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    1. [NJBERGEN] John Bookholt
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: windyjoy1281 Surnames: Bookholt, Van Kleeck, Carr, Ellis Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3200/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for cousin John Bookholt and/or descendents, last known to be living in Oakland,NJ. John is the son of Kate Van Kleeck and John Bookholt, in the 1930's and 1940's family lived in Paterson, NJ, father John "Jack" was a bus driver. Linda Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    05/14/2007 06:57:59
    1. Re: [NJBERGEN] Ridgewood - circa 1855 questions
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DeanR53 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3199.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Joe, thanks for any assistance! I recently learned that a relative, (Clemow surname, forename: Shadrach/Shedrick)was born in Ridgewood, in either 1855 or 56. Maria the mother, son's name same as father; other sons may be present, as well. Shedrick Sr. worked in the mining trade,possibly as a mining agent/prospector according to family story. I was hoping to see if the surname appears on the 1855 state census for NJ; assume no directory would be around at that time. Clemow has been captured as clyma,clemo and clemon. All born England, with the exception of Shedrick Clemow born 1855/6. Looking to establish a location in town to determine a baptismal church (hopefully). Immigrants. thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    05/14/2007 09:16:54
    1. Re: [NJBERGEN] Bannerman Castle talk
    2. Barbara I see in your signature you describe yourself as an historian. I have seldom read such drivel as your account of the massacre of Glencoe and the origin of the Bannerman name. 38 were killed at the massacre of Glencoe and, although an unknown number who escaped the massacre died of exposure in the appalling winter conditions, the majority of the clan survived. Certainly the origin of the Bannerman name had nothing to do with the massacre. You can read the history of the Bannerman Clan here <http://www.scotclans.com/clans/Bannerman/history.html> I suggest that you stick to North American history where you might have some expertise. Ian Westergaard New Zealand. Program for Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 7PM at New City Library > Genealogical Society of Rockland County > Topic: Bannerman Castle > Speaker: Barbara Gottlock co-author of Bannerman Castle. > > On maps it is Pollopel Island: 6 3/4 acres of mostly > rock; 1,000 feet from the eastern shore of the Hudson just > north of Cold Spring; 50 miles north of New York City. > During the Revolutionary War, patriots unsuccessfully > tried to stop the British from advancing north of the > island by sinking 106 upright logs tipped in iron points > in the Hudson. Later, General George Washington approved > plans to use the island as a military prison. > The castle's builder, Frank Bannerman VI, was a Scottish > patriot, very proud of his descent from one of the few > MacDonald's to survive the massacre at Glencoe in 1692. > Acting on behalf of the Crown, a rival clan, the Campbells > , slaughtered all MacDonald males ages 12-70. One escaped > to the hills with the clan banner -- and from that day on, > his family name was Bannerman. > The Bannerman family immigrated to the United States in > 1854, when Frank was three, and settled in Brooklyn. At > the close of the Civil War, the U.S. government auctioned > off military goods by the ton, mostly to be scrapped for > their metal. Young Frank was one of the first to realize > that much of what was being sold had a market value higher > than scrap. Under his guidance, Bannerman's became the > world's largest buyer of surplus military equipment. When > they outgrew their store at 501 Broadway in NYC, they > looked around for a larger and safer location in which to > store their ammunition. Pollopel Island was selected. > Frank Bannerman personally designed the island's > buildings, docks, turrets, garden walls and moat in the > style of old Scottish castles. Almost all of it was done > without professional help from architects, engineers and > contractors. And all of it was elaborately decorated, from > biblical quotations cast into all fireplace mantles, to a > shield between the towers with a coat of arms, and a > wreath of thistle leaves and flowers. The castle was > constructed between 1901 and 1918. It was primarily an > ammunitions storage site but the Bannermans summered there > too. > Attend this interesting talk about a little known > architectural wonder and learn about the struggle to > maintain its existence. > > For more information, visit: > > http://www.hudsonriver.com/bannerman.htm > > > Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. > Historian, genealogist and attorney > 155 Polifly Road > Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 > (201) 567-9440 office > BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) > http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJBERGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message >

    05/13/2007 03:36:11
    1. Re: [NJBERGEN] Ridgewood - circa 1855 questions
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BOOSTER Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3199.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Dean, Whom are you looking for in Ridgewood in 1855. I will be in the Ridgewood Library tomorrow. I will look for your Conklin and can check the census records also. Joe suplicki, Ridgewood Co-Historian Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    05/13/2007 11:50:43
    1. Re: [NJBERGEN] Obituary please: 26 Mar 1992 Conklin
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tres33 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3184.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi ~ Try contacting the Bergen Record directly, I did that and was very successful (thru email). Their website is www.bergen.com Good luck! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    05/11/2007 02:35:26
    1. [NJBERGEN] Bannerman Castle talk
    2. Barbara de Mare
    3. Program for Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 7PM at New City Library Genealogical Society of Rockland County Topic: Bannerman Castle Speaker: Barbara Gottlock co-author of Bannerman Castle. On maps it is Pollopel Island: 6 3/4 acres of mostly rock; 1,000 feet from the eastern shore of the Hudson just north of Cold Spring; 50 miles north of New York City. During the Revolutionary War, patriots unsuccessfully tried to stop the British from advancing north of the island by sinking 106 upright logs tipped in iron points in the Hudson. Later, General George Washington approved plans to use the island as a military prison. The castle's builder, Frank Bannerman VI, was a Scottish patriot, very proud of his descent from one of the few MacDonald's to survive the massacre at Glencoe in 1692. Acting on behalf of the Crown, a rival clan, the Campbells, slaughtered all MacDonald males ages 12-70. One escaped to the hills with the clan banner -- and from that day on, his family name was Bannerman. The Bannerman family immigrated to the United States in 1854, when Frank was three, and settled in Brooklyn. At the close of the Civil War, the U.S. government auctioned off military goods by the ton, mostly to be scrapped for their metal. Young Frank was one of the first to realize that much of what was being sold had a market value higher than scrap. Under his guidance, Bannerman's became the world's largest buyer of surplus military equipment. When they outgrew their store at 501 Broadway in NYC, they looked around for a larger and safer location in which to store their ammunition. Pollopel Island was selected. Frank Bannerman personally designed the island's buildings, docks, turrets, garden walls and moat in the style of old Scottish castles. Almost all of it was done without professional help from architects, engineers and contractors. And all of it was elaborately decorated, from biblical quotations cast into all fireplace mantles, to a shield between the towers with a coat of arms, and a wreath of thistle leaves and flowers. The castle was constructed between 1901 and 1918. It was primarily an ammunitions storage site but the Bannermans summered there too. Attend this interesting talk about a little known architectural wonder and learn about the struggle to maintain its existence. For more information, visit: http://www.hudsonriver.com/bannerman.htm Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. Historian, genealogist and attorney 155 Polifly Road Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 (201) 567-9440 office BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/

    05/11/2007 06:40:57
    1. Re: [NJBERGEN] Ridgefield cemetery
    2. John Minke
    3. That would be the English Neighborhood Reformed Church. It is located along the former Bergen Turnpike running west from Ridgefield (that traffic circle if it is still there) towards the Hackensack River where it once crossed via ferry at Little Ferry. It has been 27 years since I was in the churchyard and it probably hasn't changed. The next closest cemetery (if that's not the one you are looking for) probably would be Fairview, which is the opposite direction. My grandparents are buried at Fairview. John in California Marilyn Clark <rvermar@escapees.com> wrote: Try this link. It looks like it's a churchyard cemetery. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=csr&CScn=Ridgefield&CScntry=4&CSst=33 Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Leonard" To: Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 10:53 AM Subject: [NJBERGEN] Ridgefield cemetery > Where is the Ridgefield Cemetery? I was raised there from 1947-1954, and I > don't recall a cemetery. Thanks, Robert Leonard > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJBERGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out.

    05/11/2007 01:48:51
    1. Re: [NJBERGEN] Ridgefield cemetery
    2. Marilyn Clark
    3. Try this link. It looks like it's a churchyard cemetery. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=csr&CScn=Ridgefield&CScntry=4&CSst=33 Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Leonard" <rgleonard@earthlink.net> To: <njbergen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 10:53 AM Subject: [NJBERGEN] Ridgefield cemetery > Where is the Ridgefield Cemetery? I was raised there from 1947-1954, and I > don't recall a cemetery. Thanks, Robert Leonard > >

    05/10/2007 05:02:26
    1. Re: [NJBERGEN] Ridgewood - circa 1855 questions
    2. Peggy Norris
    3. Before 1876, what is now Ridgewood was a part of Franklin Township.&nbsp; There is a State Census for 1855 and it is readable.&nbsp; The information is limited and it is not indexed.&nbsp; It&nbsp;names the&nbsp;head of household and then enumerates the members of the household by age and race only (similar to the pre-1850 Federal Censuses).&nbsp; This film can be ordered at a Family History Center.&nbsp; (FHL US/CAN Film 802944).&nbsp; Hope this helps in your search. &nbsp; Regards, Peggy Peggy W.Norris Ridgewood Public Library 125 No. Maple Ave. Ridgewood, NJ 07450 201-670-5600, ext. 135 pwnorris@ridgewoodlibrary.org -----Original Message----- From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" Sent: 5/7/2007 11:57:00 AM To: Cc: Subject: [NJBERGEN] Ridgewood - circa 1855 questions This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DeanR53 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3199/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I know ridgewood wasn't incorporated until 1894; so, in the 1852-1859 timeframe, if I wanted to search the NJ state census, would I find "Ridgewood"? I am looking to place two families in the "township'hamlet or whatever one would call it, to at least try and verify a "story" that a relative was born there about 1854/5. Has anyone any experience with viewing this census? Is it light and difficult to read? I just would like to find my right ancestors by finally finding them early in their arrival to limit my scope of hoping to find a church record. Anyone have any advice specific to Ridgewood in 1853-1859 tiemframe? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJBERGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/10/2007 04:09:23
    1. [NJBERGEN] Ridgefield cemetery
    2. Robert Leonard
    3. Where is the Ridgefield Cemetery? I was raised there from 1947-1954, and I don't recall a cemetery. Thanks, Robert Leonard

    05/10/2007 03:53:56
    1. Re: [NJBERGEN] Babetta Ertle in Ridgefield cemetery-need help!
    2. Hi Jackie, Thanks for the suggestion. I wonder how much they would want this time? :) I may do that, thank you for calling, I didn't want anyone else to incur long distance charges on my behalf. All of the cemeteries I have dealt within the south never ask for money. At first when I contacted one in New York by mail they did then when I called and got someone else they didn't ask for money. God bless, Beth -------------- Original message from Jackie Serna <jaserna@sympatico.ca>: -------------- > Beth, I would call them again at 201 9431231 and tell them you have > Albert Ertle died April 20 1907 and need to know who is in the grave > with him. I tried calling from Toronto, Ont for you but got voicemail to > leave a message or if need call Pastor ?? at 201 9416456. > I would think they would know who the owner of the plot and who else is > there by his name alone. No searching that I can see. I just called a > cemetery in Essex Mass and they sent me (for free) a printout of the > name I was interested in and did it with pride. > In 1870 and 1880 they were in New York. > > > Jackie (Toronto, Canada) > > deliaesther@att.net wrote: > > >Hi all, > > I have an ancestor named Babetta Ertle, I do not know her maiden name. > >She was born in 1832 in Switzerland. Her husband was Albert Ertle, he died in > 1907 and they are both buried along with some of their family at Ridgefield > Cemetery in Ridgefield. > > > >I do not have her date of death and that is what I need. She died between > 1910-1920. > >I called the cemetery several years ago, they knew I was from out of state, I > am in Virginia, and told me it would be $35.00 to check the plot or interment > cards, at the time, I was not sure they were buried there. > >A nice man a few years ago went there and took photos of the graves and said > the caretaker did a nice job and judging from the photos he sure does thank > goodness. > >Unfortunately her stone just said Mother. > >Her husband had two stones both with dates! One from the Catholic Church. > > > >But, anyway I still do no t know when my Babetta died. I have 2 photos of her. > > > >What does anyone suggest. I cannot find a website or an e-mail address for the > cemetery. > >Should I try calling them again about 5 years later or write? > > > >I even contacted by phone just recently the registrar of records and wanted > them to search for her but they say their records do not go back that far and > the state charges a fortune now for a record. Two years ago it was $4.00 and now > it is $25.00! Ridiculous. > > > >Help!! Any suggestions I would appreciate. > > > >Thank you. > > > >God bless, > > Beth in Va. > > deliaesther@att.net > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJBERGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJBERGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

    05/09/2007 12:32:12
    1. Re: [NJBERGEN] Babetta Ertle in Ridgefield cemetery-need help!
    2. Hi Marilyn, While I appreciate that I ma the one who put Albert's photo and grave on Fidn A Grave my name is there. As I mentioned in my letter, I already had tombstone photos and hers just said Mother no dates. That's not my problem what I need is the date of her death so I can proceed eventually to obtain an obit or death certificate. Again, I have photos of all of the tombstones at Ridgefield Cemetery that a man was nice enouigh to get me a few years ago. Thanks anyway. Beth -------------- Original message from "Marilyn Butler" <mlbutler@mindspring.com>: -------------- > Hi again... Out of curiousity I checked findagrave.com and found Albert > Ertle, with a photo too - the site could not find a Babette Ertle, but > mention of her is in the website for Albert. Good luck... > > Marilyn > > > -----Original Message----- > From: njbergen-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:njbergen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of deliaesther@att.net > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 11:10 AM > To: NJBERGEN@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NJBERGEN] Babetta Ertle in Ridgefield cemetery-need help! > > Hi all, > I have an ancestor named Babetta Ertle, I do not know her maiden name. > She was born in 1832 in Switzerland. Her husband was Albert Ertle, he > died in 1907 and they are both buried along with some of their family at > Ridgefield Cemetery in Ridgefield. > > I do not have her date of death and that is what I need. She died > between 1910-1920. > I called the cemetery several years ago, they knew I was from out of > state, I am in Virginia, and told me it would be $35.00 to check the > plot or interment cards, at the time, I was not sure they were buried > there. > A nice man a few years ago went there and took photos of the graves and > said the caretaker did a nice job and judging from the photos he sure > does thank goodness. > Unfortunately her stone just said Mother. > Her husband had two stones both with dates! One from the Catholic > Church. > > But, anyway I still do no t know when my Babetta died. I have 2 photos > of her. > > What does anyone suggest. I cannot find a website or an e-mail address > for the cemetery. > Should I try calling them again about 5 years later or write? > > I even contacted by phone just recently the registrar of records and > wanted them to search for her but they say their records do not go back > that far and the state charges a fortune now for a record. Two years ago > it was $4.00 and now it is $25.00! Ridiculous. > > Help!! Any suggestions I would appreciate. > > Thank you. > > God bless, > Beth in Va. > deliaesther@att.net > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJBERGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJBERGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

    05/09/2007 10:03:41
    1. [NJBERGEN] Babetta Ertle in Ridgefield cemetery-need help!
    2. Hi all, I have an ancestor named Babetta Ertle, I do not know her maiden name. She was born in 1832 in Switzerland. Her husband was Albert Ertle, he died in 1907 and they are both buried along with some of their family at Ridgefield Cemetery in Ridgefield. I do not have her date of death and that is what I need. She died between 1910-1920. I called the cemetery several years ago, they knew I was from out of state, I am in Virginia, and told me it would be $35.00 to check the plot or interment cards, at the time, I was not sure they were buried there. A nice man a few years ago went there and took photos of the graves and said the caretaker did a nice job and judging from the photos he sure does thank goodness. Unfortunately her stone just said Mother. Her husband had two stones both with dates! One from the Catholic Church. But, anyway I still do no t know when my Babetta died. I have 2 photos of her. What does anyone suggest. I cannot find a website or an e-mail address for the cemetery. Should I try calling them again about 5 years later or write? I even contacted by phone just recently the registrar of records and wanted them to search for her but they say their records do not go back that far and the state charges a fortune now for a record. Two years ago it was $4.00 and now it is $25.00! Ridiculous. Help!! Any suggestions I would appreciate. Thank you. God bless, Beth in Va. deliaesther@att.net

    05/09/2007 09:10:12
    1. Re: [NJBERGEN] Babetta Ertle in Ridgefield cemetery-need help!
    2. Jackie Serna
    3. Beth, I would call them again at 201 9431231 and tell them you have Albert Ertle died April 20 1907 and need to know who is in the grave with him. I tried calling from Toronto, Ont for you but got voicemail to leave a message or if need call Pastor ?? at 201 9416456. I would think they would know who the owner of the plot and who else is there by his name alone. No searching that I can see. I just called a cemetery in Essex Mass and they sent me (for free) a printout of the name I was interested in and did it with pride. In 1870 and 1880 they were in New York. Jackie (Toronto, Canada) deliaesther@att.net wrote: >Hi all, > I have an ancestor named Babetta Ertle, I do not know her maiden name. >She was born in 1832 in Switzerland. Her husband was Albert Ertle, he died in 1907 and they are both buried along with some of their family at Ridgefield Cemetery in Ridgefield. > >I do not have her date of death and that is what I need. She died between 1910-1920. >I called the cemetery several years ago, they knew I was from out of state, I am in Virginia, and told me it would be $35.00 to check the plot or interment cards, at the time, I was not sure they were buried there. >A nice man a few years ago went there and took photos of the graves and said the caretaker did a nice job and judging from the photos he sure does thank goodness. >Unfortunately her stone just said Mother. >Her husband had two stones both with dates! One from the Catholic Church. > >But, anyway I still do no t know when my Babetta died. I have 2 photos of her. > >What does anyone suggest. I cannot find a website or an e-mail address for the cemetery. >Should I try calling them again about 5 years later or write? > >I even contacted by phone just recently the registrar of records and wanted them to search for her but they say their records do not go back that far and the state charges a fortune now for a record. Two years ago it was $4.00 and now it is $25.00! Ridiculous. > >Help!! Any suggestions I would appreciate. > >Thank you. > >God bless, > Beth in Va. > deliaesther@att.net > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJBERGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

    05/09/2007 08:21:17
    1. Re: [NJBERGEN] Babetta Ertle in Ridgefield cemetery-need help!
    2. Marilyn Butler
    3. Hi again... Out of curiousity I checked findagrave.com and found Albert Ertle, with a photo too - the site could not find a Babette Ertle, but mention of her is in the website for Albert. Good luck... Marilyn -----Original Message----- From: njbergen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:njbergen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of deliaesther@att.net Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 11:10 AM To: NJBERGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [NJBERGEN] Babetta Ertle in Ridgefield cemetery-need help! Hi all, I have an ancestor named Babetta Ertle, I do not know her maiden name. She was born in 1832 in Switzerland. Her husband was Albert Ertle, he died in 1907 and they are both buried along with some of their family at Ridgefield Cemetery in Ridgefield. I do not have her date of death and that is what I need. She died between 1910-1920. I called the cemetery several years ago, they knew I was from out of state, I am in Virginia, and told me it would be $35.00 to check the plot or interment cards, at the time, I was not sure they were buried there. A nice man a few years ago went there and took photos of the graves and said the caretaker did a nice job and judging from the photos he sure does thank goodness. Unfortunately her stone just said Mother. Her husband had two stones both with dates! One from the Catholic Church. But, anyway I still do no t know when my Babetta died. I have 2 photos of her. What does anyone suggest. I cannot find a website or an e-mail address for the cemetery. Should I try calling them again about 5 years later or write? I even contacted by phone just recently the registrar of records and wanted them to search for her but they say their records do not go back that far and the state charges a fortune now for a record. Two years ago it was $4.00 and now it is $25.00! Ridiculous. Help!! Any suggestions I would appreciate. Thank you. God bless, Beth in Va. deliaesther@att.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJBERGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/09/2007 06:30:08
    1. Re: [NJBERGEN] Babetta Ertle in Ridgefield cemetery-need help!
    2. Marilyn Butler
    3. If you go to www.findagrave.com you may find your ancestors at the Ridgefield Cemetary. I have 3 ancestors there (Newkirk) - and you can click on the blue box at the right and request a photo of the grave. I understand it can take some time, but it usually gets done by a volunteer. I am awaiting photos of my Newkirks! Good luck! Marilyn -----Original Message----- From: njbergen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:njbergen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of deliaesther@att.net Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 11:10 AM To: NJBERGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [NJBERGEN] Babetta Ertle in Ridgefield cemetery-need help! Hi all, I have an ancestor named Babetta Ertle, I do not know her maiden name. She was born in 1832 in Switzerland. Her husband was Albert Ertle, he died in 1907 and they are both buried along with some of their family at Ridgefield Cemetery in Ridgefield. I do not have her date of death and that is what I need. She died between 1910-1920. I called the cemetery several years ago, they knew I was from out of state, I am in Virginia, and told me it would be $35.00 to check the plot or interment cards, at the time, I was not sure they were buried there. A nice man a few years ago went there and took photos of the graves and said the caretaker did a nice job and judging from the photos he sure does thank goodness. Unfortunately her stone just said Mother. Her husband had two stones both with dates! One from the Catholic Church. But, anyway I still do no t know when my Babetta died. I have 2 photos of her. What does anyone suggest. I cannot find a website or an e-mail address for the cemetery. Should I try calling them again about 5 years later or write? I even contacted by phone just recently the registrar of records and wanted them to search for her but they say their records do not go back that far and the state charges a fortune now for a record. Two years ago it was $4.00 and now it is $25.00! Ridiculous. Help!! Any suggestions I would appreciate. Thank you. God bless, Beth in Va. deliaesther@att.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJBERGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/09/2007 06:25:18
    1. Re: [NJBERGEN] Bergen County Coverlets on eBay
    2. Bill Forshay
    3. Regina: Thanks for the information. They are from my collateral line and I don't have some of them. I don't want to go to far off the main trail. Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regina Haring <rmharing@att.net> wrote: Dear Bill, The Elizabeth Bogert you refer to is much earlier - she lived from 1714 to 1787 and was married to Egbert (it should be Elbert, but I have seen Egbert in one reference) Haring, of the 3rd generation. He was named for his maternal aunt (Catherine Bogert)'s husband, Elbert Lieverse. He was the son of Peter who was the first son of the immigrant, Jan Pieterse Haring. Then, from Ackerman and I have not re-checked it - Elbert Peter Haring was first married to Catherine Lent - they had three daughters, but only one survived, Catharina. Then he married Elizabeth Bogert, daughter of Nicholas Bogert and Margaret Consilyea Van Tieburg. They had a large family of 13. Those who seem to have survived are Margaret, Pieter, Cornelia, Elizabeth, Annatjie, Nicholas, Mary, Sarah and Abraham. Three infants died, an Elbert, Abraham and Nicholas - a second Elbert (Ackerman incorrectly calls him Egbert) died at age 25, presumably unmarried. Ackerman does not follow Pieter, don't know why. The Elizabeth Bogert whose coverlet is referred to was born in 1811 and died the last day of 1890. She was married to Peter David Haring of the 7th generation who lived from 1807 to 1864. This Elizabeth Bogert was the daughter of Mattheus Bogert and Maria Demarest. Regards, Regina Haring http://www.dutchdoorgenealogy.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Forshay" To: Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [NJBERGEN] Bergen County Coverlets on eBay > Regina: > > Can you give me some information on the Elizabeth Bogert? I have a > Elizabeth Bogert married to a Egbert Haring. They had a daughter Mary. But > that is all the info I have on this couple. Is she the same as your > Elizabeth? > > Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Regina Haring wrote: Thank you Nancy. To me it seems > unlikely that the Elizabeth Bogert who > married John Quackenbush in 1838 would have obtained a coverlet three > years > before she married. So I'm inclined to think that it did indeed belong to > "our" Elizabeth/Betsey Bogert Haring. Her detailed will which is listed > on > my Dutch Door website shows that she bequeathed a ten pound light blue and > dark blue blanket to daughter Anna Maria Onderdonk, who also received the > album quilt which the Bergen Historical Society now holds. Son Samuel > Bogert Haring received a crazy quilt (where, oh where, is it now?) and a > blue and white blanket. I foolishly never realized that the "blankets" > referred to those precious and beautiful jacquard coverlets! > > Betsey's will is given under the Clifford Masten Haring Family Records > page > of Dutch Door. > > Regina Haring > http://www.dutchdoorgenealogy.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 7:56 PM > Subject: Re: [NJBERGEN] Bergen County Coverlets on eBay > > >> Regina, >> >> According to her family's Bible, that Elizabeth (aka Eliza) Ann Bogert, >> dau. of Cornelius C. and Jane Anderson, was born 25 June 1816 and died 22 >> Mar 1853. HS Ackerman, in "Bogert Families" (self-pub., undated), p. >> 614, >> has her marriage to John James Quackenbush as 27 June 1838 at First >> Reformed, Hackensack. >> >> Nancy >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Regina Haring >> Date: Monday, April 30, 2007 4:50 pm >> Subject: Re: [NJBERGEN] Bergen County Coverlets on eBay >> To: njbergen@rootsweb.com >> >>> I would like to know if the first coverlet, made for Elizabeth >>> Bogert in >>> 1835, was made for my son's ggggrandmother of that name. She >>> was born in >>> 1811, married Peter D. Haring in 1828, and her still existing >>> home is at 327 >>> Tappan Road, Norwood, NJ and dates from 1836. In her will she >>> bequeathed to >>> her son Samuel Bogert Haring a ten pound woolen blanket, white >>> and blue - >>> doesn't this sound like it? >>> >>> The other Elizabeth Bogert mentioned in the description of the >>> quilt was >>> married to a John Quackenbush. Does anyone know anything about >>> that >>> family - dates, etc. - so that that Elizabeth Bogert could be >>> considered? >>> Regina Haring >>> http://www.dutchdoorgenealogy.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJBERGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Don't pick lemons. > See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! 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    05/08/2007 10:58:55
    1. [NJBERGEN] Ridgewood - circa 1855 questions
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DeanR53 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3199/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I know ridgewood wasn't incorporated until 1894; so, in the 1852-1859 timeframe, if I wanted to search the NJ state census, would I find "Ridgewood"? I am looking to place two families in the "township'hamlet or whatever one would call it, to at least try and verify a "story" that a relative was born there about 1854/5. Has anyone any experience with viewing this census? Is it light and difficult to read? I just would like to find my right ancestors by finally finding them early in their arrival to limit my scope of hoping to find a church record. Anyone have any advice specific to Ridgewood in 1853-1859 tiemframe? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    05/07/2007 09:18:25
    1. [NJBERGEN] Westchester County Genealogical Society (NY) Upcoming Meeting
    2. Westchester County Genealogical Society (NY) Upcoming Meeting Hope you can make it to the Westchester County Genealogical Society (WCGS) Upcoming Meeting! It will be this coming Saturday. TOPIC: “Italian Immigration thru the Port of New York and New Orleans” a talk by E.P. Vallone at their meeting on Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 10am. Guests are welcome. There will be refreshments and genealogical networking starting at 9:30am. E.P. Vallone is the author of the historical fictional novel based on a true story “Beyond Bagheria”. Elizabeth Vallone is a daughter of immigrant parents. She graduated from Montclair State University and Long Island University. Elizabeth is a teacher and freelance writer. After discussing different points of Italian immigration, Ms. Vallone will read excerpts from her novel which is about the life of a Sicilian girl. The meeting will be held at: WHEN: Saturday, May 12, 2007 @ 10 a.m. WHERE: Aldersgate Methodist Church, 600 Broadway in Dobbs Ferry, New York (across from Mercy College on route 9) Hope you can come on Saturday! For information about Westchester County Genealogical Society (Westchester Connection or Surname List), visit WCGS home page -- _http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywcgs/_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywcgs/) RESERVED THESE DATES FOR WCGS Future Meetings June 9, 2007 Incorporating Memoirs into Fiction Edith Glass ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

    05/07/2007 09:10:51
    1. [NJBERGEN] Westchester County Genealogical Society (NY) Upcoming Meeting
    2. Westchester County Genealogical Society (NY) Upcoming Meeting Hope you can make it to the Westchester County Genealogical Society (WCGS) Upcoming Meeting! It will be this coming Saturday. TOPIC: “Italian Immigration thru the Port of New York and New Orleans” a talk by E.P. Vallone at their meeting on Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 10am. Guests are welcome. There will be refreshments and genealogical networking starting at 9:30am. E.P. Vallone is the author of the historical fictional novel based on a true story “Beyond Bagheria”. Elizabeth Vallone is a daughter of immigrant parents. She graduated from Montclair State University and Long Island University. Elizabeth is a teacher and freelance writer. After discussing different points of Italian immigration, Ms. Vallone will read excerpts from her novel which is about the life of a Sicilian girl. The meeting will be held at: WHEN: Saturday, May 12, 2007 @ 10 a.m. WHERE: Aldersgate Methodist Church, 600 Broadway in Dobbs Ferry, New York (across from Mercy College on route 9) Hope you can come on Saturday! For information about Westchester County Genealogical Society (Westchester Connection or Surname List), visit WCGS home page -- _http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywcgs/_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywcgs/) RESERVED THESE DATES FOR WCGS Future Meetings June 9, 2007 Incorporating Memoirs into Fiction Edith Glass ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

    05/07/2007 09:01:52