These two webpages have links to many vital records that are available online. Some (eg., AZ, NM) even have the original certificates scanned in. http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/deathrecords.html http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/vitalrecords.html And speaking of Michigan, the deaths are online through 1897 here: http://www.mdch.state.mi.us/pha/osr/gendisx/search2.htm and Branch County even has an index online that goes to the present date: http://www.co.branch.mi.us/deathsearch.taf Gary

Hi Barbara, I got a phone call today from Assemblyman Penacchio's office. His aide thinks the bill has not been posted because Speaker Roberts has some concerns with it. I called Robert's office-after e-mailing him my concerns and the West Virginia info-and no one there had any information to impart. They did assure me the Speaker would read my e-mail. After that, I called the Family History Center in Utah and let them know about this bill. They told me they have Vital Records up to 1900 for NJ. I asked the gentleman did he think they'd have to pull those records if this bill passed and he said he wasn't sure. Then I called the State Archives and was told unofficially that-and this is strictly office chatter-another bill was being drafted that would transfer the Vital Records to the Archives. The young lady didn't know any particulars. Like I said, "it might have just been a rumor." That's about it for now. Mike

Just in case there is anyone out there waiting to see how today's phone call went to the Quigley office ... it didn't...yet. I've asked Joan Lowry to make the call because she is more knowledgeable about the intricacies of the bill and will be able to answer any questions with far better than I. She will call in the morning. So, continue to stay tuned. Barbara Terri wrote: > Joan -- > > I haven't seen any mention of this issue on the > H-NEW-JERSEY@H-NET.MSU.EDU pages. > > For those who may not be acquainted with this list - and I won't be able > to explain it fully -- it's a mail list of educators, historians, > authors, etc., posting news of meetings, asking questions regarding > historical projects - such as books they're writing, etc., even college > folks asking for help with assignments and/or thesis'. > > I'm not sure I could post an effective, eloquent enough message - as I'm > none of the above. Would you consider posting this news to that list? > > There's some pretty powerful folks on this list. > Thank you - Terri > > > ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== > GSNJ Home Page: > http://www.gsnj.org > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > -- Enjoy serenity and beauty in secluded, forested acres at The Little Cabin in the Woods on Sheepscot Pond in Palermo, Maine. Call 908-464-6998 or email barbabcock@comcast.net for details. www.cyberrentals.com property # 107573 or http://vrbo.com/56397

Sorry, the entire blog can be accessed at www.eogn.com. I just tried it and it worked. GmDjones51@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 2/21/2006 12:18:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, > barbabcock@comcast.net writes: > (/blog.eogn.com/ > This address doesn't work. > > > ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== > GSNJ Home Page: > http://www.gsnj.org > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > -- Enjoy serenity and beauty in secluded, forested acres at The Little Cabin in the Woods on Sheepscot Pond in Palermo, Maine. Call 908-464-6998 or email barbabcock@comcast.net for details. www.cyberrentals.com property # 107573 or http://vrbo.com/56397

Found it. Thanks Mike

Try this url http://blog.eogn.com/ The article on Eastman's blog is entitled: "Information Is Power" On 2/21/06, GmDjones51@aol.com <GmDjones51@aol.com> wrote: > In a message dated 2/21/2006 12:18:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, > barbabcock@comcast.net writes: > (/blog.eogn.com/ > This address doesn't work. > > > ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== > GSNJ Home Page: > http://www.gsnj.org > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

In a message dated 2/21/2006 12:18:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, barbabcock@comcast.net writes: (/blog.eogn.com/ This address doesn't work.

There is an interesting article in today's Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter, all about the closing of vital records to the public due to identity theft and concerns about terrorism. Here is a link to the newsletter for those who are not familiar with it (/blog.eogn.com/) and here is a link to the original article for those who want to get right to the point (www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/2488/). And, yes, I am forwarding the article to the Quigley camp. Barbara

I think that's a very good idea. I'll probably send the Michigan info to the bill's sponsors tomorrow. Thanks for the suggestion. Mike

Hope this isn't cross posting inapprpriately. Sent the following to the NJ-L list earlier. Perhaps we should tell the NJ lawmakers what other states are doing concerning vital records. Laurie Beth Roman Like this press release from back in November: Genealogists with West Virginia Roots Score Big Time State puts free database of vital records online Salt Lake City, Utah-Thanks to the help of FamilySearch Archive (Genealogy Society of Utah), searching those elusive ancestors with West Virginian origins or connections may now be just a mouse click away. FamilySearch scanned and indexed the records and the West Virginia Division of Culture and History is hosting them online. The free database consists of millions of West Virginia births, deaths, and marriages-a goldmine for genealogists and historians. Researchers and curiosity seekers can now search and view scanned images of original birth, death, and marriage records from six counties, as well as most statewide death certificates from 1917-54 at www.wvculture.org/vrr. The database has over 3.5 million names linked to 1.4 million original images of birth, marriage, and death records from Calhoun, Gilmer, Hardy, Harrison, Mineral and Pendleton counties. The record dates vary by county and type of record, but typically range from 1816 to 1929. Birth records are for the period 1853-1930, county death records for 1853-1969/1970, and county marriage records from the creation of the county until the late 1960s, all of which are searchable by name, county, and date. FamilySearch filmed, scanned, and created the automatic index at the heart of the online database. Paul Nauta, manager of Public Affairs for FamilySearch said, "Birth, marriage, and death records together in a single database are particularly attractive to researchers because multiple generations of ancestors can be found on one document, and you can track their growth and whereabouts over time as noted by births, marriages, and deaths in the family." All users have to do is type in an ancestor's name to search the free database. They can also view a high quality, scanned image of the original document. The project required 2,500 volunteers and 64,000 hours to complete. West Virginia plans to add records from additional counties in the future. FamilySearch is a nonprofit entity committed to preserving and increasing access to vital records of genealogical significance and producing high-quality products and services for the family historian. FamilySearch maintains the world's largest repository of genealogical resources with vital records from over 110 countries, territories, and possessions and provides free access through FamilySearch.org, the Family History Library in Salt Lake City, and over 5000 branches (family history centers) in 70 countries.

Perhaps, your e-mail should be forwarded to those proposing the NJ bill. GInni -----Original Message----- From: GmDjones51@aol.com [mailto:GmDjones51@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 7:18 PM To: NJ-GSNJ-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Michigan Genealogical Records An interesting turn of events. Here we are in NJ trying to close off our Vital Records and a Senator in Michigan has proposed a bill to turn theirs over to the State Library of Michigan to facilitate genealogical research. Wouldn't it be nice if our legislators were as forward thinking? Mike To all genealogists living in Michigan. Please write your State Representative and urge him or her to support Senate Bill 0795 which would allow the State Registrar's Office to release certain vital records over 75 years old to the State Library of Michigan in order to be made available to the public and aid genealogical research. See the following for the text of the bill as it was passed by the State Senate: http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(b05te445dkzcrmawzrybyb45)/mileg.aspx?page=Bil lS tatus&objectname=2005-SB-0795 ______________________________

Terri, my reply to your post was returned to me. The error message said your mail box was full. So, next time you check your mail you might be able to see this reply via the list. We're in the middle of the process. It was only last Friday that I tried to contact the Assembly woman's office. Today is Monday and a holiday. We'll see what happens by the end of tomorrow. We need to give her staff office time to look at the GSNJ site, understand all our concerns and formulate a response. As it is, expecting them to respond to our concerns within one business day might be pushy. A busy legislative office might have more than just our concerns to tend to. On the other hand, ... how long does it take to schedule a meeting??? I am feeling confident that Quigley's office will either meet with us or have addressed our concerns without a meeting (which I suspect is what they might try to do in order to save themselves time.) Stay tuned. Barbara Terri wrote: Hi Barbara - I'm curious to know if you ever got an answer to your question about this A1390 thing. And if so, were you able to address the assemblywoman you're volunteering for about it? That would be a huge move for "the cause" ---- and thank you for offering to do it. Terri -- Enjoy serenity and beauty in secluded, forested acres at The Little Cabin in the Woods on Sheepscot Pond in Palermo, Maine. Call 908-464-6998 or email barbabcock@comcast.net for details. www.cyberrentals.com property # 107573 or http://vrbo.com/56397

Hi, Yes, it is. I haven't read it yet, but plan on doing so today. Mike

This the pages of the bill in Senate of Michigan http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(b05te445dkzcrmawzrybyb45)/mileg.aspx?page=BillStatus&objectname=2005-SB-0795&queryid=12829812 ----- Original Message ----- From: <GmDjones51@aol.com> To: <NJ-GSNJ-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 5:18 PM Subject: [GSNJ] Michigan Genealogical Records > An interesting turn of events. > > Here we are in NJ trying to close off our Vital Records and a Senator in > Michigan has proposed a bill to turn theirs over to the State Library of Michigan > to facilitate genealogical research. > > Wouldn't it be nice if our legislators were as forward thinking? > > Mike > > To all genealogists living in Michigan. Please write your State > Representative and urge him or her to support Senate Bill 0795 which would allow the > State Registrar's Office to release certain vital records over 75 years old to the > State Library of Michigan in order to be made available to the public and aid > genealogical research. See the following for the text of the bill as it was > passed by the State Senate: > > http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(b05te445dkzcrmawzrybyb45)/mileg.aspx?page=BillS > tatus&objectname=2005-SB-0795 > > > ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== > GSNJ Newsletter: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsnj/newsletter.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

An interesting turn of events. Here we are in NJ trying to close off our Vital Records and a Senator in Michigan has proposed a bill to turn theirs over to the State Library of Michigan to facilitate genealogical research. Wouldn't it be nice if our legislators were as forward thinking? Mike To all genealogists living in Michigan. Please write your State Representative and urge him or her to support Senate Bill 0795 which would allow the State Registrar's Office to release certain vital records over 75 years old to the State Library of Michigan in order to be made available to the public and aid genealogical research. See the following for the text of the bill as it was passed by the State Senate: http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(b05te445dkzcrmawzrybyb45)/mileg.aspx?page=BillS tatus&objectname=2005-SB-0795

Does anyone know where one can find records of an indentured apprentiship in 19th century Somerset County or NYC? I believe my great grandparents were bound out as children to families in Millstone, NJ. According to the book, "Nineteenth Century Apprentices in New York City," by Kenneth Scott, William Pender was bound out to William and Frances Beardsley of Millstone in 1861 by the Commissioners of the Alms-House & Bridewell of New York. A Mary Kelly (possibly my great grandmother) was bound out to Charles and Andromache Beardsley in 1853. The book states that reports from the town overseers may have information about the child. TIA, Lynda Bell Columbus, Ohio

Thank you Barbara, For the response and what you are doing. I certainly have learned a lot about how governments work and new laws being thought about. Julie B -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Babcock [mailto:barbabcock@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:27 AM To: NJ-GSNJ-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GSNJ] NJ-GSNJ and the weather channel Hi Julie and the rest of the list, I have also been watching the list and the growing storm. Before I wrote my letter to any legislators, however, I wanted to be very sure that I knew what I was saying. I'm also politically inclined and volunteering on the campaign of a local Assembly woman. My concern for our credibility grew along with the A1390 storm and I sought advice from an aid where I volunteer. That advice was to seek a meeting with the sponsor of the bill. So, yesterday I called Joan Quigley's office and was advised to send a fax requesting a meeting. The fax was created and sent requesting a meeting with Ms. Quigley, myself, Joan Lowry, and a representative of the Advocates for NJ History. I returned from an afternoon of volunteering with that local Assembly woman looking for a return fax, phone call or email from the Quigley office. There was none. So I called. Again. During the course of that conversation I recognized that some of the language had been changed on A1390 but that the genealogical community still had some concerns. I directed the aid to the GSNJ web site to read about our concerns and the suggested language changes needed to ameliorate them. The Quigley office are really very nice people. They are aware of our concerns and seem to be trying to address them. It would seem reasonable, at this point, to see what they have to say next week. Remember, Monday is a holiday and the legislature is in session on Mondays and Thursdays. This only gives us Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday for a meeting. However, I suspect that the bill sponsors need some time to learn of our concerns, consult with each other (there are two sponsors and a co-sponsor) and work on the language. They have heard us and now we need to give them some breathing space to work out a response. It looks good so let's wait and see what happens next. All my best, Barbara B. in Union County NJ kajbene wrote: > > Hi List, > I was just thinking how watching the events here compare with getting > ready for a hurricane here in NC, I find myself watching the weather > channel continuously. As the storm gets closer, the weather channel is > the major focus. So now for me NJ-GSNJ is my focus as the storm gets > closer. All the posts are very encouraging in that this is still a major > topic. Thank you for posting on this subject. > Julie B in NC > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Fenner [mailto:rjfenner@comcast.net] > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 1:10 PM > To: NJ-GSNJ-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GSNJ] FW: Assemblywoman Quigley's reply > > It is a good thing that an Assemblywomen courteously responded to a > constituent. It seems though that she is not following the GSNJ wording > recommendations. Perhaps she isn't aware of them. Might be a good idea > to > transmit them to her. > Bob Fenner, Marlton > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <AnnWicki@aol.com> > To: <NJ-GSNJ-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 12:51 PM > Subject: Re: [GSNJ] FW: Assemblywoman Quigley's reply > > > >> Joan: >> >> I am impressed with Assemblywoman Quigley's reply. >> >> I sent for my birth certificate and was required to send a copy of my >> driver's license. I didn't mind sending that. We do have to be on >> > our > >> guard. >> >> Ann in Farmingdale, NJ >> >> >> In a message dated 2/17/2006 12:37:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >> jmlowry@earthlink.net writes: >> >> Hello list >> >> Many thanks to Mike, who did get a reply from Assemblywoman Quigley's >> office, and forwarded it to us so we can all see it. The text of her >> response follows. >> >> As Mike pointed out - it is good, but can probably still be better. >> > Her > >> response still doesn't address the requirement that we not share the >> information and doesn't address any concerns about what years we >> > should > >> be able to access. But - the fact that she is planning to change the >> language is excellent and shows that all our hard work is paying off. >> >> Now, we just have to get them to word it right for us. >> >> Regards, >> Joan >> >> Joan M. Lowry >> mailto:jmlowry@earthlink.net >> >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: GmDjones51@aol.com [mailto:GmDjones51@aol.com] >>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 9:03 AM >>> To: jmlowry@earthlink.net >>> Subject: Assemblywoman Quigley's reply >>> >>> >>> Dear Mr. Jones: >>> >>> It was never our intent to make it difficult or impossible >>> for legitimate genealogists and family researchers to obtain >>> information about births and deaths. The attorneys who >>> drafted A-1390 had assured me the wording of the bill was >>> adequate to protect their interests and activities. >>> Nevertheless, there appears to be something of a panicked >>> reaction among people who fear their access to records will >>> be restricted. So I have directed that the bill be amended >>> to state expressly that copies of records are available to >>> researchers. However, such persons must submit an official >>> request so that record-keepers can record the names and >>> addresses of those who receive the records. >>> >>> I hope this amendment will satisfy everyone concerned - the >>> many who politely suggested changes and the few who >>> not-so-politely expressed their outrage. >>> >>> I wish you happy rooting in the past and even happier results. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> Joan M. Quigley >>> Assemblywoman >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> It is worthwhile for anyone to have behind him a few generations of >> honest, >> hard-working ancestry. >> - J. P. Marquand, 1893-1960 >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== >> Save the Date!!! Save the Date!!! Save the Date!!! >> GSNJ 2006 Spring Conference -- Saturday, June 3rd >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. 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Hi Julie and the rest of the list, I have also been watching the list and the growing storm. Before I wrote my letter to any legislators, however, I wanted to be very sure that I knew what I was saying. I'm also politically inclined and volunteering on the campaign of a local Assembly woman. My concern for our credibility grew along with the A1390 storm and I sought advice from an aid where I volunteer. That advice was to seek a meeting with the sponsor of the bill. So, yesterday I called Joan Quigley's office and was advised to send a fax requesting a meeting. The fax was created and sent requesting a meeting with Ms. Quigley, myself, Joan Lowry, and a representative of the Advocates for NJ History. I returned from an afternoon of volunteering with that local Assembly woman looking for a return fax, phone call or email from the Quigley office. There was none. So I called. Again. During the course of that conversation I recognized that some of the language had been changed on A1390 but that the genealogical community still had some concerns. I directed the aid to the GSNJ web site to read about our concerns and the suggested language changes needed to ameliorate them. The Quigley office are really very nice people. They are aware of our concerns and seem to be trying to address them. It would seem reasonable, at this point, to see what they have to say next week. Remember, Monday is a holiday and the legislature is in session on Mondays and Thursdays. This only gives us Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday for a meeting. However, I suspect that the bill sponsors need some time to learn of our concerns, consult with each other (there are two sponsors and a co-sponsor) and work on the language. They have heard us and now we need to give them some breathing space to work out a response. It looks good so let's wait and see what happens next. All my best, Barbara B. in Union County NJ kajbene wrote: > > Hi List, > I was just thinking how watching the events here compare with getting > ready for a hurricane here in NC, I find myself watching the weather > channel continuously. As the storm gets closer, the weather channel is > the major focus. So now for me NJ-GSNJ is my focus as the storm gets > closer. All the posts are very encouraging in that this is still a major > topic. Thank you for posting on this subject. > Julie B in NC > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Fenner [mailto:rjfenner@comcast.net] > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 1:10 PM > To: NJ-GSNJ-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GSNJ] FW: Assemblywoman Quigley's reply > > It is a good thing that an Assemblywomen courteously responded to a > constituent. It seems though that she is not following the GSNJ wording > recommendations. Perhaps she isn't aware of them. Might be a good idea > to > transmit them to her. > Bob Fenner, Marlton > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <AnnWicki@aol.com> > To: <NJ-GSNJ-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 12:51 PM > Subject: Re: [GSNJ] FW: Assemblywoman Quigley's reply > > > >> Joan: >> >> I am impressed with Assemblywoman Quigley's reply. >> >> I sent for my birth certificate and was required to send a copy of my >> driver's license. I didn't mind sending that. We do have to be on >> > our > >> guard. >> >> Ann in Farmingdale, NJ >> >> >> In a message dated 2/17/2006 12:37:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >> jmlowry@earthlink.net writes: >> >> Hello list >> >> Many thanks to Mike, who did get a reply from Assemblywoman Quigley's >> office, and forwarded it to us so we can all see it. The text of her >> response follows. >> >> As Mike pointed out - it is good, but can probably still be better. >> > Her > >> response still doesn't address the requirement that we not share the >> information and doesn't address any concerns about what years we >> > should > >> be able to access. But - the fact that she is planning to change the >> language is excellent and shows that all our hard work is paying off. >> >> Now, we just have to get them to word it right for us. >> >> Regards, >> Joan >> >> Joan M. Lowry >> mailto:jmlowry@earthlink.net >> >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: GmDjones51@aol.com [mailto:GmDjones51@aol.com] >>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 9:03 AM >>> To: jmlowry@earthlink.net >>> Subject: Assemblywoman Quigley's reply >>> >>> >>> Dear Mr. Jones: >>> >>> It was never our intent to make it difficult or impossible >>> for legitimate genealogists and family researchers to obtain >>> information about births and deaths. The attorneys who >>> drafted A-1390 had assured me the wording of the bill was >>> adequate to protect their interests and activities. >>> Nevertheless, there appears to be something of a panicked >>> reaction among people who fear their access to records will >>> be restricted. So I have directed that the bill be amended >>> to state expressly that copies of records are available to >>> researchers. However, such persons must submit an official >>> request so that record-keepers can record the names and >>> addresses of those who receive the records. >>> >>> I hope this amendment will satisfy everyone concerned - the >>> many who politely suggested changes and the few who >>> not-so-politely expressed their outrage. >>> >>> I wish you happy rooting in the past and even happier results. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> Joan M. Quigley >>> Assemblywoman >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> It is worthwhile for anyone to have behind him a few generations of >> honest, >> hard-working ancestry. >> - J. P. 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That’s what I thought. New Jersey drivers licenses had a reputation of being easy to forge. That is why they went to the new digital license. That problem is solved and this bill has nothing to do with drivers licenses. Curt Miller -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Robert Fenner" <rjfenner@comcast.net> > Probably Driver's Licenses. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 1:30 PM > Subject: Re: [GSNJ] We must calm ourselves > > > > What documents was he faking and what was he using as a pattern for the > > fake documents? > > > > Curt Miller > > > > > > > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > From: Bracca@aol.com > > > >> I keep watch on Paterson, having been born and raised there. A month or > >> two > >> after 9/11 they found a middle eastern man had been making fake > >> documents. > >> Believe it or not, he got almost no jail time. I think that was when they > >> created > >> identity requirements. > >> > >> Now they have to change the laws and prosecute forgers and identity > >> thieves > >> easier and give them more stringent punishement - fines as well as jail > >> time. > >> Take all assets as they do others who push drugs. > >> > >> Thanks for the info. > >> > >> Ann Marie > >> > >> > >> ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== > >> Visit our Collections Guide: > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsnj/collectionguide.html > >> > >> ============================== > >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >> > > > > > > ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== > > Genealogical Magazine of New Jersey: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsnj/genmag.html > > > > ============================== > > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > > ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== > Save the Date!!! Save the Date!!! Save the Date!!! > GSNJ 2006 Spring Conference -- Saturday, June 3rd > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

Hi List, I was just thinking how watching the events here compare with getting ready for a hurricane here in NC, I find myself watching the weather channel continuously. As the storm gets closer, the weather channel is the major focus. So now for me NJ-GSNJ is my focus as the storm gets closer. All the posts are very encouraging in that this is still a major topic. Thank you for posting on this subject. Julie B in NC -----Original Message----- From: Robert Fenner [mailto:rjfenner@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 1:10 PM To: NJ-GSNJ-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GSNJ] FW: Assemblywoman Quigley's reply It is a good thing that an Assemblywomen courteously responded to a constituent. It seems though that she is not following the GSNJ wording recommendations. Perhaps she isn't aware of them. Might be a good idea to transmit them to her. Bob Fenner, Marlton ----- Original Message ----- From: <AnnWicki@aol.com> To: <NJ-GSNJ-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [GSNJ] FW: Assemblywoman Quigley's reply > > > Joan: > > I am impressed with Assemblywoman Quigley's reply. > > I sent for my birth certificate and was required to send a copy of my > driver's license. I didn't mind sending that. We do have to be on our > guard. > > Ann in Farmingdale, NJ > > > In a message dated 2/17/2006 12:37:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > jmlowry@earthlink.net writes: > > Hello list > > Many thanks to Mike, who did get a reply from Assemblywoman Quigley's > office, and forwarded it to us so we can all see it. The text of her > response follows. > > As Mike pointed out - it is good, but can probably still be better. Her > response still doesn't address the requirement that we not share the > information and doesn't address any concerns about what years we should > be able to access. But - the fact that she is planning to change the > language is excellent and shows that all our hard work is paying off. > > Now, we just have to get them to word it right for us. > > Regards, > Joan > > Joan M. Lowry > mailto:jmlowry@earthlink.net > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: GmDjones51@aol.com [mailto:GmDjones51@aol.com] >> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 9:03 AM >> To: jmlowry@earthlink.net >> Subject: Assemblywoman Quigley's reply >> > >> >> Dear Mr. Jones: > >> It was never our intent to make it difficult or impossible >> for legitimate genealogists and family researchers to obtain >> information about births and deaths. The attorneys who >> drafted A-1390 had assured me the wording of the bill was >> adequate to protect their interests and activities. >> Nevertheless, there appears to be something of a panicked >> reaction among people who fear their access to records will >> be restricted. So I have directed that the bill be amended >> to state expressly that copies of records are available to >> researchers. However, such persons must submit an official >> request so that record-keepers can record the names and >> addresses of those who receive the records. > >> I hope this amendment will satisfy everyone concerned - the >> many who politely suggested changes and the few who >> not-so-politely expressed their outrage. > >> I wish you happy rooting in the past and even happier results. >> >> Sincerely, >> Joan M. Quigley >> Assemblywoman > > > > > > > > It is worthwhile for anyone to have behind him a few generations of > honest, > hard-working ancestry. > - J. P. Marquand, 1893-1960 > > > > > > ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== > Save the Date!!! Save the Date!!! Save the Date!!! > GSNJ 2006 Spring Conference -- Saturday, June 3rd > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== GSNJ Newsletter: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsnj/newsletter.html ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.8/260 - Release Date: 2/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.8/260 - Release Date: 2/14/2006