being threatened by the Catholic princes and David des Marest, with others of a like religious faith, determined to go to America for safety. Accordingly, early in the spring of 1663 they journeyed down the Rhine to Amsterdam, where they embarked for New Amsterdam on the ship “Spotted Cow,” reaching the latter port on April 16, 1663. Des Marest first went with his wife and three sons to Staten Island, where they joined the Huguenot settlement, recently started. The following year he was elected to represent the settlement in the provincial assembly. The savages proving troublesome, Demarest bought and located on lands at New Harlem, then a name applied to the upper end of Manhattan Island. Here he prospered, acquired several town lots, and became prominent in town affairs. In 1677, a tax having been levied on him for the support of the Dutch Church at Harlem, he refused to pay it, claiming immunity therefrom because he was neither an attendant nor a communicant of the Dutch Church. The “powers that be” sued him for the tax, procured judgment, and proceeded by execution and levy to collect it. This angered Demarest and he determined to leave Harlem. On the 8th of June, 1677, he purchased from the Hackensack and Tappan Indians a large tract (estimated at about 6,000 acres) of land on the east bank of the Hackensack River, extending northward from New Bridge. By subsequent purchase he added an extensive tract west of the Hackensack, on which he built two mills. He built his family residence at what is now Old Bridge and erected a French Church on the east side of the river, a little west of the Schraalenburgh road. The lands he purchased were claimed by several white persons and by the savages. Some of these claims were not extinguished until after his death. He died in New York City in 1693, leaving a will by which he devised all his lands to his two surviving sons, John and Samuel, and to his very numerous grandchildren. David des Marest, Jr. (3), the second of the emigrant’s sons, died in 1691, before the decease of his father. At the time of his death he was residing east of the Hackensack on part of his father’s original patent near Schraalenburgh. He was born at Manheim in the lower Palatinate in 1652, and married, April 4, 1675, Rachel, daughter of Pierre Crasson, a French refuse. His occupation was that of a farmer. He had twelve children: David, Peter, Susanna, Rachel, Jacobus D., Samuel, Mary, Daniel, Benjamin, Jacomina, Lea, and Lydia. Jacobus Davids des Marest (4), the fifth of these, baptized at New York October 3, 1681, married (1) Lea De Groot and (2) Margaretta Cozine Haring. Farming was his principal occupation and he held several township offices. He resided in the Schraalenburgh district and left at his death twelve children, of whom Garret Jacobse Demarest (5), born at Schraalenburgh, June 30, 1725, died there December 17, 1798, married, in 1747, Jacomina (Tunis) Helms. They resided at Schraalenburgh, where Garret pursued the calling of a farmer. His issue were fifteen children, of whom Abraham Garrets Demarest (6) was born at Schraalenburgh, where Garret pursued the calling of a farmer. His issue were fifteen children, of whom Abraham Garrets Demarest (6) was born at Schraalenburgh March 16, 1767, and died there March 18, 1860. He married Margaret Demarest, a relative, born December 3, 1761, died May 16, 1832. Abraham was a farmer and left three children: Garret A., John A., and James A. John A. Demarest (7), born April 11, 1798, died May 23, 1864, married, in 1818, Jane, daughter of Peter Merseles, born March 3, 1803, died September 22, 1888. He purchased and resided, at the time of his death, on lands at what is now Eastwood, N. J., where, on his death, he left two children: Margaretta J., wife of Albert Z. Ackerman, and Abraham J. Demarest. He was a cattle dealer, purchasing cattle in the west and selling them in New York, under the firm name of Demarest & Grant. He also conducted an importing house of willowware, etc., in New York, and a country grocery store on the farm at Eastwood. Abraham J. Demarest (8), born at Eastwood, N. J., April 30, 1840, married May 18, 1859, Eliza W., daughter of Jacob G. H. Lozier, of Teaneck, now Englewood. She was a descendant of Peter Wilson, a Scotchman, who held the degree of Doctor of Laws, and was for some time a member of the faculty of Columbia College, New York. Abraham J. followed farming until his father’s death, when he removed to Closter, N. J., where he conducted a meat market until 1892, when he retired from business and is now residing at Bayonne, N. J. He has had three children: Nettie Marcella, married Horace Roberson, a lawyer, at Bayonne; Edwin S., died; and Elmer Wilson, the subject of this sketch. Elmer Wilson Demarest (9) was born at Eastwood, N. J., May 15, 1870. He was educated in the public schools of Closter, N. J., the Rutgers Preparatory School, Rutgers College, and Columbia Law College, graduating from the last named institution as a Bachelor of Laws in 1892. He was admitted to the New Jersey bar as an attorney in February, 1892, and as a counselor in June, 1895, and to practice in the United States Courts in January, 1897. Since his admission he has practiced law in Bayonne and Jersey City, and has been successful in litigations, having conducted a number of important cases. He is counsel for a number of corporations. He not only stands high in his profession, but is also prominent as a Republican leader, having always affiliated with the Republican party. He has shown great activity in this connection. In 1892 he was a member of the Bergen County Republican Executive Committee. He has been a member and Vice-President of the Hudson County Republican Committee from 1893 to the present time. He is also a Trustee and a member of the Executive Committee of that organization. In 1897 he was elected to the New Jersey House of Assembly, was prominently connected with the equal taxation measure of that year, and conducted the fight in the House for the Voorhees Judiciary Constitutional amendments. He is a member of the New Jersey Athletic Club of Bayonne, of the Newark Bay Boat Club of Bayonne, and of the Palma Club of Jersey City. On September 9, 1896, Mr. Demarest married Miss Blanche Adeline Bristow, of Bayonne, and they have one child, Kenneth E. Demarest (10) born August 14, 1897. Source: Genealogical History of Hudson and Bergen Counties, New Jersey, Editor, Cornelius Burnham Harvey, The New Jersey Genealogical Publishing Company, 1900, page 64-66. **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RMORRIS216 Surnames: Willis, Doremus, Hopper, Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3317/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have some notes that John Willis, b. 1741 m. Rachel Doremus bought a home from Henry Hopper at Crooked Pond. It was then sold to Abraham Brower in 1801 and John Willis subsequently bought the home next door that belonged to Jacob Van Houten's heirs. Both houses were standing in 1906. Does anyone have any information on these houses. If I'm correct, the area would now be Franklin Lakes, somewhere near Colonial Road and Franklin Lakes Road. Are these homes still in existence? Thanks. Regards, Jean Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RMORRIS216 Surnames: Demarest, Storms Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3316/mb.ashx Message Board Post: It is noted in John J. Storms Bible Records, that Sarah Jane Storms b. 17 April 1817 married Samuel Demarest 1 June 1833. Sarah Jane was the daughter of John J. Storms b. 26 July 1794 and Jane Guest b. 6 March 1795. I am interested in finding out who are the parents of Samuel Demarest and if possible obtaining a birth date for Samuel. Regards, Jean Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LinVanBuren45 Surnames: VAN BUREN, SHEFFIELD, JOHNSON, DI CASTELMENARDO Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3315/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Seeking to share all information about the family of Major-General Thomas Brodhead VAN BUREN (1824-1889) and his wife, nee Harriette Carthy SHEFFIELD (c1831-1901), who owned a mansion at Tea Neck, Bergen Co NJ from the mid-1880s onwards. When Harriette died, apparently she devised the mansion to her only daughter, Edith May VAN BUREN (c1858-1914), who in 1900 had married an Italian bogus nobleman named Gennaro Vessicchio Giorgio di Castelmenardo in London. Globetrotting socialite Edith, styled Countess di Castelmenardo, divorced the unfaithful "count" in 1907. She never had any children, so when she died, to whom did she devise the Teaneck mansion? Thomas Van Buren had three sons: Joseph Sheffield VAN BUREN (had a shipping line based in Hong Kong, reportedly), Harold Sheffield VAN BUREN (was US Consul in Nice) and Thomas Brodhead VAN BUREN Jr. I believe that Harold's widow remarried by 1910 to a Maryland-born Nelson R. JOHNSON. Did Harriette Van Buren leave a will in Bergen ! Co NJ? Did Edith Van Buren di Castelmenardo leave a will in Bergen Co NJ? All info is welcome! Lin Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: trump123 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/198.325.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Orson Parsels married Sarah Wolcott. Orson's father was John Waren Parsels. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

My wife, Margaret (Peggy) Scott Pharris Died of colon and liver cancer after a short (less than two months after it was discovered) battle with her illness. You may wish to delete her name from your e-mail list. She, Peggy, was very involved in tracing her family roots. Peggy was born in Sussex County, New Jersey but move to Tennessee in the early 1970s. We were together almost 24 years counting the time we dated and were married. I will miss her very much. Sincerely, James (Jim) Pharris 5366 Simpkins Road Whites Creek, TN 37189 **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

Dear John Andrew, ?I believe microfilm copies of the Record, and its antecedents are available at the Johnson Library in Hackensack, NJ.?? You can call the Reference Department at (201) 343-4781 or email?at hackref@bccls.org Contact information for Twin-Boro News: http://www.njmg.com/contact/twin_boro_news.php For newspapers available at NJ Archives http://www.state.nj.us/state/darm/pdf/newspape.pdf Margaret? -----Original Message----- From: John <japrime@bellsouth.net> To: njbergen@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 31 May 2008 9:59 am Subject: [NJBERGEN] Research request My grandfather, Thomas J. Prime, was mayor of Bergenfield from 1918-1922 and after that he and various family members were deeply involved in Bergen County Democratic and Republican political circles, as well as with the Bergen Record and the Twin-Boro News, among others. My father, TJ's youngest son Stephen Prime, was at Pearl Harbor when it was attacked, which would have been reported in the area papers as well. Does anyone know if the Bergen Record is available to researchers outside the state via Interlibrary Loan? I work for a major daily newspaper in Louisiana, which possible could assist in the process, and would be willing to trade lookup "credits" and time in return for anyone willing to look for stories relating to TJ's term in office and my father in the weeks immediately after Pearl Harbor. I can also supply specific dates to look for other articles. My father's comings and goings in World War II were reported because his brother was a reporter at the paper and later its advertising director. Thanks in advance, John Andrew Prime Shreveport, LA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJBERGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message