This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: meadking Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3173.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Could John Smith be related to my gg grandfather Benjamin H. Smith? Born 20 Jun 1846 in Orange Co. NJ. With the 1850 census placing him in Clinton, Essex and 1860 Newark ward 4, Essex? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Sue -- Thank you for posting those Smith wills. I have been following this discussion, but so far have had little to add, so haven't posted. I think I can identify the Hannah Fisher who married Albert Smith (and who was the author of one of those wills). Here is her family as I have it (I would appreciate any additions, corrections, etc.) -- Pat ------------------------- David Fisher, son of Michael Fisher & Maria -?-, m. Elizabeth (Achenbach?), dau. of (prob) John George Achenbach & Annatje Van Buskirk David Fisher was b. about 1764; d. after 13 April 1826; before 5 Jan 1827 prob. Ramsey, Franklin Twp., Bergen Co., NJ Elizabeth Achenbach was b. 3 June 1764; d. between 1 Nov 1854 & 24 May 1855 age 90, prob. Ramsey, Hohokus Twp. Her funeral was from the Saddle River Lutheran Church, after 1 November 1854 and before 24 May 1855.1 The will of David Fisher, (weak of body) of the Township of Franklin, was dated 13 April 1826 and proven 9 January 1827 in Bergen County. He mentioned first that he wished to receive a good Christian burial and that all his debts and funeral expenses be paid. Wife Elizabeth in addition to her dower rights was to receive the use of all household goods and furniture, during her widowhood, (except those herein disposed of). Sons Michael and David all tenements and real estate (subject to the right of dower of my wife, their mother). If they want to divide the land, David to have the tract with the old homestead. "Michael to have his share of apples from out of the orchard till he shall have apples of his own." Sons to receive all horses, wagons, harnesses, and other farming utensils and stock (except wool wife shall want for her use). Three daughters Maria, Hannah, and Catharine $15.00 each, one year after my death paid by sons. Remainder after death of wife to five children share and share alike. The executors were his trusty friends Christian Wanamaker and John Mandingo and the witnesses were Peter Westervelt and David Christie (signed with his mark). David Fisher signed with his mark.[David Fisher will (1827), Bergen County Will Book C: 169.]1 Since the daughters received only a small amount of money, and no outsets were mentioned, it is very likely that they were all already married and had received their shares; their husband's have not been identified.1 The old homestead, was undoubtedly the property in Franklin Township, David had inherited from his father Michael Fisher's will dated 6 January 1802 and probated 9 June 1802. From that will David inherited "the south part of my farm, being the part on which I now dwell, per survey by John D. Harin[g], on March 15, 1796" also "all my horses, horned cattle, sheep and live stock; bed, cupboard, wagon, weaving loom and other utensils." [Michael Fisher Will (1802) New Jersey Will 3229B.] His brother Michael was to receive the other half of the property, and the two of them were to pay their five brothers or their heirs and one sister $15 each. After the death of Mary all were to share equally in the estate.[Michael Fisher probate file (1802) No. 176, Bergen County Surrogate's office.]1 ---children of David Fisher & Elizabeth Achenbach: * Maria Fisher, b. about 1780--1811 * Hannah Fisher, b. about 1780-1811; d. after 17 March 1864; m. (1) -?-; m. (2) Albert Smith * Catherine Fisher (Catriena), b. about 1780-1811 (about 1888?); m. (poss) 9 Apr 1808 Kakiat Ref Ch, Peter Smith * Michael Fisher, b. about 1799-1800; m. Helena May (Ellen; Eleanor) * David Fisher, b. about May 1801; d. 24 Feb 1852 ae 50.9.-; buried Island Road Ref Chyd, Mahwah, NJ; m. Catherine May (Caty) ---Sources: [1] Information posted online Jan 2007 <nyrockla@rootsweb.com> by Maria (Ree) Hopper <reetree@optonline.net>; Marriage Records of the Reformed Dutch Church of West New Hempstead, New York 1774-1898, also known as "Kakiat" and presently referred to as "Brick Church" online at <http://www.dutchdoorgenealogy.com/> -- Pat & Walter Wardell Englewood, FL the.wardells@gte.net

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sbpeters Surnames: Smith Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3173.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Rae Thanks for looking. It gives me a place to concentrate my efforts, so I really appreciate the help you've given. Best regards, Sue Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Judy, Good to hear from you again! Knowing positively, though I really suspected as much, that the John I'm looking for was not the same John who was married to Abigail VanBlarcon is a big help. Part of my dilemma comes from knowing that in 1860 David Wanamaker, his wife Maria Smith (my 3x's great grandparents) and their daughter were enumerated with a Hannah Smith, who happened to be a nearby neighbor of Adam Folley and his family but not knowing how this Hannah was related. My goal is actually trying to figure out Maria's parents. Garret A. Smith and Rachel Hopper had a daughter Maria, who married Jacob Valentine. Edward Smith and Annetje (Annie) Tebow had a daughter Maria but she and her parents drop completely out of the records I have found after her sister Abigail was born, unless of course she turns out to be my Maria. I honestly was half convinced she was until I rediscovered that census record showing Maria and family with Hannah Smith. I know somewhere there is going to be a little piece of information that will lead me to the rest. You have shared so much with me, maybe the following information will help you. Here are the wills of two Hannah Smiths. The first I believe to be Hannah Folley Smith, she was the wife of John Smith. The second is Hannah Fisher Smith, second wife of Albert Smith, brother of John A Smith. In the name of God, Amen: I Hannah Smith now of the city of Paterson in the County of Passaic and State of New Jersey and the widow of John Smith, Late of the County of Bergen, now deceased....this is my last will and testament. Item I give and Bequeath unto my Grand Daughter Mary Banghart the wife of George Banghart of the City of Paterson....all my Lands, Tenemants, Hereditaments and Real Estate whatsoever and wheresoever, and all my Right, Title and Interest in any real estate whatsoever which I may have or be entitled to at the time of my Decease either in Law or Equity. Together with all my Goods and Chatels, personal property or money's which have heretofore been devised to me by Will by any and every person or persons whatsoever, which I am now entitled to or which I may be possessed of at the time of my Decease. And Lastly, I do hereby appoint my trusty friend George Banghart Executor of this my Last Will and Testament. Signed, Sealed, published and declared by the said Hannah Smith to be her Last Will and Testament in the presence of us this twenty sixth day of January A.D. Eighteen hundred and sixty. Erasure on first page and Word Granddaughter written over before execution 1850 census, page 151 District no. 17 Wayne Township, Passaic County, New Jersey Date: 22 July 1850 by Wm W Colfax 98/99 Peter A Smith, age 50, M, Farmer, NJ Sarah Smith, age 47, F, NJ Peter Smith Jr, 25, M, NJ Albert A Smith, 18, M, NJ Elizabeth Smith, 17, F, NJ Martha A Smith, 10, F, NJ 101/102 George W Banghart, 32, M, Laborer, NJ Mary Ann Banghart, 26, F, NJ John H Banghart, 10, M, NJ Martha A Banghart, 7, F, NJ The will of Hannah Fisher Smith: In the name of God Amen i Hannah Smith of the township of Hokokus County of Bergen and State of New Jersey, Being of sound minde memory and understanding...Also to provide for me and my first husband each a pair of Grave Stones worth fifty dollars a pair (item 1) I give and bequeath to my brother Michael Fisher the sum of five thousand Dollars (item 2) I give and bequeath to Rachael May wife of David May the sum of five hundred dollars (item 3) I give and bequeath to Maria Acker widow of Peter Acker the sum of two Hundred Dollars (item 4) I give and bequeath to Catherine Smith widow of Peter Smith the sum of two Hundred Dollars (item 5) I give and bequeath to Elizabeth wife of Garret Linkunn (Lincoln??) the sum of two Hundred Dollars (item 6) I give and bequeath to David Fisher son of my brother David two Hundred Dollars (item 7) I give and bequeath to ??? any Fisher son of my brother David the sum of two Hundred Dollars (item 8) I give and bequeath to John A Smith the sum of six Hundred and sixty six Dollars (item 8) I give and bequeath to Garret A Smith the sum of six Hundred and sixty six Dollars (item 9) I give and bequeath to Cornelius A Smith the sum of Six Hundred and sixty six Dollars (item 10) I give and bequeath to William Christopher the sum of one Hundred Dollars (item 11) I give and bequeath to Sally Smith wife of Peter Smith the sum of one Hundred Dollars (item 12) I give and bequeath to Elin granddaughter of Catherine Fisher the sum of one Hundred Dollars the said money to remain in the hands of my executors until the said Elin shall arrive at the age of eighteen and the executors shall be accountable for all the interest that Shall accrue on the same (item 13) I give and bequeath to Elizabeth daughter of Cornelius Quackenbush the sum of one Hundred Dollars the said money to remain in the hands of my executors...etc. (item 14) I give and bequeath to Susen Smith my best silk shall (item 15) I give and bequeath the remainder of wearing Appearil to my two sisters viz Mariah and Catherine each and equel share (item 16) if there is any surplus of money Left after paying all the Above Legacies then it must go to the Above Legatees each in proportion to what they are given Above (item 17) I give and bequeath to Michael Fisher, John A Smith, Garret A Smith,Cornelius A Smith All the hay and grain and householde furniture i am possessed of at the time of my Death to be equelly Divided betwean them share and share alike, and Lastley i Constitute and Appoint John A Smith, Garret A Smith, Cornelius A Smith Executors of this my Last will and testanent In witness whereoff i have hereunto set my hand and seal this seventeenth Day of March in the year of our Lord one thousand eight Hundred and sixty four signed sealed published and Declared by the said Hannah Smith to be her Last will and testanat in the presence of us who have here?? subscribed our names as witnessis the presence of the testant and of each athe(??) the words of money interlined in the twelfth Line before singing and sealing the same Levi Hopper, Jane Winter I hope the above information is a helpful addition to your records. 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I just looked at Pat Wardell notes and this John A. Smith son of Albert Smith could not have married Hannah Folly because he was married to Abigail VanBlarcom and she did not die until 1866. Prospect Methodist Church, by David Bartine, Abigail Van Blarcom, dau. of John Van Blarcom & Rebecca Tebow. John A. Smith was b. abt. Nov 1783; d. 7 Mar 1848, ae 64.5.-; buried Union Cem., Waldwick, NJ. Abigail Van Blarcom was b. 15 Sep 1786; d. 30 Apr 1866, ae 79.7.15; buried Union Cemetery, Waldwick, NJ In the marriage record, they were both of Franklin Township. John A. Smith probably ran a sawmill at Allendale by 1827. Their cemetery inscriptions at the Waldwick Union Cemetery were on the Lewis Van Blarcom monument. In the 1840 Federal Census, they were listed between William Shannon and Isaac I. Storms. This still leaves the mystery of Albert VanBlarcom, grandson of William Folly d before codicil of 1831. I have him as a dgt of Elizabeth Folly and a ? VanBlarcom but can not find any record of this couple. Judy Ullman ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: raepat1 Surnames: Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3173.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I fished through births for Bergen 1771 and 1772 and found nothing for John. However there is a family that might fit...re deeds Bergen. April 1 1754 Abel Smith gentleman of Ceaeoeus, Bergen County, New Jersey, to his sons Job and Daniel Smith of same 1000 pounds, by William Pinhorne deceased and Edward Earl. Signed Abel Smith (X): Wit David Taylor, James Edsal and Reynier van Giesen. This Daniel has many land transfers in Bergen and a son John is mentioned in at least one. John in turn is named as a witness in other deeds not related to his family...so he could have been a clerk at the deed office. He is too old for your John b abt 1771. This John could have had your John, but not reported in the church records...best I can do. Rae Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sbpeters Surnames: Smith, Folly Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3173.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Rae, Yes, I've found quite a bit of information over the years on the familysearch website. It's a fantastic site. Nothing concrete on my Smiths, however. I once thought I had found my line but now I'm not so sure, hence, my quest for any information I can find about John Smith, husband of Hannah Folly. I keep going back to the site to peruse and do periodically, happily find leads for some of my other lines. Many thanks for your suggestion, Sue Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I read with interest your answer regarding "Folly/Smith". Some of the names mentioned in the sales of land were familiar to me from my research. I have been researching my Newkirk ancerstors from Bergen and have been wanting to know more about land purchase and ownership. If I give you my family's ancestoral line, would you be able to help me?? Mattheus Cornelisse Van Niewkirk , born Dec. 4, 1642 in Holland - came to Bergen about 1665 from Flatbush where he arrived in 1656 with his brother Garret. He married Catryna Paulus about 1665 (his 2nd wife). They were married Aug. 15, 1686 in Bergen and both died in Bergen Paulus M. P. Newkirk, born Aug. 20, 1699 in Bergen - married Helen Spier June 18, 1728 in Schraalenburgh NJ - lived in Bergen, both died in Bergen. Jacob Newkirk, born Nov. 24, 1742 in Bergen - married Fitje Hennion 1769 in Bergen. Lived and died in Bergen Garret J. Newkirk, Born July 21, 1780 in Bergen - married Rachel Shepard 1785 - lived and died in Bergen Jacob J. Newkirk, born Nov. 26, 1807 in Bergen - married Elizabeth Brinkerhoff May 22, 1830. Lived and died in Bergen John Henry Newkirk, born Feb. 2, 1841 in Hudson Nj (Bergen?) - married Emma C. Coe March 19 1866. Since your answer to FollySmith was so complete and informative, I was hoping that you might help me as well. I have a census of 1860 in which it shows Jacob and Elizabeth with a great value of land, he was a farmer. His brother Garret was also a farmer and had the same value of land - $170,000 each. That seems like a tremendous amount of value and I wonder how much land that would be and where it was situated and how he came about getting it. By 1870 the land seems to have been sold, it seems that Jacob, and then his son, John, were living in the town of Bergen... with no land. Also! Jacob and Elizabeth show on their 1860 census that they had a young family living at their home who worked a coffee and spice shop from the house. The handwriting is difficult to read, but I think that family's name is Pandis, they had two small children. By 1870 they were no longer mentioned. Can you tell me anything about that? It seems the Newkirk's had land in the family from the beginning. I would be so anxious and so happy to get any information you might have!!! Thank you!!!!

>From land and probate records of William Folly you will find Hannah Folly married to John Smith. William Folly's neighbor was Albert Smith. Could Joha A. Smith first wife Abigail VanBlarcon have died and then he married Hannah Folly? 1778 William Folly owns 100 acres of land in Franklin. Neighbors were: Samuel Day, Isaac Sisco, Joost Degrote, William Dam, James Jachlin, Albert Cornall, Conrad Stagg, Henry Oldis, John Fell, Esq., Wiert Banta, Jacob Valentine, Henry Laubach. 1779 William Folly owns 100 acres of land in Franklin. He is on exempt list for 1779 with 100 acres of land. New neighbors were Philip Hoofman, Sylvester Sisco. Feb 1780 William Folly owns 50 acres of improved land 50 acres of unimpoved land. Next to him is a Peter Folly with 120 acres of improved land and 100 acres of unimproved land. This could be an error because John Fell, Esq. is not on list and he owns 220 acres in other tax records and he is not on this list. New neighbor was Michael Fisher. Aug 1780 He owns 40 acres of improved land and 60 acres of unimporved land. Neighbors seem to be different. They include: John Doremus, Jacob and Joost Debaun, Albert and Henry Terhune, Albert, Abraham and William Ackerman, Peter Goetchius. Dec 1780 He owns 40 acres of improved land and 60 acres of unimporved land. Added to this list of neighbors are Leah Terhune, more Ackerman and Hopper family. 1784 William Folly owns 100 acres of land in Franklin. The neighbors now switch back to list of people before Aug 1780. Added to list are Thomas and Peter Rapp. July 1785 He owns 40 acres of improved land and 40 acres of unimproved land. Neighbors were Joost DeBaun, Henry Ridner, Henry Oldis, Jo. Felt, Esq., Jacob Valentine, Cathearine Hoffman, Peter and Johan Rapp, Cornell Mires, Albert Hillson, Benj Oldis and Peter Post. Jul/Aug 1789 He owns 40 acres of improved land and 66 acres of unimproved land. Neighbors were John Fell, Esq., Conrad Pease, Joost Debaun, Coonrod Kenartin, Widow Mires, Johan Rapp, Jacob Valentine, Catharine Hoffman, Lodweichk Mighler, Peter and Richard Davis, Thom Dehart, and George Shilling. Jul/Aug 1791 William Folly owns 60 acres of improved land and 40 acres of unimporved land. Neighbors were Henry Burctolf, Chistian Ryerson, Wm Bell, Cornelius Lozear, Thomas Stagg, Corn Davis, Edward Earle, David Mandaville, Widow Myers, Peter Post, Henry Oldis, Henry Bisiloo, John Fell, Esq. and Morris Sharp. Jul/Aug 1792 William Folley owns 70 acres of improved land and 46 acres of unimproved land. Neighbors were Garret, Andrew, and John Hopper, Henry Bertolf, Wm Fell, Esq, Abr. Campbell, Christian Ryerman, Tho. Stagg, David Mandeville, Robert Beaty, Saml Bush, Abr. Debow, Conrad Knight, Wiert, David and Jacob Valentine and Albert Smith. Jul/Aug 1793 William Folly owns no land. Neighbors were Henry Bertholf, Wm Fell, Esq., John Parleman, John Hays, Wm Sutter, Albert Wilson, Henry Oldis and John Fell, Esq. Jul/Aug 1794 William Folly owns 100 acres of improved land and 70 acres of unimproved land. Neighbors were Andrew Hopper, Joseph Johnson, William Bell, Esq, Albert Wilson, John Perry, Moses Sharp, Peter Post, Henry Oldis, James Chenalds, Thomas Banta, James Devine, Robert Ferguson, Jacob Valentine, John Christopher, Albert Smith and John and David Valentine. Jul/Aug 1795 William Folly owns 100 acres of improved land and 57 acres of unimproved land. Neighbors were Hermanus Byart, Chris Ryerson, John Springer, Peter Tise, Wm Bell, Esq, Alber Wison, John Perry, Peter Post, Henry Oldis, Bavid Byard, Ja Chancellor, James Devine, Jacob, Wiert and David Valentine, Moses Sharp, Etta Stagg and James Stagg and Albert Smith. Jul/Aug 1796 William Folly owns 100 acres of improved land and 57 acres of unimproved land. Neighbors are Jacob Valentine, James Chancellor, John Perry, Henry Oldis, John Oldis, John, Tho and James Stagg and Morris Sharp. 1800 1 Dec 1800 Albert J. Zabriskie of New Barbados sells to William Folly of Franklin for $250 land in Franklin containing 14 acres. The land is a place called Holbergh by lands of Henry Brown and Thomas Wanamaker surveyed by James Demarest, Esq. Witnesses were Henry Zabriskie and Abrm. Westervelt. Interviewed 11 Dec 1800 by Abrm Westervelt. Recieved and Recorded 3 Jun 1801. "1 Dec 1800, Albert J. Zabriskie, Henry J. Zabriskie and Abraham J. Zabriskie, all farmers, of New Barbadoes Twsp., Bergen Co., New Jersey to Elshe Hopper, (widow of Garret Hopper), of Franklin Twsp., Bergen Co., NJ, $10.00, 5 acres in line of John Christopher. Signed Henry Zabriskie, Albert Zabriskie and Abraham Zabriskie. Wit: William (x) Folly and Abraham Westervelt." >From another deed of Henry and Mary Zabriskie to Thomas Wanamaker and Henry Brown on 1 May 1800 for 20 acres of land in Franklin. It describes area as the Great Meadow known by Dutch name "Holburgh". This land is by lot #122 of the Ramapo Tract. Other deeds describe a "Great Meadow" owned by Magdalena Valleau. >From the Bergen County Historical Society on a map dated 1963, C. K.Tholl, delineator, describes lot #122 owned by John Haring, Wm. Jenkins, and Wm. Traphagan 150 acres. This same map gives William Folley's or Valley's land as #203. The records of the Lutheran Ramapo Church which has early records of William and Elias Folly had landowners around tract #122 with the name Henry Frederick, David Fox, Samuel Bush, Isaac, George, and Henry Meyer, David, George and Henry Fox, Henry and Peter Wanamaker, Lucas Kiersted, Henry and Samuel Lareaux, John Barberie, Wm. Eckert, John Voss, Andrew Hopper, and David and John Christie. This lot is in Mahwah, Bergen County, NJ. Lot # 203 is southeast of lot #122. It is in the present town of Allendale. People on the above described Ramapo map surrounding lot #122 are the following: Peter Debow, no #, John Rap #197, Zabriskie #198, Wiert Valentine, #145, Catherine Hoofman #146, Cornelius Myers #174, William Sutton #20, Abraham & Henry Hopper, no #, Albert & Jacob Zabriskie #173, John Fell, no #, Benjamin Oldis #175. 1801 1 Jun 1801 Jeremiah and Susannah Youmans of NYC sell to William Folle of Franklin for $175 50/100 acres of land in Franklin The land is by the fork in the middle of the main road from Hoppertown to the Clove and other road leading to Campgaw. It is by land of Jacob Valentine and William and Morris Sharp. Albert Wilson and Jacob Garrabrant were witnesses. Interviewed 1 Jun 1801 by Jacob Terhune. Recorded and Received 4 Jun 1801. 1802 William Folly owns 50 acres of improved land and 57 acres of unimporved land. Jul/Aug 1813 William Folly owns 75 acres of improved land and 80 acres of unimpropved land. Next to him on alphabetical list are William Folly, Jr with 20 acres of improved land, David Folly, single man. 24 May 1806 (recorded 12 July 1806, Bergen Co. Y:169) Albert Zabriskie of the County of Bergen, yeoman, and Mary, his wife, conveyed to Peter Allen of the same place, Carpenter, for $175., 6-1/4 acres, 38 square rods in the Township of Franklin, beginning corner of land of William Folly; Abraham Ackerman; heirs of Peter Debow, deceased. Bounded N by William Folly; E by Abraham J. Ackerman; S by said Albert Zabriskie; E by land of heirs of Peter Debow. Signed by Albert Zabriskie, Mary Zabriskie (her mark). Witnessed by Abraham A. Quackenbush, Abrm. Westervelt. Aug 1814 William Folly owns 70 acres of improved land 25 acres of unimporved land. Next to him are William Folly, Jr. owning 30 acres of improved land 10 acres of unimproved land. Abraham Folly with 80 acres of improved land and 10 acres of unimproved land. David Folly a single man. Aug 1816 William Folly owns 50 acres of improved land and 25 acres of unimproved land. Twenty names away from him on list is Abraham Folly with 80 acres of improved land and 15 acres of unimproved land, then ten names away is William Folly, Jr. with 30 acres of improved land and 10 acres of improved land and then ten more acres away is David Folly with 20 acres of imporved land. Neighbors are John and Jacob Hopper, John Banta, Samuel Ryerson, Abrm Smith, Peter VanHouten, John Buskirdk, Wm. Campbell, Nicholas and Peter Bowman, Albert Westervelt, James Laroe, Towtye V. Boskirk, Henry and John Hopper, Aron G. Ackerman, Abr Vanriper, John Teslin, Margaret Frederick and Cornelius Zabriskie. Jun/Aug 1821 William Folly 44 acres of improved land and 33 acres of unimproved land. Adam Folly with 30 acres of unimproved land. Abraham Folly with 14 acres of improved land and 23 acres of unimproved land. William Folly, Jr. with 14 acres of improved land and 20 acres of unimproved land. 1822 William Folly with 44 acres of improved land and 33 acres of unimproved land. William Folly, Jr. with 14 acres of improved land and 20 acres of unimproved land. Adam Folly with 30 acres of unimproved land. Abraham Folly with 14 acres of improved land and 25 acres of unimproved land. 1824 7 Jan 1824 Willian and Anna Folly of Franklin sell to Abraham Folly of Franklin land in Franklin known as Fluata for $201.25. It is by land of Adam Folly, John W. Bogart, Jacob Bamper and Daniel Shurte. William and Anna were interviewed 12 Jan 1824 by Jno. A. Van Voorhees. Recorded and Received bon 29 Jan 1824. 1828 7 Jan 1828, Ann and William Folley, of Franklin, sells to Abraham Folly, of Franklin for $150 land containing 16 94/100. It is on the road from Ramapo to New Prospect, it is by lands of Adam Folly to lands of William Folly to lands of Abraham Foley. Witnesss, John A. VanVoorhees. Interviewed 9 Jan 1828 by John A. VanVoorhees. Received and Recorded 31 Jan 1828. 1832 The signature of Abraham Folley on this probate record as executor of his father, William Folley, and on his own probate record is identical. William Folley, of the the Township of Franklin, Bergen, NJ makes his last will and testament. To his wife, Anna Folley, during her natural life or widowhood all my real estate, also, two beds and bedding, two cows, one hog and as much of my household furniture as she shall need to keep house. The remainder of my personal estate to be sold at auction to pay my debts and to pay for wife's upkeep. To my son, William W. Folley, land in his possesion containing 33 acres, being on the west side of my farm purchased from John Stephens adjoining the land of Henry Bogert, also, all my blacksmith tools. To my son, Abraham Folley, thirty three acres of land where on he now lives lying on the east side of land devised to my son William. To my son, David Folley, six acres and 6/100 of an acre, lying on the east side of lands devised to and now in posession of my son, Abraham. To my son, Adam Folley, thirty three acres of land whereon he now lives being on the east sie of the farm I purchased of John Stephens. To my son, Peter Folley, a lot of land containing 14 acres bounded by lands of Peter Goestches north by Peter VanZyle, east of the Public Road. I order my homestead farm containing 30 acres sold and the money to be divided between the hiers of my son Elias Folley. To my son David Folley, $100, after death of my wife. To my daughter, Hannah, wife of John Smith, $100, after death of my wife. To my daughter, Clara, wife of Daniel Smith, $100, after death of my wife. To my daughter, Sally, wife of Peter Smith, $1, after death of my wife. To my daughter, Elizabeth, $10, after the death of my wife. To my grandson, Albert VanBlarcom, $10, after the death of my wife. To my daughter, Mary, wife of Peter VanZyle, $1, after the death of my wife. I appoint my son, Abraham Folley, Peter Terhune, and Garret Van Dean, executors of my last will and testament. Dated 4 Feb 1828. Signed with an X. Witnesses Abner Armstrong, Albert A. Smith (X), Garret A. Smith (X). 1830 US Census, NJ, Bergen, Franklin Township, William Folley 2 males -5, 2 males 5 to 10, 1 male 10 to 15, 1 male 40-50, 1 male 90-100, 1 female 5-10, 1 female 10-15, 2 females 20-30, 1 female 30-40, 1 female 70-80. Neighbors were Albert G. Hopper, James Brinckerhoff, David and Peter D. Ackerman, John Bush, Abraham Vanderbeek, Hermanus Vanderbeek, John Zabriskie, Tobias Smith, Aaron Ackerman, Henry Marks, Albert Garrison, John Labach, Jacob Smith, Anthony Crouter, Henry Poorle, Barney Spear, John G. Ackerman, Abraham Quackenbush, John Carlough, Harmanus Smith, Henry Young. 10 Dec 1831, Codicil, grandson, Albert now deceased. Witnesses, Henry A. Hopper, Anthony Crouter, Andrew H. Hopper. Everyone swore as witnesses to signing of will and codicil 24 Jan 1832. Inventory value, $159.24. Appraisors, Henry A. Hopper and Albert A. Smith. 1833 2 May 1833, Abraham Folly, Peter I. Terhune, and Garret VanDein Ex. for William Folly, late of Franklin Twsp according to will dated 4 Feb 1828 he directed ex. sell homestead farm of 30 acresat death or remarriage of wife They sold two tracts for $1880.07 to Aaron A. Ackerman. One on west side of Franklin Tpke, by Albert Garrison land, road from Franklin Turnpike to Ryerspon's Mill containing 18 29/100 acres. The second lot beginning on east side public road containing 92/100 acres on the Franklin Turnpike, along line of Peter P. Ackerman and Albert Garrison. Witnesses Albert Garrison, John Lawbach. Interviewed 2 May 1833 by John G. Ackerson. Received and recorded 6 May 1833. 2 May 1833, Abraham Folly, Peter I. Terhune, and Garret VanDein Ex. for William Folly, late of Franklin Twsp according to will dated 4 Feb 1828 he directed ex. sell homestead farm of 30 acres at death or remarriage of wife They sold two tracts for $614.23 to Abraham Garrison, of Franklin. First lot on the west side of Franklin Tpke by lands of Albert Garrison and Aaron A. Ackerman containing 9 64/100 acres of land. 2nd lot by land of Anthony Crouter, Aaron A. Ackerman and Peter P. Ackerman and Franklin Tpke. It contains 1 49/100 acres. Witnesses P. M. Prall and Michael Salyer. Interview by John G. Ackerman 2 May 1833. Receceived and recorded 11 May 1837. ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gopgal55 Surnames: Cenci, Iaccarino, DeSantis, Formiconi, Sinibaldi, Moretti, Sbaretti, Gualfetti, Vespasiani, Ceccarelli, Cora, Leporini, Cattani, Rosini, Tazza, Tabarini, Tabbarini Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3236.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: His name was Elio Cenci. Sometimes he went by "LEO." I have documentation that he lived at 10 Highwood Avenue in Tenafly in 1954, from that address he and his brother Gustavo "Gus" Cenci ran the Cenci Art School. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BethPotter Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3236.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: What was your grandfather's first name...and what years might he have been there? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I am seeking information on Joseph Burns (1871 - 1934) and his wife Henrietta Bartels (1865 - 1832). They lived in Ridgewood, NJ and are buried in Valleau Cemetery. They had a son Herbert "Lucky" Burns (1907 - 1951) and Henrietta had a daughter, Viola Bartels/Burns Buehler (1885 - 1974). Any information on this family would be Greatly appreciated. Thanks, Pam

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KMGillen Surnames: Beeching, Pinkerton Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3237/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Seeking any old photographs taken by William Philomen Beeching who worked at (or owned) The Wayne Photo Company and Caslon Printers in Wooster, Ohio. William was married to Mary R. (Pinkerton?) and had at least 2 children: Mary C., and William P. III, both born about 1912 in Ohio. This family lived in Wooster, Ohio ca. 1910-1930, then moved to New Jersey between 1925-1930, and lived in Hackensack and Paterson NJ, ca. 1930-1940. Any information greatly appreciated. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JohnMinke Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3236.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I grew up in Tenafly, but left there in 1959. Don't recognize the name but why not try the Englewood library or the Johnson Library in Hackensack. Perhaps even the 1930 U.S. census. John Minke Carmichael, CA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JohnMinke Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3214.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: No, look for Demarest, which most descendents used, including my own ancestors. John Minke Carmichael, CA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gopgal55 Surnames: Cenci, Iaccarino, DeSantis, Formiconi, Sinibaldi, Moretti, Sbaretti, Gualfetti, Vespasiani, Ceccarelli, Cora, Leporini, Cattani, Rosini, Tazza, Tabarini, Tabbarini Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3236/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for anyone who might remember my grandfather from when he lived in Tenafly. He lived across from the train station, upstairs. There are stores downstairs in this building. He could have lived there with his brother, Gus. Any info is helpful. I asked at the Tenafly library for old city directories, but they told me that these were "lost." Thank you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gopgal55 Surnames: Cenci, Iaccarino, DeSantis, Formiconi, Sinibaldi, Moretti, Sbaretti, Gualfetti, Vespasiani, Ceccarelli, Cora, Leporini, Cattani, Rosini, Tazza, Tabarini, Tabbarini Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3214.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The right spelling is Demarrais. There are still these people in Bergen COunty. Try under that spelling. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Third Annual Phillips Knapp Reunion The Phillips-Knapp Family Association is planning its third annual reunion for the weekend of September 15 and 16, 2007. It is open to anyone who has an ancestor from Rockland County surnamed Phillips or Knapp. If in doubt, join our group! Annual dues are only $5 payable in cash at the reunion, or by check to Vicki Miller. Our reunion will kick off with a welcoming breakfast at the home of Vicki Miller in Thiells. From there we will proceed to a three hour cruise on the Hudson River, complete with catered lunch and guide to tell us something about the lives of our ancestors in and along the river. After the cruise we will return to Thiells to relax while eating pie in a pie baking contest and watching a History Channel presentation on the Haverstraw brickmaking industry. Hopefully we will also have a speaker from the brick museum. We intend to end the day at the Phillips-Knapp Cemetery on Beech Road. Sunday morning we will tour the graves of our ancestors buried in Mt. Rest Cemetery and unveil the DAR plaque on the grave of Agnes Phillips before attending services at the church next to the cemetery. This church was founded by our ancestors, and was previously known as the Crick Church or St. Georges. Now it is simply called the First United Methodist Church of Stony Point. After worship we will proceed to the Town of Haverstraw Park for a picnic, and then say farewell at Parrot Bay. For further information please contact Vicki Miller at avmofm@aol.com or Barbara de Mare at BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com We are expecting participants from all over the country, so please come and meet your cousins on this fun-filled weekend. The cost of the reunion is only $15 for the catered lunch plus the $5 dues. There is no better bargain to be had! Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. Historian, genealogist and attorney 155 Polifly Road Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 (201) 567-9440 office BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gmabe6677 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/964.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for my family history my grandfather's last name is Redner he is from New York i would like to her from you to find out information about him and the family. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

In a message dated 8/8/2007 8:04:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, RckSwapr42@cox.net writes: Thanks for the info, I will try this....I don't know for sure but would presume that he was buried in a Catholic Church. I have contacted a couple but am not for sure if it is in Passaic or Bergen county...I know that HE / THEY lived in Clifton, Passaic, Wallington, Garfield....I came back East in 05 and went to Trenton to find a birth Certificate for My DAD but they didn't have one...? Again thanks for the info....For now and till then. JOHN Do you know what town your grandparents were living when they had your father? If so, you might want to contact the town for a birth certificate. Unfortunately, there are so many Catholic churches in those towns, you might have quite a search. If you can find the obit, it may list the church if there was a funeral mass. I'm probably wrong but is Cerullo an Italian name? If so, do you know if they were 1st or 2nd generation? That may help to limit the churches as well. For instance, Our Lady of Mount Virgin is in an Italian neighborhood. Go to Google and type in Catholic Churches Garfield NJ and you'll get quite a few listings. Good luck. Jean ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour