It's a matter of definition, Jeanine. Actually, we who are older remember how Hitler's fascists consolidated power and took control of Germany the same way; and they hated socialists and communists. But, this has little to do with genealogy, except to point out how we can lose access to family records because of our oligarchy's paranoia. And now, back to genealogy. ----- Original Message ----- From: "maryann clark" <mrmc4540@yahoo.com> To: <NJ-GSNJ-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [GSNJ] Direct links Information Is Power > Hello to all, > > I agree whole heartedly with Jeanine and all she had to say. > > Maryann > > jmatt413@comcast.net wrote: > Casey, > This was posted by someone else quite recently. I sent the articles to a > bunch of legislators in NJ...now if they only read it. > > I was watching a news program on TV about 2 weeks ago...just happened upon > it...& what Bush is doing on the Nat'l level with Korean War records that > have been available & are no longer available & they have classified them > & > many other papers. I wish I could remember the program as I would send for > a transcript. It's not only the state level, but many of the records which > were available under the Freedom of Information Act are no longer going to > be available or are not available already. It has nothing to do with > terrorists. > This country is getting more communistic every day. It is a very scary > thing. Little by little our rights are being taken away...under the radar > & > if the watch dogs don't catch it, it's too late. > Just my thoughts, > Jeanine > NJ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kasey Richard" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 2:27 AM > Subject: [GSNJ] Direct links Information Is Power > > >> Here are the direct links to the Information is Power article by Terry > Allen previously referred to by George Eastman's Online Genealogy. > http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/2488/ >> >> There is also a discussion following the article here: > http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/discuss/2488/ >> >> Read through the posts. It's very enlightening and certainly of > interest to genealogists but some posts reflect people's attitudes and how > blase we can be about letting the "government" do what it wants. >> >> Do our family records belong to the government or to us? >> >> I just recently received my grandfather's 1898 birth certificate from > the state of New Jersey. I requested it by mail. I sent them a copy of my > driver's license. It took five months for it to arrive. I live in > Louisiana. They didn't require any other proof that I was his > granddaughter. What if they had? Would I have had to send them copies of > my birth certificate? My mother's birth certificate? Perhaps a few > marriage certificates that reflect name changes or my certificate of legal > name change? This could certainly get out of hand. >> >> I'm just now beginning a more thorough search of my New Jersey roots. > Will I be restricted from getting records of my grandfather's siblings and > the rest of his family? Will they think I'm a terrorist because I want to > know where his brothers lived and who they married? >> >> What if I were getting the records to falsify my identity? Would I > really be able to pass myself off as a 107-year-old? Male or female? This > is beyond absurd. Just when we are finally getting access to more and more > of our old records at the touch of a keypad, the government decides we > shouldn't have them. After the decades of hard work of genealogists who > spent years combing old book stacks, dirty files and illegible records, > they > are closing the doors to us because of terrorists! >> >> Should I write letters to the New Jersey reprensentatives even though I > don't live there? What about letters to the people in Washington? >> >> Kasey >> >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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