Jerilyn, I loved to make my stuffing with whole loaf bread too. You're right , the fun part was the mixing. I found the other day eggs that had been pasturized and you cannot notice any taste difference. Now to make Egg Nog again and not worry about the eggs. Do you know what time it is now?......for the dipping and enjoying of my favorite thingee?? Did get some Apple Cider today. Normie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Henderson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 1:35 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [NJ-Memories] Food! > Anne, > Since my father worked as a baker at the A+P Bakery,he would bring home "stuffing bread"that was not sliced.I have very fond childhood memories of breaking up the bread and helping my MomMom and Mother the night before Thanksgiving.It is weird,I guess,but the best part for me was adding the eggs,and squishing it all into the rest of the ingredients.Sort of like playing with clay! > :-) > Jerilyn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] ; [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 1:01 PM > Subject: Re: Fw: [NJ-Memories] Food! > > > Jerilyn: > > We also left the bread out overnight and then put it in warm water one slice at a time and squeesed it as dry as possible. > > Ann > > In a message dated 11/10/2004 12:53:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Anne, > Our family stuffing...never called it dressing,but did sometimes called it > filling...also had a quarter pound of melted butter in it. > Jerilyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 12:20 PM > Subject: Re: Fw: [NJ-Memories] Food! > > > > > Getting back to the food. My daughter and I are trying to remember my > > father's recipe for Stuffing. I can remember him, as my mother was > > making the > > stuffing, smelling it and telling her what spice it needed. > > > > I found a Basic Bread Stuffing which called for onions, celery, salt & > > pepper, eggs, sage & poultry seasoning. > > > > Can anyone add to this? Thanks. > > > > Ann > > > AVP > > > ============================== > OneWorldTree - The World's largest family tree. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13971/rd.ashx >

Lisa, Your postings on food is driving me crazy. Everything you write about sounds like a blast from the past. Forget where, but in Plainfield there was a great Steak house where you could watch them grill the steaks. We had this on a coulple years ago and someone did come up with the name. Do you know it? I would remember if I heard it, big problem I don't remember things. Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Vible" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 11:56 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [NJ-Memories] Food! > Lisa, > > You're right about the stuffing. I still make fresh bread stuffing with our > turkey. I've never thought of trying a cornbread "dressing". My former > mother-in-law grew up on a turkey farm in South Jersey and I learned from > her. She also taught me about stewed tomatoes with macaroni and cheese. > > We are able to get Entemenn's here, but Tasty Cakes can be hard to come by. > There's one grocery store here that sells Dietz and Watson hot dogs, too. I > have to buy packaged sweet sausage which is sold as individual links instead > of being able to get a chain of links. I love sausage, onions and peppers. > > Linda > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "BEAUTIFUL BUTTERFLY4U" <[email protected]> > To: "Linda Vible" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 2:01 PM > Subject: Re: Fw: [NJ-Memories] Food! > > >> WELLLLLLLLLL---- FOOD BRINGS THE JERSEY OUT IN US!!!!! (HA-HA) >> I miss the pork roll so very much!!! i have found that different parts >> of the country have different foods --- so much that i miss here in >> Arkansas. no hard rolls, no pork roll, even the thanksgiving dressing >> here is different ......... it is CORNBREAD dressing..... no one has >> ever heard of bread stuffing (can you believe it?). no philly steak, and >> the best pizza is dominos (YUCK)!!!!! NO ENTEMANNS, no drakes cakes, and >> so much more that is missing.i live in a small rural area of south west >> arkansas, back woods country. it is hard being away from jersey. i >> married a man from here who has never been out of arkansas except to >> visit sister in fort worth but never went anywhere there either. so he >> and i come from different cultures. he has no clue what i am talking >> about when i talk about food from jersey. >> well enough said for now. >> i grew up in New Brunswick ---- sure miss it alot!!!!!! >> >> JERSEY GIRL FOREVER >> LISA >> >> > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Didn't know that one Dot but it sounds good also. I wonder if the Stockton Inn is still in business. We lived up the road from there. Not many places to eat then, unless you went to Lambertsville and not much there either. Guess Flemington was the biggie place to eat. Out stock car guys on here remember the Flemington and Somerville Circle as being the place to eat after the races. Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] ; [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 5:31 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [NJ-Memories] Food! In a message dated 11/9/2004 4:16:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: to make fried sandwiches. Summer Balogne, sharp cheese on bread and dip the bread in beaten eggs and fry. Norma, Sounds like a Monte Cristo. Only the Monte Cristo is turkey, ham and cheese and whole sandwich dipped in egg and fried. Yum!! Haven't had one of those since I left Jersey. Used to get them at the Stockton Inn in Stockton on the Delaware. Dot

Pat, We're doing as well as possible. I am having the worst time, but hopefully I am recovering. frank gets his other knee done the end of Nov. I was supposed to have mine done instead ended up with congestive heart, blood clots ect and so on and on and on. Bummer. I don't give up easy, as you can see I am typing away now to the nicest people I know here on the Memories Web. Darn we all do have a lot in common. You know how much I enjoy your farming. We live our days on the farm whenever I hear from you about your farm. Darn, I wish we were on one yet. Big mistake but when we tried to buy down here they were out of reach. Your menu tonight I am not mentioning to Frank, it is one of his favorites. By the by do you ever cook those crawling critters you see in your pasture. People do you know. Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 10:24 PM Subject: [NJ-Memories] Re: Norma/ Cabbage > Norma, > > I am in the process of cooking cabbage with ham tonight and spicy cabbage > soup. Soup is like the cabbage soup at Shoney's. Deer got in the cabbage crop > last nite and we were picking the rest today. Guess I will be parboiling and > freezing the rest tomorrow. How much cabbage can two people eat??? Don't > think he will fool with a winter garden next year. Still picking green onions, > cauliflower and broccoli. > > My beef probably tastes like your husbands used to, but now my recipes taste > different. LOL > > Hope you and Frank are doing well. > > Pat > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

Dot Not Southern here but I love those Grits and get them whenever we are at the Cracker Barrel. My Mom made Grits but they were really yellow ground corn and we ate that as cereal. had a Jewish friend and she always came camping with the yellow in a bread pan and we sliced it and ate with Maple Syrup on them. Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Re: Limas and ham > In a message dated 11/9/2004 10:29:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > These southerners eat everything over rice. > Yep or with grits. :-) > > Dot > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

Pat, Do you remember when we bought our steaks at farm butcher shop in Califon, and then later found out they were horse meat. So desperate to find a steak I remember buying from a butcher where the meat laid out on the block all day, and I do remember flies also. Seems we were not to bothered by them in the old days. Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 10:42 PM Subject: [NJ-Memories] Re: Jerilyn > Jerilyn, > > Congratulations in advance. My mother will be here at that time and I might > not get on much. > > We will be married 40 yrs next Aug. I can remember buying nice steaks for > $1.00. You are right about not getting water for that price today. > > Pat > > > ============================== > Expand your family tree. Search more than 200 million names in > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

Norma, My grandmother had one of those old iron stoves and to make toast she laid it on the burner of a two burner electric thing. Name eludes me right now. With real butter that was the best toast. She fried eggs in butter, too. Our toaster when I was young stood upright and the doors folded down. They sell for more now at the auction than they did back then. LOL Pat

Dot, I love the stinky Sharp Cheddars. Even living on the Eastern Shore 8 yrs. ago I bought our cheese where they cut it off a ring on the counter. Like the old days in Jersey thats how we bought our cheese. remember we got our cookies out of boxes on the floor with a lift up window where you could see all those good cookies. I loved the ones that were a square choc and van cookie, and I forget but they had a name. Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [NJ-Memories] Re: Fathers/cheese > In a message dated 11/9/2004 10:45:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > My father loved all cheeses, including the > stinky ones. YUK!!! > Don't know what was with them except mine was German and every German I nkew > loved that stinky stuff. > Dot > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

Dot and Ann, Thanks for the information. Right after I signed off, I picked up a soup magazine and their was chicken spaetzle soup. Unbelievable, guess I saw it but just didn't register it, because I didn't know what it was. Pat

Pat, We are really dating ourselves. Of course my Granny had one of those. We laughed the other night when my toaster almost burned the toast, and we said tasted like when we put bread on the burners of the wood burning stoves. Frank said did I remember when they used a fork and held over a flame to toast bread. He said when they got the first toaster it amazed them all. Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 10:30 PM Subject: [NJ-Memories] Re: Dot/ Limas > Dot, > > My aunt used to cook hers in the over and my mother cooked hers in a pot that > fit in a pot well on the stove. Anyone remember those??? > > Pat > > > ============================== > New! OneWorldTree. Building Trees. Connecting Families. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13970/rd.ashx >

Robin, I lived on the Eastern Shore for 15 yrs and I know how good their food was. Bet your cookbook has many of the things I am used to eating. Down here you cannot find a good Crab AuGratin like the Trawler on the Eastern Shore made. Close is the Red Lobster but not close enough. Can you look and see if its in your book. Wonder why I never bought that book myself. My favorite is a Pa Dutch Cookbook my husband gave me a long long time ago. Yes I use it yet. Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin Stinson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 3:02 PM Subject: [NJ-Memories] New Cook Book > Hi, > I meant to say earlier that my mom gave me a new cookbook. It isn't actually new. She got it years ago but thought I could get more use to it. > Has any ever heard of "Mrs. Kitching's Smith Island Cookbook"?? > The 1st. I have ever heard of Smith Island is on a PBS special years ago. This Island has a language of it's own. Isn't it amazing. My other cookbook is "Cook's Tour of the Eastern Shore" > There are some great old recipes in this book and the other. If anyone is interested let me know. > Love, > Robin > > > > > ============================== > Search our Immigration Records and view names from multiple ports > ranging from 1500s - 1900s. Over 23 million records to view. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13967/rd.ashx >

Hi, Unfortunately, we do not have stuffing bread down here that I have ever found. My mother taught the youngest grandaughter how to make her stuffing. I use Pepperidge Farm cubes. Pat

In a message dated 11/10/2004 1:36:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Anne, Since my father worked as a baker at the A+P Bakery,he would bring home "stuffing bread"that was not sliced.I have very fond childhood memories of breaking up the bread and helping my MomMom and Mother the night before Thanksgiving.It is weird,I guess,but the best part for me was adding the eggs,and squishing it all into the rest of the ingredients.Sort of like playing with clay! Yes, we'd squish and squish that stuffing. It smelled SO good. As my daughter was growing up I got her to do it and she still likes to do. She has no children so I guess she'll continue the tradition. Ann AVP

Anne, Since my father worked as a baker at the A+P Bakery,he would bring home "stuffing bread"that was not sliced.I have very fond childhood memories of breaking up the bread and helping my MomMom and Mother the night before Thanksgiving.It is weird,I guess,but the best part for me was adding the eggs,and squishing it all into the rest of the ingredients.Sort of like playing with clay! :-) Jerilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] ; [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 1:01 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [NJ-Memories] Food! Jerilyn: We also left the bread out overnight and then put it in warm water one slice at a time and squeesed it as dry as possible. Ann In a message dated 11/10/2004 12:53:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Anne, Our family stuffing...never called it dressing,but did sometimes called it filling...also had a quarter pound of melted butter in it. Jerilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 12:20 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [NJ-Memories] Food! > > Getting back to the food. My daughter and I are trying to remember my > father's recipe for Stuffing. I can remember him, as my mother was > making the > stuffing, smelling it and telling her what spice it needed. > > I found a Basic Bread Stuffing which called for onions, celery, salt & > pepper, eggs, sage & poultry seasoning. > > Can anyone add to this? Thanks. > > Ann AVP

Jerilyn: We also left the bread out overnight and then put it in warm water one slice at a time and squeesed it as dry as possible. Ann In a message dated 11/10/2004 12:53:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Anne, Our family stuffing...never called it dressing,but did sometimes called it filling...also had a quarter pound of melted butter in it. Jerilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 12:20 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [NJ-Memories] Food! > > Getting back to the food. My daughter and I are trying to remember my > father's recipe for Stuffing. I can remember him, as my mother was > making the > stuffing, smelling it and telling her what spice it needed. > > I found a Basic Bread Stuffing which called for onions, celery, salt & > pepper, eggs, sage & poultry seasoning. > > Can anyone add to this? Thanks. > > Ann AVP

Anne, Our family stuffing...never called it dressing,but did sometimes called it filling...also had a quarter pound of melted butter in it. Jerilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 12:20 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [NJ-Memories] Food! > > In a message dated 11/10/2004 11:56:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > You're right about the stuffing. I still make fresh bread stuffing with > our > turkey. I've never thought of trying a cornbread "dressing". My former > mother-in-law grew up on a turkey farm in South Jersey and I learned from > her. She also taught me about stewed tomatoes with macaroni and cheese. > > > > Getting back to the food. My daughter and I are trying to remember my > father's recipe for Stuffing. I can remember him, as my mother was > making the > stuffing, smelling it and telling her what spice it needed. > > I found a Basic Bread Stuffing which called for onions, celery, salt & > pepper, eggs, sage & poultry seasoning. > > Can anyone add to this? Thanks. > > Ann > > > > AVP > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

In a message dated 11/10/2004 11:56:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: You're right about the stuffing. I still make fresh bread stuffing with our turkey. I've never thought of trying a cornbread "dressing". My former mother-in-law grew up on a turkey farm in South Jersey and I learned from her. She also taught me about stewed tomatoes with macaroni and cheese. Getting back to the food. My daughter and I are trying to remember my father's recipe for Stuffing. I can remember him, as my mother was making the stuffing, smelling it and telling her what spice it needed. I found a Basic Bread Stuffing which called for onions, celery, salt & pepper, eggs, sage & poultry seasoning. Can anyone add to this? Thanks. Ann AVP

Yep. Home Plate was on Main Street, just a few blocks down from the bus station. Wasn't the Spencer's on the Black Horse Pike going into Atlantic City. How about Two Guys? If you were going into AC, Spencer's was on the left and Two Guys was on the right. Ruffu Ford is gone. In fact, we watched the fireworks on the 4th in their parking lot. Best seats in the house! Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ginnie Carey" <[email protected]> To: "Linda Vible" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 4:12 PM Subject: RE: Pleasantville Wasn't the Home Plate in town Pleasantville? It has been a long time. I do remember the old Longport Bridge. Before the flood of 1984, I used to drive into AC for my job at the casino. I li ved in Ocean City. After the flood, I lost my car and started riding the good old bus! We had to go by way of the mainland, so it took an hour from beginning to end. Do you remember when Spencer Gifts had an office at the old A&P building in town? I worked there one season. Last time I was up there in 95, they had the cut over I guess you would call it for Searstown circle, but nothing on the second one. My hubby hated and feared them....he is from Michigan and they don't have them there. I went to Hamilton Mall that year too. Northfield has grown so much, I didn't recognize it. Time to get back to work. More later. I am really enjoying this. Ginnie -----Original Message----- From: Linda Vible [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 11:56 AM To: Ginnie Carey; [email protected] Subject: Re: Pleasantville Ginnie, My dad cooked for the Home Plate. We would sometimes visit him at work and that was when my love of coconut custard pie began. I remember the Halloween parade in those days and Dad would sit us in the front window to watch it. My little sister would freak when Dracula walked by. She had a fear of Dracula for many years. My mother didn't drive in those days, and we'd catch the bus at Shore Road and Central Avenue to the bus station. We'd shop at the grocery store and take a cab home. We sometimes visited the Salvation Army there on the corner, too. I was sneaking into Tony Mart's when I was 16. I can't stand that they built a night club in it's place after it shut down. Bay Shores had closed by the time I started bar scene. The Anchorage used to have 10 beers for a dollar. Besides the Melody Lounge, there were the bars in Margate. I can't remember their names. They were all on one block. Then there was Dunes till Dawn, previously known as Mother's, I think. And the Attic. Do you remember the old Longport bridge? You could only drive 20 miles an hour over it. I loved the Point Diner. They celebrated their 25th anniversary in 1974, I think. The owners sold the place a few years after I moved to Virginia. It was some time in the early 80s and it's not been the same. We could always go to the diner after Tony Marts closed. DiOrios is still there, the Crab Trap restaurant, and Circle Liquor are still thriving. The circles are disappearing. They removed the one that connected Tilton Road to Black Horse Pike and they removed the one at the Shore Mall. Atlantic City High is now on the Black Horse pike going into Atlantic City. The Hamilton Mall is nice. Shore Mall has Boscov's to keep it alive, but it's not the same. For as much as the area has changed, there's still so much that remains the same and that's nice, isn't it? Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ginnie Carey" <[email protected]> To: "Linda Vible" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 12:51 PM Subject: RE: Pleasantville I was born in 1942 and lived in a 3 story house on New Rd, until my grandmother died when I was 5. Then I lived in Absecon. I finally moved to Northfield when I was 12, and graduated PHS in '60. I know where the Home Plate was, used to go to the soda fountain after school, and to the music store next door on Main St. We would walk down from school, then back to the busstation to head for home. Do you remember Ben's Bar-B-Que? I spent many hours in that place. Tony Mart's was my first 'legal' drinking place. (Went to the Melody Lounge in Atlantic City underage.) I have had nany meals at the Point Diner, the last in 1995. I have not been back since then - my mother passed away that summer. Since I moved here, Taylor Pork Roll and Sweitzel's Spiced Wafers have followed me. Still can't find a decent cheese steak though. Ginnie in Fla. -----Original Message----- From: Linda Vible [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 12:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Pleasantville Hi, Ginny. It seems we have been in the same places. How long ago did you live in Pleasantville? Do you remember the Home Plate Restaurant? That would be going back about 35 years. My mother had a friend who lived in Pleasantville, and as a child, we used to go crabbing in the bay. I think it was at the end of Oakland Avenue. In fact, my parents lived in Pleasantville when I was born. They lived on Park Avenue behind the Fire Department. Pleasantville has really become run down. It's too bad. I think the casinos have a lot to do with it. A lot of people are commuting to work from further away, like Mays Landing. Have you been back to the area recently? Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ginnie Carey" <[email protected]> To: "Linda Vible" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 11:15 AM Subject: RE: [NJ-Memories] Introduction: New to Group Linda, I must introduce myself, since it seems we have walked the same walk and been to the same places. I am Virginia (Ginnie) Van Kirk Carey. I too was born in Shore Memorial Hospital. I lived in Pleasantville, Absecon and Northfield, and graduated P'ville High School. I left the area for a few years - to Burlington Co with my father. I returned to the AC area in 1979, worked awhile for the Police Dept, then for Resorts and Tropicana. I lived in Ocean City. I was there for the blizzard of '83, and the flood in OC in May (lost my car.) After that, I had had enough and moved to Florida in August. I would love to compare notes on the area with you. Ginnie in Fla

Succotash! I haven't had that since I left home. Don't miss it, either. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] ; [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 2:58 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [NJ-Memories] Food! In a message dated 11/9/2004 12:26:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: It seems many people remembered the ham and cabbage. Did anyone ever have lima beans and ham? The lima beans were actually huge white beans. I haven't had this dish in 30 years. Oh! How I hated lima beans. One of my father's favorites. Another thing was succatash. Hated that too. Ann AVP

Lisa, You're right about the stuffing. I still make fresh bread stuffing with our turkey. I've never thought of trying a cornbread "dressing". My former mother-in-law grew up on a turkey farm in South Jersey and I learned from her. She also taught me about stewed tomatoes with macaroni and cheese. We are able to get Entemenn's here, but Tasty Cakes can be hard to come by. There's one grocery store here that sells Dietz and Watson hot dogs, too. I have to buy packaged sweet sausage which is sold as individual links instead of being able to get a chain of links. I love sausage, onions and peppers. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "BEAUTIFUL BUTTERFLY4U" <[email protected]> To: "Linda Vible" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 2:01 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [NJ-Memories] Food! > WELLLLLLLLLL---- FOOD BRINGS THE JERSEY OUT IN US!!!!! (HA-HA) > I miss the pork roll so very much!!! i have found that different parts > of the country have different foods --- so much that i miss here in > Arkansas. no hard rolls, no pork roll, even the thanksgiving dressing > here is different ......... it is CORNBREAD dressing..... no one has > ever heard of bread stuffing (can you believe it?). no philly steak, and > the best pizza is dominos (YUCK)!!!!! NO ENTEMANNS, no drakes cakes, and > so much more that is missing.i live in a small rural area of south west > arkansas, back woods country. it is hard being away from jersey. i > married a man from here who has never been out of arkansas except to > visit sister in fort worth but never went anywhere there either. so he > and i come from different cultures. he has no clue what i am talking > about when i talk about food from jersey. > well enough said for now. > i grew up in New Brunswick ---- sure miss it alot!!!!!! > > JERSEY GIRL FOREVER > LISA > >