Everyone, Thank you !! What a great response but it is not him. He was born in Germany and came to the US in 1888.Charles daughter also gives the same address in Paterson, NJ in 1901 on her marriage lic. I am going to have to look into renting some of the films. Charles was a laborer and I know that at least 2 of his children, Rose Killian and John Killian worked at the Paterson silk factory. and that some of the surnames who married into this family were Hornung, Shirlaw, Hamilton, Bestmann My grandmother who is 92, is the last surviving member of her family and her memory is starting to go, she tried to help me over the weekend but seems to get more upset when she talks of all of her family who are gone,she wants so bad to find out more about her grandparents(Charles and Carolina Killian) but time is not on our side. Thank you all for the great tips !! Trisha FitzRandolph Founder FitzRandolph Historical Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~njfrghs/njfrhs