In a message dated 12/19/2002 6:07:19 AM Mountain Standard Time, NJ-MEMORIES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > Although I have always been aware of South Jersey and North Jersey, I never > wanted to be linked to East North Jersey! No way does beautiful Sussex > county have much in common with the east. I grew up in "East North Jersey," and we lived for four years in Sussex County as well. Given my choice, I'd take Sussex County any day. But I'm still glad to have grown up in Nutley when that town had the unique flavor it had in the 1950s. Doris in Colorado (Up2Nutrix@aol.com) "For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. -- Luke 2:11

In a message dated 12/19/2002 6:07:19 AM Mountain Standard Time, NJ-MEMORIES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > ALL THE MEMORIES IN THAT BLANKET..STARTED OUT WITH NEW JERSEY > MEMORIES...LIKE WE ALL DID. > Beautiful story, Lee! Thanx so much for sharing it with us . . . Doris in Colorado (Up2Nutrix@aol.com) "For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. -- Luke 2:11

In a message dated 12/18/2002 1:10:51 PM Mountain Standard Time, NJ-MEMORIES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > Doesn't the Mason-Dixon Line go through NJ? I heard a rumor it did. > It does. That's why there were "White" and "Colored" public drinking fountains in Cape May back in the 1950s, when I visited there. Doris in Colorado (Up2Nutrix@aol.com) "For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. -- Luke 2:11

Sorry, Doris but the Mason Dixon Line DOESN"T run through New Jersey. Read my post about it that I wrote this morning. Judy Up2Nutrix@aol.com wrote: >It does. That's why there were "White" and "Colored" public drinking >fountains in Cape May back in the 1950s, when I visited there. > >Doris in Colorado (Up2Nutrix@aol.com) >"For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is >Christ the Lord. -- Luke 2:11 > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

Norma and friends, The holly arboretum in Millville is a work in progress. At present the housing commission and the shade tree commission who are heading up the project are in the throes of acquiring the property in which to build the holly arboretum. Millville is really a dynamic city there is much going on in terms of cultural expansion. Focus is along the river front. So we are in the planning stages, already one grant has been received to help fund the project. Another interesting thing is that if any of y'all have been to Millville you'll notice the vast number of holly trees through out the city. These were all specific named cultivars planted by the late Clarence Wolfe, Dan Fenton and possibly one other gentle man, so I am told. With that in mind we are thinking about developing a historic walking trail through out the city ending at the holly arboretum. If any one out there on NJM wants more information, please contact me privately. As far as fruiting of holly is concerned, much depends on the weather conditions that affects pollination. It seems that weather also plays a very big part in development of the chemical compounds that affect the palatability of the fruit. The studies I mentioned in my previous post will make that clear. Carl ----- Original Message ----- From: "franor" <franor@atmc.net> To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 2:49 PM Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Re: Norma and recipes > Hi Carl, > Glad you are back to answer our questions, and jump in on our fun things. > Glad I asked about the Holly. Last year our two hollies had mega berries on > them and a flock of stray Grackels came and stripped them. This year they > have the berries and our birds don't seem to like them. So far Bennie has > not touched them. > Are you working on your new post with the Holly Assn. in Millville or is > that a summer project? > Love ya, > Norma > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carl Suk <csuk@kih.net> > To: franor <franor@atmc.net> > Cc: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 10:09 PM > Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Re: Norma and recipes > > > > Hi Norma, > > > > Glad to be back with all my NJM friends you oldies and you new comers too. > > As I told you in a private email, Norma, Holly berries are NOT POISONOUS, > at > > least to my knowledge and some of the research being funded by the Holly > > Society's Research Committee. While the Research Committee itself does not > > do active research about the many aspects of holly, it does fund > > professional researchers. One such project that is now in the review > stages > > for publication is on toxicity of holly. I have personally reviewed the > > scientific abstract but ethically can not make any comments on its content > > until it is published. There are many legends and folklore on the use of > > holly for medicinal purposes and of course Yerba Mate, a tea, from South > > America comes from a species of Holly and the black drink of our south > > eastern native Americans comes from Ilex vomitoria, the Yaupon Holly. > > Having eaten many holly berries on several occasions while the audience > gags > > in disgust during my many talks on holly, I can tell you this that they > are > > so unpalatable that no one would want to eat so many that it would kill. > > Birds on the other have a different digestive system but are smart enough > to > > know when the berries are more palatable. We see this in different > species > > and cultivars, some are devoured early while others are devoured very late > > in the winter. It may be a way of mother nature to provide an extended > > period of nourishment for the birds. Enough for our plant lesson of the > > day. Regardless just enjoy holly for it's beauty. Remember the Holly > > Society of America was founded in Millville, NJ; The Holly City USA, the > > headquarters of HSA and at one point literally thousands of pounds of > fresh > > cut holly was shipped from our beloved garden state. If you want to know > > more get on the Holly Societies' web page http://www.hollysocam.org/ > > > > > > Have a very Holly Jolly Christmas y'all, > > > > Carl > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "franor" <franor@atmc.net> > > To: "Carl Suk" <csuk@kih.net> > > Cc: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 7:59 AM > > Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Re: Norma and recipes > > > > > > > Hi Carl, > > > I am so glad you are back on Memories. You were missed. I thought sure > > you > > > would give us a receipe for soup using vension, we didn't like the > rabbit > > > cake. I brought in my Holly from the yard since you said it was safe > for > > my > > > Bennie. He eats anything that drops and I had always heard the berries > > were > > > poison. > > > Love ya, > > > Norma > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Carl Suk <csuk@kih.net> > > > To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 7:58 PM > > > Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Re: Norma and recipes > > > > > > > > > > Hi y'all, > > > > > > > > Summer Savory is Satureja hortensis an annual herb from the med. > Often > > > > seeds sold as Oregano turn out to be this or Sweet Marjorum. > > > > > > > > Been lurking around for a while but couldn't help butting in on this > > one. > > > > Y'all ought to sit back and read your all messages, it's hilarious. > > Love > > > > y'all and glad to be back. > > > > > > > > Carl > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: <Tacy413408@aol.com> > > > > To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 5:23 PM > > > > Subject: [NJ-Memories] Re: Norma and recipes > > > > > > > > > > > > > Norma, > > > > > > > > > > I like herbs and spices, but not hot spices. Just things that add > > good > > > > > flavor. > > > > > > > > > > A lot of the recipes my mom used were handed down. A couple of days > > ago > > > I > > > > > made vegetable soup with brisket in it. That comes from my > > > ggrandmother. > > > > My > > > > > husband likes his kind of soup with everything but the kitchen sink > in > > > it. > > > > I > > > > > like the plain veg and beef flavor. > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone remember the stoves with a soup well(?)? The pot fit > right > > > in > > > > a > > > > > hole in the stove instead of having the fourth burner. > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know what summer savory is? I think I knew at one time, > > but > > > > have > > > > > forgotten. My grandmother said you could put summer savory or > barley > > in > > > > to > > > > > make a more hearty soup. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > records, > > > > go to: > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Carl, Glad you are back to answer our questions, and jump in on our fun things. Glad I asked about the Holly. Last year our two hollies had mega berries on them and a flock of stray Grackels came and stripped them. This year they have the berries and our birds don't seem to like them. So far Bennie has not touched them. Are you working on your new post with the Holly Assn. in Millville or is that a summer project? Love ya, Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: Carl Suk <csuk@kih.net> To: franor <franor@atmc.net> Cc: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Re: Norma and recipes > Hi Norma, > > Glad to be back with all my NJM friends you oldies and you new comers too. > As I told you in a private email, Norma, Holly berries are NOT POISONOUS, at > least to my knowledge and some of the research being funded by the Holly > Society's Research Committee. While the Research Committee itself does not > do active research about the many aspects of holly, it does fund > professional researchers. One such project that is now in the review stages > for publication is on toxicity of holly. I have personally reviewed the > scientific abstract but ethically can not make any comments on its content > until it is published. There are many legends and folklore on the use of > holly for medicinal purposes and of course Yerba Mate, a tea, from South > America comes from a species of Holly and the black drink of our south > eastern native Americans comes from Ilex vomitoria, the Yaupon Holly. > Having eaten many holly berries on several occasions while the audience gags > in disgust during my many talks on holly, I can tell you this that they are > so unpalatable that no one would want to eat so many that it would kill. > Birds on the other have a different digestive system but are smart enough to > know when the berries are more palatable. We see this in different species > and cultivars, some are devoured early while others are devoured very late > in the winter. It may be a way of mother nature to provide an extended > period of nourishment for the birds. Enough for our plant lesson of the > day. Regardless just enjoy holly for it's beauty. Remember the Holly > Society of America was founded in Millville, NJ; The Holly City USA, the > headquarters of HSA and at one point literally thousands of pounds of fresh > cut holly was shipped from our beloved garden state. If you want to know > more get on the Holly Societies' web page http://www.hollysocam.org/ > > > Have a very Holly Jolly Christmas y'all, > > Carl > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "franor" <franor@atmc.net> > To: "Carl Suk" <csuk@kih.net> > Cc: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 7:59 AM > Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Re: Norma and recipes > > > > Hi Carl, > > I am so glad you are back on Memories. You were missed. I thought sure > you > > would give us a receipe for soup using vension, we didn't like the rabbit > > cake. I brought in my Holly from the yard since you said it was safe for > my > > Bennie. He eats anything that drops and I had always heard the berries > were > > poison. > > Love ya, > > Norma > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Carl Suk <csuk@kih.net> > > To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 7:58 PM > > Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Re: Norma and recipes > > > > > > > Hi y'all, > > > > > > Summer Savory is Satureja hortensis an annual herb from the med. Often > > > seeds sold as Oregano turn out to be this or Sweet Marjorum. > > > > > > Been lurking around for a while but couldn't help butting in on this > one. > > > Y'all ought to sit back and read your all messages, it's hilarious. > Love > > > y'all and glad to be back. > > > > > > Carl > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <Tacy413408@aol.com> > > > To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 5:23 PM > > > Subject: [NJ-Memories] Re: Norma and recipes > > > > > > > > > > Norma, > > > > > > > > I like herbs and spices, but not hot spices. Just things that add > good > > > > flavor. > > > > > > > > A lot of the recipes my mom used were handed down. A couple of days > ago > > I > > > > made vegetable soup with brisket in it. That comes from my > > ggrandmother. > > > My > > > > husband likes his kind of soup with everything but the kitchen sink in > > it. > > > I > > > > like the plain veg and beef flavor. > > > > > > > > Does anyone remember the stoves with a soup well(?)? The pot fit right > > in > > > a > > > > hole in the stove instead of having the fourth burner. > > > > > > > > Does anyone know what summer savory is? I think I knew at one time, > but > > > have > > > > forgotten. My grandmother said you could put summer savory or barley > in > > > to > > > > make a more hearty soup. > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > >

Marie, Sorry to hear that you lost a dear friend It always hurts when we loose someone we love. I know it's all part of life, but that doesn't stop us from hurting so badly when it happens. My prayers are with you, and her family. Diesel

No Lee, the Mason Dixon Line doesn't go through New Jersey although most of us grew up thinking it did. Since the early nineteenth century, the name Mason Dixon has represented an imaginary border between North & South: before the Civil War, it was thought to divide all free states from slave states. In fact, the Mason-Dixon Line was never more than the border between Maryland & Pennsylvania. In 1632 Maryland had been granted "that part of the Bay of Delaware which lieth under the Fortieth Degree of North Latitude." Unfortunately, the fortieth parallel ran through the middle of Philadelphia; if upheld, the Maryland charter would deprive Philadelphia of her only harbor. The two colonies argued the case in English courts for decades. By 1750 the boundary had been officially located on paper, but someone still had to find it in the woods. A survey team hired by Thomas Penn in 1761 spent several months trying to locate the border, but failed after letting a survey telescope warp in the rain. Penn was disgusted to find no Americans capable of the project and sent to England for some proper surveyors. He found Charles Mason and Jeremiah Dixon. These two men had traveled around the world studying astronomy and had mastered celestial navigation's complex mathematics. Both Maryland and Pennsylvania agreed to abide by the surveyors' results, and in 1763 Mason and Dixon began to work. The first step was to locate the exact starting point, 15 miles due south of Philadelphia. It was found in the middle of Mr. Alexander Bryan's plantation house, and an observation post was built in his front yard. From there the survey moved west following the line of latitude 39 degrees, 43 minutes and 17.6 seconds North. A wide swath was cleared by axemen, and limestone markers brought from England were placed each mile to mark the way. Every 11 1/2 miles the scientists would line up these posts through their telescopes and make elaborate measurements of star movement to compensate for error. All distances were measured with a 66 foot surveyor's chain. In 1766 Indian resistance forced the work to halt for a year, but negotiations allowed the surveyors to continue until, 30 miles east of Pennsylvania's present southwest corner, they were ordered to stop for good - 233 miles, 3 chains and 38 links from the starting post in Mr. Bryan's yard. Today more of the old stone markers are found in doorsteps than along the boundary, but the Mason-Dixon Line still exists. It was resurveyed in 1849 and 1902 and found to be remarkably accurate; with minor adjustments, it still serves as the Maryland-Pennsylvania border, while the Mason-Dixon Line of the popular imagination fades into the past. IF the line had gone eastward it would have cut across New Jersey. Sorry to be the bearer of this news! Judy greenflash60@pocketmail.com wrote: >Hi All, > No rumor...it's true >The Mason-Dixon line does go through South Jersey. >I,mnot sure what county or counties that would involve. > Maybe, Cumbeland co. Salem Co. >Cape May Co. >Ocean Co. Atlantic county. > If anyone knows, please enlighten us. >Lee > >------------------------------ >This mobile message sent using PocketMail. >Sign up for unlimited e-mail at www.PocketMail.com. > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

As I was growing up in the Atlantic City area, I, and my fellow classmates, were teased about being 'from the south'. According to what we were told, the line went from Trenton southeast to just above Egg Harbor - Brigantine area. I did research it many years ago, and it was close - much like the line of old East and West Jersey from colonial times. -----Original Message----- From: Robin M. Stinson [mailto:robinpaulstinson@mybluelight.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 6:11 PM To: NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Eagle's/ Creole So, does that mean the Mason Dixon line goes through NJ and if it does what part? Robin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kittie Ennis Lane" <kittdanl@frederickmd.com> To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Eagle's/ Creole > yes, Robin, portions of South NJ are below the MD line. > > Kittie in MD > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robin M. Stinson" <robinpaulstinson@mybluelight.com> > To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 11:38 PM > Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Eagle's/ Creole > > > > Doesn't the Mason-Dixon Line go through NJ? I heard a rumor it did. > > Robin > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "franor" <franor@atmc.net> > > To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 11:24 PM > > Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Eagle's/ Creole > > > > > > > Ok Judy we can divide up NJ into north and south. No way am I a > > Southerner, > > > my heart is in NJ in the North. Glad you're feeling better a concussion > > is > > > no fun. > > > Norma > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Judy Lamken <kilkee@attbi.com> > > > To: franor <franor@atmc.net> > > > Cc: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 5:59 PM > > > Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Eagle's/ Creole > > > > > > > > > > I meant northern and southern NJ!!! > > > > > > > > Judy > > > > > > > > franor wrote: > > > > > > > > >Judy, > > > > >I don't think these southerners root for the Eagle's, they are > Panthers > > > and > > > > >Falcons. You can't get much northern than the Phildelphia > > Eagle's....Go > > > > >Eagle's and they will. lol. > > > > >Norma > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > >From: Judy Lamken <kilkee@attbi.com> > > > > >To: franor <franor@atmc.net> > > > > >Cc: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 12:32 PM > > > > >Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Re: Creole > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Giants or Eagles must be a North or South thing! We northerners are > > > > >>Giants fans while you southerners root for the Eagles. > > > > >> > > > > >>Judy > > > > >> > > > > >>franor wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>Dot, > > > > >>>Well now that bears looking into. Maybe we wouldn't get what we > > wanted > > > > >>>after all. Hope Billy is not a Giant fan. Well as long as he's > not > > a > > > > >>>Redskin. lol. Go Eagle's. > > > > >>>Norma > > > > >>> > > > > >>>----- Original Message ----- > > > > >>>From: Dorothy Borne <dotbnj@earthlink.net> > > > > >>>To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > >>>Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 4:00 PM > > > > >>>Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Re: Creole > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>Norma, > > > > >>>> We have Direct TV but have a hard time getting the Giant games. > > We > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>have > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>to have an antenna to get it because Direct TV is not allowed to > > give > > > it > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>to > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>us. Something about being able to pick it up with antenna it is > > > against > > > > >>>>some law to get it from satellite. Just another gimmick. It was > > fine > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>until > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>9-11. They had to set it up somewhere else and that's when the > > > problem > > > > >>>>started. > > > > >>>>Dot > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>============================== > > > > >>>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > records, > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >go to: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >============================== > > > > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________ > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi All, No rumor...it's true The Mason-Dixon line does go through South Jersey. I,mnot sure what county or counties that would involve. Maybe, Cumbeland co. Salem Co. Cape May Co. Ocean Co. Atlantic county. If anyone knows, please enlighten us. Lee ------------------------------ This mobile message sent using PocketMail. Sign up for unlimited e-mail at www.PocketMail.com.

MARIE, I TOO WULD LIKE TO ADD MY CONDOLENCES. I'VE HA A HARD FEW WEEKS LIKE THAT TOOONE F MY BEST FRIENDS OF OVER 40 YEARS DIED...SHE HAD MAJOR EMPHESMA..PLUS THE HEART PROBLEMS THAT CREATES. BEING ON OXYGEN 24-7 SHE FELL BROKE HER HIP AND SOON SUCUMBED DUE TO HE INJURY AND VERY BAD HEALTH. SHE WAS FROM COLLINGSWOOD, N.J. ALSO, MY FAVORITE COUSIN MARIE...FROM MILLVILLE, NJ. BACK IN JUNE SHE FELL, GOT MEDI-VACED TO ATLANTIC CITY, FINALLY ENDING UP IN A NURSING HOME. LAST WEEK FELL..BRKE HER HIP.. HAD A HEART ATTACTWHILE UNDERGOING SURGERY. WILL MISS HER AND HER MINT PATCH OUTSIDE HER BACK DOOR....AND HER HOMEMADE PESTO. HOPE NO ONE ELSE HAS SAD NEWS T REPORT.HOPEFULLY, MY MOM.MY GRANDMOTHER, HER SON MET HER TO ESCORT HER OVER TO THE OTHER SIDE. MARIE WAS 93.WE WERE ALWAS GREAT BUDS. LEE-IN-THE-KEYS LEE-IN-THE-KEYS ------------------------------ This mobile message sent using PocketMail. Sign up for unlimited e-mail at www.PocketMail.com.

Hi Norma, Glad to be back with all my NJM friends you oldies and you new comers too. As I told you in a private email, Norma, Holly berries are NOT POISONOUS, at least to my knowledge and some of the research being funded by the Holly Society's Research Committee. While the Research Committee itself does not do active research about the many aspects of holly, it does fund professional researchers. One such project that is now in the review stages for publication is on toxicity of holly. I have personally reviewed the scientific abstract but ethically can not make any comments on its content until it is published. There are many legends and folklore on the use of holly for medicinal purposes and of course Yerba Mate, a tea, from South America comes from a species of Holly and the black drink of our south eastern native Americans comes from Ilex vomitoria, the Yaupon Holly. Having eaten many holly berries on several occasions while the audience gags in disgust during my many talks on holly, I can tell you this that they are so unpalatable that no one would want to eat so many that it would kill. Birds on the other have a different digestive system but are smart enough to know when the berries are more palatable. We see this in different species and cultivars, some are devoured early while others are devoured very late in the winter. It may be a way of mother nature to provide an extended period of nourishment for the birds. Enough for our plant lesson of the day. Regardless just enjoy holly for it's beauty. Remember the Holly Society of America was founded in Millville, NJ; The Holly City USA, the headquarters of HSA and at one point literally thousands of pounds of fresh cut holly was shipped from our beloved garden state. If you want to know more get on the Holly Societies' web page http://www.hollysocam.org/ Have a very Holly Jolly Christmas y'all, Carl ----- Original Message ----- From: "franor" <franor@atmc.net> To: "Carl Suk" <csuk@kih.net> Cc: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 7:59 AM Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Re: Norma and recipes > Hi Carl, > I am so glad you are back on Memories. You were missed. I thought sure you > would give us a receipe for soup using vension, we didn't like the rabbit > cake. I brought in my Holly from the yard since you said it was safe for my > Bennie. He eats anything that drops and I had always heard the berries were > poison. > Love ya, > Norma > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carl Suk <csuk@kih.net> > To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 7:58 PM > Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Re: Norma and recipes > > > > Hi y'all, > > > > Summer Savory is Satureja hortensis an annual herb from the med. Often > > seeds sold as Oregano turn out to be this or Sweet Marjorum. > > > > Been lurking around for a while but couldn't help butting in on this one. > > Y'all ought to sit back and read your all messages, it's hilarious. Love > > y'all and glad to be back. > > > > Carl > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Tacy413408@aol.com> > > To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 5:23 PM > > Subject: [NJ-Memories] Re: Norma and recipes > > > > > > > Norma, > > > > > > I like herbs and spices, but not hot spices. Just things that add good > > > flavor. > > > > > > A lot of the recipes my mom used were handed down. A couple of days ago > I > > > made vegetable soup with brisket in it. That comes from my > ggrandmother. > > My > > > husband likes his kind of soup with everything but the kitchen sink in > it. > > I > > > like the plain veg and beef flavor. > > > > > > Does anyone remember the stoves with a soup well(?)? The pot fit right > in > > a > > > hole in the stove instead of having the fourth burner. > > > > > > Does anyone know what summer savory is? I think I knew at one time, but > > have > > > forgotten. My grandmother said you could put summer savory or barley in > > to > > > make a more hearty soup. > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

Lee, so glad you got your afghan back. I have a bedspread my grandmother made in 1936. I treasure it as I am sure you do your mother's afghan. Dot ooo---This Email Scanned for Virus---ooo by ooo--- Norton Anti-Virus---ooo ----- Original Message ----- From: <greenflash60@pocketmail.com> To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 5:10 PM Subject: [NJ-Memories] TRUE STORY > ONCE UPON A TIME LEE,S AUNT GERT IN CHATHAM N.J. MADE ABOUT 17 AFGANS...THE KIND YOU PUT OVER YOU TO KEEP WARM. > THE FIRST NE SHE MADE WAS FOR MY MOM. SHE USED BROWN RATHER THAN BLACK.. IT WAS THE ONLY BROWN ONE. MANY CROCHETTED SQUARES,MANY COLORS. > I HAD ONE TO, BUT AFTER MANY YEARS IT GOT LOST. I USED TO WRAP MY BABIES UP IN THAT AND ROCK THEM TO SLEEP.. JUST LOKING AT THEIR LITTLE FACES WITH A FAINT BLUSH OF PINK ON THEIR CHEEKS..WATCHING THEM SLEEP AND DREAM. > I AVE MISSED MY AFGAN FOR YEARS. > WHEN WE WERE IN PHILLY IN JUNE I DISCOVERED MY MOTHERS AFGAN....I CRIED CAUSE IT WAS MOMS AND I HADN,T SEEN THAT FOR YEARS. > YESTERDAY A BOX CAME.IT WASMY MOTHER,S AFGAN... MOM HAS BEEN GONE FOR 16 YEARS NOW. > THE AFGAN STARTED N CHATHAM, WENT TO FORKED RIVER,THEN TO FLA. THEN BACK TO PHILLY AND NOW HOME TO ME IN FLA. > ALL THE MEMORIES IN THAT BLANKET..STARTED OUT WITH NEW JERSEY MEMORIES...LIKE WE ALL DID. > > LEE-IN-THE-KEYS > > ------------------------------ > This mobile message sent using PocketMail. > Sign up for unlimited e-mail at www.PocketMail.com. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

So, does that mean the Mason Dixon line goes through NJ and if it does what part? Robin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kittie Ennis Lane" <kittdanl@frederickmd.com> To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Eagle's/ Creole > yes, Robin, portions of South NJ are below the MD line. > > Kittie in MD > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robin M. Stinson" <robinpaulstinson@mybluelight.com> > To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 11:38 PM > Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Eagle's/ Creole > > > > Doesn't the Mason-Dixon Line go through NJ? I heard a rumor it did. > > Robin > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "franor" <franor@atmc.net> > > To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 11:24 PM > > Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Eagle's/ Creole > > > > > > > Ok Judy we can divide up NJ into north and south. No way am I a > > Southerner, > > > my heart is in NJ in the North. Glad you're feeling better a concussion > > is > > > no fun. > > > Norma > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Judy Lamken <kilkee@attbi.com> > > > To: franor <franor@atmc.net> > > > Cc: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 5:59 PM > > > Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Eagle's/ Creole > > > > > > > > > > I meant northern and southern NJ!!! > > > > > > > > Judy > > > > > > > > franor wrote: > > > > > > > > >Judy, > > > > >I don't think these southerners root for the Eagle's, they are > Panthers > > > and > > > > >Falcons. You can't get much northern than the Phildelphia > > Eagle's....Go > > > > >Eagle's and they will. lol. > > > > >Norma > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > >From: Judy Lamken <kilkee@attbi.com> > > > > >To: franor <franor@atmc.net> > > > > >Cc: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 12:32 PM > > > > >Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Re: Creole > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Giants or Eagles must be a North or South thing! We northerners are > > > > >>Giants fans while you southerners root for the Eagles. > > > > >> > > > > >>Judy > > > > >> > > > > >>franor wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>Dot, > > > > >>>Well now that bears looking into. Maybe we wouldn't get what we > > wanted > > > > >>>after all. Hope Billy is not a Giant fan. Well as long as he's > not > > a > > > > >>>Redskin. lol. Go Eagle's. > > > > >>>Norma > > > > >>> > > > > >>>----- Original Message ----- > > > > >>>From: Dorothy Borne <dotbnj@earthlink.net> > > > > >>>To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > >>>Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 4:00 PM > > > > >>>Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Re: Creole > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>Norma, > > > > >>>> We have Direct TV but have a hard time getting the Giant games. > > We > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>have > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>to have an antenna to get it because Direct TV is not allowed to > > give > > > it > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>to > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>us. Something about being able to pick it up with antenna it is > > > against > > > > >>>>some law to get it from satellite. Just another gimmick. It was > > fine > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>until > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>9-11. They had to set it up somewhere else and that's when the > > > problem > > > > >>>>started. > > > > >>>>Dot > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>============================== > > > > >>>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > records, > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >go to: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >============================== > > > > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________ > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Pat - thank you for your prayers re Marge's family - Marie G

Hi all, I guess my message about the newspaper article about the 2 NJs got lost. Although I have always been aware of South Jersey and North Jersey, I never wanted to be linked to East North Jersey! No way does beautiful Sussex county have much in common with the east. We always identified with the Poconos as our weather was the same. So I suppose there are 3 NJs. Kittie in MD ----- Original Message ----- From: "franor" <franor@atmc.net> To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Eagle's/ Creole > Ok Judy we can divide up NJ into north and south. No way am I a Southerner, > my heart is in NJ in the North. Glad you're feeling better a concussion is > no fun. > Norma > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Judy Lamken <kilkee@attbi.com> > To: franor <franor@atmc.net> > Cc: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 5:59 PM > Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Eagle's/ Creole > > > > I meant northern and southern NJ!!! > > > > Judy > > > > franor wrote: > > > > >Judy, > > >I don't think these southerners root for the Eagle's, they are Panthers > and > > >Falcons. You can't get much northern than the Phildelphia Eagle's....Go > > >Eagle's and they will. lol. > > >Norma > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: Judy Lamken <kilkee@attbi.com> > > >To: franor <franor@atmc.net> > > >Cc: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 12:32 PM > > >Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Re: Creole > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Giants or Eagles must be a North or South thing! We northerners are > > >>Giants fans while you southerners root for the Eagles. > > >> > > >>Judy > > >> > > >>franor wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>Dot, > > >>>Well now that bears looking into. Maybe we wouldn't get what we wanted > > >>>after all. Hope Billy is not a Giant fan. Well as long as he's not a > > >>>Redskin. lol. Go Eagle's. > > >>>Norma > > >>> > > >>>----- Original Message ----- > > >>>From: Dorothy Borne <dotbnj@earthlink.net> > > >>>To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > >>>Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 4:00 PM > > >>>Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Re: Creole > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>Norma, > > >>>> We have Direct TV but have a hard time getting the Giant games. We > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>have > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>to have an antenna to get it because Direct TV is not allowed to give > it > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>to > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>us. Something about being able to pick it up with antenna it is > against > > >>>>some law to get it from satellite. Just another gimmick. It was fine > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>until > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>9-11. They had to set it up somewhere else and that's when the > problem > > >>>>started. > > >>>>Dot > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>============================== > > >>>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > >>> > > >>> > > >go to: > > > > > > > > >>>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > >============================== > > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________

yes, Robin, portions of South NJ are below the MD line. Kittie in MD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin M. Stinson" <robinpaulstinson@mybluelight.com> To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 11:38 PM Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Eagle's/ Creole > Doesn't the Mason-Dixon Line go through NJ? I heard a rumor it did. > Robin > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "franor" <franor@atmc.net> > To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 11:24 PM > Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Eagle's/ Creole > > > > Ok Judy we can divide up NJ into north and south. No way am I a > Southerner, > > my heart is in NJ in the North. Glad you're feeling better a concussion > is > > no fun. > > Norma > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Judy Lamken <kilkee@attbi.com> > > To: franor <franor@atmc.net> > > Cc: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 5:59 PM > > Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Eagle's/ Creole > > > > > > > I meant northern and southern NJ!!! > > > > > > Judy > > > > > > franor wrote: > > > > > > >Judy, > > > >I don't think these southerners root for the Eagle's, they are Panthers > > and > > > >Falcons. You can't get much northern than the Phildelphia > Eagle's....Go > > > >Eagle's and they will. lol. > > > >Norma > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: Judy Lamken <kilkee@attbi.com> > > > >To: franor <franor@atmc.net> > > > >Cc: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 12:32 PM > > > >Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Re: Creole > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Giants or Eagles must be a North or South thing! We northerners are > > > >>Giants fans while you southerners root for the Eagles. > > > >> > > > >>Judy > > > >> > > > >>franor wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>Dot, > > > >>>Well now that bears looking into. Maybe we wouldn't get what we > wanted > > > >>>after all. Hope Billy is not a Giant fan. Well as long as he's not > a > > > >>>Redskin. lol. Go Eagle's. > > > >>>Norma > > > >>> > > > >>>----- Original Message ----- > > > >>>From: Dorothy Borne <dotbnj@earthlink.net> > > > >>>To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > > >>>Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 4:00 PM > > > >>>Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Re: Creole > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>>Norma, > > > >>>> We have Direct TV but have a hard time getting the Giant games. > We > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>have > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>>to have an antenna to get it because Direct TV is not allowed to > give > > it > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>to > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>>us. Something about being able to pick it up with antenna it is > > against > > > >>>>some law to get it from satellite. Just another gimmick. It was > fine > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>until > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>>9-11. They had to set it up somewhere else and that's when the > > problem > > > >>>>started. > > > >>>>Dot > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>============================== > > > >>>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >go to: > > > > > > > > > > > >>>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >============================== > > > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ______________________________

Now wait a gosh darn minute! I grew up in Northern NJ - East, Rutherfors and Montclair! When I was in high school my parents sold our summer home in Spring Lake and purchased one in Sussex County, Northern NJ - West because my father was tired of the shore commute each day. Both areas have their good points AND their bad! Overall Northern NJ was a wonderful place to grow up. Kittie Ennis Lane wrote: >Hi all, > >I guess my message about the newspaper article about the 2 NJs got lost. >Although I have always been aware of South Jersey and North Jersey, I never >wanted to be linked to East North Jersey! No way does beautiful Sussex >county have much in common with the east. We always identified with the >Poconos as our weather was the same. So I suppose there are 3 NJs. > >Kittie in MD > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "franor" <franor@atmc.net> >To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 11:24 PM >Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Eagle's/ Creole > > > > >>Ok Judy we can divide up NJ into north and south. No way am I a >> >> >Southerner, > > >>my heart is in NJ in the North. Glad you're feeling better a concussion >> >> >is > > >>no fun. >>Norma >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: Judy Lamken <kilkee@attbi.com> >>To: franor <franor@atmc.net> >>Cc: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 5:59 PM >>Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Eagle's/ Creole >> >> >> >> >>>I meant northern and southern NJ!!! >>> >>>Judy >>> >>>franor wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Judy, >>>>I don't think these southerners root for the Eagle's, they are Panthers >>>> >>>> >>and >> >> >>>>Falcons. You can't get much northern than the Phildelphia >>>> >>>> >Eagle's....Go > > >>>>Eagle's and they will. lol. >>>>Norma >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: Judy Lamken <kilkee@attbi.com> >>>>To: franor <franor@atmc.net> >>>>Cc: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 12:32 PM >>>>Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Re: Creole >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Giants or Eagles must be a North or South thing! We northerners are >>>>>Giants fans while you southerners root for the Eagles. >>>>> >>>>>Judy >>>>> >>>>>franor wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Dot, >>>>>>Well now that bears looking into. Maybe we wouldn't get what we >>>>>> >>>>>> >wanted > > >>>>>>after all. Hope Billy is not a Giant fan. Well as long as he's not >>>>>> >>>>>> >a > > >>>>>>Redskin. lol. Go Eagle's. >>>>>>Norma >>>>>> >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>From: Dorothy Borne <dotbnj@earthlink.net> >>>>>>To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 4:00 PM >>>>>>Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Re: Creole >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Norma, >>>>>>> We have Direct TV but have a hard time getting the Giant games. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >We > > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>have >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>to have an antenna to get it because Direct TV is not allowed to >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >give > > >>it >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>to >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>us. Something about being able to pick it up with antenna it is >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>against >> >> >>>>>>>some law to get it from satellite. Just another gimmick. It was >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >fine > > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>until >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>9-11. They had to set it up somewhere else and that's when the >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>problem >> >> >>>>>>>started. >>>>>>>Dot >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>============================== >>>>>>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >>>>>> >>>>>> >>records, >> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>go to: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>============================== >>>>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >>>> >>>> >records, > > >>go to: >> >> >>>>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>______________________________ >> >> > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

ONCE UPON A TIME LEE,S AUNT GERT IN CHATHAM N.J. MADE ABOUT 17 AFGANS...THE KIND YOU PUT OVER YOU TO KEEP WARM. THE FIRST NE SHE MADE WAS FOR MY MOM. SHE USED BROWN RATHER THAN BLACK.. IT WAS THE ONLY BROWN ONE. MANY CROCHETTED SQUARES,MANY COLORS. I HAD ONE TO, BUT AFTER MANY YEARS IT GOT LOST. I USED TO WRAP MY BABIES UP IN THAT AND ROCK THEM TO SLEEP.. JUST LOKING AT THEIR LITTLE FACES WITH A FAINT BLUSH OF PINK ON THEIR CHEEKS..WATCHING THEM SLEEP AND DREAM. I AVE MISSED MY AFGAN FOR YEARS. WHEN WE WERE IN PHILLY IN JUNE I DISCOVERED MY MOTHERS AFGAN....I CRIED CAUSE IT WAS MOMS AND I HADN,T SEEN THAT FOR YEARS. YESTERDAY A BOX CAME.IT WASMY MOTHER,S AFGAN... MOM HAS BEEN GONE FOR 16 YEARS NOW. THE AFGAN STARTED N CHATHAM, WENT TO FORKED RIVER,THEN TO FLA. THEN BACK TO PHILLY AND NOW HOME TO ME IN FLA. ALL THE MEMORIES IN THAT BLANKET..STARTED OUT WITH NEW JERSEY MEMORIES...LIKE WE ALL DID. LEE-IN-THE-KEYS ------------------------------ This mobile message sent using PocketMail. Sign up for unlimited e-mail at www.PocketMail.com.

Walt proposed Christmas 1949 and we were married May 27, 1950. Betty > > From: "Robin M. Stinson" <robinpaulstinson@mybluelight.com> > Date: 2002/12/18 Wed AM 12:13:01 GMT+01:00 > To: > Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Re: Chenile Robes > > Hi, > January 19 Paul and I will be married 18yrs. The Lord has been good. > Robin > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "franor" <franor@atmc.net> > To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 5:48 PM > Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Re: Chenile Robes > > > > Dot, > > Congratulations! > > Thats great!!! wonder who else has been married over 50 yrs.? Yes, some > or > > long and some are short, but we're still here. 58 coming up. > > Norma. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Dorothy Borne <dotbnj@earthlink.net> > > To: franor <franor@atmc.net>; <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 3:02 PM > > Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Re: Chenile Robes > > > > > > > Same here. 54 years in November. Some of them very long and others > very > > > short. > > > Dot > > > ooo---This Email Scanned for Virus---ooo > > > by > > > ooo--- Norton Anti-Virus---ooo > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "franor" <franor@atmc.net> > > > To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 9:11 AM > > > Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Re: Chenile Robes > > > > > > > > > > Grandma Betty, > > > > That was a nice story. I had the shingles a few years ago and > couldn't > > > put > > > > on anything that touched my back, had to wear Franks shirts. > > > > We have been married 57 yrs in Sept, got you beat. Ah!! the same > man, > > > how > > > > nice for us. > > > > Grammy Norma > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: betty <grandma.dilley@verizon.net> > > > > To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 3:38 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Re: Chenile Robes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chenille Robes, really brings back a good memory. It was Christmas > > > 1949, > > > > I was ill and the medication gave me the hives,Dr. said to put some > > thing > > > on > > > > it that was very greasy. > > > > > After I spread it all over my Mother said to come out and watch TV, > so > > I > > > > put on my pale blue Chenille Robe, and my boy friend came in the > front > > > > door, got down on his knees and proposed to me and put a beautiful > > diamond > > > > on my finger. > > > > > He must have loved me a lot the way I looked. That was 53 years ago. > > > > > Betty > > > > > > > > > > > From: Tacy413408@aol.com > > > > > > Date: 2002/12/17 Tue AM 12:16:37 GMT+01:00 > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [NJ-Memories] Re: Chenile Robes > > > > > > > > > > > > Marie, > > > > > > > > > > > > Didn't all girls wear chenile robes when we were all growing up? > > > Funny > > > > that > > > > > > you mentioned that, as I was thinking about that the other day. > > > > > > > > > > > > Pat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > > records, go to: > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > records, > > > > go to: > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >