Hi Ann Marie If you go to the GSNJ website and to the Legislative Alerts page, that will take you to a sample letter. www.gsnj.org There is also a link from the Legislative Alerts page that will take you to a page with more information on the bill and contact information for the sponsors of the bill. That link is the one that says GSNJ Position & Recommendations. Hope that is what you want. Regards, Joan Joan M. Lowry mailto:jmlowry@earthlink.net > -----Original Message----- > From: Bracca@aol.com [mailto:Bracca@aol.com] > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 9:15 PM > To: NJ-GSNJ-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GSNJ] NJ Vitals > > > SOMEBODY, SEND ME A DRAFT OF THE LETTER! I HAVE NOT BEEN > ONLINE DUE TO > ILLNESS IN THE FAMILY AND DO NOT KNOW THE DETAILS OF THIS. I > WOULD LIKE TO SEND AN > EMAIL ASAP!!!! > > IS THIS ABOUT MONEY? OR SECURITY? WHAT IS IT? > > ANN MARIE > > >
Try this: www.state.nj.us/governor/govmail.html Also, Google NJ State Government and play with that. Ann Marie
SOMEBODY, SEND ME A DRAFT OF THE LETTER! I HAVE NOT BEEN ONLINE DUE TO ILLNESS IN THE FAMILY AND DO NOT KNOW THE DETAILS OF THIS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEND AN EMAIL ASAP!!!! IS THIS ABOUT MONEY? OR SECURITY? WHAT IS IT? ANN MARIE
Corzine,Governor Category: Uncategorized Email Other E-Mail: _www.state.nj.us/governor/govmail.html_ (http://www.state.nj.us/governor/govmail.html) In a message dated 2/13/2006 6:01:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, NAAHKITTY@aol.com writes: Does anyone have an actual email address for the Governor? I have tried numerous times to send a message thru the website previously posted. Even though my message is long at 8,601 characters. It is below the 10,000 limit they set. I keep getting an error message stating the message is longer than the allowed limit. Thanks Laurie ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== GSNJ Home Page: http://www.gsnj.org ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx George Bernard Shaw If you cannot get rid of the family skeleton, you may as well make it dance.
Does anyone have an actual email address for the Governor? I have tried numerous times to send a message thru the website previously posted. Even though my message is long at 8,601 characters. It is below the 10,000 limit they set. I keep getting an error message stating the message is longer than the allowed limit. Thanks Laurie
I just did a google search for the NJ governor and got his site. There was a place there to contact him. Thats where I wrote my letter. Maryann Clark NAAHKITTY@aol.com wrote: Does anyone have an actual email address for the Governor? I have tried numerous times to send a message thru the website previously posted. Even though my message is long at 8,601 characters. It is below the 10,000 limit they set. I keep getting an error message stating the message is longer than the allowed limit. Thanks Laurie ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== GSNJ Home Page: http://www.gsnj.org ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx --------------------------------- What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos
This email letter would be a good one to send to the assembly women who are trying to pass this bill into law. Maryann Clark curtw@comcast.net wrote: There have been several panics on other message boards concerning the availability of vital records on the internet, in particular when California made some records available. Concerning Robert Raffords article. Restricting access to vital records will do nothing to eliminate the insider theft of records. In cases where proof of identity is legitimately required, only certified documents should be accepted. This simple step eliminates the problem with uncertified copies. Those who claim copies of vital records have led to identity theft should be required to document individual cases. If it is so common there should be numerous court cases. I have not heard of any. The cases I have heard of have been the result of theft from or hacking of computer databases of financial institutions. This law does nothing to solve that problem. Curt Miller -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Mert & Holly Kilpatrick" > Here is a very interesting article on Identity Theft and Vital Records by > Bob Rafford. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ctpgc/IDTheft.html > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bracca@aol.com [mailto:Bracca@aol.com] > > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 12:42 PM > > To: NJ-GSNJ-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [GSNJ] NJ Vitals > > > > Unfortunately, new identities are created from vital statistics. That is a > > fact. If vitals are sealed, there will always be a way for crooks to get > > into > > them, and the rest of us who are honest searchers will be left paying mega > > dollars to those who have access. There are always those who have access. > > > > Ann Marie > > > ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== > GSNJ Newsletter: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsnj/newsletter.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== Visit our Collections Guide: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsnj/collectionguide.html ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.
You're very welcome Joan -- it's my pleasure. And my Thanks also, to all who are taking up the fight!! It's hard enough, from out here in WA. to get info on my NJ roots - without the gov't adding their "spin". :)) Keep well all -- Terri
There have been several panics on other message boards concerning the availability of vital records on the internet, in particular when California made some records available. Concerning Robert Raffords article. Restricting access to vital records will do nothing to eliminate the insider theft of records. In cases where proof of identity is legitimately required, only certified documents should be accepted. This simple step eliminates the problem with uncertified copies. Those who claim copies of vital records have led to identity theft should be required to document individual cases. If it is so common there should be numerous court cases. I have not heard of any. The cases I have heard of have been the result of theft from or hacking of computer databases of financial institutions. This law does nothing to solve that problem. Curt Miller -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Mert & Holly Kilpatrick" <kilpatrk@epix.net> > Here is a very interesting article on Identity Theft and Vital Records by > Bob Rafford. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ctpgc/IDTheft.html > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bracca@aol.com [mailto:Bracca@aol.com] > > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 12:42 PM > > To: NJ-GSNJ-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [GSNJ] NJ Vitals > > > > Unfortunately, new identities are created from vital statistics. That is a > > fact. If vitals are sealed, there will always be a way for crooks to get > > into > > them, and the rest of us who are honest searchers will be left paying mega > > dollars to those who have access. There are always those who have access. > > > > Ann Marie > > > ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== > GSNJ Newsletter: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsnj/newsletter.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >
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Rafford made some things very clear. Thanks for bringing it up. Ann Marie
Here is a very interesting article on Identity Theft and Vital Records by Bob Rafford. http://www.rootsweb.com/~ctpgc/IDTheft.html > -----Original Message----- > From: Bracca@aol.com [mailto:Bracca@aol.com] > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 12:42 PM > To: NJ-GSNJ-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GSNJ] NJ Vitals > > Unfortunately, new identities are created from vital statistics. That is a > fact. If vitals are sealed, there will always be a way for crooks to get > into > them, and the rest of us who are honest searchers will be left paying mega > dollars to those who have access. There are always those who have access. > > Ann Marie
Unfortunately, new identities are created from vital statistics. That is a fact. If vitals are sealed, there will always be a way for crooks to get into them, and the rest of us who are honest searchers will be left paying mega dollars to those who have access. There are always those who have access. Ann Marie
Please draft a sample letter to Governor Corzine of NJ on this matter. Your point is well taken. Ann Marie
The vital statistics you refer to are from dead people, so technically they aren't vital at all. That's a fact as well. I can make up statistics off the top of my head, and they will have just as much validity as the statistics for a dead person- absolutely none at all. This bill is ridiculous, and I applaud and support any efforts to, so to speak, kill it. Matt -----Original Message----- From: Bracca@aol.com [mailto:Bracca@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 9:42 AM To: NJ-GSNJ-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GSNJ] NJ Vitals Unfortunately, new identities are created from vital statistics. That is a fact. If vitals are sealed, there will always be a way for crooks to get into them, and the rest of us who are honest searchers will be left paying mega dollars to those who have access. There are always those who have access. Ann Marie ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== GSNJ Home Page: http://www.gsnj.org ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx
Dear Joan, I did a google search for the governor of NJ and was able to send him a email from his site regarding this matter, and I urge all on our list to do the same. Little by little our rights are being taken away from us. We have to stand togeather and protest this kind of government. In my letter to him I told him as genealogists if this information were to be sealed it would bring our research to a screeching holt. And as NJ is one of the original Colonies it is even more important that we be able to have access to this information. I'm all the way in California, but those of you in NJ might consider protesting outside these offices to obtain more public awareness. Also talk to someone at your local newspaper office and try to get an artical published. I hope all of you will do what ever you can to stop this from moving forward. Maryann Clark "Joan M Lowry (GSNJ)" <jml-gsnj@earthlink.net> wrote: Hi Maryann & list My understanding is that the Freedom of Information Act actually applies to Federal Records and doesn't apply to records created by an individual state or county. However, NJ has an Open Public Records Act (OPRA) that functions in much the same way. This bill would remove vital records from those records to which OPRA regulations apply. That's one reason it is a bad piece of legislation - and could leave us on a slippery slope - once they do this to vital records, then why not some other records? What if they decided to close wills and estate files next, for instance! I have hope that the legislators will hear our pleas and be open to correcting the language of the bill. Certainly they'll know we're upset! They had suggested before that they might be open to changing the language - so let's hope they still are. Regards, Joan Joan M. Lowry mailto:jmlowry@earthlink.net > -----Original Message----- > From: maryann clark [mailto:mrmc4540@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 1:23 PM > To: NJ-GSNJ-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GSNJ] NJ Vitals > > > I don't understand how they can do this. What happened to > the " Freedom of Information Act " ???? > > Maryann Clark > ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== Save the Date!!! Save the Date!!! Save the Date!!! GSNJ 2006 Spring Conference -- Saturday, June 3rd ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx --------------------------------- What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos
Hi Terri, I did a google search for the governor of NJ and on his site there is a place one can contact him. I wrote him a letter concerning the closure of information in his state. I recommend all to do the same. Maryann Clark Terri <taire@webtv.net> wrote: On the off chance some of you don't have this -- here's the Governor's email www.state.nj.us/governor/govmail.html ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== Save the Date!!! Save the Date!!! Save the Date!!! GSNJ 2006 Spring Conference -- Saturday, June 3rd ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.
On the off chance some of you don't have this -- here's the Governor's email www.state.nj.us/governor/govmail.html
Hi Maryann & list My understanding is that the Freedom of Information Act actually applies to Federal Records and doesn't apply to records created by an individual state or county. However, NJ has an Open Public Records Act (OPRA) that functions in much the same way. This bill would remove vital records from those records to which OPRA regulations apply. That's one reason it is a bad piece of legislation - and could leave us on a slippery slope - once they do this to vital records, then why not some other records? What if they decided to close wills and estate files next, for instance! I have hope that the legislators will hear our pleas and be open to correcting the language of the bill. Certainly they'll know we're upset! They had suggested before that they might be open to changing the language - so let's hope they still are. Regards, Joan Joan M. Lowry mailto:jmlowry@earthlink.net > -----Original Message----- > From: maryann clark [mailto:mrmc4540@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 1:23 PM > To: NJ-GSNJ-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GSNJ] NJ Vitals > > > I don't understand how they can do this. What happened to > the " Freedom of Information Act " ???? > > Maryann Clark >
Hi Folks Thank you all for writing letters, etc. and for getting the word out to other lists and other places. I've been hearing from people who have seen "my" post on lists I've never even heard of! We are definitely getting a lot of support. I hope the legislators have to dedicate an assistant just to opening our mail. GSNJ is working with historical groups in NJ (as well as other genealogical societies) and they are interested in helping out. As you know - this would have a serious impact on historical research as well. I know they are interested and responsive to our concerns. We will keep you posted whenever we hear something new - good or bad, but let's hope for good! Enjoy the rest of your weekend - and, for those of you in NJ, don't shovel too hard!! (I'm hearing that at least 12 inches of snow are expected for the total for our area by Sunday afternoon.... (It'll take me till Monday to get my car out of the driveway!)) Regards, Joan Joan M. Lowry mailto:jmlowry@earthlink.net