This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LindaThank2005 Surnames: RUTAN/LIEN(S) Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/465.1.2.1.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: As your postings were all entered in the time frame of Nov 2004, I am hoping for contact on this particular subject, Coonrad [formerly LIEN] and his mother Catharine [formerly widow RUTAN] in the will of Coonrad LIEN of 1755. I have been studying the RUTAN line for about a year now and have quite a bit of material. My ultimate goal was the true name of Dorothy RUTAN and her parents on a piece of pater. Thus, my quest in this matter. Perhaps we can do some good for both of our needs together? Regards, Linda lthank@gotsky.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cpensabene Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3323/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am seeking any information on the Dailey family of Bergen County. Parents: Patrick (1860-1921) Rose (nee Crilley 1865-1935) Children: Kathryn (1895-1897) John (1896-1938)- married Gertrude Highland (1904-1942) Michael (1898-1964) James (1901-1996) Peter (1902-1965) Joseph (1905-1970) William (1908-1983) Thank you in advance for any help! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

In response to Ethel's query as to the accuracy of the story of the murder of John T. Demarest's wife and nine children as it appears on the website of the Pascack Reformed Church, I have to report that the story is a total fabrication. Rev. Demarest and his wife had three children, and while the wife and children all died prematurely, they died at different times, in differing circumstances, and not violently. The family's story can be read on the Dutch Door website, under "Other Historical". Regina Haring http://www.dutchdoorgenealogy.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <ETHELKK@aol.com> To: <Dutch-Colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 5:30 PM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] John T Demarest, wife and nine children murdered? > Many moons ago, I went on a tour of the Pascack Reformed Church and > Cemetery, located at 65 Pascack Road, Park Ridge, Bergen County, NJ. and during a > tour of the cemetery, the guide told a story about the Rev. Demarest coming > home in 1856 and finding his wife and nine children murdered. I forgot about > this story until last week when this story is repeated in a local paper The > Pascack Valley Community Life on 7 May 2008 with quotes by Carl Weil, the > church historian. "In 1854, Dr. John T. Demarest became the first full-time > minister of the Pascack Reformed Church, Weil says, barely audible. And in > 1856, Demarest came home to find his wife and nine children brutally > murdered." >

Could sks please look up marriage records for Catherine Haas to Stanley P. Schwartz around 1941-2. They were from Ridgefield and Palisades Park, Bergen County, NJ. Thank you, Robert Leonard

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: real2nurse Surnames: lohsen, ceres, lakefield Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3321/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Could someone please look up marriage records for Lavinia Lakefield Possibly to Schumacher around 1944 and to Harry Ceres around 1946. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

With thanks for all their hard work to Ethel Konight and Pat Wardell, I'm pleased to say that the Overseers of the Poor Records for Franklin Township, Bergen Co., NJ are now available on Dutch Door Genealogy. May I suggest that you use the Clusty search on the homepage to find the pages on DDG where your ancestors might appear - there are just too many places to search otherwise. Regina Haring http://www.dutchdoorgenealogy.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Bob_MacAvoy Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3320/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If you are interested in the Civil War, especially in the location of Civil War veterans grave sites in New Jersey cemeteries, check out the OBGB website: http://ourbrothersgonebefore.wetpaint.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I have scanned the following pictures and will send to people who would like them These people were related to Hubschmitt/Courter family in Glen Rock Courter, George W., David,, Bessie, Frank and a Courter family photo Ridgewood about 1905 Folley, Mary Ochs, Mae Naugle, Mary Kemp, Isaac Smith, Wm H. Pennal, Bessie Hubschmitt, Marion, Adolph, George, Mable Zabriskie, Stella

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: macali1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3319.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You might want to post this request to the new forum on the Hudson County NJ Genealogical Society's webpage. Hudson was originally part of Bergen and Van Vorst and Marselis are familiar names in Jersey City. http://hcnjgs.forumco.com/ Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I have uploaded additional biographies. If you see any that do not have the source at the bottom of the bio, please let me know what the name is and I'll get that revised. This is a big project and is coming along, but is a slow mover. Thanks. Denise _www.usgennet.org/usa/nj/county/bergen/_ (http://www.usgennet.org/usa/nj/county/bergen/) Look for biographies link in the left hand column **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

An article entitled MURDER "Hawthorne New Jersey 1664-1964 Tercentenary Souvenir Book" One of the most brutal murders that occurred in this part of the state took place on January 9, 1850 when Judge John S. Van Winkle and his wife Jannetie were literally hacked to death in the bedroom of their home on Goffle Road. Judge Van Winkle, descendant of one of the pioneer families in the county, was the owner of much of the farm property at the Goffle and consequently employed a number of farm hands. One of these was John Johnston who had been reprimanded and fined by the judge for being drunk. Johnston being familiar with the layout of the house, secured a ladder and a meat cleaver to carry out his foul deed. Climbing up to the bedroom window on the outside he entered the room where the couple was asleep and proceeded to hack them to pieces. Mrs. Van Winkle died instantly but the Judge managed to struggle with his assailant and eventually Johnston leaped out of the window and tried to escape by going over to the brook which ran in front of the house. He wandered north as far as Rock Road where he left the brook and headed for the Erie station at what is now Glen Rock. the agent here, sensing that something was wrong, delayed the murderer long enough, as no train was due, so that the aroused neighbors of the Goffle following the footprints in the snow soon caught up with the culprit and took him to the County Jail in Paterson. Johnston was tried and sentenced to be hung, which was carried out on April 30, 1850, in the yard of the Passaic County Jail. A gallows had been erected and large number of witnesses were present to see the first hanging that took place in Passaic County. ekk comment: Justice was swift in those days. 'Dastardly Deed' occurred on January 9, 1850. Three and a half months later, on April 30, he was hanged. Regards, Ethel Kay Konight ======================= ORIGINAL QUERY In a message dated 6/10/2008 9:30:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, nancyterhune@optonline.net writes: You wrote: <Included in the records was a double murder: "Murder committed on the body of John Van Winkle and wife Jan 9 1850." Then later: "Johnson executed for the murder of John Van Winkle and wife April 30 1850" Does anyone know anything more about these murders? ================ Hi Nancy, > I was born in Hawthorne, Passaic County and the local story was of > the Van Winkle murders. Yes, there was a murder in the very old sandstone house on Goffle Road opposite the 'duckpond'. From memory, it was an elderly couple murdered by the 'handyman'. > > If you find the story, please put it on line. > > Regards, > Ethel Kay Konight > > **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

Thanks to all of you who replied regarding the Van Winkle murders! I've been overwhelmed this week but am looking forward to all you've sent. Still wanting to identify that Bogert family -- anyone with any thoughts about that? I had thought that the names mentioned in the diary equalled proximity to these Bogerts, but obviously if the Van Winkle murders took place in Hawthorne that it not so. My g'g'g'grandfather, Abraham Terhune, is mentioned, and that family did live in HoHoKus. Ree, the Hopper entries are these two: "Ellen Hopper died March 21 1843" "Made a new pot metal sleigh for Albert Hopper 1846" Thanks again, everyone! Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: Maria Hopper <reetree@optonline.net> Date: Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:31 pm Subject: Van Winkle Murders To: njbergen@rootsweb.com Cc: Nancy Terhune# <nancyterhune@optonline.net> > FYI > > from don smith's page MYSpace page [http://profile.myspace.com/ > index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=30283064] > My name is Don Smith. I am a writer from Hawthorne, NJ with a > growing > writing career. I live with my beautiful wife, Laura, and my cats - > > Silent Bob, Merlin, and Banjo. My first book - "Hawthorne" - came > out > in May of 2006. It gives a look at aspects of Hawthorne, NJ's past. > > Most of my time my writing can be seen in "The Gazette" and > "Community News" which are weekly newspapers owned by North Jersey > Media Group. I am in the process now of writing a book detailing > the > Van Winkle murders of 1850 in Hawthorne. I am currently working to > edit the first draft of my first novel and finishing up my first > screenplay. For more information, visit my blog over at > www.xanga.com/ > donsmith. > > > Maria (Ree) Pratt Hopper > compiler of The Hopper Family Genealogy; > Descendants of Andries Willemszen Hoppe(n) > of New Amsterdam 1651-1658; First Six Generations > www.reetree.com > Please also visit my larger web site - Ree's Trees > > PS Nancy Could you tell me what the Diary says about the Hoppers? > > Thanks, Ree > > On Jun 11, 2008, at 3:00 AM, njbergen-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Bogerts of HoHoKus and the Van Winkle murders > > (nancyterhune@optonline.net) > > 2. Re: Bogerts of HoHoKus and the Van Winkle murders > > (ETHELKK@aol.com) > > 3. Re: Bogerts of HoHoKus and the Van Winkle murders > > (RMorris216@aol.com) > > 4. Re: Bogerts of HoHoKus and the Van Winkle murders > > (RMorris216@aol.com) > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > ---- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:30:16 +0000 (GMT) > > From: nancyterhune@optonline.net > > Subject: [NJBERGEN] Bogerts of HoHoKus and the Van Winkle murders > > To: NJBERGEN@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: <e41692861f1aa.484e81e8@optonline.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > There is a typewritten transcription, three-and-one-half pages > > double-spaced, in the collection of the Bergen County Historical > > Society, entitled "Diary of Bogert Family - Hohokus N.J." The > > dates range from 1832 to 1850. > > > > Who was this Bogert family? > > > > The document is with the Bogert family Bible records, in the > > shelved Bible records binders. I do not know whether it is > > connected to any of the Bible records. The records were re- > ordered > > at some point. > > > > A list of the names mentioned in the diary is below. > > > > Included in the records was a double murder: > > "Murder committed on the body of John Van Winkle and wife Jan 9 > 1850."> Then later: > > "Johnson executed for the murder of John Van Winkle and wife > April > > 30 1850" > > > > Does anyone know anything more about these murders? > > > > Names in diary: > > Casper WESTERVELT > > Jacob STOR > > James POST > > David CHRISTIE > > Henry QUIRE > > Matilda WESTERVELT > > Ellen HOPPER > > John QUACKENBUSH > > Albert A. ACKERMAN > > John CHRISTOPHER > > Albert VOORHIS > > Albert HOPPER > > Nicholas BOGERT > > Stephen BOGERT > > John GARRISON > > William VOORHIS > > Jacob YOUNG, Mariah ACKERMAN (marriage) > > Henry BERRY > > John HALSTED > > Crines VAN HOUTEN, Betsey BOGERT (marriage) > > John C. WESTERVELT > > Josiah G. BOGERT > > John VAN NOSTRAND > > Henry WESTERVELT, Mariah JERSEY (marriage) > > Daniel PERRY > > John VAN WINKLE > > Hassel GARRISON > > Abraham TERHUNE > > > > Also of interest: "Earthquake happened in the night Sept 8 1848" > > > > Nancy > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:06:04 EDT > > From: ETHELKK@aol.com > > Subject: Re: [NJBERGEN] Bogerts of HoHoKus and the Van Winkle > murders> To: njbergen@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: <c24.39fb7490.357fe44c@aol.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > > > In a message dated 6/10/2008 9:30:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > nancyterhune@optonline.net writes: > > > > You wrote: > > <Included in the records was a double murder: > > "Murder committed on the body of John Van Winkle and wife Jan 9 > > 1850." > > Then later: > > "Johnson executed for the murder of John Van Winkle and wife > April > > 30 1850" > > > > Does anyone know anything more about these murders? > > > > > > Hi Nancy, > > > > I was born in Hawthorne, Passaic County and the local story was > of > > the Van > > Winkle murders. Yes, there was a murder in the very old > sandstone > > house on > > Goffle Road opposite the 'duckpond'. From memory, it was an > > elderly couple > > murdered by the 'handyman'. > > > > If you find the story, please put it on line. > > > > Regards, > > Ethel Kay Konight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. > > City's Best > > 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:50:17 EDT > > From: RMorris216@aol.com > > Subject: Re: [NJBERGEN] Bogerts of HoHoKus and the Van Winkle > murders> To: njbergen@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: <c2d.37e90f64.35805f29@aol.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > A little twist on the story but here's a link to a ghost hunter's > > investigation of the Van Winkle murder: > > _http://books.google.com/books?id=TGe- > > NEDtW3gC&pg=PA19&lpg=PA19&dq=murder+%2Bjohn+van+winkle > > +1849&source=web&ots=lTn09BTbnw&si > > g=USYoP_IXxNW7g4oTj3-OmfP3GR8&hl=en#PPA32,M1_ > > (http://books.google.com/books?id=TGe- > > NEDtW3gC&pg=PA19&lpg=PA19&dq=murder++john+van+winkle > > +1849&source=web&ots > > =lTn09BTbnw&sig=USYoP_IXxNW7g4oTj3-OmfP3GR8&hl=en#PPA32,M1) > > > > > > In a message dated 6/10/2008 9:30:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > nancyterhune@optonline.net writes: > > > > There is a typewritten transcription, three-and-one-half pages > > double-spaced, in the collection of the Bergen County Historical > > > Society, entitled "Diary > > of Bogert Family - Hohokus N.J." The dates range from 1832 to > 1850.> > > Who was this Bogert family? > > > > The document is with the Bogert family Bible records, in the > > shelved Bible > > records binders. I do not know whether it is connected to any > of > > the Bible > > records. The records were re-ordered at some point. > > > > A list of the names mentioned in the diary is below. > > > > Included in the records was a double murder: > > "Murder committed on the body of John Van Winkle and wife Jan 9 > > 1850." > > Then later: > > "Johnson executed for the murder of John Van Winkle and wife > April > > 30 1850" > > > > Does anyone know anything more about these murders? > > > > Names in diary: > > Casper WESTERVELT > > Jacob STOR > > James POST > > David CHRISTIE > > Henry QUIRE > > Matilda WESTERVELT > > Ellen HOPPER > > John QUACKENBUSH > > Albert A. ACKERMAN > > John CHRISTOPHER > > Albert VOORHIS > > Albert HOPPER > > Nicholas BOGERT > > Stephen BOGERT > > John GARRISON > > William VOORHIS > > Jacob YOUNG, Mariah ACKERMAN (marriage) > > Henry BERRY > > John HALSTED > > Crines VAN HOUTEN, Betsey BOGERT (marriage) > > John C. WESTERVELT > > Josiah G. BOGERT > > John VAN NOSTRAND > > Henry WESTERVELT, Mariah JERSEY (marriage) > > Daniel PERRY > > John VAN WINKLE > > Hassel GARRISON > > Abraham TERHUNE > > > > Also of interest: "Earthquake happened in the night Sept 8 1848" > > > > Nancy > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NJBERGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > the quotes in the subject and > > the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. > > City's Best > > 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:01:30 EDT > > From: RMorris216@aol.com > > Subject: Re: [NJBERGEN] Bogerts of HoHoKus and the Van Winkle > murders> To: njbergen@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: <cf9.36477b15.358061ca@aol.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > sorry - I realized after I sent this that it was an extremely > long > > address. > > Here it is converted to tiny url: > > > > http://preview.tinyurl.com/3mxmx5 > > [_Open in new window_ (http://preview.tinyurl.com/3mxmx5) ] > > > > > > In a message dated 6/10/2008 10:06:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > ETHELKK@aol.com writes: > > > > > > In a message dated 6/10/2008 9:30:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > nancyterhune@optonline.net writes: > > > > You wrote: > > <Included in the records was a double murder: > > "Murder committed on the body of John Van Winkle and wife Jan 9 > > > 1850." > > Then later: > > "Johnson executed for the murder of John Van Winkle and wife > > April 30 1850" > > > > Does anyone know anything more about these murders? > > > > > > Hi Nancy, > > > > I was born in Hawthorne, Passaic County and the local story was > of > > the Van > > Winkle murders. Yes, there was a murder in the very old > > sandstone house on > > Goffle Road opposite the 'duckpond'. From memory, it was an > > elderly couple > > murdered by the 'handyman'. > > > > If you find the story, please put it on line. > > > > Regards, > > Ethel Kay Konight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. > > City's Best > > 2008. 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In a message dated 6/13/2008 3:03:32 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, njbergen-request@rootsweb.com writes: This is a terrific effort, and thanks for posting updates as you go along, as you are now. The thing we absolutely need is source references for everything. Primary sources are best, of course, but in their absence secondary sources are helpful in that they're a starting point for primary source corroboration (though definitely shouldn't be taken as gospel unless they include primary source citations, no matter the reputation or past work of the author). I'm sure you agree that much incorrect material has been posted on the Internet and everywhere else. That material gets perpetuated, and once the viral infection has spread it is impossible to eradicate. If anyone shares any genealogical information with anyone, including family members, and doesn't note/know the original sources, the possibility of errors needs to be noted big bold and in caps on every single page of a document. ----------------- Nancy: I totally agree. All of the biographies I am posting have the source at the bottom of the biography. If there are any that are missing, let me know, as that would be just an oversight on my part. All biographies are from the same book at this point in time. Denise Bergen County, NJGenWeb _www.usgennet.org/usa/nj/county/bergen/_ (http://www.usgennet.org/usa/nj/county/bergen/) **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

FYI from don smith's page MYSpace page [http://profile.myspace.com/ index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=30283064] My name is Don Smith. I am a writer from Hawthorne, NJ with a growing writing career. I live with my beautiful wife, Laura, and my cats - Silent Bob, Merlin, and Banjo. My first book - "Hawthorne" - came out in May of 2006. It gives a look at aspects of Hawthorne, NJ's past. Most of my time my writing can be seen in "The Gazette" and "Community News" which are weekly newspapers owned by North Jersey Media Group. I am in the process now of writing a book detailing the Van Winkle murders of 1850 in Hawthorne. I am currently working to edit the first draft of my first novel and finishing up my first screenplay. For more information, visit my blog over at www.xanga.com/ donsmith. Maria (Ree) Pratt Hopper compiler of The Hopper Family Genealogy; Descendants of Andries Willemszen Hoppe(n) of New Amsterdam 1651-1658; First Six Generations www.reetree.com Please also visit my larger web site - Ree's Trees PS Nancy Could you tell me what the Diary says about the Hoppers? Thanks, Ree On Jun 11, 2008, at 3:00 AM, njbergen-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Bogerts of HoHoKus and the Van Winkle murders > (nancyterhune@optonline.net) > 2. Re: Bogerts of HoHoKus and the Van Winkle murders > (ETHELKK@aol.com) > 3. Re: Bogerts of HoHoKus and the Van Winkle murders > (RMorris216@aol.com) > 4. Re: Bogerts of HoHoKus and the Van Winkle murders > (RMorris216@aol.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:30:16 +0000 (GMT) > From: nancyterhune@optonline.net > Subject: [NJBERGEN] Bogerts of HoHoKus and the Van Winkle murders > To: NJBERGEN@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <e41692861f1aa.484e81e8@optonline.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > There is a typewritten transcription, three-and-one-half pages > double-spaced, in the collection of the Bergen County Historical > Society, entitled "Diary of Bogert Family - Hohokus N.J." The > dates range from 1832 to 1850. > > Who was this Bogert family? > > The document is with the Bogert family Bible records, in the > shelved Bible records binders. I do not know whether it is > connected to any of the Bible records. The records were re-ordered > at some point. > > A list of the names mentioned in the diary is below. > > Included in the records was a double murder: > "Murder committed on the body of John Van Winkle and wife Jan 9 1850." > Then later: > "Johnson executed for the murder of John Van Winkle and wife April > 30 1850" > > Does anyone know anything more about these murders? > > Names in diary: > Casper WESTERVELT > Jacob STOR > James POST > David CHRISTIE > Henry QUIRE > Matilda WESTERVELT > Ellen HOPPER > John QUACKENBUSH > Albert A. ACKERMAN > John CHRISTOPHER > Albert VOORHIS > Albert HOPPER > Nicholas BOGERT > Stephen BOGERT > John GARRISON > William VOORHIS > Jacob YOUNG, Mariah ACKERMAN (marriage) > Henry BERRY > John HALSTED > Crines VAN HOUTEN, Betsey BOGERT (marriage) > John C. WESTERVELT > Josiah G. BOGERT > John VAN NOSTRAND > Henry WESTERVELT, Mariah JERSEY (marriage) > Daniel PERRY > John VAN WINKLE > Hassel GARRISON > Abraham TERHUNE > > Also of interest: "Earthquake happened in the night Sept 8 1848" > > Nancy > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:06:04 EDT > From: ETHELKK@aol.com > Subject: Re: [NJBERGEN] Bogerts of HoHoKus and the Van Winkle murders > To: njbergen@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <c24.39fb7490.357fe44c@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > In a message dated 6/10/2008 9:30:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > nancyterhune@optonline.net writes: > > You wrote: > <Included in the records was a double murder: > "Murder committed on the body of John Van Winkle and wife Jan 9 > 1850." > Then later: > "Johnson executed for the murder of John Van Winkle and wife April > 30 1850" > > Does anyone know anything more about these murders? > > > Hi Nancy, > > I was born in Hawthorne, Passaic County and the local story was of > the Van > Winkle murders. Yes, there was a murder in the very old sandstone > house on > Goffle Road opposite the 'duckpond'. From memory, it was an > elderly couple > murdered by the 'handyman'. > > If you find the story, please put it on line. > > Regards, > Ethel Kay Konight > > > > > > > > > **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. > City's Best > 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:50:17 EDT > From: RMorris216@aol.com > Subject: Re: [NJBERGEN] Bogerts of HoHoKus and the Van Winkle murders > To: njbergen@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <c2d.37e90f64.35805f29@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > A little twist on the story but here's a link to a ghost hunter's > investigation of the Van Winkle murder: > _http://books.google.com/books?id=TGe- > NEDtW3gC&pg=PA19&lpg=PA19&dq=murder+%2Bjohn+van+winkle > +1849&source=web&ots=lTn09BTbnw&si > g=USYoP_IXxNW7g4oTj3-OmfP3GR8&hl=en#PPA32,M1_ > (http://books.google.com/books?id=TGe- > NEDtW3gC&pg=PA19&lpg=PA19&dq=murder++john+van+winkle > +1849&source=web&ots > =lTn09BTbnw&sig=USYoP_IXxNW7g4oTj3-OmfP3GR8&hl=en#PPA32,M1) > > > In a message dated 6/10/2008 9:30:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > nancyterhune@optonline.net writes: > > There is a typewritten transcription, three-and-one-half pages > double-spaced, in the collection of the Bergen County Historical > Society, entitled "Diary > of Bogert Family - Hohokus N.J." The dates range from 1832 to 1850. > > Who was this Bogert family? > > The document is with the Bogert family Bible records, in the > shelved Bible > records binders. I do not know whether it is connected to any of > the Bible > records. The records were re-ordered at some point. > > A list of the names mentioned in the diary is below. > > Included in the records was a double murder: > "Murder committed on the body of John Van Winkle and wife Jan 9 > 1850." > Then later: > "Johnson executed for the murder of John Van Winkle and wife April > 30 1850" > > Does anyone know anything more about these murders? > > Names in diary: > Casper WESTERVELT > Jacob STOR > James POST > David CHRISTIE > Henry QUIRE > Matilda WESTERVELT > Ellen HOPPER > John QUACKENBUSH > Albert A. ACKERMAN > John CHRISTOPHER > Albert VOORHIS > Albert HOPPER > Nicholas BOGERT > Stephen BOGERT > John GARRISON > William VOORHIS > Jacob YOUNG, Mariah ACKERMAN (marriage) > Henry BERRY > John HALSTED > Crines VAN HOUTEN, Betsey BOGERT (marriage) > John C. WESTERVELT > Josiah G. BOGERT > John VAN NOSTRAND > Henry WESTERVELT, Mariah JERSEY (marriage) > Daniel PERRY > John VAN WINKLE > Hassel GARRISON > Abraham TERHUNE > > Also of interest: "Earthquake happened in the night Sept 8 1848" > > Nancy > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJBERGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > > > > **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. > City's Best > 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:01:30 EDT > From: RMorris216@aol.com > Subject: Re: [NJBERGEN] Bogerts of HoHoKus and the Van Winkle murders > To: njbergen@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <cf9.36477b15.358061ca@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > sorry - I realized after I sent this that it was an extremely long > address. > Here it is converted to tiny url: > > http://preview.tinyurl.com/3mxmx5 > [_Open in new window_ (http://preview.tinyurl.com/3mxmx5) ] > > > In a message dated 6/10/2008 10:06:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > ETHELKK@aol.com writes: > > > In a message dated 6/10/2008 9:30:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > nancyterhune@optonline.net writes: > > You wrote: > <Included in the records was a double murder: > "Murder committed on the body of John Van Winkle and wife Jan 9 > 1850." > Then later: > "Johnson executed for the murder of John Van Winkle and wife > April 30 1850" > > Does anyone know anything more about these murders? > > > Hi Nancy, > > I was born in Hawthorne, Passaic County and the local story was of > the Van > Winkle murders. Yes, there was a murder in the very old > sandstone house on > Goffle Road opposite the 'duckpond'. From memory, it was an > elderly couple > murdered by the 'handyman'. > > If you find the story, please put it on line. > > Regards, > Ethel Kay Konight > > > > > > > > > **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. > City's Best > 2008. 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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: flemingo73703 Surnames: Marsalis/Marselis/Marcellus, etc., Van Vorst, Hutchins Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3319/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, I am an 8 great granddaughter of Pieterse Van Marselis son of Pieter "Peter" Van Marselis and Elizabeth. And wife Pieterje Van Vorst b. 1659 to Ide Van Borst and Hilletje Van Oldenburg. Both families from the Bergen, NJ groups. I am from the southern branch, 4 great grandfather Peter Marsalis died in Amite Co., MS 1846. Just wanted to see if there were other researchers out there. Kay Fleming Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Denise, This is a terrific effort, and thanks for posting updates as you go along, as you are now. The thing we absolutely need is source references for everything. Primary sources are best, of course, but in their absence secondary sources are helpful in that they're a starting point for primary source corroboration (though definitely shouldn't be taken as gospel unless they include primary source citations, no matter the reputation or past work of the author). I'm sure you agree that much incorrect material has been posted on the Internet and everywhere else. That material gets perpetuated, and once the viral infection has spread it is impossible to eradicate. If anyone shares any genealogical information with anyone, including family members, and doesn't note/know the original sources, the possibility of errors needs to be noted big bold and in caps on every single page of a document. Thanks again! Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: DAWells2@aol.com Date: Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:58 am Subject: [NJBERGEN] Bergen County biographies To: NJBERGEN@rootsweb.com > I am working on updating the Bergen County biographies. Please be > patient > as I add bios and make some changes with how this site is set up. > > _www.usgennet.org/usa/nj/county/bergen/_ > (http://www.usgennet.org/usa/nj/county/bergen/) > > The bios link is in the left column. > > Thanks. > > Denise > Bergen County, NJGenWeb > > > > > **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. > City's Best > 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJBERGEN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

An antique dealer mailed me a picture with the following on the back "Early Courter Family Ridgewood" I had posted the other Courter family picture taken in Caldwell Twsp to bergengenweb.? Where should I post this picture?? I do not think I can send an attachment to this mailing list. These are the Courter families that stayed in Ridgewood area. I am guessing photos is 1895 to 1920.? There are no older men in the picture.? One elderly woman. Descendant List of Abraham C. Courter - 12 Jun 2008 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Abraham C. Courter (1801-17 Apr 1891) ?+Ann Anna Marinus (1810-16 Apr 1891) . . 2-David A. Courter (11 May 1836-20 Aug 1922) . .? +Mary A. Folly (18 Jun 1839-20 Aug 1925) . . . . 3-Abraham A. Courter (Nov 1855-1920) . . . .? +Ellen "Ella" VanHorn (Apr 1856-aft 1930) . . . . . . 4-Ida Courter (abt 1876-) . . . . . . 4-Rachel Courter (abt 1880-) . . . . . . 4-David Henry Courter (Aug 1881-) . . . . 3-John William Courter (17 Jun 1858-1 May 1941) . . . .? +Stella Zabriskie (2 Sep 1861-8 Apr 1932) . . . . . . 4-Bessie Courter (6 Aug 1890-5 Feb 1979) . . . . 3-Katherine Catherine Ann "Kate" Courter (29 Jan 1861-6 Jul 1933) . . . .? +Jeremiah Carlock (15 Mar 1844-1920) . . . . . . 4-John D. Carlock (1878-1930) . . . . 3-George W. Courter (29 Jun 1863-9 Dec 1950) . . . .? +Mary E. Naugle (14 Apr 1872-20 Apr 1961) . . . . . . 4-Edith R. Courter (1 Jun 1891-) . . . . 3-Estella L. Courter (abt 1865-abt 1866) . . . . 3-Adella "Ella" Courter (1868-abt 1896) . . . .? +Joseph George Ochs (11 Mar 1866-4 Apr 1942) . . . . . . 4-Mae May Louise Ochs (1 Jun 1891-16 Jun 1947) . . . . . . 4-Edward G. Ochs (20 May 1893-22 Dec 1971) . . . . . . 4-Carrie C. Ochs (19 Jan 1895-) . . . . 3-Fanny M. Courter (May 1872-) . . . .? +Adolph T. Hubschmitt (May 1867-) . . . . . . 4-George C. Hubschmitt (28 Aug 1892-Jun 1984) . . . . . . 4-Lilly M. Hubschmitt (15 Aug 1897-20 Dec 1996) . . . . . . 4-Mabel R. Hubschmitt (17 Apr 1904-May 1981) . . . . 3-Frank Courter (1874-28 Aug 1892) . . . . 3-Baby Courter (9 Nov 1880-14 Nov 1880) . . 2-Benjamin A. Courter (9 Aug 1844-26 May 1925) . .? +Ellen Zabriskie (26 Apr 1859-30 Apr 1937) . . . . 3-Everett Henry Courter (4 Oct 1887-23 Aug 1942) . . . .? +Ophelia McKeon Sandford (13 Oct 1888-24 Jun 1950) . . 2-Andrew Courter (12 Aug 1844-14 Apr 1917) Descendant List of William A. Courter - 12 Jun 2008 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-William A. Courter (1803-14 Mar 1890) ?+Eliza Brown (1819-19 May 1880) . . 2----- Courter (10 Jan 1851-) . . 2-Aaron Courter (7 May 1856-) . .? +Clara Henderson (Feb 1856-) . . . . 3-Susie Henderson Courter (24 Oct 1885-) . . . . 3-Raymond Courter (3 Feb 1893-1894) . . . . 3-William A. Courter (Jul 1896-) . . 2-John Henry W. Courter (12 Oct 1858-27 Mar 1906) . . 2-Catherine Sophia Courter (8 May 1861-1908) Descendant List of James Courter - 12 Jun 2008 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-James Courter (10 Apr 1807-2 Mar 1899) ?+Hannah Forshay (18 Mar 1813-17 Aug 1883) . . 2-Maria Catherine Courter (8 Jan 1834-11 Apr 1914) . .? +Abraham Demarest (29 Aug 1836-29 May 1905) . . . . 3-Ida Demarest (7 Dec 1859-28 Mar 1941) . . . .? +Thomas Smith (1853-) . . . .? +Henry Westphal (1858-) . . . .? +John Jackson Freeland (1864-) . . . . 3-Mary Sophia Demarest (19 Dec 1861-) . . . . 3-Anna Melissa Demarest (14 Jun 1864-8 Apr 1945) . . . .? +Thomas William Foyle (-) . . . . . . 4-Clara Foyle (-) . . . . . . 4-Roy S. Foyle (20 Nov 1892-Jun 1966) . . . . . . 4-Alberta Foyle (6 Oct 1901-24 Jun 1970) . . . . . . 4-Carleton Foyle (21 May 1904-2 Aug 1974) . . . . 3-James Irwin Demarest (20 Nov 1866-28 Sep 1894) . . . .? +Ella Tattersall (1869-19 Mar 1901) . . . . 3-Clara Demarest (Jan 1870-7 Jun 1948) . . . .? +George Hine (abt 1869-30 Apr 1950) . . . . . . 4-Edith Hine (8 Oct 1892-) . . . . 3-John Henry Demarest (1873-) . . . .? +Augusta Burkhardt (1 Nov 1872-15 Oct 1920) . . . . . . 4-Hazel Demarest (3 Sep 1896-14 Aug 1898) . . . . . . 4-Raymond Demarest (13 Mar 1898-28 Nov 1898) . . 2-Aaron Courter (27 Feb 1837-5 Jul 1922) . .? +Emeline Evaline "Emma" Folly (6 Apr 1844-15 Oct 1921) . . . . 3-James Henry Courter (9 Dec 1864-2 Mar 1950) . . . .? +Hattie Vincent (-) . . . .? +Minnie M. Voorhees (19 May 1867-23 Feb 1951) . . . . 3-Abraham Courter (1869-) . . . . 3-John Russell Courter (2 May 1872-27 Sep 1950) . . . .? +Carrie Amelia Mowerson (30 Oct 1873-29 Dec 1936) . . . . . . 4-Lucy B. Courter (30 Jun 1894-Nov 1980) . . . . . . 4-James Russell Courter (18 Jul 1896-2 Sep 1896) . . . . . . 4-Ada M. Courter (14 Jun 1898-22 Jun 1962) . . . . . . 4-John Allen Courter (31 Jul 1902-2 May 1923) . . . . . . 4-Ralph M. Courter (11 Jun 1906-6 Sep 1948) . . . . . . 4-Harold Spencer Courter (15 Jun 1909-26 Jun 1981) . . . . . . 4-Charles Irving Courter (9 May 1913-29 Sep 1923) . . . . . . 4-Emily Courter (6 Dec 1914-28 Mar 2008) . . . . . . 4-Cora Courter (27 Jun 1917-3 Jul 2003) . . . .? +Etta Osborn (1877-) . . . . 3-Edward Courter (8 Feb 1877-28 Nov 1969) . . . .? +Alice D. Captain (1877-1930) . . . . . . 4-Charles Earle Courter (24 Sep 1899-12 Feb 1949) . . . . . . 4-Aaron E. Courter (5 Dec 1900-2 Aug 1991) . . . .? +Jewell Ayers (-) . . . . 3-Ada Courter (7 Sep 1879-30 Mar 1949) . . . .? +Simon VanDuyne Samuel Darling (4 Jun 1876-) . . . . . . 4-James Albert Darling (7 Sep 1902-29 Mar 1981) . . . . . . 4-Minnie Mae Darling (15 Mar 1907-31 Jan 1993) . . . . . . 4-William Russell Darling (Jun 1909-1944) . . . . . . 4-Ethel C Darling (May 1912-) . . . . . . 4-Mildred Darling (Aug 1915-11 Dec 1949) . . . . . . 4-Lora Darling (Dec 1918-) . . 2-Sophia Courter (21 Jan 1839-21 Mar 1904) . .? +Henry J. VanWinkle (3 Dec 1837-5 Jun 1892) . . . . 3----- VanWinkle (8 Aug 1860-1 Sep 1860) . . . . 3-Hannah Melissa Elizabeth VanWinkle (Sep 1867-26 Apr 1936) . . 2-Samuel Peter Courter (26 Dec 1840-30 Apr 1901) . .? +Sarah Catherine Whybel (Nov 1846-5 Dec 1926) . . . . 3-James Oliver Courter (1867-19 May 1927) . . . .? +Emma J. Cadmus (Apr 1864-1933) . . . . 3-Charles William Courter (16 Aug 1872-19 Aug 1926) . . . .? +Caroline "Orsalina' Kough (14 Aug 1869-19 Nov 1903) . . . . . . 4-Sarah C. Courter (Jan 1897-) . . . . . . 4-Samuel George Courter (6 Jul 1898-Jan 1952) . . . . . . 4-Robert Courter (abt 1902-) . . . .? +Margaret "Daisy" Martin (abt 1872-) . . . . . . 4-Ruth Courter (abt 1908-) . . . . . . 4-Oliver Courter (abt 1911-) . . . . 3-Elida Melinda Courter (1872-) . . . . 3----- Courter (1875-1875) . . . . 3-Sophia Courter (1878-1951) . . . .? +---- Fox (-) . . . . 3-George W. Courter (Oct 1882-Feb 1964) . . . .? +Grace Fredericks (abt 1887-1957) . . . . . . 4-Gordon W. Courter (abt Jun 1918-Dec 1980) . . . . 3-Laura "Loula" Courter (14 Dec 1886-Feb 1976) . . . .? +George Doremus (8 Aug 1889-Jan 1968) . . . . . . 4-Mildred Doremus (abt 1912-) . . 2-Christiana Courter (Apr 1844-20 Jun 1926) . .? +Adrian Guy VanHouten (Apr 1847-24 Apr 1911) . . . . 3-Anna Jennette VanHouten (26 Jun 1873-) . . . .? +Elmer W. See (1870-5 Mar 1913) . . . . . . 4-Elmon B. See (-) . . 2-Dorcas Courter (15 Mar 1848-16 Dec 1938) . .? +James David Carlough (17 Oct 1845-26 Dec 1929) . . . . 3-Otto Fielden Carlough (19 Apr 1869-18 Jan 1870) . . . . 3-Arthur Winfield Carlough (6 May 1871-10 Jul 1927) . . . .? +Minnie Amelia Beers (3 Jul 1874-30 Mar 1950) . . . . . . 4-Arthur Russell Carlough (15 Jul 1895-31 Jul 1895) . . . . . . 4-Reva Marie Carlough (22 Sep 1896-25 Apr 1953) . . . . . . 4-Mona Dorcas Carlough (25 Nov 1898-8 Mar 1975) . . . . . . 4-Winfield Arthur Carlough (17 Sep 1901-2 Apr 1973) . . . . . . 4-James Dudley Carlough (24 Feb 1904-16 Aug 1967) . . . . . . 4-Myrtle Adella Carlough (31 Jul 1906-13 Nov 1948) . . . . . . 4-Beatrice Isabelle Carlough (12 Sep 1908-11 Jul 1993) . . . . . . 4-David James Carlough (20 Jan 1910-29 Jun 1934) . . . . . . 4-Minnie Amelia Carlough (3 Sep 1913-1 May 1914) . . . . . . 4-Carlton Beers Carlough (29 Oct 1914-1 Nov 1987) . . . . 3-Ezariah Miller Carlough (15 Apr 1873-18 Jun 1953) . . . .? +Minnie Hennion (11 Aug 1872-18 Mar 1954) . . . . . . 4-James Leroy Carlough (3 Jul 1894-18 Feb 1975) . . . . . . 4-Harry M. Carlough (23 Nov 1895-13 Feb 1919) . . . . . . 4-Clarence H. Carlough (20 Aug 1898-17 Jun 1968) . . . . . . 4-Everett Carlough (21 Sep 1900-6 Aug 1902) . . . . . . 4-Melvin E. Carlough (30 Oct 1903-12 Aug 1937) . . . . . . 4-Minnie A Carlough (21 Aug 1911-20 Apr 1919) . . . . . . 4-Ezra Miller Carlough (17 Sep 1913-30 Mar 1980) . . . . 3-Dora Mabel Carlough (19 Oct 1874-18 Feb 1972) . . . .? +Hosey Archibald Gamble (2 Dec 1876-1 Jan 1962) . . . . . . 4-Margaret Ann Gamble (12 Aug 1900-8 May 1993) . . . . . . 4-Dorothy F. Gamble (24 Jun 1903-27 Aug 1962) . . . . . . 4-Archibald James Gamble (28 Jun 1914-22 Oct 1992) . . . . . . 4-Hosey A. Gamble (5 Apr 1920-8 Apr 1920) . . . . 3-Theresa Maud Carlough (4 Sep 1876-1 Jun 1929) . . . .? +John Wilbur Vanderbeek (9 Dec 1876-Jan 1922) . . . . . . 4-Otto Jacob Vanderbeek (10 Mar 1900-6 Dec 1974) . . . . . . 4-Floyd James Vanderbeek (1 Aug 1902-10 Mar 1978) . . . . . . 4-John Wilbur Vanderbeek (2 May 1904-7 Aug 1976) . . . . . . 4-Hilda Maud Vanderbeek (19 Nov 1907-19 Jan 1987) . . . . 3-Anna Belle Carlough (12 Aug 1878-5 Jul 1957) . . . .? +George Addison Beers (4 Nov 1877-26 May 1947) . . . . . . 4-Lureta Rosella Beers (10 Dec 1898-20 Apr 1971) . . . . . . 4-Milton Joseph Beers (14 Apr 1901-1 Apr 1994) . . . . . . 4-Addison David Beers (5 Oct 1904-29 Sep 1989) . . . . . . 4-Marion Ida Beers (17 Oct 1907-14 Aug 1908) . . . . . . 4-Arthur George Beers (6 May 1909-14 Jan 1991) . . . . . . 4-Mildred Belle Beers (4 Oct 1912-) . . . . 3-David James Carlough (28 Feb 1884-7 Oct 1960) . . . .? +Nanetta Gross (31 Mar 1884-24 Feb 1946) . . . . . . 4-Evelyn Dorcas Carlough (15 Aug 1910-27 Jan 1991) . . . . . . 4-James Bertram Carlough (5 Feb 1912-1919) . . . . . . 4-Clinton David Carlough (2 Jul 1913-20 Nov 1996) . . . . . . 4-Emroy Bonita Carlough (1 May 1915-) . . . . . . 4-Doris Elizabeth Carlough (17 Jan 1917-) . . . . 3-Lizzie May Carlough (4 Nov 1887-2 Oct 1983) . . . .? +Stephen Joseph Goetschius (24 Sep 1882-2 Oct 1962) . . 2-Hannah Melissa Courter (28 Feb 1850-23 Dec 1860) . . 2-Hester Elizabeth Ellen Courter (16 Mar 1854-bef 1920) . .? +Cornelius L. Snyder (22 Sep 1849-) . . . . 3-Minnie Snyder (abt 1876-) . . . . 3-Henry Snyder (May 1877-) . . . .? +Lucy ---- (Oct 1878-) . . . . . . 4-George M. Snyder (Aug 1902-) . . . . . . 4-Marion Snyder (Mar 1907-) . . . . 3-Samuel Albert C. Snyder (Oct 1879-) . . . . 3-Frederick Snyder (Nov 1882-) . . . . 3-Adrian Snyder (Feb 1885-) . . . .? +Minnie Singer (4 Apr 1884-) . . . . . . 4-Hazel Snyder (Jul 1909-) . . . . . . 4-Harold Snyder (Jul 1910-Nov 1976) . . . . . . 4-Mildred Snyder (Feb 1912-) . . . . . . 4-Adrian Snyder (abt Jun 1915-) . . . . 3-Nora Snyder (Sep 1889-) Descendant List of Isaac C. Courter - 12 Jun 2008 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Isaac C. Courter (2 Sep 1813-6 Aug 1898) ?+Sarah Sally Storms (19 Apr 1815-29 Jun 1877) . . 2-Sophia Catherine Courter (12 Dec 1835-20 Feb 1902) . .? +Benjamin Everson (20 Dec 1833-21 Feb 1864) . . . . 3-John Jeremiah Everson (25 Jul 1855-abt 1943) . . . .? +Charity Ella Conklin (10 Apr 1856-10 Dec 1938) . . . . . . 4-Russell Benjamin Everson (24 Feb 1881-abt 1958) . . . . . . 4-Walter J. Everson (5 Jul 1884-abt 1947) . . . . . . 4-Elizabeth Everson (4 Aug 1889-) . . . . . . 4-Katherine Elmira Everson (4 Mar 1895-) . . . . 3-Isaac Newton Everson (27 Dec 1858-27 Dec 1943) . . . .? +Mary Jane Straut (4 Apr 1856-28 Jun 1931) . . . . . . 4-Estella Elizabeth Everson (17 Jan 1880-9 Jul 1960) . . . . . . 4-John Benjamin Everson (9 Jan 1887-3 Oct 1950) . . . . 3-Sarah Elizabeth Everson (29 Dec 1861-14 Apr 1949) . . . .? +John Johnson (Jan 1855-) . . . . . . 4-John Johnson (Sep 1883-) . . . . . . 4-Irene Johnson (Sep 1892-) . .? +Elias Folly (abt 1827-) . . 2-Rachel Jane Courter (5 Mar 1838-30 Jun 1852) . . 2-William I. Courter (18 May 1840-5 Oct 1881) . .? +Maria Campbell (17 Dec 1837-27 Jul 1926) . . 2-Andrew I. Storms Courter (Mar 1843-21 Oct 1904) . . 2-Aaron I. Courter (12 Apr 1846-8 Jul 1911) . .? +Sarah Margaret Starr (11 May 1853-17 Dec 1916) . . . . 3-Daniel Aaron Courter (8 Jul 1871-bef 1909) . . . .? +Susie Straut (Mar 1874-) . . . . . . 4-Elmer Courter (abt 1895-) . . . . . . 4-Mary Emma Courter (Jun 1896-1909) . . . . . . 4-Ada Courter (Dec 1899-17 Aug 1902) . . . . . . 4-Daniel Everett Courter (14 Jun 1901-May 1976) . . . . . . 4-Ethel Courter (14 Jun 1901-Apr 1981) . . . . 3-Sarah M. Courter (3 Nov 1874-30 Oct 1931) . . . .? +Walter Haring (5 Dec 1867-4 Feb 1932) . . . . . . 4-Margaret Haring (14 Jun 1894-8 Jul 1962) . . . . . . 4-Sarah Maude Haring (5 May 1900-10 Nov 1985) . . . . . . 4-John Walter Haring (12 May 1902-12 Jan 1972) . . . . . . 4-Elsworth Harold Haring (13 Jun 1909-29 Jun 1995) . . . . . . 4-Richard Haring (17 Apr 1918-9 Aug 1984) . . 2-Ann Elizabeth Courter (28 Aug 1848-) . . 2-Sarah Leah Courter (7 Apr 1852-) . . 2-Leah Jane "Jennie" Courter (1 Sep 1853-10 Apr 1932) . .? +Andrew Jacob Osborne (Jul 1854-25 Nov 1931) . . . . 3-Maud L. Osborne (abt 1879-23 Jun 1899) . . . .? +Andrew J. Sisco (abt 1879-abt 1899) . . 2-Sarah Anna "Annie" Courter (8 Mar 1856-16 Jan 1936) . . 2-James Henry Courter (17 Jun 1859-5 Jul 1937) . .? +Emma D. Douglas (7 Nov 1853-21 Feb 1934) . . . . 3-Jennie "Fannie" Douglas Courter (11 Sep 1881-) . . . . 3-William Isaac Courter (22 Feb 1892-19 Dec 1979) . . . .? +Ida Mae Thompson (abt 1891-29 Jul 1974) . . . . . . 4-Helen Courter (26 Jul 1921-) . . . . . . 4-Marion Courter (8 Dec 1922-) . . . . . . 4-Ruth Jane Courter (17 Jan 1925-29 Sep 1997) . . . . . . 4-Catherine Lola Courter (3 Apr 1926-23 Jul 1926) . . . . . . 4-Lila Grace Courter (3 Apr 1926-) ?+Margaret Quackenbush (9 Feb 1831-9 Jul 1918) Christina Courter married Albert Terhoune Benjamin married VanSaun and went to OH ajullman@aol.com? Judy Courter Ullman

I am working on updating the Bergen County biographies. Please be patient as I add bios and make some changes with how this site is set up. _www.usgennet.org/usa/nj/county/bergen/_ (http://www.usgennet.org/usa/nj/county/bergen/) The bios link is in the left column. Thanks. Denise Bergen County, NJGenWeb **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

Westchester County Genealogical Society (NY) Upcoming Meeting TOPIC: Christopher DiPasquale will present An Object of Great Importance: The Hudson River During the American War for Independence to WCGS at our meeting on June 14, 2008. Christopher DiPasquale is originally from Long Island, NY. Mr. DiPasquale graduated from Pace University with a degree in History and Secondary Education. He then earned a Master’s Degree in History from Queens College. Currently a teacher in Yorktown, NY, he is working on his PhD in History. During the American Revolution, the Hudson River was not just a waterway. It was a lifeline, a vital artery that the cause of liberty depended on. Along its banks and in its waters, many would die for what they believed in. Mr. DiPasquale will highlight all of this in his talk. MEETING INFO: TOPIC: An Object of Great Importance: The Hudson River During the American War for Independence SPEAKER: Christopher DiPasquale WHEN: Saturday, JUNE 14, 2008 @ 10 a.m. WHERE: Aldersgate Methodist Church, 600 Broadway in Dobbs Ferry (across from Mercy College on route 9) For information about Westchester County Genealogical Society (Westchester Connection or Surname List), visit WCGS home page -- _http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywcgs/_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywcgs/) (mailto:chorn0591@verizon.net) **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

sorry - I realized after I sent this that it was an extremely long address. Here it is converted to tiny url: http://preview.tinyurl.com/3mxmx5 [_Open in new window_ (http://preview.tinyurl.com/3mxmx5) ] In a message dated 6/10/2008 10:06:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ETHELKK@aol.com writes: In a message dated 6/10/2008 9:30:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, nancyterhune@optonline.net writes: You wrote: <Included in the records was a double murder: "Murder committed on the body of John Van Winkle and wife Jan 9 1850." Then later: "Johnson executed for the murder of John Van Winkle and wife April 30 1850" Does anyone know anything more about these murders? Hi Nancy, I was born in Hawthorne, Passaic County and the local story was of the Van Winkle murders. Yes, there was a murder in the very old sandstone house on Goffle Road opposite the 'duckpond'. From memory, it was an elderly couple murdered by the 'handyman'. If you find the story, please put it on line. Regards, Ethel Kay Konight **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJBERGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)