Betty, sorryto hear about your re-occuring problem. I hope you will finaly beat it. I willbe praying fr you. hope you do have a good Christmas. Lee-in-the-keys ------------------------------ This mobile message sent using PocketMail. Sign up for unlimited e-mail at www.PocketMail.com.

In a message dated 12/21/2002 9:02:00 AM Mountain Standard Time, NJ-MEMORIES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > When my son was born in 1948 there was a family from Mississippi who lived > next door. On the way here they stopped in the Newark Train station and > her > little boy (about 5) had to go to the bathroom. When he got inside he saw > a > black boy in there and promptly told him to get out and go to the black > bathroom. > I remember a really heart-warming story from the Reader's Digest that took place somewhere in the Deep South, right after the Little League down there was integrated. The local businesses, though, weren't. As the story went, two white kids and a black one had just left Little League practice together and decided to head for the local drugstore for a soda. When the three boys sat down at the counter, the soda jerk came up to them and told the kids that they couldn't stay if the black kid stayed with them. "Don't you know that this store is segregated?" he asked them. "Oh, that's no problem," said one of the white boys. "We have him segregated. He's sitting between us." It's a shame that we don't have kids like that solving our problems for us . . . Doris in Colorado (Up2Nutrix@aol.com) "For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. -- Luke 2:11

In a message dated 12/21/2002 9:02:00 AM Mountain Standard Time, NJ-MEMORIES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > Went to the Dr. yesterday to see what the cat scan showed. > The darn cancer is back for the 6th time in my pancreas. Sounds as if you could use prayer, Betty. Well, you have it . . . Doris in Colorado (Up2Nutrix@aol.com) "For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. -- Luke 2:11

In a message dated 12/21/2002 9:02:00 AM Mountain Standard Time, NJ-MEMORIES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > I can remember getting up in the morning and dressing over the floor vent > where it was warm. I'd drape my clothes over the radiator in my bedroom until they were warm, and then I'd put them on. Doris in Colorado (Up2Nutrix@aol.com) "For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. -- Luke 2:11

Hi again, How is this message? Any difference, same etc. Robin

I don't know who wrote this but it is interesting to say the least. Dot -------------------------------------------- Twelve Days of Christmas There is one Christmas Carol that has always baffled me. What in the world do leaping lords, French hens, swimming swans, and especially the partridge who won't come out of the pear tree have to do with Christmas? Today I found out, thanks to the Internet. >From 1558 until 1829, Roman Catholics in England were not permitted to practice their faith openly. Someone during that era wrote this carol as a catechism song for young Catholics. It has two levels of meaning: the surface meaning plus a hidden meaning known only to members of their church. Each element in the carol has a code word for a religious reality which the children could remember. The partridge in a pear tree was Jesus Christ. Two turtle doves were the Old and New Testaments. Three French hens stood for faith, hope and love. The four calling birds were the four gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke & John. The five golden rings recalled the Torah or Law, the first five books of the Old Testament. The six geese a-laying stood for the six days of creation. Seven swans a-swimming represented the sevenfold gifts of the Holy Spirit: Prophesy, Serving, Teaching, Exhortation, Contribution, Leadership, and Mercy. The eight maids a-milking were the eight beatitudes. Nine ladies dancing were the nine fruits of the Holy Spirit: Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Goodness, Faithfulness, Gentleness, and Self Control. The ten lords a-leaping were the ten commandments. The eleven pipers piping stood for the eleven faithful disciples. The twelve drummers drumming symbolized the twelve points of belief in the Apostles' Creed. So there is your history for today. This knowledge was shared with me and I found it interesting and enlightening and now I know how that strange song became a Christmas Carol...so pass it on if you wish. My gift to you.....Have a blessed Christmas!!!!! ooo---This Email Scanned for Virus---ooo by ooo--- Norton Anti-Virus---ooo

Judy, My second experience was in Goldsboro, NC. While visiting a cousin we went to the movies. The black people didn't make eyecontact and moved off the sidewalk to let you walk by. I couldn't understand why adults would get off the sidewalk to let young people walk by and being polite was trying to move out of their way. It was like culture shock. Pat

Hi, Back around 1980 I went to Akron, OH with my grandmother and stayed at this little hotel that had a coffee shop hooked on to it. When we checked in the lady at the desk told us that Gary ????(he played a blond haired guy who loved Lonnie Anderson on WKRP in Cinn.). I cannot remember his name. In person he was not good-looking. And her was short. Well we checked in and went to bed. That morning we went to that coffee shop for breakfast and sat on one of the bar stools waiting for our food. Just then a blonde haired man sat right beside me. It was not the guy from WKRP TV show but it was Allan Sues from Laugh-Inn. I did not recognize him at first. I just started talking to him like he was some average person. A couple of minuets later the waitress asked me if I knew who that was. Then she told me. When she told me I was afraid to say anything else. I didn't want to bug him. I didn't even ask him for his autograph. Now I could shoot myself for not getting his autograph. Well that's about it. Love, Robin ----- Original Message ----- From: <PalmaG72@aol.com> To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 5:57 PM Subject: [NJ-Memories] New Subject > I was listening to a talk show this morning - the subject was What Famous > Person did you Meet and was this person not very nice to you - Yes - I wanted > to shout - I did and an awful experience - he was not my dream man from that > day on - > Gordon MacRae the singer - he used to have a Saturday morning show on the > radio for Teens - listened to him always - > Yard's Dept Store in Trenton had a Girl's Teen Clothing Shop in their store - > so they sponsored him coming to Trenton and doing a Stage Performance at the > Lincoln Theatre - I got tickets for me and my friend Vivian - we went and > then he announce he was going to give autographed Pictures on the stage and > the exit was through the stage - by then one could not leave the way we came > in it was a real stampede - when I got to the stage I tripped on the > microphone wire that ran across the stage floor - right on top of him I fell > - and what words came out of his mouth - I was a clumsy Blankety Blankety ( > God's Name) B--ch ---------Never again would I turn his program on -I did see > his movies later in the 1950's for I did love Doris Day who starred with him > ------------So anyone else have any experiences - Marie G > ' > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I was listening to a talk show this morning - the subject was What Famous Person did you Meet and was this person not very nice to you - Yes - I wanted to shout - I did and an awful experience - he was not my dream man from that day on - Gordon MacRae the singer - he used to have a Saturday morning show on the radio for Teens - listened to him always - Yard's Dept Store in Trenton had a Girl's Teen Clothing Shop in their store - so they sponsored him coming to Trenton and doing a Stage Performance at the Lincoln Theatre - I got tickets for me and my friend Vivian - we went and then he announce he was going to give autographed Pictures on the stage and the exit was through the stage - by then one could not leave the way we came in it was a real stampede - when I got to the stage I tripped on the microphone wire that ran across the stage floor - right on top of him I fell - and what words came out of his mouth - I was a clumsy Blankety Blankety ( God's Name) B--ch ---------Never again would I turn his program on -I did see his movies later in the 1950's for I did love Doris Day who starred with him ------------So anyone else have any experiences - Marie G '

I am very sorry to hear the news of cancer returning - I will be praying that this is not as bad as it sounds but when you are retested it will be gone - Marie G

I just found someone on a small web-site concerning Pennsville, Nj that used to live in Pennsgrove, NJ. Her email message she sent through this site said she moved to Maggie Valley, NC. Well since I now live in Charlotte, NC her message caught my eye. I did not even know her. She seems really nice. I told her about our site here on MEMORIES. I told her she was welcomed to join us. I hope she does. Her name is Carol Ward. When or if she joins lets give her a hearty NJ welcome. Talk Later, Love, Robin

Who knows. Even when it was a colloquial use of "the line" it separated the northern and southern states not part of a state! Judy Up2Nutrix@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 12/20/2002 2:02:00 PM Mountain Standard Time, >NJ-MEMORIES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > > >>It was a >>disappointment that after MANY years of telling people that part of NJ >>was below the Mason-Dixon Line that that it was not true. >> >> > >My next question, though, would be . . . how come the segregated facilities >in Cape May County? Apparently those guys thought that they were below the >Line . . . > >Doris in Colorado (Up2Nutrix@aol.com) >"For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is >Christ the Lord. -- Luke 2:11 > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

Pat, I too experienced that segregation but in Baltimore. We had relatives that had moved there and we went to visit them.. I went to Woolworths with my cousins and saw some teenagers being turned away. When I asked my cousins about it they were shocked to learn that blacks and whites could eat in the same area and use the same water fountains and bathrooms. I was just as shocked as they were but at the injustice of it all. I know what you mean about it making a lasting impression. Judy Tacy413408@aol.com wrote: >Doris, > >Perhaps if the area was close to the line they practiced the same viewpoint. > >I remember being in southern Pa in the '50's and seeing a couple from NY >being denied service and they were above the Mason Dixon line. The waitress >asked them if they had reservations to eat and I asked my grandparents how >come we didn't have to have reservations. I was young and didn't know about >segregation. My grandmother told me to be quiet and mind my own business. I >thought it was sad to see the couple leave with the poor woman in tears. >Cruel and made a lasting impression on me. > >Pat > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

Diesel, That coal furnace was kind of scary, but that was how we mailed our letters to Santa. LOL My mother would take us down there and we would throw the letters into the furnace. It was the magical mail delivery for the northpole. How she ever came up with that one i will never know. Pat

Doris, Perhaps if the area was close to the line they practiced the same viewpoint. I remember being in southern Pa in the '50's and seeing a couple from NY being denied service and they were above the Mason Dixon line. The waitress asked them if they had reservations to eat and I asked my grandparents how come we didn't have to have reservations. I was young and didn't know about segregation. My grandmother told me to be quiet and mind my own business. I thought it was sad to see the couple leave with the poor woman in tears. Cruel and made a lasting impression on me. Pat

Diesel and Doris, Our story also had a Richard in it and here is the short story version. I was dating a guy named Richard and he introduced me to his new friend on the base in N.C. He asked me if I could get his friend, who was new on the base, a date. So over the next few weeks I fixed his friend up with dates and we double dated. When Richard went on a tour for a month he asked his friend to keep in touch with me and take me out to eat or to the movies. He didn't want me to sit at home. His friend did and we were just friends, nothing else. Months later when Richard and I were no longer dating his friend called up and finding Richard was no longer in the picture asked me out. We dated about a year and married in Aug 1965. Our kids love the story and the fact that I used to set their father up on blind dates. LOL Pat

Walt lived across the street from my cousin Ed when I was about 9 or 10 years old, when ever I went to my cousins house I would make it a point to say "Hi Walt" he would blush and go home. In 1946 my Mom had to have a TV and she would invite my Aunt and Uncle over to watch and naturally they would bring Their kids and Walt along with them. By this time I was very busy dating other fellows so I wasn't always home on week ends and this is when they were coming over. Then Ed and Walt started coming over during the week and I was home, Walt always managed to sit near me either on the couch or on the floor at my feet. One evening we were sitting on the couch he put a pillow over my hand and slipped his hand under the pillow and held my hand the whole evening. When I went into the kitchen to help get snacks for everyone Mom said he thinks no one knows he is holding your hand and we had a good laugh about it. This went on for about 6 weeks and he hadn't asked my out everyone was wo! ndering what was going on. (I was still dating other guys) Finaley he asked me out, I was going to say "I'll let you know later in the week" but thought better of it as I thought he was so shy that he would not ask again, so I said OK and we went to the Flemington movies, that was the place to go back then, From then on it was Walt and now it is 52 years later and he is my best friend plus husband. > From: Up2Nutrix@aol.com > Date: 2002/12/21 Sat AM 06:52:30 GMT+01:00 > To: NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NJ-Memories] Re: How We Met > > In a message dated 12/20/2002 2:02:00 PM Mountain Standard Time, > NJ-MEMORIES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > > Did I miss something. Did you tell us your, How We Met story yet? > > No, I didn't; I was waiting to see whether there was any interest before I > took the time to type it out. It looks as if there is, so here goes . . . > > The short answer is: > > He picked me up in a Laundromat. > > Now, here's (as Paul Harvey puts it) the Rest of the Story: > > It was July, 1963, and I'd moved into New York City about seven months > earlier so that I could be close to my job. My roommate had gotten me > involved in a ministry that she did on Saturdays: working with a bunch of > slum kids in a West-Side neighborhood. Several young men from Columbia > University also were in this ministry, and I got quite friendly with one of > them. Early in the month he invited me to go with him to his church for a > Sunday-evening meeting later on that month. I told him that I'd go -- and > then blithely went off on a two-week vacation in North Carolina. The Sunday > meeting was to be two days after I got back. > > I landed at Newark Airport on Friday evening in the middle of a ripping > thunderstorm and got back to my apartment around ten p.m. -- and that was > when I found out that my friend Richard from Columbia was stuck in a hospital > in New Hampshire. He'd gone there for a weekend visit with a college friend > and had broken his leg badly when a horse he was riding stumbled and fell. At > first I figured that my date was off, but then it dawned on me that Richard > would expect me to go anyway and let him know how the college-group meeting > after the service went -- they were having a speaker from Teen Challenge. So > I did just that. I arrived at the church about fifteen minutes early and > didn't want to go inside just yet, so I stood outside looking into the window > of the bookstore that was connected with the church. A young man whom I knew > slightly and who was going to that church stopped and said hi to me. The > person whom I really noticed was the fellow who was with him. I knew his > face, but I couldn't say from where. I didn't know whether he'd gone to my > church at some time, whether he'd gone to some Christian meetings that I'd > been at, or whether he merely resembled someone I'd known. It was driving me > crazy. This young guy happened to be ushering that evening, and all through > the service I kept turning and looking at him to try to figure out where I > knew him from. Little did I know that he was doing the same thing with me, > since our eyes never connected. > > The following evening after getting home from work, I picked up the two large > laundry bags that I had totally full from that two-week vacation and lugged > them down to the Laundromat around the corner to get them washed. I was so > short of clean clothing that I was wearing the same pink-and-white seersucker > shirtwaist dress that I'd worn the night before at church. Well, when I > walked into the Laundromat, there, leaning against a dryer, was the > familiar-faced usher! Now I knew why his face was familiar -- we shopped at > the same supermarket, rode the same subway, and washed our clothes at the > same place, too. It just took a couple of smiles to break the ice -- and it > turned out that he was looking for a new apartment, since he wanted to move > out of the building where he was. I told him about the place next door to me, > which was up for rent. It also turned out that we both enjoyed outdoor stuff > like camping and hiking. A week or so later he telephoned me to tell me that > he was interested in looking at the apartment and also that he'd like to take > me out that Saturday. I had to turn him down; I was in a friend's wedding > that day. Two weeks later he tried again -- and it was again for a Saturday > when I was tied up socially. I was afraid that the guy would think that I was > trying to brush him off, so I suggested the following week. It worked! We > hiked around Central Park and took a boat ride and had a Bible study together > -- and after a little over a year more of those hiking dates, we got engaged. > We got married in July of 1965, just about two years after the evening in the > Laundromat. And we're still very happily married! > > P. S. Great story, Diesel! And a bit of interest -- both your story and mine > had a Richard in it who missed out . . . > > Doris in Colorado (Up2Nutrix@aol.com) > "For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is > Christ the Lord. -- Luke 2:11 > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Betty, So sorry to hear that news. Hopefully they can do something again. Faith and positive thinking go a long way. Dot ooo---This Email Scanned for Virus---ooo by ooo--- Norton Anti-Virus---ooo ----- Original Message ----- From: "betty" <grandma.dilley@verizon.net> To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 2:38 AM Subject: [NJ-Memories] Re: Cat scan > Hi All, > > Went to the Dr. yesterday to see what the cat scan showed. > The darn cancer is back for the 6th time in my pancreas. (had piece removed 6 years ago & chemo 5 times) Dr. said that he doesn't know how much more the old body can take and he isn't sure at this time just what he will recommend. I will know on the 3rd of Jan. 2003. I am still alive and kicking and feeling very good. > > Betty in New Jersey > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

When my son was born in 1948 there was a family from Mississippi who lived next door. On the way here they stopped in the Newark Train station and her little boy (about 5) had to go to the bathroom. When he got inside he saw a black boy in there and promptly told him to get out and go to the black bathroom. Dot ooo---This Email Scanned for Virus---ooo by ooo--- Norton Anti-Virus---ooo ----- Original Message ----- From: <Up2Nutrix@aol.com> To: <NJ-MEMORIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 12:54 AM Subject: [NJ-Memories] Re: Mason-Dixon Line > In a message dated 12/20/2002 2:02:00 PM Mountain Standard Time, > NJ-MEMORIES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > > It was a > > disappointment that after MANY years of telling people that part of NJ > > was below the Mason-Dixon Line that that it was not true. > > My next question, though, would be . . . how come the segregated facilities > in Cape May County? Apparently those guys thought that they were below the > Line . . . > > Doris in Colorado (Up2Nutrix@aol.com) > "For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is > Christ the Lord. -- Luke 2:11 > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi All, Went to the Dr. yesterday to see what the cat scan showed. The darn cancer is back for the 6th time in my pancreas. (had piece removed 6 years ago & chemo 5 times) Dr. said that he doesn't know how much more the old body can take and he isn't sure at this time just what he will recommend. I will know on the 3rd of Jan. 2003. I am still alive and kicking and feeling very good. Betty in New Jersey