This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 9boxmaker8 Surnames: NELIUS, GOEB Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3243/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Seeking information re: NELIUS BAKERY and its owners, NICHOLAS NELIUS (b. 1888 Rheinheim, Germany) and KATIE (nee Goeb, b. 1888, Kolitzheim, Germany), and their son NICHOLAS, JR.(b. 1918, Bergen Co.). KATIE died 20 Aug 1937 and is buried in NJ, location of gravesite unknown. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Westchester County Genealogical Society (NY) Upcoming Meeting MEETING NOTICE The first meeting of the 25th year of the Westchester County Genealogical Society will be “History of the Catholic Church in NY – 200th Anniversary” a talk by the Msgr. Thomas J. Shelley Ph.D. on Saturday, September 8, 2007 at 10am. Msgr. Shelley is a Catholic priest of Archdiocese of NY and a Professor of Historical Theology at Fordham University. He also teaches Church History at Saint John Neumann Residence. Msgr. Shelley is the author of many books, including Dunwoodie: The History of St. Joseph’s Seminary, The History of the Archdiocese of New York, Greenwich Village Catholics: St. Joseph's Church, 1829-2002, and Empire State Catholics. MEETING INFO: WHEN: Saturday, SEPTEMBER 8, 2007 @ 10 a.m. WHERE: Aldersgate Methodist Church, 600 Broadway in Dobbs Ferry (across from Mercy College on route 9) Guests are always welcome. There will be refreshments and genealogical networking starting at 9:30am. For information about Westchester County Genealogical Society (Westchester Connection or Surname List), visit WCGS home page -- _http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywcgs/_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywcgs/) RESERVED THESE DATES FOR WCGS Future Meetings Oct 13, 2007 Researching Family Roots and DNA Elizabeth M. Macfarlane Nov 10, 2007 Crossing the Ocean with the Internet Leslie Huber Dec 8, 2007 Holiday Party – Special Interest Groups / Study Group Meeting Jan 12, 2008 Women of the House (Co-sponsored by Friends of Philipse Manor Hall) *** Meeting to take place at Philipse Manor Hall, 29 Warburton Ave, Yonkers Jean Zimmerman Feb 9, 2008 Identifying Photos from Costumes *** Meeting to take place at Yorktown Community& Cultural Center, 1974 Commerce Street, Yorktown Heights, 914-962-2970 Laura Lee Keating Mar 8, 2008 The Trail Our Ancestors Followed in Becoming Citizens Joseph Lieby Apr 12, 2008 Every Age Has a Story to Tell Peter Savigny from Heirloom Biography May 10, 2008 The Story of Sybil Ludington - American Revolutionary War Hero – the Female Paul Revere Vincent D'Aquino June 14, 2008 An Object of Great Importance: The Hudson River During the American War for Independence Christopher DiPasquale ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Dear Searcher - from Cynthia Potter Tenicki, Could we be in the same Bergen County Genealogy Group in Ridgewood? Your name is so familiar. I'm researching VanBuskirks, I'm in the Shoemaker Volumes (#2), I'll keep this out as one more to keep on top of my "Need to find," pile. ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jjdwm Surnames: Trommel Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3242/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Does anyone know the tragic history of the children of Leonard and Nellie Trommel who lived in the City of Passaic, but whose six children died between their late teens and early 30s and were all buried together in Lodi Cemetery between 1915-1927? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kmailler1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3241/mb.ashx Message Board Post: looking for burial location/obit of above. Married to Grace Spencer, daugh of Bedell and Mary. They had a son John, born about 1921 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jjdwm Surnames: Steenland Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3240/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for genealogical info on the children of the Steenland brothers Jacobus and Marinus who came from Texel in late 1800s to Bergen County, New Jersey. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Westchester County Genealogical Society (NY) Upcoming Year This coming year, WCGS is celebrating their 25th Anniversary Year. The programs for this coming year will be very interesting – there is a wide mixture! The meetings will be held at the Aldersgate Methodist Church, 600 Broadway in Dobbs Ferry (across from Mercy College on route 9). However, the meeting in January 2008 will be held in Yonkers and the meeting in February 2008 will be in Yorktown Heights. Guests are always welcome. The meetings will be at 10am but refreshments and genealogical networking will start at 9:30am. For information about Westchester County Genealogical Society (Westchester Connection or Surname List), visit WCGS home page -- _http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywcgs/_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywcgs/) RESERVED THESE DATES FOR WCGS Future Meetings Sept 8, 2007 History of the Catholic Church in NY – 200th Anniversary Msgr. Thomas J. Shelley Ph.D. Oct 13, 2007 Researching Family Roots and DNA Elizabeth M. Macfarlane Nov 10, 2007 Crossing the Ocean with the Internet Leslie Huber Dec 8, 2007 Holiday Party – Special Interest Groups / Study Group Meeting Jan 12, 2008 Women of the House (Co-sponsored by Friends of Philipse Manor Hall) *** Meeting to take place at Philipse Manor Hall, 29 Warburton Ave, Yonkers Jean Zimmerman Feb 9, 2008 Identifying Photos from Costumes *** Meeting to take place at Yorktown Community& Cultural Center, 1974 Commerce Street, Yorktown Heights, 914-962-2970 Laura Lee Keating Mar 8, 2008 The Trail Our Ancestors Followed in Becoming Citizens Joseph Lieby Apr 12, 2008 Every Age Has a Story to Tell Peter Savigny from Heirloom Biography May 10, 2008 The Story of Sybil Ludington - American Revolutionary War Hero – the Female Paul Revere Vincent D'Aquino June 14, 2008 An Object of Great Importance: The Hudson River During the American War for Independence Christopher DiPasquale ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Benjamin Knapp died in 1772 leaving a will mentioning his wife Susannah and his ten children, including his deceased son Daniel. His son Daniel left a will dated 1771 mentioning his wife, also named Susanna, and his two sons. Who are Benjamin's parents. Need information on his children mentioned in the wills. Benjamin KNAPP died Aug/Oct 1772 . Benjamin married Susannah. Banjamin Knapp of Haverstraw Precinct, left a will dated 5 Aug 1772 and proved 23 October 1772 in New York City, mentioning his wife Susannah. Son Benjamin. Second son, Samuel. Son Daniel, deceased. Daughters Elizabeth, Susanna, Rachel, Mary, Hannah, Deborah and Rebecca. Two children of my son Daniel, deceased, the land I now live on known as the Hook, containing about 220 acres which I before time gave to my son Daniel by deed of gift dated 18 January 1762. Executors: Wife Susannah and Jeremiah Williamson. [Budke will #1068] Will of his son Daniel. Daniel Knapp, yeoman, of Haverstraw Precinct, left a will dated 28 Sept 1771 mentioning his wife, also named Susanna and his father, Benjamin Knapp. Oldest son, Daniel. Youngest son, Benjamin. Executors: Brother-in-law Abraham Thew and Jeremiah Williamson. Signed his name Daniel Knapp. Proved: "Endorsed on the back: Letters of Administration with will annexed, dated 9 May 1774." [Budke will #1069] Ethel Kay Konight ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

In a message dated 8/24/2007 1:46:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Muldune@verizon.net writes: Does anyone have information regarding Catharine J. Storms Born 31 Aug 1804, Wife to Ralph G. Vanderlinde??? They were married 29 Nov 1823. I have information on Ralph and their children, But nothing on her or her family except her birth date. Any Help would be great! I'm sorry - I've looked through my notes and don't find a Catharine J. Storms born on that date. ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kohlerbj Surnames: HOOPPELL, PEARSALL, MCNAMARA Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3239/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi All. I think Catherine MCNAMARA might be related to my HOOPPELL family. I don't have an apartment number for her, so my letter to her was returned. If you are acquainted with her and can help me contact her, I would appreciate it. This is the family to whom I think she belongs: John A. HOOPPELL b 1876 Troy NY m 1901 Sarah D. Pearsall b 1878 Bayonne NJ | Grace N. HOOPPELL b 1901 George D. HOOPPELL b 1903 Grace N. HOOPPELL m 1923 Joseph Patrick MCNAMARA b 1901 Bayonne | Catherine G. MCNAMARA Thanks. Bonnie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rvermar1 Surnames: Bakker, Posthumus, Laansma, Hofstra Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3238.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have a Jacomina Jans Bosma in my family tree, b. unk, married to Jelle Sjoerds Ypma in Baarderadeel, Friesland, 2 May 1888. She could be a sibling of your Jans. Let me know if we have a "match." My Dutch relatives who immigrated came to Bergen and Passaic counties. Marilyn Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jjdwm Surnames: Bosma Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3238/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Currently looking for information on the Dutch origins of John and Martha Bosma (both born ca. 1868 in Holland; John immigrated ca. 1891; Martha immigrated ca. 1893). They lived in Saddle River Township and Fair Lawn. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Does anyone have information regarding Catharine J. Storms Born 31 Aug 1804, Wife to Ralph G. Vanderlinde??? They were married 29 Nov 1823. I have information on Ralph and their children, But nothing on her or her family except her birth date. Any Help would be great! Thank you In advance, Diane Kachoogian No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.4/969 - Release Date: 8/23/2007 4:04 PM

In a message dated 8/24/2007 8:55:57 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, the.wardells@gte.net writes: * Jane Folly, b. 15 Apr 1833, bp. New Prospect M.E. Ch; m. John Jenks Well this might explain why David Storms (6) was living with the Jenks family. If in fact, he was half brother to Sarah Catharine Storms (9) living with her grandmother Jane Blauvelt Folly, perhaps, David, after remarriage, had another child with Sarah Mitchell. She may have also died, and therefore, David asked his sister-in-law to take care of his son. I'm still not sure where Sarah Catharine's two older siblings were living. Jane was born in 1854, and Edwin in 1858, so they would have been 16 and 12, respectively at the time of the 1870 census. ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Thanks, Judy -- and here's what I have for the family group of Adam Folly -- ------------------------ Adam Folly, son of (prob) William Folly & Antje -?-, m. 4 Nov 1820 Saddle River Ref Ch, Jannetje Blauvelt (Jane), dau. of Daniel Blauvelt & (1) Annetje Banta Adam Folly was b. 29 May 1792 [2] NJ ; bp.16 June 1792 Paramus Ref Ch; d. before 20 April 1857 Jannetje Blauvelt was b. 8 Sep 1799 NJ; bp. 6 Oct 1799 Paramus Ref Ch; d. 1880 or later They are listed in the 1850 Federal Census, Franklin Twp., dwelling 151, family 162. He is listed as a mason, with real estate valued at $2,000. Adam Folley bought the house at 310 Crescent Avenue, Wyckoff, on 11 March 1851 from James and Abigail Van Blarcom. The property is part of Lot 35 (137 acres) on the Ramapo Tract map, having belonged to Abr. Blauvelt 27 Jan 1787. The earliest part of the house was thought to have been built about 1770-1800; the newer section may have been built about 1860s. On part of the property was the only cranberry bog in Bergen County.1 The will of Adam Folley, written 29 Jan 1857 and proved 20 Apr 1857 states the following information: Adam Folley of Franklin Township, Bergen, NJ, wife, no name, to receive all of estate, at her death sons, David Alyea and William Alyea, 2 lots of land in Franklin containing 14 acres and 1 acre, land described being near public road leading from Ramapo to New Prospect, by Garret VanDien, John A. Smith, James VanBlarcom. These two lots were purchased from Abraham J. Hopper and Adam Alyea. executors, Abraham Lozier, friend, and David Foley, son, Witnesses, John B. Wortendyke, Benjamin Smith, and Abrm VanBlarcom. Appraisers are Samuel Coe and John VanBlarcom, There are two small notes owed by Samuel Coe and Harry Hogland.2 Jane Foley, 62, is listed as head of the household in the 1860 Federal Census, Franklin Township, Godwinville P.O., with (prob. children) David, 23, Eliza, 19, and William, 16 living with her. ---1860 US Census, NJ, Bergen, Township of Franklin census, p 363-64: 414-464 Jane Foley, age 62, $2000 real estate, $250 in personal property, all b NJ, not able to read or write, David age 23, farm laborer, not able to read or write, Eliza, age 19, William, age 16, a farm laborer. Neighbors: John Jenks, Catherine Foley, James VanBlarcom. Jane Folly, 64, keeping house, was listed in the 1870 Federal Census, living in Franklin Township, Bergen County, NJ. Living with her was Kate Storms, 9. Jane Folley, 81, widow, was living in 1880 in Franklin Township with the family of her son, David Folley. ---children of Adam Folly & Jane/Jannetje Blauvelt: * Mary Ann Folley, b. 8 Nov 1821; bp. 9 Mar 1822 Saddle River Zion Luth Ch; m. (poss) Edward M. Storms * William Alyea Folly, b. 1823, bp. 24 Jan 1824 New Prospect M.E. Ch; apparently d.y. * Daniel Folly (David?), b. 9 Nov 1825; bp. 30 July 1826 New Prospect M.E. Ch * Hannah Folly, b. 6 Mar, bp. 22 June 1828 New Prospect M.E. Ch; d. 15 April 1862; m. 12 Sep 1853 Ponds Ref Ch, David Storms, son of John J. Storms & (1) Jane Guest. David Storms m. (2) 1862, Sarah Ann Mitchell; he m. (3) 1864, Margaret Ellen Baker. * Sally Folly (Sarah?), b. abt. 1830 NJ * Jane Folly, b. 15 Apr 1833, bp. New Prospect M.E. Ch; m. John Jenks * David F. Folly (David Alyea Folly2), b. abt. 1836 NJ; m. Sarah Keziah Romaine (Sarah "Jane" Romaine2). * Eliza Folly, b. abt. 1840 NJ * William Folly, b. 1 Nov 1843 NJ; bp. New Prospect M.E. Ch (no date in rec.); m. Matilda -?-. ---Sources: [1] Bergen County Historic Sites Survey for Wyckoff (compiled by the Bergen County Division of Cultural & Historic Affairs); [2] Information online Nov 1998 and March 1999 from Judith Courter Ullman, 404 Red River Tr #1017, Irving, TX 75063 <AJULLMAN@aol.com>; 1850 Federal Census, Bergen County, Franklin Township, dwelling 152, family 162; New Prospect Baptisms; Ackerman & Goff, Records of the Zion Lutheran Churches of Saddle River and Ramapo, NJ (now at Saddle River, Bergen Co., NJ),1943; 1860 Federal Census, Franklin Township, Godwinville P.O., dwelling 414, family 464 (Wyckoff-Allendale-Waldwick area); 1870 Federal Census, New Jersey, Bergen County, Franklin Township, Ramsey's P.O., taken July 1870, Dwelling 514, Family 559; 1880 Federal Census, New Jersey, Bergen County, Franklin Township (taken June 1880), Dwelling 22, Family 29 (Family of David Folley); Reformed Dutch Church of Saddle River (Upper Saddle River, Bergen Co., NJ) Marriages ---------------------------- Any additions, corrections, etc. welcomed. Pat -- Pat & Walter Wardell Englewood, FL the.wardells@gte.net

In a message dated 8/24/2007 7:38:46 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, AJULLMAN@aol.com writes: 1870 US, NJ, Bergen, Franklin Twsp., Series M593, Film 852, p 227 dwelling 513, family 558, Folly, David H., 33, farmer, all b NJ, Sarah, 33, Adam, 8, Eliza, 4, Hester A., 1, dwelling 514, family 559, Jane Folly, 64, keeping house, $1000, $300, Kate Storms, 9, dwelling 515, family 560, John G. Jenks, 30, works RR, $300, b Holland Jane, 30, keeping house, all rest b NJ Jane M., 10, John W., 6, Anne M., 2, Daniel F., 4/12 b Feb., David Storms, 6. Does anyone know who is the father and mother of David Storms, age 6? Kate Storms, 9 is my great-grandmother Sarah Catharine Storms. She lived with Jane Folly, after the death of her mother, Hannah Folley Storms in 1862. I'm curious if this could be a half-brother of Sarah's (didn't even know he existed). Sarah Catharine's father, David, remarried after the death of Hannah, so it's possible he had more children. Judy, any thoughts on this? Also, curious as to why he would be living with the Jenks family. If there is any relationship between him and David Storms, it's a bit odd as David (the possible father) died in 1872. Regards, Jean ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

from Judy Ullman _ajullman@aol.com_ (mailto:ajullman@aol.com) Dear Sue This is what you had on a Hannah Smith living by Adam Folly. They are seven pages away from each other in 1850 and 4 families away from each other in 1860. Did the census taker make a mistake or are we reading ages wrong or are they not the same person? If 1850 is correct she was b in 1762 and if 1860 is correct she was b 1782. 1850 p 220 Franklin, Bergen, NJ 249-265 John Smith, 79, farmer, all b NJ Hannah, 88 250-266 Elizabeth Smith 31 Sally Rutan, 60, pauper 1860 NJ, Bergen 410-460 Hannah Smith age 78 $200-$1000 all b NJ David Wanamaker 60 farm lavorer Mary 58 Mary Ann 14 This is what I have on Hannah Folly dgt of William Folly b according to Ramapo Lutheran Church records 18 Mar 1774 bp 8 Apr 1784. The info came from NJ Hist. Soc. Vol 8 3rd Series 1913. According to will of William Folly in 1832 she was married to John Smith when will was made. Is the person above the same person who is sister of Adam Folly? but then we have will of Hannah (Fisher) Smith d bef 17 Mar 1864 in Hohokus. In her will she leaves parts of her estate to following people: Michael Fisher, brother Rachel May wife of David May Maria Acker widow of Peter Acker Catherine Smith widow of Peter Smith Elizabeth wife of Peter Likunn David Fisher son of my brother David John A. Smith Garret A. Smith Cornelius A. Smith William Christopher Sally Smith wife of Peter Smith Elin dgt Catherine Fisher Elizabeth dgt Cornelius Quackenbush Susan Smith Two sisters Mariah and Catherine executors John A. Smith, Garret A. Smith, Cornelius A. Smith witness Levi Hopper and Jane Winter >From reading the above will you would have to assume that Hannah (Fisher) Smith had no children. Could she have been the second wife with name Hannah who married John Smith? This is what I have on Adam Folly Adam Folly 1792-1857 1830 US Census, NJ, Bergen, Franklin census: male age 5 to 10, male age 10 to 15, male age 30 to 40, 1 females -5, 1 females 5 to 10, 1 female 30 to 40. Neighbors were Joseph Rider, Samuel Halsted, Peter Ramsay, John Valentine, Samuel Banta, Joseph Christopher, John Christopher, Jacob Smith, Richard Vanderbeek, Albert Smith, Lewis Massacer, Andrew Ackerman, Cornelius Van Horn, Albert and Adam Alyea, Hester and Henry Bogert, Moses Decker, Peter Hopper, Henry VanHouten, James P. Westervelt, Daniel Blauvelt, and Herny Massecre. 1840 NJ, Bergen, Franklin Township census: Adam Folley, 1 male -5, 1 male 15-20, 1 male 30-40, 2 females -5, 2 females 5-10, 1 female 10-15, 1 female 15-20, 1 female 30-40. Neighbors: John Christopher, Charles Johnson, 4 folley brothers, Stephen and James VanBlarcom, Daniel Blauvelt, Lewis VanBlarcom Timothey Hagerty, John Ackerson, Lewis Miskler, Isaac Everson, John A. Morrison, Abraham Storm, William Shannon, John and Jacob Smith, Isaac Courter and Daniel D. Blauvelt. 1850 NJ, Bergen, Franklin Township census p 213: 152-162 Adam Folly age 56, a mason, with $2000 in real estate, all b NJ Jane, age 53, Hannah, age 22, Sally, age 20, Jane age 17, David, age 14, Eliza age 10, William age 6. Neighbors: Daniel Winter, Samuel Coe, Stephen VanBlarcom, James Van Blarcom. 1857 The will of Adam Folley states the following information: Adam Folley of Franklin Township, Bergen, NJ, wife, no name, to receive all of estate, at her death sons, David Alyea and William Alyea, 2 lots of land in Franklin containing 14 acres and 1 acre, land described being near public road leading from Ramapo to New Prospect, by Garret VanDien, John A. Smith, James VanBlarcom. These two lots were purchased from Abraham J. Hopper and Adam Alyea. executors, Abraham Lozier, friend, and David Foley, son, Witnesses, John B. Wortendyke, Benjamin Smith, and Abrm VanBlarcom. Appraisors are Samuel Coe and John VanBlarcom, There are two small notes owed by Samuel Coe and Harry Hogland. Will written 29 Jan 1857. Will proved 20 Apr 1857. 1860 US Census, NJ, Bergen, Township of Franklin census, p 363-64: 414-464 Jane Foley, age 62, $2000 real estate, $250 in personal property, all b NJ, not able to read or write, David age 23, farm laborer, not able to read or write, Eliza, age 19, William, age 16, a farm laborer. Neighbors: John Jenks, Catherine Foley, James VanBlarcom. 1870 US, NJ, Bergen, Franklin Twsp., Series M593, Film 852, p 227 dwelling 513, family 558, Folly, David H., 33, farmer, all b NJ, Sarah, 33, Adam, 8, Eliza, 4, Hester A., 1, dwelling 514, family 559, Jane Folly, 64, keeping house, $1000, $300, Kate Storms, 9, dwelling 515, family 560, John G. Jenks, 30, works RR, $300, b Holland Jane, 30, keeping house, all rest b NJ Jane M., 10, John W., 6, Anne M., 2, Daniel F., 4/12 b Feb., David Storms, 6. Census Place: Franklin, Bergen, New Jersey Source: FHL Film 1254771 National Archives Film T9-0771 Page 262C Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace David FOLLEY Self M M W 44 NJ Occ: Farmer Fa: NJ Mo: NJ Keziah FOLLEY Wife F M W 43 NJ Occ: Keeping House Fa: NJ Mo: NJ Adam FOLLEY Son M S W 17 NJ Occ: Laborer Fa: NJ Mo: NJ Eliza E. FOLLEY Dau F S W 14 NJ Occ: Works In Silk Mill Fa: NJ Mo: NJ Hester A. FOLLEY Dau F S W 11 NJ Occ: Works In Silk Mill Fa: NJ Mo: NJ Mary F. FOLLEY Dau F S W 8 NJ Occ: At School Fa: NJ Mo: NJ Keziah FOLLEY Dau F S W 3 NJ Fa: NJ Mo: NJ Jane FOLLEY Mother F W W 81 NJ Fa: NJ Mo: NJ Census Place: Franklin, Bergen, New Jersey Source: FHL Film 1254771 National Archives Film T9-0771 Page 262C Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace James VAN BLARCOM Self M M W 46 NJ Occ: Farmer Fa: NJ Mo: NJ Leah M. VAN BLARCOM Wife F M W 32 NJ Occ: Keeping House Fa: NJ Mo: NJ Rebecca A. VAN BLARCOM Dau F S W 16 NJ Occ: At Home Fa: NJ Mo: NJ John I. VAN BLARCOM Son M S W 14 NJ Fa: NJ Mo: NJ Letty J. VAN BLARCOM Dau F S W 9 NJ Fa: NJ Mo: NJ Emma L. VAN BLARCOM Dau F S W 7 NJ Fa: NJ Mo: NJ Frank VAN BLARCOM Son M S W 2 NJ Fa: NJ Mo: NJ Jacob H. VAN BLARCOM Son M S W 2M NJ Fa: NJ Mo: NJ Census Place: Franklin, Bergen, New Jersey Source: FHL Film 1254771 National Archives Film T9-0771 Page 262C Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Stephen HAMMOND Self M M W 57 NJ Occ: Farmer Fa: NJ Mo: NJ Elizabeth HAMMOND Wife F M W 61 NJ Occ: Keeping House Fa: NJ Mo: NJ Richard V. HAMMOND Son M M W 29 NJ Occ: Carpenter Fa: NJ Mo: NJ Maria J. HAMMOND DauL F M W 30 NJ Occ: Keeping House Fa: NJ Mo: NJ John HAMMOND GSon M S W 3 NJ Fa: NJ Mo: NJ Census Place: Franklin, Bergen, New Jersey Source: FHL Film 1254771 National Archives Film T9-0771 Page 262C Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Albert SMITH Self M W W 73 NJ Occ: Farmer Fa: NJ Mo: NJ Sarah C. STORMS Other F S W 18 NJ Occ: House Keeper Fa: NJ Mo: NJ Census Place: Franklin, Bergen, New Jersey Source: FHL Film 1254771 National Archives Film T9-0771 Page 262D Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Samuel COE Self M M W 62 NJ Occ: Farmer Fa: NJ Mo: NJ Susan A. COE Wife F M W 43 NJ Occ: Keeping House Fa: NJ Mo: NJ Albert C. HOLDREM Other M S W 19 NJ Occ: Servant Fa: NY Mo: NY ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

from _ajullman@aol.com_ (mailto:ajullman@aol.com) Judy Courter Ullman Tax records of Shuart/Shurte and other spellings of name 1778-1822 NJ, Bergen, Franklin Twsp. Tax Records for Shurte, LDS film 0865462 May 1778, p 5, Charles Shurte, no land Henry Shurte, 100 acres p 11, Catherine Shurte, 88 acres Jan 1779 p 4, Henry Shurte, 100 acres p10, Isaac Shurte, 88 acres Jan/Feb 1779 p 4, Henry Shurte, 100 acres p 10, Isaac Shurte, 88 acres Exempt taxes 1778/1779 no Shurte listed Aug 1779 p 11, Isaac Shurte, householder, no land p 12, Henry Shurte, householder, no land Feb 1780 p 8, Henry Shurte, householder p 12, Isaac Shurte, 50 acres Aug 1780 p 8, Isaac Shurte, 50 acres, listed on the page between the following roads, Post Road to Ramapo and Ringwood to Clove Dec 1780 p 8, Henry Shurte, 30 acres p 10, Isaac Shurte, 50 acres 1782 p 8, Isaac Shurte, 37 acres July 1784 p 8, Isaac Shurte, 37 acres Jul 1785 p 11, Isaac Shurte, 37 acres Jul 1786 p 11, Isaac Shurte, 37 acres Jul/Aug 1789 p 13, Adolph Shuart, 14 acres (I looked at this number again and it looks like 14) Margaret Shuart, 39 acres Jul/Aug 1790 p 4, Margaret Shurte, 37 acres Adolf Shurte, 14 acres Jul/Aug 1791 p 6, Margaret Shurte, 37 acres Adolf Shurte, 14 acres Christian Shurte, householder Jul/Aug 1792 p 6, Margaret Shurte, 37 acres Adolf Shurte, 14 acres Jul/Aug 1793 p 7, Adolf Shurte, 14 acres Jul/Aug 1794 p 7, Adolf Shurte, 64 acres Aug 1795 p 7, Adolf Shurte, 100 acres Jul/Aug 1796 no Adolf Shurte but in 1797 he listed with different neighbors then previous years Jul/Aug 1797 p 3, Adolf Shurte, 100 acres Jul/Aug 1802 p 2, Adolf Shurte, 100 acres The rest of the lists has names alphabetically not by neighbors Jul/Aug 1813 p 18, William Shurte, 30 improved acres, 22 unimproved acres Adolf Shurte, 82 improved acres, 40 unimproved acres Aug 1814 p 10, William Shurte, 25 improved acres, 13 unimproved acres Adolf Shurte, 82 improved acres, 20 unimproved acres Aug 1815 p 10, Adolf Shurte, 82 improved acres, 20 unimproved acres Aug 1816 p 4, Adolf Shurte, 82 improved acres, 20 unimproved acres William Shurte, 38 improved acres Aug 1817 can't read page number, Adolf Shurte, 82 improved acres, 20 unimproved acres Isaac Shurte, 20 unimproved acres Jun/Aug 1821 p 13, Adolf Shurte, 75 improved acres, 25 unimproved acres Isaac, 22 unimproved acres Jul/Aug 1822 p 15, Adolf Shurte, 75 improved acres, 25 unimproved acres Isaac, 22 unimproved acres neighbors of Adolf Shurte before 1795 William Hennion Lodywick Brickman Henry Frederick Adolf Wanamaker Davis Fox John Christie Samuel Peggery Adolph Shurte John Winter James Christie Peter Tannery Jacob Ackhut William Ackhut David Christie Nicholas Bovenhip George Lawrence Cornius Bertholf Cornelius & Barent Forshieur Jacobus & Wouters V. Norden James, Henry & Abr Pulisfelt Thomas, Henry & John Eckerson Andrew A., Abrm A. Hopper Casparus Cough Peter & Stats Bogert neighbors 1797 Thomas Banta Conrad, Henry & Lodwick Bush Garret A. & Abr. Hopper Conrad ? John Doremus John Yeomans James Dodd Rynier Wortendyke Nathan Lane Adolf Shurte Peter Smith Peter Tise Simon Demaret John Tise David VanBlarcom John Straut Michael & David Fisher Wm. Wanamaker John Moore Wm. VanSchy?? William Sisco Solomon Day ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Hi Sue (and any others interested) -- Good luck figuring out who your particular Christian Wanamaker was (there are a bunch of them). Here's some information I have in my files about men named Christian Wanamaker in the Bergen County, NJ - Orange/Rockland Co., NY area. I welcome any additions, corrections, etc. --Pat ------------------------- Christian Wanamaker, son of Johann Dietrich Wanamaker & Anna Kunigunda Kernmann, m. about 1748, Grietje Shuart (Margrietje), dau. of Adolph Schyourt (Shuart) & Margaretta Geerling Christian Wanamaker was bp. 18 Feb 1722 Hackensack Ref Ch; d. before 16 May 1783 They lived in Mahwah, Bergen County, NJ. On 17 June 1767 Conrad & Marritye Wannamaker, yeoman, of Bergen County conveyed to Peter Wannamaker of the same place, for £225, 78 acres; mentioned corner to Christian Wannamaker. Signed by Conrad Wannamaker (his mark), Maritye Wannamaker (her mark). Witnessed by William, Isaac, Thomas Boggs, Dederick Wannamaker, Peddter Wannamaker, Lawrence L. Van Boskerk.2 On 6 May 1773 (recorded 11 April 1805, Bergen Co. U:108) dated "in the thirteenth Year of the Reign of Sovriegn Lord George the Third," John Shurte of Ramapough and his wife, Elizabeth, and Margaret Shurte, his mother, conveyed to Christian Onedemaker [Wanamaker] of Bergen County, for £150, 50 acres more or less on the W side of the Ramapough River, being part of a large tract shown on a map made by George Ryerson 6 May 1773, known as lot no. 3. Signed by john Schoijdt, Elizabeth Shurte (her mark), Margret Shurte (her mark). Witnessed by William Fitzgerald, Joseph Shurte (his mark). Bergen County Intestate papers were filed on his estate 16 May 1783. ---children of Christian Wanamaker & Grietje Shuart: * Dirk Wannemaker (Richard), b. 18 Dec 17491; bp. 21 Jan. 1750 Paramus Ref Ch (wit: Pieter D. and Marytje Wannemaker); d. 24 Sep 1828 Franklin Twp., Bergen County, NJ; buried Old German Cemetery (Moffat Rd.), Mahwah, NJ; m. about 1771 Margaret Fox. He was listed in the Ramapo Lutheran Church bp. records as "Dietrich Wannemacher." * Adolphus Wanamaker (Adolph Wannemacher1), b. 24 July 1751; bp. 11 Aug 1751 Ramapo Lutheran Church (wit: Adolph Schurt and his wife) (no mother's name in bp record)1; d. 23 Dec 1807; buried Ramapo Ref Ch Cem., Mahwah, NJ; m. 22 Oct 1775, Margaret Fredericks. He died from an injury caused by a horse. * Margaret Wanamaker, b. about 25 Jan 1759; d. 24 Nov 1815; buried Ramapo Ref Ch Cem., Mahwah, NJ; m. (1) Capt. Jonathan Hopper, son of Albert J. Hopper & Rachel Alyea; m. (2) by NJ License dated 17 March 1780, Garret W. Hopper, son of William Hopper & Antje Wesselse.. ---Sources: [1] "Ramapo Lutheran Church Records, 1750-1817" in Proceedings of the New Jersey Historical Society, Vol. VIII, No. 1 (April 1913), p. 6; [2] Davis, John David, Bergen County New Jersey Deed Records 1689-1801, Heritage Books, Inc., 1995, p. 73; Randolph, Howard S. F., and Russell Bruce Rankin, Paramus...Reformed Dutch Church Baptisms...Together with Records from the Gravestones..., 1935; Information August 1996 from Donna Ristenbatt <der@success.net> From The Minutes of the Board of Proprietors of the Eastern Division of New Jersey from 1725 to 1744, Perth Amboy (Re: Ramapo Tract; paraphrased unless in quotes) (Vol. III, p. 318)...28 November 1757...lease for land at Romopock executed, No. 197 to Cristyean Vannemaker, Peter Vannemaker & Adam Vannemaker of 357 acres at 37 s a year for 3 years from 24th March last. ------------------------------ Christian Wanamaker, son of Dirk (Richard) Wanamaker & Margaret Fox, m. 10 Jan 1796 Kakiat Ref Ch, by Rev. G.G. Brinkerhoff, Antye Brower Christian Wanamaker was b. about 11 Dec 1772; d. 3 Jan 1837; buried Ramapo Ref Ch Cem., Mahwah, NJ Christian and Anne had no children. In his will he mentions brothers and sisters, nieces and nephews, and the grandfather of his nieces and nephews, Richard Bush. Will of Christian Wanmaker of Tsp of Franklin, Bergen Co.,NJ, dated: 5 Dec 1836, probated 22 Feb 1837, filed: Hackensack E-119 -- Mentions wife Anna Wanmaker; Mary Peterson, daughter of John Peterson; "four children of my nephew Andrew Hemion, to wit, Christian Wanmaker Hemion, Richard Bush Hemion, Ellen Hemion and Thomas Woodruff Hemion"; brother Henry Wanmaker; sister Maria, wife of David I. Christie; children of my deceased sister Margaret, the wife of Andrew Hemion to wit; William, Andrew and Margaret; children and grandson of my deceased sister Catherine formerly the wife of Paul Van Buskirk and lastly, the wife of Conrad Beam to wit, Hannah, Fanny, Margaret, Richard, Catherine and the son of their dec'd brother Abraham Paul Van Buskirk. Mentions land "left to me by my father Richard Wanmaker, dec'd." ...to sons of my nephew Andrew Hemion, Christian and Richard, an extra $100.00 being the amount I rec'd of their grandfather Richard Bush dec'd estate. Executors: wife, Anne; brother-in-law Thomas Woodruff; friend James Wanamaker. Witnesses: John A. Hopper; William Peterson; Peter Maysinger. ---Sources: Marriage Records of the Reformed Dutch Church of West New Hempstead, New York 1774-1898, also known as "Kakiat" and presently referred to as "Brick Church" online at <http://www.dutchdoorgenealogy.com/>; Information August 1996 from Donna E. Ristenbatt, Manheim, PA; Abstract of will of Christian Wanmaker, dated 5 Dec 1836, in e-mail July 2003 from Ethel Kay Konight <ETHELKK@aol.com> ----------------------------- Christian A. Wanamaker, son of (poss) Adolph/Adolphus Wanamaker & Margaret Fredericks, m. 21 May 1801 Kakiat Ref Ch by Rev. G.G. Brinkerhoff, Maria Suffern (Polly; Mariah), dau. of John Suffern & (1) Maria Myer Christian A. Wanamaker was b. about 1773; d. 3 Jan 1837, ae 64.0.23; buried Island Ref Cem, Mahwah, NJ Maria Suffern was b. 30 Sep 1778; bp. 17 Jan 1779 Clarkstown Ref Ch; d. 1 Mar 1868 Newark, NJ; buried Island Ref Cem, Mahwah, NJ Andrew Suffern of Hempstead, in his will dated 2 Aug 1826, mentioned John, James and Adolphus, the sons of my sister, Mary Wanmaker, the wife of Christan A. Wanmaker of the town of Franklin, Bergen County, N.J., farmer. His will was dated 10 October 1846, Pro: 21 April 1847; Filed: Hackensack F-359. Christian A. Wanamaker - Tsp of Franklin, Bergen Co.,NJ. Will mentions wife Maria; daughters Catharine and Margaret; sons James and Adolphus; "having already provided for my son John"; daughter Ann Maria, the wife of Jacob Hemion; my lands in Cheming County, State of New York. Executors: sons James and Adolphus. Witnesses: Jacob P. Haring, Abraham A. Wanamaker, Anaren? E. Suffern.1 Living with Maria Wanamaker, 70, at the time of the 1850 census were: Margaretta Henion, 3; Jacob Y. Henion, 1; Christian W. [Henion? or Wanamaker?], 15. ---children of Christian A. Wanamaker & Maria Suffern: * Margaret Wanamaker * John Wanamaker * James Suffern Wanamaker, b. 9 May 1809 Mahwah; m. 20 Sep 1831 Nancy Ellen Sloat, dau. of Stephen Sloat * Adolphus C. Wanamaker, b. 1809 Bergen Co., NJ; m. Martha Zabriskie. * Ann Maria Wanamaker, b. about 1812; d. before 1850; m. Jacob D. Hennion, son of David Hennion & Hannah Shurley/Sutherland. * (prob) Christian Wanmaker, b. about 1816; d. 9 Feb 1821, ae 4.0.9; buried Island Ref Chyd, Mahwah, NJ. * Catharine Snyder Wanamaker, b. 18 June 1824; bp. 8 Aug 1824 Saddle River Zion Luth Ch ---Sources: [1] Abstract of will of Christian A. Wanamaker, e-mailed July 2003 from Ethel Kay Konight <ETHELKK@aol.com>; Ackerman & Goff, Records of the Zion Lutheran Churches of Saddle River and Ramapo, NJ (now at Saddle River, Bergen Co., NJ),1943; Kakiat Marriages; Ancestor Table of Marjorie Winter, in Orange County Genealogical Society Newsletter, May 1991, p. 8; Zabriskie, George Olin, The Zabriskie Family, vol. I, p. 365 (#1837b); 1850 Federal Census, Bergen County, Hohokus Township, dwelling 425, family 466; Island Road Cemetery, Mahwah, Bergen County, NJ Gravestone Inscriptions (Ref Ch Cem Extension); Wills & Estates in Rockland County to the End of the Year 1850, NY, Budke Collection BC-68, Compiled by George H. Budke, 1921, transcribed 2003 by Bruce E. Hopper ------------------------------- Christian Wanamaker, son of -?-, m. 7 July 1821 Saddle River Ref Ch, Eva Byard (Effy), dau. of -?-. Christian Wanamaker was b. abt. 1802 Eva Byard was b. abt. 1800 They were listed in the 1860 United States Federal Census, New Jersey, Bergen Co. Hohokus Township, Hohokus P.O., Dwelling 594, Family 673 -- Christian Wanamaker, 58, Farmer, b. NJ; Effy [Wanamaker], 60, Wife, b. NJ They were listed in the 1865 New Jersey Census, living in Hohokus Township: Christian Wanamaker, and Eve Wanamaker. ---children of Christian Wanamaker & Eva Byard: * (poss) Lawrence Wanamaker, b. abt. 1833; m. Mary E. -?- ---Sources: 1860 Federal Census, Bergen County, Hohokus Twp., Hohokus P.O., dwelling 594, family 673 (Mahwah area); 1870 Federal Census, Bergen County, Hohokus Township, Ramsey's P.O., dwelling 150, family 164; 1865 New Jersey State Census, Bergen County, Hohokus Township (#402 Christian and Eve Wanamaker); Reformed Dutch Church of Saddle River (Upper Saddle River, Bergen Co., NJ) Marriages -------------------------------- Christian Wanamaker, son of -?-, m. (prob) Sarah -?- Christian Wanamaker was b. abt. 1826 NJ Sarah -?- was b. abt. 1828 NY They are listed in the 1870 Federal Census, Hohokus Twp., dwelling 116, family 127, prob. living in the Allendale area. ------------------------------ Christian Wanmaker, son of Abraham A. Wanamaker & Mary Wanamaker, m. 3 April 1852 Ramapo Ref Ch, Mahwah (m. at Cherry Lane), Catherine Goetschius, dau. of -?-. Christian Wanmaker was b. 25 July 1829 (or 1828); d. 22 Aug 1902; buried Island Ref Cem, Mahwah, NJ Catherine Goetschius was b. 3 Dec 1829 (ts); d. 8 Aug 1913; buried Island Ref Cem, Mahwah, NJ They were listed in the 1860 United States Federal Census, New York, Rockland Co., Ramapo, Haverstraw P.O., Dwelling 1702, Family 1702 -- Christopher A. Wanamaker, 32, Wheelwright, b. NY; Catharine Wanamaker, 30, b. NY; George [Wanamaker], 7, b. NY. They were listed in the 1880 United States Federal Census, New York, Rockland Co., Town of Ramapo, District 58, Dwelling 39, Family 43 (all b. NY) -- Wanamaker, Christian A., 49, Farmer, his father b. NY, his mother b. NJ; [Wanamaker], Catharine, 48, Wife, Keeping House, her father b. NY, her mother b. NJ; [Wanamaker], George, 28, Son, Grocer; [Wanamaker], Annie M., 26, Daughter in Law, At Home, her father b. Scotland, her mother b. NY; [Wanamaker], Warren L., 1, Grandson. ---children of Christian A. Wanamaker & Catherine Goetschius: * George Wanmaker, b. 24 Jan 1853; bp. 2 Oct 1853 Ramapo Ref Ch, Mahwah; m. Anne Fluke ---Sources: [1] Ackerman, Herbert S., and Arthur J. Goff, [Records of the] Ramapo Reformed Church; Ramapo Lutheran Church, 1944 (reprint 1997 Bergen Historic Books); [2] Information posted April 2003 Rootsweb Family Trees, by Sherry Koshney Downard; Island Road Cemetery, Mahwah, Bergen County, NJ Gravestone Inscriptions (Ref Ch Cem Extension); Ackerman, Herbert S., and Arthur J. Goff, [Records of the] Ramapo Reformed Church; Ramapo Lutheran Church, 1944 (reprint 1997 Bergen Historic Books) ------------------------------ -- Pat & Walter Wardell Englewood, FL the.wardells@gte.net

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sbpeters Surnames: Smith Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.bergen/3173.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sorry, I really wish I could answer that but I've trying to figure out John's family (both children and parents) myself. Sue Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.