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    1. Re: [NJ-Memories] Schickhaus Franks
    2. Dorothy Borne
    3. But they are still sold under the Schickhaus brand. And, funny thing, they are only sold in the summer so I stock up then to be able to have them all year. Dot ps. Guess it would make sense to sell only in the summer if they are called "griddle" franks. ooo---This Email Scanned for Virus---ooo by ooo--- Norton Anti-Virus---ooo ----- Original Message ----- From: <Up2Nutrix@aol.com> To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 1:36 PM Subject: [NJ-Memories] Schickhaus Franks > In a message dated 10/3/2002 7:25:12 AM Mountain Standard Time, > NJ-MEMORIES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > > > How I loved Schickhaus hot dogs.. my mother would only by that > > brand. Wish I could find them today. Are they still making them? > > Seems to me I heard somewhere that some other company (I don't know which > one) had bought their recipe after Swift & Co. went out of business. > Schickhaus was a subsidiary of Swift, who also made hot dogs. I can still > remember my dad saying that Swift was their owner and also their biggest > competitor. > > Doris in Colorado (Up2Nutrix@aol.com) > "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." -- > Jim Elliot, missionary and martyr > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    10/03/2002 10:21:59
    1. Re: [NJ-Memories] Re: SEED PODS
    2. franor
    3. Isn't it funny that names mean different things to people? A "Skipper" is a flat rock we kids used to try to skip across the water. A good skipper goes a long way others just plop. Another funny, my grandmother never said mop the floor she always "filed it" and sink was a zink. lol. Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: <Up2Nutrix@aol.com> To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 1:53 PM Subject: [NJ-Memories] Re: SEED PODS > In a message dated 10/3/2002 7:25:12 AM Mountain Standard Time, > NJ-MEMORIES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > > > Anybody on that seabean? > > > > Never heard of it; must be a Florida special. And when you say "skipper" > around me, I think of an insect that's about halfway between a butterfly and > a moth. They're not very common, although I'd occasionally see them in NJ, > and a couple of years ago I saw several here in Colorado Springs. > > Lots of plants out there like Jack-in-the-Pulpit; they're members of the arum > family. They all have that plug ("spadix") sticking up in a sheath called a > "spathe." Two common members of that family are calla lily and skunk cabbage. > > Doris in Colorado (Up2Nutrix@aol.com) > "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." -- > Jim Elliot, missionary and martyr > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    10/03/2002 09:02:51
    1. [NJ-Memories] Re: skunk cabbage
    2. Hi, Skunk cabbage, Pee...Ewww! The high school guys used to take it and put it in the old fashioned radiators and it would stink up the school really bad. LOL Pat

    10/03/2002 09:02:05
    1. [NJ-Memories] Re: SEED PODS
    2. In a message dated 10/3/2002 7:25:12 AM Mountain Standard Time, NJ-MEMORIES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > If you want to learn more about seabeans and the different plants and trees > they > come from you can go to www.seabean.com I checked it out, and it was really interesting. I'd never heard of them before, although I did know that nonnative plants can pop up along beaches when their seeds get carried downstream on the tides from some other location. Birds sometimes show up in odd places for the same reason (only on air instead of water); that's how they believe the cattle egret got here from Africa in the last century. Doris in Colorado (Up2Nutrix@aol.com) "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." -- Jim Elliot, missionary and martyr

    10/03/2002 07:58:53
    1. [NJ-Memories] Re: SEED PODS
    2. In a message dated 10/3/2002 7:25:12 AM Mountain Standard Time, NJ-MEMORIES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > Anybody on that seabean? > Never heard of it; must be a Florida special. And when you say "skipper" around me, I think of an insect that's about halfway between a butterfly and a moth. They're not very common, although I'd occasionally see them in NJ, and a couple of years ago I saw several here in Colorado Springs. Lots of plants out there like Jack-in-the-Pulpit; they're members of the arum family. They all have that plug ("spadix") sticking up in a sheath called a "spathe." Two common members of that family are calla lily and skunk cabbage. Doris in Colorado (Up2Nutrix@aol.com) "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." -- Jim Elliot, missionary and martyr

    10/03/2002 07:53:11
    1. [NJ-Memories] Re: Schickhaus Franks
    2. In a message dated 10/3/2002 7:25:12 AM Mountain Standard Time, NJ-MEMORIES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > ShopRite stores sell Schickhaus griddle franks. Unfortunately we don't have ShopRite here in Colorado; it's strictly an Eastern store chain. We have King Soopers/City Market, Safeway and Albertson's, as well as the supermarkets in WalMart and Target SuperStores.

    10/03/2002 07:47:57
    1. [NJ-Memories] Re: hello
    2. In a message dated 10/3/2002 7:25:12 AM Mountain Standard Time, NJ-MEMORIES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > It seems the cousin mentions my gr > grandparents names. And how I asked did she come to know my gr > grandparents......well they were her grandparents. My story isn't quite that good, but it's still interesting . . . and it also shows how RootsWeb can bring people together. I'd touched base with someone on another list who was researching one of the families on my mom's side, and I'd shared with her how I was trying to find my grandfather Beatty's family and hadn't ever been able to get anywhere. She gave me the name "Diane Ward Sives" and an e-mail address to go with it. Once I'd actually touched base with Diane Sives, which took a while, she referred me to Pat (the Pat who's on this list) for Beatty info. At the same time I asked her about the "Ward" in her name, since my great-aunt Nellie was a Ward by marriage. It turned out that Aunt Nellie's husband was Diane's grandfather's brother! We'd both been around the Ward monument works in Hackettstown in our growing-up years, and I wonder how many times I might have seen her back then. I'm older than she is by five years, so I probably would have thought of her as a snot-nosed little kid. Doris in Colorado (Up2Nutrix@aol.com) "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." -- Jim Elliot, missionary and martyr

    10/03/2002 07:45:28
    1. [NJ-Memories] Schickhaus Franks
    2. In a message dated 10/3/2002 7:25:12 AM Mountain Standard Time, NJ-MEMORIES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > How I loved Schickhaus hot dogs.. my mother would only by that > brand. Wish I could find them today. Are they still making them? Seems to me I heard somewhere that some other company (I don't know which one) had bought their recipe after Swift & Co. went out of business. Schickhaus was a subsidiary of Swift, who also made hot dogs. I can still remember my dad saying that Swift was their owner and also their biggest competitor. Doris in Colorado (Up2Nutrix@aol.com) "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." -- Jim Elliot, missionary and martyr

    10/03/2002 07:36:26
    1. Re: [NJ-Memories] hello
    2. "Wonderful good" story Ellen!

    10/03/2002 05:14:32
    1. Re: [NJ-Memories] Re: Talk About a Small World!
    2. franor
    3. ----- Some things take awhile to change. Ever live in a house where it is never changes the name of who lived there many years ago. Been here 6 yrs and its still the Clem house. I do know the diff Doris. I was born in the blue house directly across the Lower Valley Cemetery, its still there. We talk Apgar, Baldwin, Bush,Schuyler, Stillwell and a few others thrown in. Norma Original Message ----- From: <Up2Nutrix@aol.com> To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 12:14 AM Subject: [NJ-Memories] Re: Talk About a Small World! > In a message dated 10/2/2002 3:02:09 PM Mountain Standard Time, > NJ-MEMORIES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > > > The German Valley is still as lovely as it was years ago. > > Interesting that you should call it "German Valley." That name went out > during WWI; I remember the area being called "Long Valley," "Middle Valley," > and "Lower Valley." The cemetery where my mom and her brother, her parents, > her grandparents and great-grandparents are buried is "Lower Valley Union > Cemetery" in Califon, just over the line in Hunterdon County. We're talking > both Beattys and Hoffmans. > > Doris in Colorado (Up2Nutrix@aol.com) >

    10/03/2002 03:20:52
    1. Re: [NJ-Memories] Re: The Hurricane
    2. franor
    3. Pat, What a great morning for you'al. The storm is downgraded to a 2. I know some will be mad, but hey they could have saved their lives if it remained a 4. I am glad you are safe. Now you can sleep all day. lol. Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: <Tacy413408@aol.com> To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 1:50 AM Subject: [NJ-Memories] Re: The Hurricane > Hi, > > It is about 12:45 A.M. and they just said the hurricane is shifting westward > again. It has been quite a day and night. We are getting squalls right now. > > The news crew said that the animals are rushing out of the swamps for higher > ground. They had never seen so much wildlife. Especially deer and my > daughter's friend just said she saw the deer in small groups heading for > higher ground. They are trying to get out before the water rises too much. > > Tonight my kids were watching the birds about twilight. They were very > quiet(unusual) and flocks of them were flying in circles. They would dart one > way and then back the other. It was like they were trying to escape the > storm and didn't know where to go. The large park near my home is a bird > sanctuary. I don't believe these flocks were coming from there. > > The news was supposed to stay on all night, but since the storm just shifted > again they have gone off for a few hours. Once it got past a certain spot > they said it wouldn't swing back as close to us. It kept jogging a little > more towards us earlier. So I guess I can go to bed for awhile. Thanking > everyone for their thoughts and prayers. We appreciate it. > > Pat > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    10/03/2002 02:56:15
    1. [NJ-Memories] MOTHER NATURE
    2. DEAR LIST, TODAY I SAW SOMETHING INCREDIBLE. WE WERE OUT ON THE BIKE TRAIL..POLICEING THE AREA. I HAD MY COMMUNITY SERVICE WORKER WITH ME...SHE,S WORKING OFF HER DUI.... SO WE WERE IN THE GOLFCART.WE SAW THIS SNOWY EGRET..GHE WAS ON THE HUNT..WE WAITED THEN SOON HE NAILED A 3 FT. RAT SNAKE. HE SWALLOWED THE WHOLE THING. HAVN'T SEEN THE BALD EAGLE I SAW THE OTHER DAY.LOTS MORE HAWKS AND FALCONS COMING IN. LOTS OF RARE BIRDS..LIKE A SLATE BACKED GULL....COMES FROM ALASKA. W HAVE OTS OF WHITE TAILED SEDGE.LOOKS LIKE FEATHERS BLOWING IN THE BREEZE..FEILDS OF IT. THE SMALL BIRDS EAT IT. I KNOW THIS WASN'T A NEW JERSEY MEMORY, BUT THIS NEW JERSEY GIRL WILL REMEMBER IT. LEE-IN-THE-KEYS ------------------------------ Sent from my PocketMail Handheld http://www.pocketmail.com

    10/03/2002 12:21:17
    1. [NJ-Memories] Re: The Hurricane
    2. Hi, It is about 12:45 A.M. and they just said the hurricane is shifting westward again. It has been quite a day and night. We are getting squalls right now. The news crew said that the animals are rushing out of the swamps for higher ground. They had never seen so much wildlife. Especially deer and my daughter's friend just said she saw the deer in small groups heading for higher ground. They are trying to get out before the water rises too much. Tonight my kids were watching the birds about twilight. They were very quiet(unusual) and flocks of them were flying in circles. They would dart one way and then back the other. It was like they were trying to escape the storm and didn't know where to go. The large park near my home is a bird sanctuary. I don't believe these flocks were coming from there. The news was supposed to stay on all night, but since the storm just shifted again they have gone off for a few hours. Once it got past a certain spot they said it wouldn't swing back as close to us. It kept jogging a little more towards us earlier. So I guess I can go to bed for awhile. Thanking everyone for their thoughts and prayers. We appreciate it. Pat

    10/02/2002 07:50:52
    1. [NJ-Memories] Cousin Pat and Hurricane Lili
    2. Has anyone heard anything from Pat? I haven't seen her online today, although I'll admit that I haven't been on much. I'm a bit concerned, since I know where Metairie (her home) is -- it's right at the mouth of the Mississippi, at the edge of the storm-warning area. If anyone knows anything, please e-mail me directly. Since I get the digest of the list, I wouldn't hear anything that's posted to the list until late tomorrow or even Friday if the list is at all slow. Thanx -- Doris in Colorado (Up2Nutrix@aol.com) "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." -- Jim Elliot, missionary and martyr

    10/02/2002 06:19:03
    1. [NJ-Memories] Re: Talk About a Small World!
    2. In a message dated 10/2/2002 3:02:09 PM Mountain Standard Time, NJ-MEMORIES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > The German Valley is still as lovely as it was years ago. Interesting that you should call it "German Valley." That name went out during WWI; I remember the area being called "Long Valley," "Middle Valley," and "Lower Valley." The cemetery where my mom and her brother, her parents, her grandparents and great-grandparents are buried is "Lower Valley Union Cemetery" in Califon, just over the line in Hunterdon County. We're talking both Beattys and Hoffmans. I was out there at that cemetery and three others four years ago; that area appeared to be almost completely unchanged from the way I remembered it as a child. More houses on Schooley's Mountain and around Hackettstown, but the rest was the same. Doris in Colorado (Up2Nutrix@aol.com) "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." -- Jim Elliot, missionary and martyr

    10/02/2002 06:14:23
    1. [NJ-Memories] Re: where did you live [Plainfield}
    2. In a message dated 10/2/2002 3:02:09 PM Mountain Standard Time, NJ-MEMORIES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > I lived on Evona Ave, and went to Jefferson School in 1940,fpr 1 year My Dad > worked in Mack Trucks in Plainfield, > Then Moved to the Arbor section of Piscataway on Rushmore Ave went to Arbor > School > I remember the Texas Lunch (I think it was in Scotch Plains or Westfield, but it might have been Plainfield), and O'Brion's butcher shop in that general area, too. Those are the names that stick with me after all these years. A couple of times when some of the people at the Schickhaus plant were on strike and Dad had to deliver the meat in his own car, he'd invite me to come along if I had a day off school. That's how I got to know a bit of his route. Doris in Colorado (Up2Nutrix@aol.com) "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." -- Jim Elliot, missionary and martyr

    10/02/2002 06:08:51
    1. Re: [NJ-Memories] Re: Look what I found
    2. Kittie Ennis Lane
    3. Hi all, I had forgotten all about Walker-Gordon! Thanks for updating my memory bank. Kittie in MD ----- Original Message ----- From: <Up2Nutrix@aol.com> To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 11:57 PM Subject: [NJ-Memories] Re: Look what I found > In a message dated 10/1/2002 8:28:55 PM Mountain Standard Time, > NJ-MEMORIES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > > > I did find this tid bit of info on this web site concerning NJ and Elsie > > the Cow. > > > > http://www.roadsideamerica.com/pet/elsie.html > > > > > > Please give it a try. > > > > I did, and it brought back a childhood memory. My parents took me to the > Walker-Gordon dairy when I was about eight or nine, and I still remember the > Rotolactor. I even learned to spell it that day! The other thing I remember > was drinking my first-ever malted milk there. Thanx for the memory, Robin! > > Doris in Colorado (Up2Nutrix@aol.com) > "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." -- > Jim Elliot, missionary and martyr > > ______________________________

    10/02/2002 02:31:23
    1. Re: [NJ-Memories] SEED PODS
    2. franor
    3. Dot & Lee, I think that should be her calling, she has a mass of information on all the plants in the Keys. She sent me a Seabean and I was hoping someone on here would tell me what it was. It looks like a rock a round skipper type. Sent a picture of an interesting plant looks like a jack in the pullpit? told me a story about how it grows. Anybody on that seabean? Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: Dorothy Borne <dotbnj@earthlink.net> To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] SEED PODS > Lee, > Sounds like you are enjoying your job and all it entails. Maybe you'll > be a horticulturist someday??? > > Dot > ooo---This Email Scanned for Virus---ooo > by > ooo--- Norton Anti-Virus---ooo > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <greenflash60@pocketmail.com> > To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 3:07 PM > Subject: [NJ-Memories] SEED PODS > > > > > > HI, WE HAVE LOADS OFPLANTS WITH BIG SEED PODS ,LIKE OUR ROYLE POIENCINENA > > BIG BROWN PODS WITH THE SEEDS ALL RACKED UP NEATLY..LIKE EGGS IN A > CARTON. WE ALSO HAVE A TROPICAL CERSION OF MIMOSA..THE TREEES ARE LOTS > BIGGER THAN THE N.J. TYPE. > > THEY ARE AN ORANGE-YELLOW COLOR, MAKES ME SNEEZE...THE SEEDS ARE IN A > POD.THE HONG-KONG ORCHID TREES HAVE PODS...IF ANYONE WANTS ANY I CAN GET > THEM...THEY WOULD NEED TO BE NURTURED VERY WELL SINCE THEY ARE SO TROPICAL > AND HAVE SPECIAL NEEDS. > > LEE IN THE KEYS > > > > ------------------------------ > > Sent from my PocketMail Handheld > > http://www.pocketmail.com > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    10/02/2002 02:28:00
    1. Re: [NJ-Memories] SEED PODS
    2. Judy Lamken
    3. Norma, Seabeans are also known as drift seeds. The majority of seeds making Florida landfall originate in South or Central America. These are seeds or fruits which fall from their parent plant, tree or vine and land or wash down into a stream or river. The seeds then travel downstream and arrive at the Atlantic Ocean or Gulf of Mexico, only to be caught up in currents leading to the Gulf Stream. The Gulf Stream loops into the Gulf of Mexico, cruises past the southern tip of Florida and then up the east coast of the United States. Many seabeans leave the Gulf Stream and head toward the coast of Florida, where some eventually land on the beaches and shorelines. These seeds are usually hidden in the layers of "wrack" - or lines of seaweed - that pinstripe the high tide line of many beaches. If you want to learn more about seabeans and the different plants and trees they come from you can go to www.seabean.com There is even a seabean collection in the Brevard Museum in Melbourne, FL. Seabeans are used in crafts, particularly jewelry. This is bazaar season in Miami (they are a big deal) and lots of the venders have seabean jewelry. Judy ------ Judy Lamken, Kilkee Kerries Chicagoland mailto:kerries@kilkee.net franor wrote: > Dot & Lee, > I think that should be her calling, she has a mass of information on all the > plants in the Keys. She sent me a Seabean and I was hoping someone on here > would tell me what it was. It looks like a rock a round skipper type. Sent > a picture of an interesting plant looks like a jack in the pullpit? told me > a story about how it grows. Anybody on that seabean? > Norma > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dorothy Borne <dotbnj@earthlink.net> > To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 3:07 PM > Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] SEED PODS > > > Lee, > > Sounds like you are enjoying your job and all it entails. Maybe > you'll > > be a horticulturist someday??? > > > > Dot > > ooo---This Email Scanned for Virus---ooo > > by > > ooo--- Norton Anti-Virus---ooo > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <greenflash60@pocketmail.com> > > To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 3:07 PM > > Subject: [NJ-Memories] SEED PODS > > > > > > > > > > HI, WE HAVE LOADS OFPLANTS WITH BIG SEED PODS ,LIKE OUR ROYLE > POIENCINENA > > > BIG BROWN PODS WITH THE SEEDS ALL RACKED UP NEATLY..LIKE EGGS IN A > > CARTON. WE ALSO HAVE A TROPICAL CERSION OF MIMOSA..THE TREEES ARE LOTS > > BIGGER THAN THE N.J. TYPE. > > > THEY ARE AN ORANGE-YELLOW COLOR, MAKES ME SNEEZE...THE SEEDS ARE IN A > > POD.THE HONG-KONG ORCHID TREES HAVE PODS...IF ANYONE WANTS ANY I CAN GET > > THEM...THEY WOULD NEED TO BE NURTURED VERY WELL SINCE THEY ARE SO TROPICAL > > AND HAVE SPECIAL NEEDS. > > > LEE IN THE KEYS > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > Sent from my PocketMail Handheld > > > http://www.pocketmail.com > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --

    10/02/2002 02:25:54
    1. Re: [NJ-Memories] hello
    2. franor
    3. >Ellen, It did make sense and it was a wonderful story. Don't you just love happy endings? Norma ----- Original Message ----- > From: <ELLEN542@aol.com> > To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 5:48 PM > Subject: [NJ-Memories] hello > > > > I have an interesting story that deals with my family research. > > > > My mom was born in NJ but grew up in Pa. Pa is where my Gr Grandmother > and > > Gr Grandfather migrated to after arriving from England. At age of 16 my > mom > > went to live in NJ and stayed there and married. I, in later years move > to > > Pa with my husband (who I met in NJ) who it turns out was born and grew up > in > > the same city as my mother (Pa). He even knew some of her relatives. > > > > We moved to Pa in 1971 and I made friends with a girl named Ellie. One > night > > I am at Ellies house with her cousin who was visiting from NJ and for some > > reason we start talking about family. It seems the cousin mentions my gr > > grandparents names. And how I asked did she come to know my gr > > grandparents......well they were her grandparents. Wow, well I call Mom > on > > the phone and say, hey I'm coming over to get you. I didn't tell her that > > Ellie had company. Mom comes in sits down and we still don't say > anything. > > June (the cousin from Jersey) just can't take it anymore and runs over and > > starts hugging my mother. It seems they grew up together and was a cousin > of > > my moms. Mom loved it and cried and was so happy, they hadn't seen each > > other in at least 30 years. So now Ellie and I are not only very good > > friends but we're related LOLOLOL > > > > Did that make any sense to you guys? It did to me.....LOL > > > > ellen > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    10/02/2002 02:23:44