In a message dated 10/14/2002 10:02:33 PM Mountain Standard Time, NJ-MEMORIES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > We have a redshouldered hawk in the neighborhood. > He thinks my bird and squirrel feeders are his breakfast and supper table. > We've had a similar problem with a Cooper's hawk that thinks that the birds who come in for a meal at my feeders are his dinner. I've seen that bird sitting on our fence, keeping the house finches and house sparrows absolutely terrorized and afraid to fly out of the bushes. Every so often he would make a dive into the neighbor's bush to see whether he could flush out a meal-on-wings. Doris in Colorado (Up2Nutrix@aol.com) "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." -- Jim Elliot, missionary and martyr

In a message dated 10/14/2002 10:02:33 PM Mountain Standard Time, NJ-MEMORIES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > WE HAVE > AMERICAN KESTRALS > MERINS > PERGRINES > One place to see peregrine falcons in NJ is along the Palisades. The birds nest along the cliffs, in cracks and crannies. We've seen them occasionally while hiking in that area. Out our way, the Air Force Academy sponsors a falcon-breeding program that's getting the birds established along the Rampart Range, the mountains that the Academy backs up against. And at home games during the half-time festivities, the cadets put on a falcon show, with those beautiful birds swooping high into the air over the stadium and then dropping back down. It's a real treat to watch them. We also have kestrels around here, and Northern harriers and red-tailed hawks as well. Back in California I'd occasionally see red-shouldered hawks, but not very often. My own favorite hawk story happened while Bill and I were engaged, going on 38 years ago. Bill had taken me up to visit his mother in Chatham, NY, over Easter weekend, and on Sunday afternoon we drove over to Pittsfield State Forest in Massachusetts, a favorite spot of his. We took a really nice hike along a hiking trail that had been used for cross-country skiing only a few weeks before and which still had a few snow-and-ice patches on it. We didn't have any problems on the way out, but on the way back we accidentally disturbed a pair of goshawks that were setting up housekeeping only about a hundred feet or so from the trail. Those two birds dive-bombed us for about two or three hundred yards, and only quick running behind trees at the last possible instant kept us from getting our scalps ripped. About a year later we were hiking in the same area and got almost the same reception again, probably from the same pair of birds. Doris in Colorado (Up2Nutrix@aol.com) "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." -- Jim Elliot, missionary and martyr

Hi Gang, Did you all miss me? Tom and I were in Niagara Falls this weekend with friends.On the way home yesterday we stopped at Letchford State Park and Houghton College.Our friends are grads from there. In the park we saw two lovely waterfalls that were smaller than Niagara,of course,but just as awesome.There was a huge craft Show and fair in the park with over 1200 dealers.Aparently this is a yearly event.We did some Christmas shopping,and got several unique things. I am still catching up on my E-mails from the long weekend of being away,so if I owe any list members a letter,I will catch up in the next few days.We had an absolutely wonderful time.Friday night we were at Locust Lakes in Pa. Poconos at our friends' cabin,then we left for Niagara on Sat. AM. We arrived around noon,and even the rain didn't deter us from having fun.The falls were more spectacular than I remember from when I was there as a child.Sunday we did the Maid of the Mist ride,then went on to the floral clock,the gorge,and on up the river to Niagara-on-the-Lake.We drove on to Lake Ontario antiquing and enjoying the fall colors on the way.Since we were with the couple with whom we did the English Canal trip with last year ,it was fitting that we saw a lock open on the Welland Canal .We were glad we did not have to work the lock! .Nent we dined at a wonderful little restaurant overlooking Lake Ontario.It was the Canadian Thanksgiving,so we had turkey.We also took a ride [for a nickel!]on a restored turn -of-the-century merry-go-round and in general had a ball. Doris,I am afraid we did not see your friend.:-0,although i was constantly looking for her. The B+B we stayed at in Niagara was only 2 blocks from the falls,and we could even hear them from our balcony.The inn was owned by a couple who has come to Canada 10 years ago from Croatia.They were quite an interesting family.We can only imagine how blessed we are to live in our land, folks. All in all ,it was a fairytale weekend.If you ever want to know a good place to stay in Niagara on the Canadian side I will tell you where it is.The price is more than reasonable. The leaves were wonderful ,especially in N.Y. state. The weekend was chock full of God's awesome creation,and we were wowed! Jerilyn , One who still is glad she resides in the glorious Garden State

Hi everyone. I believe it was just about any brand of cigarettes that your got out of a machine. You put your quarter in, pulled the knob, and out came your pack with 2 pennies inside the cellopane. Roberta Dixon Pastor St Petersburg Fla ~~<~@ (rosebud)

Hi lee, Go ahead and "RAMBLE ON" all you want about all the wild life you see. It is interesting to me as I can't get out the way I used to. Your rambling is almost as good as being there with you. Thank you, Betty

Hi Diesel& Ellen, My husband doesn't remember the name but remembers kids going into candy stores to buy Wing's with the pictures of air planes in them. Betty

HI ALL. YESTERDAYISAID I RELEASED A REDTAILED HAWK..SORRY IT WAS A COOPERS HAWK. NOTMUCH GOING ONTODAY.IT'S WINDY. WE ARE EXPECTING A TROPICAL STORM POSSIBLY. WE WON'T GET A DIRECT HIT. THE STRONGEST WINDS MIGHT UP TO 60 MPH. DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE THE BOAT TO WHISKEY CREEK. LEE-IN-THE-KEYS ------------------------------ Sent from my PocketMail Handheld http://www.pocketmail.com

In a message dated 10/14/02 11:41:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, dotbnj@earthlink.net writes: > Speaking of hawks. We have a redshouldered hawk in the neighborhood. > He thinks my bird and squirrel feeders are his breakfast and supper table. > I am missing several of my squirrels. He has already gotten one of our > chipmunks. Saw him flying away with him. I wish he'd leave. I feel > guilty > feeding the birds thinking he might eat one. > Dot > Dot, We have a few hawks around our place also. There are a few small hawk's who do kill the small bird's at the feeder. There is one big Hawk however, who is to slow to catch small bird's, so he feed's off slower moving creature's in the field's. Plenty of Turkey's this year, they come right up to our front porch looking for food. There are also plenty of big buck's this year, but I'm to lazy to clean them, so I don't hunt any more. There was frost on the pumpkin's this morning. I cut some tree's down yesterday, and got to do some fire wood cutting today, after when it warms up some that is. It look's like winter is on the way. I spent Saturday at the Hershey Auto Show in Harrisburg. I go every year, I love looking at all the old cars there. Brings back plenty of old memories. Wish I would have kept all my old car's, specially my 1956 Mustang. Diesel

And here I thought the Mustang didn't come out until 1964! Tell us Diesel, what did it look like? :-) Judy ------ Judy Lamken, Kilkee Kerries Chicagoland mailto:kerries@kilkee.net DieselDis@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/14/02 11:41:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > dotbnj@earthlink.net writes: > > > Speaking of hawks. We have a redshouldered hawk in the neighborhood. > > He thinks my bird and squirrel feeders are his breakfast and supper table. > > I am missing several of my squirrels. He has already gotten one of our > > chipmunks. Saw him flying away with him. I wish he'd leave. I feel > > guilty > > feeding the birds thinking he might eat one. > > Dot > > > > Dot, > We have a few hawks around our place also. There are a few small hawk's > who do kill the small bird's at the feeder. There is one big Hawk however, > who is to slow to catch small bird's, so he feed's off slower moving > creature's in the field's. Plenty of Turkey's this year, they come right up > to our front porch looking for food. There are also plenty of big buck's this > year, but I'm to lazy to clean them, so I don't hunt any more. There was > frost on the pumpkin's this morning. I cut some tree's down yesterday, and > got to do some fire wood cutting today, after when it warms up some that is. > It look's like winter is on the way. I spent Saturday at the Hershey Auto > Show in Harrisburg. I go every year, I love looking at all the old cars > there. Brings back plenty of old memories. Wish I would have kept all my old > car's, specially my 1956 Mustang. > Diesel > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --

Does anybody remember the brand of cigarettes that when you bought them you got two pennies inside the pack? I vaguely remember that....but I was not old enough to smoke at the time.... ellen Ellen, That did ring a bell with me, but can't remember the brand. I do remember cigarette's called Wing's during the forty's, and they came with a few pictures of air planes in them. Diesel

Doris, i0e seen quail IN N.J. AND SOUTH CAROLINA. NEATTO SEEMOM AND KIDS RUNNING BEIND HER.THOSE HAD THE QUESTION MARK FEATHER.I'M LEARNING ALOT OBOUT MOTHER NATURE. DOT, YOU ARE RIGT ABOUT HOW THE RAPTORS ( HAWKS AND FALCONS ) GO AFTER THEIR PREY, YES, THE FALCONS CAN DIVE 200 MPH AND CAN SEE A LITTLE MOUSE RUNING AROUND IN A FEILD VERY HGH UP. THE KEYS HAS 5 PAIRS OF NESTING BALD EAGLES. JUST THINK BEN FRANKLIN WANTED A TURKEYAS OURNATIONAL BIRD. THE EAGLEIS CERTANLY MORE MAJESTIC LOOKING THAN " TOM TURKEY " THEY SAY THAT OUR VEIWING AREA IS THE BEST LACE IN THE WORLD TO SEE THE RAPTORS. THIS MIGRATION WILL BE GOING ON TILL NOV.15TH. I WILL MISS ALL THE PEOPLE I'VE MET AND BECOME FRIENDS WITH. JAN FROM WASH. STATE GERRARD FROM NEW YORK STATE KAREN FROM PA. ( HAWK MT. ) CASEY, OUR PH.D ORNITHOOLOGIST JULIE FROM FLA. THEY HAVE OPENED UP A WHOLE NEW WORLD FOR ME. SOON I'LL KNOW HW TO SPOT AN AMERICAN KESTRAL( FACON ) A BROAD TAILED HAWK, A RED TAILED HAWK..THEY DO IT MOSTLY BY THE HAPEOF THE BIRD, THE SIZE AND LENGHTOF THE TAIL ECT. SOME DAYS THESEBIRDS ARE FLYING VERY HIGH UP, RIDING THE THERMALS AS THEY MIGRATE DOWN OUR COASTLINE. VERY AWESOME. SORRY IF I RAMBLE ON ABOUT THIS...IT,S JUST SO NEAT. LEE-IN-THE-KEYS ------------------------------ Sent from my PocketMail Handheld http://www.pocketmail.com

Hi Everyone, Had a mini family get together this weekend and we got talking about "do you remember this? do you remember that?" and someone mentioned something I had completely forgotten about. Does anybody remember the brand of cigarettes that when you bought them you got two pennies inside the pack? I vaguely remember that....but I was not old enough to smoke at the time.... ellen

In a message dated 10/14/2002 3:04:09 AM Mountain Standard Time, NJ-MEMORIES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > So far Norton has caught all of them (I > think) and I check every morning for them. > Unless there's a new type of virus out there, you don't need to worry about getting them if you don't download anything that people send you. I've made a practice of not opening any downloads that I wasn't expecting, no matter who sends them to me. That's kept me virus-free for the six years that we've been online. A good friend of mine out in California sent me the Goodtimes virus about four or five years ago. She didn't know that she had it when she sent it out, and I didn't know that it was being shipped to me. But since I didn't download the attachment, I never got the virus. She had to get rid of the virus, and so did the mutual friend of ours who had in all innocence sent it to her. Doris in Colorado (Up2Nutrix@aol.com) "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." -- Jim Elliot, missionary and martyr

My dau has a toy rat terrier and she cannot find a sweater small enuf to fit her. She weighs about 5 lbs. Does anyone on the list have directions to knit or crochet a doggie sweater that might fit her? I have tried larger ones and cut them down but they don't come out right. A chihahua (sp?) sweater would probably work. Dot ooo---This Email Scanned for Virus---ooo by ooo--- Norton Anti-Virus---ooo

Dorothy Borne wrote: > My dau has a toy rat terrier and she cannot find a sweater small enuf to fit > her. She weighs about 5 lbs. Does anyone on the list have directions to > knit or crochet a doggie sweater that might fit her? I have tried larger > ones and cut them down but they don't come out right. A chihahua (sp?) > sweater would probably work. > Dot No directions to knit or crochet a sweater but the small sweaters are available from the mail order companies, I just pulled out my J-B Wholesale Pet Supplies catalog and found an xx-small sweater for $5.95. J-B is a NJ company so that keeps it on topic. :-) They are in Oakland, where the Boy Scout camps, Camp Glen Grey and Camp Tamarack were located. I have known the owners for years, In fact, my customer # is in the low 100's. It would have been lower but I used to go right to the company and get my things. Their web site is jbpet.com and their toll free # is 800-526-0388. Within NJ the # is 201-405-1111 The sweater I'm looking at in the xx-small only comes in 2 colors, red and cobalt. Larger sizes have other colors available too. The xx-small measurement is 6" from the base of the neck to the base of the tail. If you think this is too large call them as they they have sizes to fit all dogs and puppies. Hope this helps! Judy ------ Judy Lamken, Kilkee Kerries Chicagoland mailto:kerries@kilkee.net

HI ALL ! TODAY I GOT TO HOLD AND RELEASE A BEUTIFUL RED TAILED HAWK, SHE WAS PRETTY BIG..APROX. 2 YEAR OLD FEMALE WITH REDISH-ORANGE EYES. THE MORE I LEARN ABOUT THESE BIRDS ,THE MORE FASCINATING IT IS FOR ME. WE MIHT BE GETTING A TROPICAL DEPRESSION TOMORROW. MAYBE I'LL TAKE THE DAY OFF. MORE LATER. LEE IN THE KEYS ------------------------------ Sent from my PocketMail Handheld http://www.pocketmail.com

Lee, Sounds great. I'd love to have held a Peregrine Falcon. We went to Hawk Mtn in PA a few years ago and learned that this bird dive bombs from above at incredible spead and curls his feet into like fists and hits his prey on the back of the neck, breaking it and killing the bird on the wing. He is so fast that he can fly down below the bird he killed and catch it as it falls. I was amazed. Speaking of hawks. We have a redshouldered hawk in the neighborhood. He thinks my bird and squirrel feeders are his breakfast and supper table. I am missing several of my squirrels. He has already gotten one of our chipmunks. Saw him flying away with him. I wish he'd leave. I feel guilty feeding the birds thinking he might eat one. Dot ooo---This Email Scanned for Virus---ooo by ooo--- Norton Anti-Virus---ooo ----- Original Message ----- From: <greenflash60@pocketmail.com> To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 9:51 AM Subject: [NJ-Memories] thrilling experience > HI ALL, > AS YOU KOW I'M WORKING AT CURRY HAMMOCK STATE PARK HERE AT GRASSY KEY. > THE CATCH THE BIRDS AND BAND THEM,THEY ALSO BRING THEBIRDS OVER AS PART OF THE RAPTOR EDUCATION. SO TODAY THE BROUGHT OVER A PERIGRINE FALCON,JAN AKED IF I WANTED TO HOLD IT WHILE SHE TOLD VISITORS ABOUT IT. THE BIRDS ARE CAUGHTIN A NET,BANDED THEN USUALLY RELEASED, THEY PUT THEM IN A CAN HEAD FIRST,THE SLIDE THEM OUT HOLDING DOWN THE WINGS AND VERY SHARP TALONS,THE EYES ARE SO VERY BIG COMPARED TO THE SIZE OF THE REST OF THE BIRD. AMAZING, SO I TOOK IT FROM JAN..WHO HAD REMOVED HER FROM THE CAN. > SHE ( THE FALCON ) WAS A BIT STRESSY,BUT PT UP WITH BEING EXHIBITED,THE I THREW HER UPTO THE SKY AND SHE FLEW AWAY..NO....NO GLOVE OR ANY PROTECTION..IT WAS AWESOME. > JUST THOUGHT I'D SHARE THIS INCREDIBLE ADVENTURE WITH YOU ALL. > WE HAVE > AMERICAN KESTRALS > MERINS > PERGRINES > IN THE HAWK FAMILY WE HAVE > BROAD TAILED HAWK > SHORTSHINNED HAWK > RED TAILED HAWK > COOPERS HAWK > RED SHOULDERED HAWK ( RARE ) > > THEY SAW OUR VEIWING AREA FOR THE FALCONS IS THE BEST IN THE WORLD. WE'RE GETTING QUITE A BIT OF NOTERITY ON THIS EVENT OF BANDING, COUNTING AND THE ENTIRE MIGRATION PROCESS. > > LEE IN THE KEYS > > ------------------------------ > Sent from my PocketMail Handheld > http://www.pocketmail.com > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Marie, I remember one writer for Area Auto Racing News (Len S) we all got together for a big event one year in Trenton where they gave out awards. Does that paper exsist yet? Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: <PalmaG72@aol.com> To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 5:27 AM Subject: [NJ-Memories] Car Races > Norma - My brother -in- law is a great fan of the NASCAR - he wrote for a NJ > Race Car newspaper -altho he didn't race was at most of the races -he is 73 > now and still goes -Marie G > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Good Morning All, Did anyone watch the Jackie Gleason movie last night. I missed the very end, did he go back with his wife in the end? I thought it was well done, and enjoyed watching it. Diesel

HI ALL, AS YOU KOW I'M WORKING AT CURRY HAMMOCK STATE PARK HERE AT GRASSY KEY. THE CATCH THE BIRDS AND BAND THEM,THEY ALSO BRING THEBIRDS OVER AS PART OF THE RAPTOR EDUCATION. SO TODAY THE BROUGHT OVER A PERIGRINE FALCON,JAN AKED IF I WANTED TO HOLD IT WHILE SHE TOLD VISITORS ABOUT IT. THE BIRDS ARE CAUGHTIN A NET,BANDED THEN USUALLY RELEASED, THEY PUT THEM IN A CAN HEAD FIRST,THE SLIDE THEM OUT HOLDING DOWN THE WINGS AND VERY SHARP TALONS,THE EYES ARE SO VERY BIG COMPARED TO THE SIZE OF THE REST OF THE BIRD. AMAZING, SO I TOOK IT FROM JAN..WHO HAD REMOVED HER FROM THE CAN. SHE ( THE FALCON ) WAS A BIT STRESSY,BUT PT UP WITH BEING EXHIBITED,THE I THREW HER UPTO THE SKY AND SHE FLEW AWAY..NO....NO GLOVE OR ANY PROTECTION..IT WAS AWESOME. JUST THOUGHT I'D SHARE THIS INCREDIBLE ADVENTURE WITH YOU ALL. WE HAVE AMERICAN KESTRALS MERINS PERGRINES IN THE HAWK FAMILY WE HAVE BROAD TAILED HAWK SHORTSHINNED HAWK RED TAILED HAWK COOPERS HAWK RED SHOULDERED HAWK ( RARE ) THEY SAW OUR VEIWING AREA FOR THE FALCONS IS THE BEST IN THE WORLD. WE'RE GETTING QUITE A BIT OF NOTERITY ON THIS EVENT OF BANDING, COUNTING AND THE ENTIRE MIGRATION PROCESS. LEE IN THE KEYS ------------------------------ Sent from my PocketMail Handheld http://www.pocketmail.com