In a message dated 10/10/2005 9:17:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, lrfoster@isp.com writes: The bakery was Kneip's next to the Boy's Club in Asbury and I don't think Freedman's bakes them anymore...will ask the next time I'm in the Grove. ================= Yes, and they were the best I ever tasted. Used to go to Freedman's for those and the black and whites. I can still find black and whites at Publix here in Fl. Been eating them since I was too young to remember. Dot