Here are the direct links to the Information is Power article by Terry Allen previously referred to by George Eastman's Online Genealogy. http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/2488/ There is also a discussion following the article here: http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/discuss/2488/ Read through the posts. It's very enlightening and certainly of interest to genealogists but some posts reflect people's attitudes and how blase we can be about letting the "government" do what it wants. Do our family records belong to the government or to us? I just recently received my grandfather's 1898 birth certificate from the state of New Jersey. I requested it by mail. I sent them a copy of my driver's license. It took five months for it to arrive. I live in Louisiana. They didn't require any other proof that I was his granddaughter. What if they had? Would I have had to send them copies of my birth certificate? My mother's birth certificate? Perhaps a few marriage certificates that reflect name changes or my certificate of legal name change? This could certainly get out of hand. I'm just now beginning a more thorough search of my New Jersey roots. Will I be restricted from getting records of my grandfather's siblings and the rest of his family? Will they think I'm a terrorist because I want to know where his brothers lived and who they married? What if I were getting the records to falsify my identity? Would I really be able to pass myself off as a 107-year-old? Male or female? This is beyond absurd. Just when we are finally getting access to more and more of our old records at the touch of a keypad, the government decides we shouldn't have them. After the decades of hard work of genealogists who spent years combing old book stacks, dirty files and illegible records, they are closing the doors to us because of terrorists! Should I write letters to the New Jersey reprensentatives even though I don't live there? What about letters to the people in Washington? Kasey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Yes! Send this letter to the Assembly people who are trying to pass this law in NJ - and to the head of the Assembly and Senate and to NJ's Governor -- they need to hear this!! Their e-mail addresses are all on-line -- just Google New Jersey government! Thanks for your passion!!! Pat Peoples Ormond Beach, FL (and a NJ native) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kasey Richard" <kaseysworld2@yahoo.com> To: <NJ-GSNJ-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 2:27 AM Subject: [GSNJ] Direct links Information Is Power > Here are the direct links to the Information is Power article by Terry > Allen previously referred to by George Eastman's Online Genealogy. > http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/2488/ > > There is also a discussion following the article here: > http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/discuss/2488/ > > Read through the posts. It's very enlightening and certainly of interest > to genealogists but some posts reflect people's attitudes and how blase we > can be about letting the "government" do what it wants. > > Do our family records belong to the government or to us? > > I just recently received my grandfather's 1898 birth certificate from the > state of New Jersey. I requested it by mail. I sent them a copy of my > driver's license. It took five months for it to arrive. I live in > Louisiana. They didn't require any other proof that I was his > granddaughter. What if they had? Would I have had to send them copies of > my birth certificate? My mother's birth certificate? Perhaps a few > marriage certificates that reflect name changes or my certificate of legal > name change? This could certainly get out of hand. > > I'm just now beginning a more thorough search of my New Jersey roots. > Will I be restricted from getting records of my grandfather's siblings and > the rest of his family? Will they think I'm a terrorist because I want to > know where his brothers lived and who they married? > > What if I were getting the records to falsify my identity? Would I > really be able to pass myself off as a 107-year-old? Male or female? > This is beyond absurd. Just when we are finally getting access to more > and more of our old records at the touch of a keypad, the government > decides we shouldn't have them. After the decades of hard work of > genealogists who spent years combing old book stacks, dirty files and > illegible records, they are closing the doors to us because of terrorists! > > Should I write letters to the New Jersey reprensentatives even though I > don't live there? What about letters to the people in Washington? > > Kasey > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== > New Jersey Legislative Alerts: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsnj/legislation.html > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >
Casey, This was posted by someone else quite recently. I sent the articles to a bunch of legislators in NJ...now if they only read it. I was watching a news program on TV about 2 weeks ago...just happened upon it...& what Bush is doing on the Nat'l level with Korean War records that have been available & are no longer available & they have classified them & many other papers. I wish I could remember the program as I would send for a transcript. It's not only the state level, but many of the records which were available under the Freedom of Information Act are no longer going to be available or are not available already. It has nothing to do with terrorists. This country is getting more communistic every day. It is a very scary thing. Little by little our rights are being taken away...under the radar & if the watch dogs don't catch it, it's too late. Just my thoughts, Jeanine NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kasey Richard" <kaseysworld2@yahoo.com> To: <NJ-GSNJ-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 2:27 AM Subject: [GSNJ] Direct links Information Is Power > Here are the direct links to the Information is Power article by Terry Allen previously referred to by George Eastman's Online Genealogy. http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/2488/ > > There is also a discussion following the article here: http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/discuss/2488/ > > Read through the posts. It's very enlightening and certainly of interest to genealogists but some posts reflect people's attitudes and how blase we can be about letting the "government" do what it wants. > > Do our family records belong to the government or to us? > > I just recently received my grandfather's 1898 birth certificate from the state of New Jersey. I requested it by mail. I sent them a copy of my driver's license. It took five months for it to arrive. I live in Louisiana. They didn't require any other proof that I was his granddaughter. What if they had? Would I have had to send them copies of my birth certificate? My mother's birth certificate? Perhaps a few marriage certificates that reflect name changes or my certificate of legal name change? This could certainly get out of hand. > > I'm just now beginning a more thorough search of my New Jersey roots. Will I be restricted from getting records of my grandfather's siblings and the rest of his family? Will they think I'm a terrorist because I want to know where his brothers lived and who they married? > > What if I were getting the records to falsify my identity? Would I really be able to pass myself off as a 107-year-old? Male or female? This is beyond absurd. Just when we are finally getting access to more and more of our old records at the touch of a keypad, the government decides we shouldn't have them. After the decades of hard work of genealogists who spent years combing old book stacks, dirty files and illegible records, they are closing the doors to us because of terrorists! > > Should I write letters to the New Jersey reprensentatives even though I don't live there? What about letters to the people in Washington? > > Kasey > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== > New Jersey Legislative Alerts: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsnj/legislation.html > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >
Hello to all, I agree whole heartedly with Jeanine and all she had to say. Maryann jmatt413@comcast.net wrote: Casey, This was posted by someone else quite recently. I sent the articles to a bunch of legislators in NJ...now if they only read it. I was watching a news program on TV about 2 weeks ago...just happened upon it...& what Bush is doing on the Nat'l level with Korean War records that have been available & are no longer available & they have classified them & many other papers. I wish I could remember the program as I would send for a transcript. It's not only the state level, but many of the records which were available under the Freedom of Information Act are no longer going to be available or are not available already. It has nothing to do with terrorists. This country is getting more communistic every day. It is a very scary thing. Little by little our rights are being taken away...under the radar & if the watch dogs don't catch it, it's too late. Just my thoughts, Jeanine NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kasey Richard" To: Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 2:27 AM Subject: [GSNJ] Direct links Information Is Power > Here are the direct links to the Information is Power article by Terry Allen previously referred to by George Eastman's Online Genealogy. http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/2488/ > > There is also a discussion following the article here: http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/discuss/2488/ > > Read through the posts. It's very enlightening and certainly of interest to genealogists but some posts reflect people's attitudes and how blase we can be about letting the "government" do what it wants. > > Do our family records belong to the government or to us? > > I just recently received my grandfather's 1898 birth certificate from the state of New Jersey. I requested it by mail. I sent them a copy of my driver's license. It took five months for it to arrive. I live in Louisiana. They didn't require any other proof that I was his granddaughter. What if they had? Would I have had to send them copies of my birth certificate? My mother's birth certificate? Perhaps a few marriage certificates that reflect name changes or my certificate of legal name change? This could certainly get out of hand. > > I'm just now beginning a more thorough search of my New Jersey roots. Will I be restricted from getting records of my grandfather's siblings and the rest of his family? Will they think I'm a terrorist because I want to know where his brothers lived and who they married? > > What if I were getting the records to falsify my identity? Would I really be able to pass myself off as a 107-year-old? Male or female? This is beyond absurd. Just when we are finally getting access to more and more of our old records at the touch of a keypad, the government decides we shouldn't have them. After the decades of hard work of genealogists who spent years combing old book stacks, dirty files and illegible records, they are closing the doors to us because of terrorists! > > Should I write letters to the New Jersey reprensentatives even though I don't live there? What about letters to the people in Washington? > > Kasey > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== > New Jersey Legislative Alerts: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsnj/legislation.html > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== Genealogical Magazine of New Jersey: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsnj/genmag.html ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.
Being inspired by the "Power Article,: has anyone out there heard about the computor chip implant for identity purposes that has been mentioned in the past? Perhaps this is the beginning to this era. It has been said that this will lead to total dependence on the chip. It is already in use in Mexico to confirm identity and health history. I once saw a newspaper article showing a doctor scanning a mans arm for his medical history. The scanner gets the man's code number. This was being done in Miami, Florida. Also predicted is a whole world monetary system with the World Bank being in Germany. There already is the Euro doller in a large part of Europe. When Bush was asked concerning whether or not the US might eventually join this monetary system, Bush said that " the US would consider the issue at the Appropriate time." Eventually leading to a "cashless" society with total dependence on the micro chip. It is said that we are headed for a socialistic state, where all aspects of society are controlled by the government. Then we will not have access to anything. It certainly looks like we are heading in that direction now. The decision on our Ports without anyones approval or even knowing about it, the decision to seal the archive records to everyone. We now have the possibility of having our phones and computors tapped. What do you think this is all leading to? And Bush has 3 more years. Very scary to me ! ! What next ??? Maryann Kasey Richard <kaseysworld2@yahoo.com> wrote: Here are the direct links to the Information is Power article by Terry Allen previously referred to by George Eastman's Online Genealogy. http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/2488/ There is also a discussion following the article here: http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/discuss/2488/ Read through the posts. It's very enlightening and certainly of interest to genealogists but some posts reflect people's attitudes and how blase we can be about letting the "government" do what it wants. Do our family records belong to the government or to us? I just recently received my grandfather's 1898 birth certificate from the state of New Jersey. I requested it by mail. I sent them a copy of my driver's license. It took five months for it to arrive. I live in Louisiana. They didn't require any other proof that I was his granddaughter. What if they had? Would I have had to send them copies of my birth certificate? My mother's birth certificate? Perhaps a few marriage certificates that reflect name changes or my certificate of legal name change? This could certainly get out of hand. I'm just now beginning a more thorough search of my New Jersey roots. Will I be restricted from getting records of my grandfather's siblings and the rest of his family? Will they think I'm a terrorist because I want to know where his brothers lived and who they married? What if I were getting the records to falsify my identity? Would I really be able to pass myself off as a 107-year-old? Male or female? This is beyond absurd. Just when we are finally getting access to more and more of our old records at the touch of a keypad, the government decides we shouldn't have them. After the decades of hard work of genealogists who spent years combing old book stacks, dirty files and illegible records, they are closing the doors to us because of terrorists! Should I write letters to the New Jersey reprensentatives even though I don't live there? What about letters to the people in Washington? Kasey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== New Jersey Legislative Alerts: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsnj/legislation.html ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.