Dear Researchers, This is my current brick wall. I am sending this to multiple lists as borders changed and families moved around. I have Solomon H. Marsh JR in Westfield, Essex Co., to Jemimah Dolbier. (1) 1 Solomon Marsh Jr. (1810 - aft 1870) & Jemimah Dolbier (Dolbere, Dolbear) (1816 - ) | (2) 1.1 Alonzo Marsh (1834 - ) | (2) 1.2 John M. Marsh (1837 - ) & Nancy W. Johnson (Mar 1840 - 1921) | (2) 1.3 Almira Marsh (1838 - ) | (2) 1.4 Martin (Morton) Marsh (1843 - ) | (2) 1.5 Joseph (N?) Marsh (1843/1846 - ) | (2) 1.6 Solomon O. H. Marsh (Summer 1847 - ) | (2) 1.7 Rolph Marsh (1849 - ) First of all, does anyone have Dolbiers (I think Jemimah was sister of Jesse who married the following year in the same church)? The rest of the discussion slash question is re: Marsh... (Note: birth dates based on censuses, and the family is consistent 1850-60-70). The 1840 census 1840 Federal Census for NJ (Bridgewater, Somerset, New Jersey, Roll: 259, Page: 146). This family matches up with this Soloman Marsh, head of household. M under 5: 1 M 5-10: 1 M 20-30: 1 F under 5: 1 F 20-30: 1 He is listed as JR in the census to distinguish him from Solomon H. Marsh SR (1790-1872) who m. Fanny Brown (1794-1852) in 1812. He was s/o Solomon H. Marsh (another!) and Violetta Morgan (unverified, see way below), and she was d/o Philip Brown and Ann Harned (probably correct, see The Harneds of North America). Their family was: (1) 1 ? Solomon Hunt Marsh Sr. (5 Jan 1790 - 10 Jul 1872) & Fanny Brown (17 Dec 1794 - 14 Aug 1852) | (2) 1.1 Anna Marsh (1828 - ) | (2) 1.2 Mary Marsh (1831 - ) | (2) 1.3 Sarah Ann Marsh (1838 - ) (Note: birth dates are based on censuses, and compared against the above Solomon H. Marsh). In the 1830 Federal Census for NJ (Perth Amboy, Middlesex, New Jersey, Roll: 83, Page: 171) Soloman H. Marsh M under 5: 1 M 5-10: 2 M 10-15: 1 M 40-50: 1 F under 5: 1 F 30-40: 2 I am pretty sure that Solomon H. Marsh JR is NOT the son of Solomon H. Marsh SR unless SR was married quite young and his wife died. That is unlikely because in the 1830 census, on the same page, two lines below Solomon H. Marsh SR is Joseph Marsh, with the following family. Joseph Marsh M 10-15: 2 M 20-29: 2 M 60-69: 1 F 5-9: 1 F 15-19: 2 F 20-29: 1 F 50-59: 1 This would be the more obvious conclusion. My query is obviously, can anyone help? I sort of think the Solomon H. SR and Joseph were brothers (or at least cousins) but cannot go further back. The person between the two Marsh men in 1830 was Cornelius Harned, 1st cousin to Fanny, Solomon SR's wife. Any wild ideas? I just don't think that Solomon SR was the father of Solomon JR because the date of birth for SR is 1790 and for JR 1810, with a marriage of SR in 1812. Michel Metford-Platt PS, from a previous listing on Marsh, in Essex, I have found the following in the Marsh List Archives (have put the names Solomon Marsh and Joseph Marsh in CAPS): (note: if these two Marshes below are the right family, then their father would be Joseph Marsh, and mother Letitia Marsh (which is her maiden name), Joseph being s/o John Marsh and Catherine Hunt) Can anyone clarify the relationship, if any between the Daniel Marsh, d. 1802, Ralph Marsh, d. 1800, and Benjamin A. Brown, all of Middlesex Co., NJ? For details, the following is extracted from "Gateway to the West, Vol. I, Licking Co., Partition Records 1816-1830". Spelling errors have been retained; note the use of "March" and "Marrah" for "Marsh". The extracts appear to describe four different lawsuits relating to land in Licking Co., OH. Wilson DeCamp Vienna, VA 5-9-1522 - Mary DECAMP vs. Benjamin A. BROWN and others. Filed 10-26-1820. Daniel MARSH, dec'd, late of Rahway, Essex Co., New Jersey, died Intestate in 1802. Land, 4000 acres, 1st quarter, Township 2, Range 15, military lands; that Daniel Marsh in his lifetime with wife Esther, deeded on 6-2-1800 one-third part to Benjamin A. Brown of Woodbridge, Middlesex Co., New Jersey and one-third part to Ralph Marsh of New Jersey. Daniel Marsh left six children: Mary wife of Job DeCamp, Job being dec'd, of Middlesex Co., N.J.; Anna wife of Thomas Edger of Middlesex Co., N.J.; Sarah wife of Robert Clarkson of Middlesex Co., N.J.; Daniel Marsh Jr., dec'd, his three children--Elias Marsh, George Taylor Marsh (res. unknown) and Rachel Burnet Marsh of New York City; William Ralph Marsh, dec'd, his four children--Anna Marsh, John Ralph Marsh, Noah Marsh and Daniel Marsh (res. unknown); Elizabeth Marsh wife of Jacob Marsh, both dec'd, her four children--Mary Shute, a widow of New York City, Noah Marsh, Ester wife of Lewis Prall, both of Bridgetown, Essex Co., N.J. and Anna Eliza wife of John Payne of Middlesex Co., N.J. (55) (note: see also pages 65, 97 and 104; some of the data does not agree, but has been given as given in the record.) 12-18-1822 - Thomas EDGAR and Anna EDGAR vs. Benjamin A. BROWN and others. Filed 5-10-1822. (note: See page 55, essentially same as this entry; also see pages 97 and 124 for further record). (66) 5-14-1827 - William STANBERY and Amos H. CAFFEE vs. Benjamin A. BROWN. Filed 8-11-1826. Daniel March, dec'd. (97) (note see pages 55, 66 & 124) 2-26-1829 - Benjamin A. BROWN and Heirs of Ralph MARSH, dec'd vs. Samuel PURDY, et al. Filed 6-7-1828. Land, (see description of land given on page 35); that Daniel Marsh and wife Esther deeded part of said land to Ralph Marsh by deed dated 6-2-1800. That Ralph Marsh, died Oct. 1800 in Rahway, Essex Co., New Jersey, leaving 10 children: Lewis R. Marsh of Richmond Co., New York; Sidney Marsh of Gettysburg, Pa.; John Marsh of Gettysburg, Pa.; George Marsh of Gettysburg, Pa.; Rebecca Frame, late Marsh of Baltimore, Md.; Mary Decamp formerly Marsh, wife of Aaron Decamp of Haverstraw, New York Catharine formerly Marsh, wife of Ephraim Gillmore of New Garden, Pa.; Ann formerly Marsh, wife of Cornelius E. Price of Essex Co., N. J.; Elizabeth Marsh of Rahway, Essex Co., N. J.; and Letitia Marsh, dec'd, her six children--Fanny Thompson formerly Marsh, Caroline Moore formerly Marsh, John Marsh, Nathan Marsh, JOSEPH MARSH and SOLOMON MARSH, all of Middlesex and Essex Cos., N. J. That Daniel Marsh died in 1802 intestate leaving widow, Esther Marsh and 6 children & Mary widow of Job DeCamp, dec'd; Ann wife of Thomas Edgar; Sarah wife of Robert Clarkson; Elizabeth, late Marsh wife of Jacob Marsh, both dec'd, their four children--Mary wife of Samuel Purdy of New York City, Anna Eliza wife of John Payne of Middlesex Co. N. J., Esther wife of Lewis Prall-Esther since died leaving 3 children Charlotte, Isaac and Heater Pral of Essex Co. N. J., Noah Warren Marrah-Noah since died intestate leaving 2 children George D. and Jacob S. Marsh of New York City; Daniel Marsh Jr., died intestate leaving 3 children--Elias Marsh, George Taylor Marsh, and Rachel Barnet Marsh wife of Thomas D. Smith of New York City; William Ralph Marsh, dec'd, died intestate leaving 4 children--Ann Marsh, John Ralph Marsh, Noah Marsh and Daniel Marsh. (124) (note: see pages 55, 66 & 97)