In a message dated 11/21/2002 1:06:07 AM Mountain Standard Time, NJ-MEMORIES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > WHO REMEMBERS THE HALE-BOOP A FW YEAR AGO. I remember Hale-Bopp; that was almost six years ago now. That came by at just about the time that we were moving from California to Colorado. I saw it several times before we moved; and when we got into our rented house in Colorado, we had an orchestra seat on cloudless evenings. Hale-Bopp was setting over the Rampart Range of the Rockies, and I set up my tripod and took several pictures of it. Our current house is much nicer, but it doesn't have that second-story deck facing the mountains. Kahoutek was the comet that fizzled back in 1974. Our daughter was in second grade, and the teachers got the class together for an evening of comet watching. What they saw was . . . absolutely nothing. There was another comet, though, the year before Hale-Bopp came through. That one had a long Japanese name that I'm not sure I can spell right -- Hayakutake, or something like that. That one never got close enough for a distinct tail to be seen; all you could see was something that looked like a cotton ball in the sky, and you had to know exactly where to look in order to see it. We watched it a couple of times in California, and I think I recall having some pictures of it that weren't all that great. I'll have to look in my photos for 1996. The latest pass-by of Halley's Comet was a fizzle, like Kahoutek. In fact, it was so anticlimactic that I don't even remember when it was. I think it was sometime in the 1980s. Doris in Colorado (Up2Nutrix@aol.com) "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." -- Jim Elliot, missionary and martyr

In a message dated 11/20/2002 2:02:26 AM Mountain Standard Time, NJ-MEMORIES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > >Incidentally, that meteorite that smashed through the roof of that car in > >Peekskill, NY, came in to celebrate my 52nd birthday. What can we do as an > > >encore for my 65th? :-} > > > >Doris > > Doris, > I don't know, but I'm hiding that day. > Diesel > Diesel . . . YOU CHICKEN!!!!!!!! :-P Doris in Colorado (Up2Nutrix@aol.com) "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." -- Jim Elliot, missionary and martyr

In a message dated 11/20/2002 2:02:26 AM Mountain Standard Time, NJ-MEMORIES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > Glad I never had to go through it again - head to toe and places I never > knew about. It lasted about a week. I think that the worst case of poison-ivy reaction I ever heard of was a friend of ours back in NJ some 30 or 35 years ago. She and her husband and some friends were out hiking, and she needed to "use the facilities." Unfortunately she picked the wrong leaves to use for toilet paper, and the resulting eruption kept her lying on her back for a week or more afterwards. Somewhere I remember reading about a woman in somewhat the same situation who got bitten on the bare backside by a rattlesnake. This was in the days when they were still recommending tourniquets for snakebites, and nobody could figure out where to put the tourniquet. Doris in Colorado (Up2Nutrix@aol.com) "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." -- Jim Elliot, missionary and martyr

Did anyone happen to see the penumbral eclipse of the moon yesterday evening? It peaked off at about quarter to nine in Eastern time and two hours earlier here in Mountain Time. We saw it from our kitchen window; it's not as dramatic as a "real" eclipse, but it still was interesting. The moon passes through not the full shadow of the earth but the part of the shadow where some but not all of the sun's light on the moon is blocked. The result is a "graying down" of the affected area of the moon's surface. I'd seen the report of it in the Skywatcher's Diary that I download around the first of every month; it's put out by Michigan State University's Abrams Planetarium. But I forgot all about it until I looked out the window around six and noticed that the upper right part of the full moon looked faintly shadowed, almost as if a wispy cloud were drifting across it. That was when I remembered the note about the penumbral eclipse and re-read it. Quite a week for celestial shows . . . first the Leonids; then the penumbral eclipse. What next? Doris in Colorado (Up2Nutrix@aol.com) "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." -- Jim Elliot, missionary and martyr

Lee, I don't envy you that job. Found out we have water moccasins, copperheads and pygmy rattlers where we are moving in the country. Moccasins and rattlers are both aggressive. Thank God, it was the green snake that I met in my wanderings. He froze and so did I. I was so careful backing up that I forgot to check and see if his mate was around. My husband and daughter still laugh about me running and waving my arms yelling snake, snake. The snake probably went home and said you should have seen that dippy broad run. LOL Pat

Here is a web site for you to take an 8th grade math test. See if you did as poorly as I (math was NEVER my strong suit)! Have fun with it. http://encarta.msn.com/quiz/quiz.asp?quizid=95 Judy

just found out we have los of snakes over on the bike trail. Water mochs. they like to hang out in freshwater puddles after te rain.They are very agressive. So,I'll be the lookout for snakes and poisionwood. a dangerous combo. lee-in-the-key Dot, eating green and red m and m's ------------------------------ This mobile message sent using PocketMail. Sign up for unlimited e-mail at www.PocketMail.com.

HI ALL! WELL,HOW MANY OF US ACTUALLY GOT TO SEE THE BIG EVENT. ? I DIDN'T IKEPTLOOKIG ALLNIGHT.THE HATCH S PLEXIE GLASS SO YOU CAN LOK RIGT UP AND SEE MOON AND STARS. THE MOON WAS VERY BRIGHT DOWN HERE...EVEN TE STARS THAT ARE USUALLY VERY BRIGHT WERE DIMMER BECAUSE OF TH MOON BUT I KEPT STICKIG MY HEAD UTSIDE TO S WHA I COULD SEE...WICH WAS ABSOLUTEL NOTHING. VERY DISAPOINTING. I WAS REALLY OKING FORWARD TO IT. I MAY NOT BE AROUND FOR THE NEXT ONE. SEEMS LIKE THERE WILL BE SOME FROM SOMEPLACE ELSE. WHO REMEMBERS THE HALE-BOOP A FW YEAR AGO..THAT WAS A COMET OR KAHOTECK A FEW YEARS AGO, HEN HALEY'S COMET WAS AROUND ...EVERY 32 YEARS FOR THAT ONE. WELL, I MISSED IT. BUT I WASN,T THE OLYONE...DARN. LEE-IN-THE-KEYS ------------------------------ This mobile message sent using PocketMail. Sign up for unlimited e-mail at www.PocketMail.com.

Some of you can relate to this. It makes for some good memories in NJ and elsewhere. Dot Well, you are over thirty-five if you get this. You lived as a child in the 60s or the 70s. Looking back, it's hard to believe that we have lived as long as we have................. As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags. Riding in the back of a pickup truck on a warm day was always a special treat. Our baby cribs were covered with bright colored lead-based paint. We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors,or cabinets,and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets. (Not to mention hitchhiking to town as a young kid!) We drank water from the garden hose and not from a bottle. Horrors. We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then rode down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into the bushes a few times we learned to solve the problem. We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the streetlights came on. No one was able to reach us all day. No cell phones. Unthinkable. We played dodgeball and sometimes the ball would really hurt. We got cut and broke bones and broke teeth and there were no law suits from these accidents. They were accidents. No one was to blame but us. Remember accidents? We had fights and punched each other and got black and blue and learned to get over it. We ate cupcakes, bread and butter, and drank sugar soda but we were never overweight.... .....we were always outside playing. We shared one grape soda with four friends, from one bottle and no one died from this? We did not have Playstations, Nintendo 64, X Boxes, video games at all, 99 channels on cable, video tape movies, surround sound, personal cellular phones, Personal Computers, Internet chat rooms, ............... we had friends. We went outside and found them. We rode bikes or walked to a friend's home and knocked on the door, or rung the bell or just walked in and talked to them. Imagine such a thing. Without asking a parent! By ourselves! Out there in the cold cruel world! Without a guardian. How did we do it? We made up games with sticks and tennis balls and ate worms and although we were told it would happen, we did not put out very many eyes, nor did the worms live inside us forever. Little League had tryouts and not everyone made the team. Those who didn't had to learn to deal with disappointment..... Some students weren't as smart as others so they failed a grade and were held back to repeat the same grade.....Horrors. Tests were not adjusted for any reason. Our actions were our own. Consequences were expected. No one to hide behind. The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke a law was unheard of. They actually sided with the law, imagine that! This generation has produced some of the best risk-takers and problem solvers and inventors, ever. The past 50 years has been an explosion of innovation and new ideas. We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned how to deal with it all. And you're one of them. Congratulations! Please pass this on to others that have had the luck to grow up as kids, before lawyers and government regulated our lives, for our own good? ooo---This Email Scanned for Virus---ooo by ooo--- Norton Anti-Virus---ooo

I was up at 3:00 but it was over cast here in good ole NJ Really wanted to see it. Betty

In a message dated 11/19/02 9:55:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, Up2Nutrix@aol.com writes: > Incidentally, that meteorite that smashed through the roof of that car in > Peekskill, NY, came in to celebrate my 52nd birthday. What can we do as an > encore for my 65th? :-} > > Doris Doris, I don't know, but I'm hiding that day. Diesel

Me too!! She really does try, but her mind works faster than her fingers. Lol. Too many things at one time, right Lee? I know how that is, I try to play the piano and it just doesn't work. Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: Dorothy Borne <dotbnj@earthlink.net> To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] meteor shower > Wow, I'm impressed. Not only no mistakes but capitals where they belong > also. LOL > Dot > ooo---This Email Scanned for Virus---ooo > by > ooo--- Norton Anti-Virus---ooo > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <greenflash60@pocketmail.com> > To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 10:24 PM > Subject: [NJ-Memories] meteor shower > > > > Everyone.. > > I hope I'm not the only one on the list looking at this rare event. > speaking of which...this post has no mistakes. > > > > Lee-in-the-Keys > > > > ------------------------------ > > Sent from my PocketMail Handheld > > http://www.pocketmail.com > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Glad I never had to go through it again - head to toe and places I never knew about. It lasted about a week. I had no medication. At least when I get the hives from an allergy, I have medication. Progress--- Went out about 1115 last night - clear but nothing. Checked about 5:30 - very overcast. We saw it a couple of years ago from the airport - what a beautiful show it was. -----Original Message----- From: greenflash60@pocketmail.com [mailto:greenflash60@pocketmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:56 AM To: NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NJ-Memories] poisioness plants Ginny, First of all let me say tat Sea Isle City is one of my most favorite places in NEW JERSEY AS FAR AS POSIONESS STUFF, LIKE PISION IVY, SUMAC, POISIN IVY . WE HAVE POISIONWOOD... LONG DARK GREENSHINEY LEAVES WITH A LIGHT GREEN VEIN DOWN THE CENTER. THE BERRIES ARE TE MAIN DIET OF THE WHITE CROWNED PIDGEON. AMAZING HOW THEY ARE NOT ADVERSELY AFFECTED. BUT HUMAN CONTACT IS ALMOST ALWAYS VERY BADAN EXTREME CASE REQUIRES I.V. STERIODS.i geuss a bad case of poision ,Sumac will do the same if a prson is extremely sensitive. Be happy you don't have to deal with this particular plant. It gets quite tall. Lee-in-the-Keys ------------------------------ Sent from my PocketMail Handheld http://www.pocketmail.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Wow, I'm impressed. Not only no mistakes but capitals where they belong also. LOL Dot ooo---This Email Scanned for Virus---ooo by ooo--- Norton Anti-Virus---ooo ----- Original Message ----- From: <greenflash60@pocketmail.com> To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 10:24 PM Subject: [NJ-Memories] meteor shower > Everyone.. > I hope I'm not the only one on the list looking at this rare event. speaking of which...this post has no mistakes. > > Lee-in-the-Keys > > ------------------------------ > Sent from my PocketMail Handheld > http://www.pocketmail.com > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

.So much for NC too, too many trees and moonlight. I will never make the one in 2037. Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: betty <grandma.dilley@verizon.net> To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Re: meteor shower > I was up at 3:00 but it was over cast here in good ole NJ > Really wanted to see it. > > Betty > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

In a message dated 11/19/2002 6:57:09 AM Mountain Standard Time, NJ-MEMORIES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > Here are some meteorite stories: > Out here there have been two meteorites discovered fairly recently around the prairie town of Ellicott, where our son lives. There was an article in our local paper a couple of days ago about folks heading out that way with metal detectors, hoping to find more of them. Probably the best-known meteorite is the one that smacked the earth near Winslow, AZ. It carried the impact of a five-megaton bomb and dug itself a hole about a mile across and around 1,000 feet deep in the desert (it's filled in now to about 600 feet deep). It's privately owned and was used for astronaut training back in the 1960s because of its possible resemblance to the surface of the moon. It's also open to the public as a tourist attraction. An old Reader's Digest book on natural phenomena that we have described the meteorite that did the damage as "huge: about as big as an ocean liner." The Vredefort Ring in South Africa isn't a hole; it's a dome. But according to the same Reader's Digest article, it's probably the site of the impact of a small asteroid. Scientists think it was large enough to shake the earth in its orbit. That hunk of metal originally dug itself a crater ten miles down and 26 miles across, which has since domed up following the release of all that pressure. At least that's what the theory was back in the 1960s, when that article was written. More may be known now. Incidentally, that meteorite that smashed through the roof of that car in Peekskill, NY, came in to celebrate my 52nd birthday. What can we do as an encore for my 65th? :-} Doris in Colorado (Up2Nutrix@aol.com) "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." -- Jim Elliot, missionary and martyr

In a message dated 11/19/2002 6:57:09 AM Mountain Standard Time, NJ-MEMORIES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > Doris, > Your story's are never boring. > Just thought that the guys on the list might be going "ho hum" at the discussion of a feminine problem. Sorry, Jim . . . I should have included your name, too. Doris in Colorado (Up2Nutrix@aol.com) "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." -- Jim Elliot, missionary and martyr

In a message dated 11/19/2002 6:57:09 AM Mountain Standard Time, NJ-MEMORIES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > I hope I'm not the only one on the list looking at this rare event. speaking > of which...this post has no mistakes. > Would love to have watched it . . . but it was cloudy here last night. And my husband wouldn't have appreciated it if I'd set the alarm for 3 a.m. to see whether it had cleared off at the time when the display would be peaking. The reason that it improves after midnight is that the shower, called the "Leonids" after the constellation Leo the Lion, appears to sprout out from that constellation. Leo doesn't rise until around midnight at this time of year. You'll all have to wait until around February or March to see that large pussycat in the sky during waking hours, and by then the meteor shower will have long since gone. Doris in Colorado (Up2Nutrix@aol.com) "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." -- Jim Elliot, missionary and martyr

In a message dated 11/19/2002 6:57:09 AM Mountain Standard Time, NJ-MEMORIES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > Anyone out there know what they are, and why > we get them when were cold? I bet Doris knows. > Yup. Each of the hairs on our bodies has a little involuntary muscle attached to it; it's called a pilomotor muscle or a piloerector. What it does is to make the hair stand up instead of lying flat when it is working. Those muscles are activated by cold and also by adrenalin. In a low-temperature situation, erect hair (like the fluffed-up down in a winter jacket) traps more air than when it is flat, hence adding insulation capability. In a "fight-or-flight" situation, when our bodies release adrenalin, erect hair makes mammals look larger and hence scarier to enemies (what does your cat look like when he confronts a strange dog?). It also conserves body heat and hence energy, giving the possessor of that hair more reserves for either fighting or running away. The reason for the "goose bumps" is that the piloerector muscles are attached to the lower levels of the skin (that's where they get their leverage from); and when they contract, they pull in the skin around them, hence forcing the upper levels upward in the characteristic bump. That's why we speak of scary stories "giving us gooseflesh" or "making our hair stand on end." Doris in Colorado (Up2Nutrix@aol.com) "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." -- Jim Elliot, missionary and martyr

Time for the Leonid storms again, last one for a long time (2033 or longer for north america).  Last year was the best since 1966, and this year will be better than last year.  Better because more meteors will hit the earth, but maybe not better since last year we didn't have the moon and this year we do.  The moon will prevent you from seeing the dim ones. The Leonid shower is caused by the comet Tempel-Tuttle, which swings around the Sun every 33.2 years and leaves behind a trail of dust and debris. When Earth passes through this stream of material, the small bits -- most no larger than a grain of sand -- burn up in the atmosphere and create shooting stars. The comet is named after Ernst Tempel and Horace Tuttle, who spotted it in 1865 and 1866. The comet is about 2.5 miles in diameter.  As it approaches the sun (and goes around it once every 33 years), some of the ice melts and releases a trail of dust millions of miles long. This year, the peak will occur on Tuesday morning, Nov 19th, between 05:23am and 05:47am EST, with about 10 to 30 per minute (depending on your city lights).  You can still see some the day before and the day after, maybe a dozen per hour. Here is some more info: Forecast: http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2002/09oct_leonidsforecast.htm So every 33 years, there is a new trail created by the comet.  The most recent trail was created in 1998.  And each year, Earth has a chance of passing through one of these trails of dust.  This site shows the path of the Earth against each one of these trails that the comet makes every 33 years.  Click on one of the years to see the figure.  The blue line is Earth's path.  The colored ellipses are the trails.  You can see, for 2002, Earth will pass through the 1767 and 1866 trails.  North America will only be able to see the 1866 trail of debri hitting Earth: http://www.arm.ac.uk/leonid/dustexpl.html Here is a site for general space weather info: http://www.space.com/spacewatch/space_weather.html Here are some meteorite stories: On November 30, 1954, Alabama housewife Ann Hodges was taking a nap on her couch when she was awakened by a 3-pound (1.4-kilogram) meteor that crashed through the roof of her house, bounced off a piece of furniture and struck her in the hip, causing a large bruise. On October 9, 1992, a large fireball was seen streaking over the eastern United States, finally exploding into many pieces. In Peekskill, New York, one of the pieces struck a Chevrolet automobile owned by Michelle Knapp. Knapp was not in the car at the time, but heard the crash and ran out to her driveway to find a hole punched clear through the trunk of her car and a warm 26-pound (12-kilogram) meteorite lying under the vehicle. But things turned out well in the end -- her old and rather run-down automobile instantly became a collector’s item and later sold for tens of thousands of dollars. On June 21, 1994, Jose Martin of Spain was driving with his wife near Madrid when a 3-pound (1.4-kilogram) meteor crashed through his windshield, bent the steering wheel and ended up in the back seat. Martin suffered a broken finger while his wife was uninjured.