Hi Jerlyn, I looked in my Salem County Cook Book and another area cookbook and nothing. I went on the internet and found out what it was. Here it is: http://southernfood.about.com/od/fritters/r/bln232.htm<http://southernfood.about.com/od/fritters/r/bln232.htm> I thought that is what it was. Love, Robin ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas Henderson<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Food! Anyone know what corn oysters are?A favorite southern Jersey dish. Jerilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Food! > > In a message dated 11/8/2004 3:30:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> writes: > > My good old Irish grandparents influence on me. Love it. > > > > > Hey Gang!!! > > I am German and we had exactly the same food. > > My daughter moved to OH recently and I when I visited this last time I > was > "ordered" to bring a whole Taylor Pork Roll. > > Ann > > > AVP > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx> > > ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx>

In a message dated 11/8/2004 4:41:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, AnnWicki writes: Hey Gang!!! I am German and we had exactly the same food. My daughter moved to OH recently and I when I visited this last time I was "ordered" to bring a whole Taylor Pork Roll. Ann ====================================== Boy, all it takes is the mention of food to get this list moving. Notice that? How about Italian hot dogs? Dot

Anyone know what corn oysters are?A favorite southern Jersey dish. Jerilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Food! > > In a message dated 11/8/2004 3:30:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > My good old Irish grandparents influence on me. Love it. > > > > > Hey Gang!!! > > I am German and we had exactly the same food. > > My daughter moved to OH recently and I when I visited this last time I > was > "ordered" to bring a whole Taylor Pork Roll. > > Ann > > > AVP > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

In a message dated 11/8/2004 3:30:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: My good old Irish grandparents influence on me. Love it. Hey Gang!!! I am German and we had exactly the same food. My daughter moved to OH recently and I when I visited this last time I was "ordered" to bring a whole Taylor Pork Roll. Ann AVP

Since Linda's "new blood" got us started on our favorite topic...food,I will mention my husband and I are dining with friend's to night to celebrate his birthday. Anyone remember the Pub at Airport Circle in Camden? Their Caesar Salad bar and steaks are as yummy as ever.Don't drool. I do appreciate that I can get a cheesesteak,or a Taylor Pork Roll on a wonderful roll any day I have a hankering for one.Come visit,and I will treat.Please do not take this as bragging,I truly know I am blessed to still live in this culinarily[?]abundant area. Jerilyn

In a message dated 11/8/2004 12:22:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: You mentioned Taylor ham. Is that the infamous Taylor pork roll? Yum! ----------------------- Now you are on my subject. Everybody on the list knows pork roll and egg on a hard roll which you cannot find in Florida. :( You also mentioned recipes. It's hard to tell what's unique to the area and what food is just handed down through families. Some of the food from my childhood may have even come from England with my great grandparents. I've always loved what our family called "Christmas potatoes", which was half mashed potatoes and half mashed rutabagas. ===================================== My friend always made hers that way also. I just have mashed potatoes and turnips but make enough for leftovers. Then I mix lightly and make cakes and fry in butter until brown. My favorite leftover from Christmas dinner. I had a heck of a time finding rutabagas here in the south when I first got here, but I've noticed that changing some in the past few years. =========================== They have always had them in Florida but what we called turnips in Jersey are rutabagas here and vice versa. Strange. I also have fond memories of ham and cabbage, which was ham, cabbage and potatoes, basically combined and stewed together. ========================= My good old Irish grandparents influence on me. Love it. Dot

Linda,I forgot to mention before that our two eldest sons were baptized by Rev.John Ewing in Salem Methodist Church in Pleasantville in the '60's before he became pastor of Central Methodist in Linwood.Dan was done in 1966,and Douglas in 1968. Jerilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Vible" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 12:24 PM Subject: [NJ-Memories] Pleasantville > Hi, Ginny. > > It seems we have been in the same places. How long ago did you live in > Pleasantville? Do you remember the Home Plate Restaurant? That would be > going back about 35 years. My mother had a friend who lived in > Pleasantville, and as a child, we used to go crabbing in the bay. I think > it was at the end of Oakland Avenue. In fact, my parents lived in > Pleasantville when I was born. They lived on Park Avenue behind the Fire > Department. > > Pleasantville has really become run down. It's too bad. I think the > casinos have a lot to do with it. A lot of people are commuting to work > from further away, like Mays Landing. > > Have you been back to the area recently? > > Linda > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ginnie Carey" <[email protected]> > To: "Linda Vible" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 11:15 AM > Subject: RE: [NJ-Memories] Introduction: New to Group > > > Linda, > > I must introduce myself, since it seems we have walked the same walk and > been to the same places. I am Virginia (Ginnie) Van Kirk Carey. I too was > born in Shore Memorial Hospital. I lived in Pleasantville, Absecon and > Northfield, and graduated P'ville High School. > I left the area for a few years - to Burlington Co with my father. I > returned to the AC area in 1979, worked awhile for the Police Dept, then > for > Resorts and Tropicana. I lived in Ocean City. I was there for the blizzard > of '83, and the flood in OC in May (lost my car.) After that, I had had > enough and moved to Florida in August. I would love to compare notes on > the > area with you. > > Ginnie in Fla > > > > ============================== > Expand your family tree. Search more than 200 million names in > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Welcome back,Carl! Jerilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Suk" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 6:27 PM Subject: [NJ-Memories] Kentucky's still here > Hi Y'all, > > Everybody is asking where is Carl????? Well I'm still here as always > lurking > in the back ground and just doing what I do normally eat, work and sleep > mostly the middle. Y'all know it's my busy season and am I ever looking > forward to the winter lay off as it has been a very busy and hectic year. > I'll be more active come winter I promise. > > Some of you know I had to put ole Nanook down on July 1 my companion of 18 > years. Any way that's about it from the lakes of Kentucky. > > Linda welcome aboard, hope to here more about you and your memories of NJ > > Carl > > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Hi, Ginny. It seems we have been in the same places. How long ago did you live in Pleasantville? Do you remember the Home Plate Restaurant? That would be going back about 35 years. My mother had a friend who lived in Pleasantville, and as a child, we used to go crabbing in the bay. I think it was at the end of Oakland Avenue. In fact, my parents lived in Pleasantville when I was born. They lived on Park Avenue behind the Fire Department. Pleasantville has really become run down. It's too bad. I think the casinos have a lot to do with it. A lot of people are commuting to work from further away, like Mays Landing. Have you been back to the area recently? Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ginnie Carey" <[email protected]> To: "Linda Vible" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 11:15 AM Subject: RE: [NJ-Memories] Introduction: New to Group Linda, I must introduce myself, since it seems we have walked the same walk and been to the same places. I am Virginia (Ginnie) Van Kirk Carey. I too was born in Shore Memorial Hospital. I lived in Pleasantville, Absecon and Northfield, and graduated P'ville High School. I left the area for a few years - to Burlington Co with my father. I returned to the AC area in 1979, worked awhile for the Police Dept, then for Resorts and Tropicana. I lived in Ocean City. I was there for the blizzard of '83, and the flood in OC in May (lost my car.) After that, I had had enough and moved to Florida in August. I would love to compare notes on the area with you. Ginnie in Fla

This time of year is always nice in Williamsburg, as is the Christmas season. I live about 5 minutes from the College of William and Mary and Colonial Williamsburg, both very nice places to visit. Linda . ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 9:23 AM Subject: Linda > Every year at this time of the month we vacation in Williamsburg for about a > week - this year I did not go with my daughter and family - in fact I feel so > miserable with this pain in my face,ear and front of my neck that I don't even > want to go across the street - > We usually stay at the Sheraton on York Street - Last year as always I had > back pain while visiting Williamsburg - and needed my daughter to come by car to > the town center -I usallly walk from York street to the side where the horses > are kept to Now I cannot remember if it is the Palace or the other big > Historic building across from Campbell's tavern -- > One year while riding on the town bus I thought to myself I never meet anyone > I know - when arrived in town I see this lady and I thought I know her - Oh > my God - It is Gerry Stillwell from my Church! sure enough she and her husband > were there - It was NJ Teacher's Convention week and we always go there that > week - kids are off from school and my son-in-law was too - he retired as NJ > Teacher in Trenton School System - now my daughter is substitute teaching in > Hamilton Township school system and she is off -as well as her children -- > I am retired so I don't have to worry about being off -and it is nice time of > the year -not too cold and not too HOT - although last year was very Hot -I > spent most of my time in Barnes and Noble - and the Museums in the town - I > love Tasha Tudor stuff and one of the museum features her display ------MarieG > > ______________________________

Thanks, Pat, for the welcome. You mentioned Taylor ham. Is that the infamous Taylor pork roll? Yum! You also mentioned recipes. It's hard to tell what's unique to the area and what food is just handed down through families. Some of the food from my childhood may have even come from England with my great grandparents. I've always loved what our family called "Christmas potatoes", which was half mashed potatoes and half mashed rutabagas. I had a heck of a time finding rutabagas here in the south when I first got here, but I've noticed that changing some in the past few years. I also have fond memories of ham and cabbage, which was ham, cabbage and potatoes, basically combined and stewed together. I consider food like this comfort food now. Anymore, with all the processed food available, anything home cooked is comfort food! We have one Italian restaurant in Williamsburg, which, being a tourist town, has a ton of restaurants. They do okay in the pizza department but there's nothing like NJ pizza. The pizza chains are taking over and highly lacking. Maybe it's the cheese. Or maybe it's the sauce. And where's the grease that's supposed to roll down you're arm when you fold your pizza to eat it? When traveling we can always tell when we're getting close to home. Every corner has a pizza or sub shop. Ahhh, the good old days. It's funny how homesick I've gotten as I've aged. You would think that it would have happened when I was young and left the area. I want to go home more often now than when I was younger. It's harder for me to make the "power trips" home, leaving Friday after work and returning to Virginia Sunday afternoon. Now I need at least a week, and having a child still in school, makes it difficult. Is there anyone on the list that still lives in the area? Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 3:15 PM Subject: Re: Linda > Hi Linda, > > Welcome to our list. I am Pat from Warren Co, in NW Jersey. My family ties > go back to the 1600's/1700's in NJ. A couple of days ago I had a major break > through on my gggrandfather. He has been one of my brick walls. You have > Steelman and Creamer. I have Stillman and Cramer. Close, but not close enough. > > We have a great and supportive list of natives of NJ. We are like an > internet family. Always happy to have new comers and new memories. > > I left NJ in 1963 and have lived in SC, NC and many years in La. Last year > we moved to the country for retirement and I now have very slow internet > access. So...not on as much. As soon as I get one of my children to come over and > get me connected to hi speed internet, I may be on more. > > One of my favorite memories of Atlantic City was going to see Ricky Nelson. > It had that old town feeling with the boarding houses, etc. I think it lost > something, when the glitter and glitz arrived. But...times change, as everyone > seems to tell me. Not always for the better. > > All of us not still in NJ can relate to not being able to find good subs, > Philly cheese steak sandwiches, etc. You failed to mention Taylor ham which > always gets us going. LOL I miss the real Italian pizza shops, Italian food and > Polish/Hungarian type foods. Impossible to find real Kielbasi down here. I > always buy a few and bring them back with me. We all share a love of NJ type > foods. Whenever we approach holidays that always becomes a good topic. Maybe > you have some good family recipes you would like to share for the holidays or > some you would like to find. Jump in and let us know. > > Share some more of your memories and get us going. > > Pat >

Hi Linda, Welcome to our list. I am Pat from Warren Co, in NW Jersey. My family ties go back to the 1600's/1700's in NJ. A couple of days ago I had a major break through on my gggrandfather. He has been one of my brick walls. You have Steelman and Creamer. I have Stillman and Cramer. Close, but not close enough. We have a great and supportive list of natives of NJ. We are like an internet family. Always happy to have new comers and new memories. I left NJ in 1963 and have lived in SC, NC and many years in La. Last year we moved to the country for retirement and I now have very slow internet access. So...not on as much. As soon as I get one of my children to come over and get me connected to hi speed internet, I may be on more. One of my favorite memories of Atlantic City was going to see Ricky Nelson. It had that old town feeling with the boarding houses, etc. I think it lost something, when the glitter and glitz arrived. But...times change, as everyone seems to tell me. Not always for the better. All of us not still in NJ can relate to not being able to find good subs, Philly cheese steak sandwiches, etc. You failed to mention Taylor ham which always gets us going. LOL I miss the real Italian pizza shops, Italian food and Polish/Hungarian type foods. Impossible to find real Kielbasi down here. I always buy a few and bring them back with me. We all share a love of NJ type foods. Whenever we approach holidays that always becomes a good topic. Maybe you have some good family recipes you would like to share for the holidays or some you would like to find. Jump in and let us know. Share some more of your memories and get us going. Pat

Dear list members: Just a reminder about the NJ-Memories list and why it was created and how to use it. NJ-Memories is primarily intended for users to share memories and reminiscences they have about New Jersey. The list was created to remove this kind of message (memories and reminiscences) from the specific county lists (like NJHudson) so the county lists could focus on genealogy. Thus, NJ-Memories is not primarily a genealogy oriented list. This does not mean you cannot use it for genealogy, but you will probably get better genealogical results-more people monitoring a list just focusing on genealogy-if you use the county oriented lists for genealogy and use NJ-Memories for non-genealogical stuff. The NJ-Memories list has 67 subscribers (some L-list and some D-digest) while the NJHudson list has 327 subscribers split between the two (L & D). Genealogy yields better results at the county level. Chris Watson Listowner

Dot - The news has a little about the device hitting a school - seems I turn the new on just about when the LEH item is going off - I didn't get a chance to read it in the paper yesterday -My daugher and her family have a camp site in that area - at Sea Pirate Family Campground -------Marie G

Every year at this time of the month we vacation in Williamsburg for about a week - this year I did not go with my daughter and family - in fact I feel so miserable with this pain in my face,ear and front of my neck that I don't even want to go across the street - We usually stay at the Sheraton on York Street - Last year as always I had back pain while visiting Williamsburg - and needed my daughter to come by car to the town center -I usallly walk from York street to the side where the horses are kept to Now I cannot remember if it is the Palace or the other big Historic building across from Campbell's tavern -- One year while riding on the town bus I thought to myself I never meet anyone I know - when arrived in town I see this lady and I thought I know her - Oh my God - It is Gerry Stillwell from my Church! sure enough she and her husband were there - It was NJ Teacher's Convention week and we always go there that week - kids are off from school and my son-in-law was too - he retired as NJ Teacher in Trenton School System - now my daughter is substitute teaching in Hamilton Township school system and she is off -as well as her children -- I am retired so I don't have to worry about being off -and it is nice time of the year -not too cold and not too HOT - although last year was very Hot -I spent most of my time in Barnes and Noble - and the Museums in the town - I love Tasha Tudor stuff and one of the museum features her display ------MarieG

In a message dated 11/5/2004 7:37:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: What happened to that elementary school in Little Egg Harbor. Something about military air maneuvers went wrong. Has anyone heard about that? According to my paper it was hit with bullets on a training mission. Nobody in it and nobody hurt just bullet holes in roof and some ceilings down. Off the top of my head I don't remember what base is a few miles away but the plane came from there. Dot

In a message dated 11/5/2004 6:27:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Hi Y'all, Everybody is asking where is Carl????? Well I'm still here as always lurking in the back ground and just doing what I do normally eat, work and sleep mostly the middle. Y'all know it's my busy season and am I ever looking forward to the winter lay off as it has been a very busy and hectic year. I'll be more active come winter I promise. Some of you know I had to put ole Nanook down on July 1 my companion of 18 years. Any way that's about it from the lakes of Kentucky. Linda welcome aboard, hope to here more about you and your memories of NJ Carl Hi Carl, Good to hear from you. Hope you enjoy a much deserved rest this winter. But it will be lonely without Nanook. You need another companion. Dot

What happened to that elementary school in Little Egg Harbor. Something about military air maneuvers went wrong. Has anyone heard about that? Robin

Hi Y'all, Everybody is asking where is Carl????? Well I'm still here as always lurking in the back ground and just doing what I do normally eat, work and sleep mostly the middle. Y'all know it's my busy season and am I ever looking forward to the winter lay off as it has been a very busy and hectic year. I'll be more active come winter I promise. Some of you know I had to put ole Nanook down on July 1 my companion of 18 years. Any way that's about it from the lakes of Kentucky. Linda welcome aboard, hope to here more about you and your memories of NJ Carl

In a message dated 11/5/2004 2:32:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I ate a couple of tubs of Johnson's caramel corn on top of the many cheese steak subs. There's nothing like a sub from the shore. We don't have subs here in Williamsburg, although they try to pass off imitations as Philly cheese steaks. They don't even come close. And the Italian "subs" here ============================ Try finding a Philly Cheesesteak in Fl. I heard a rumor there was a good place in Clearwater but haven't gotten there yet. Last one I had I asked what kind of cheese they put on. When she said American I told her to skip the cheese. It should be provolone. There was a young fellow behind me who said you're right. He's the one who told me about Clearwater. To end my story guess what I got? It was thin sliced steak but was cut up line you would feed someone without any teeth. Never buy there again. :( And I'd give my eye teeth for a good Italian Hot Dog Dot