Genealogy is directly connected to history for a great number of reasons including occupations, wars, and even blizzards that our ancestors had to experience. One such event was the great blizzard that hit much of the northeastern portion of the United States and some of Canada. Here are some highlights of the blizzard: * It hit the area on Monday night 12, 1888, and caught most people and businesses off guard. * Accompanying the storm was rain rapidly dropping temperatures that sunk to below zero. Snow fell fast and caught most people by surprise, especially in NJ because everyone thought it would hit farther north. By Tuesday morning people could not reach their jobs or stores. Visibility was awful. Men's beards and whiskers froze with ice and snow on them. * Trains were unable to go far before realizing the tracks were too covered for progress far so the people on those trains were locked in with limited food. Families share what they had brought with them. * The winds blew at 35-50 miles per hour. People could not get to their jumps in cities because the walks and roads were not cleared. Most people were inadequately dressed to withstand the temperatures. NJ was not hit quite as hard as NY City and upstate New York. The source of this information is HISTORY MAGAZINE, Mary 2006. Did any of your ancestors pass down through the generations to you any of their experiences during the winter of 1888? Ken

Joan, I have written her electronically, and have asked her to please reply to our NJ email groups. I told her I was writing for the New Jersey Genealogy Society. I gave her the following web addresses. NJ-L@rootsweb.com and njessex@rootsweb.com Regards. Mary Ann Clark Joan M Lowry <jmlowry@earthlink.net> wrote: Hi All Just a quick update on where we stand on Assembly Bill 1390 now. A new Assemblywoman has recently signed on to co-sponsor this bill. So - we can use your help again. Please contact Assemblywoman Valerie Vainieri Huttle - send a letter and / or email and / or phone call. Let her know of our concerns about this bill. Her contact information is: Assemblywoman Valerie Vainieri Huttle, 1 Engle St, Suite 104 Englewood NJ 07631 Tel: 201-541-1118 Fax: 201-541-1071 This link will take you to her Legislative Page, in case you prefer to contact her electronically. Click on "Contact your Legislator" to get to the email function. Please let her know about your reservations about this bill and ask her to support the amended language suggested by GSNJ. As before, there are sample letters on our website and more information on the changes that we would like to see made to the bill. The direct link to the information is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsnj/legislation.html GSNJ and the Advocates for New Jersey History have a meeting scheduled with Assemblywoman Joan Quigley on Tuesday next week. We are hoping that we'll be able to see the proposed changes to the language either before or at the meeting. In the meantime, we'll be marshalling our resources so that we can best present our case to her in person. Regards, Joan Joan M. Lowry mailto:jmlowry@earthlink.net ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== Visit our Collections Guide: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsnj/collectionguide.html ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.

Hi All Just a quick update on where we stand on Assembly Bill 1390 now. A new Assemblywoman has recently signed on to co-sponsor this bill. So - we can use your help again. Please contact Assemblywoman Valerie Vainieri Huttle - send a letter and / or email and / or phone call. Let her know of our concerns about this bill. Her contact information is: Assemblywoman Valerie Vainieri Huttle, 1 Engle St, Suite 104 Englewood NJ 07631 Tel: 201-541-1118 Fax: 201-541-1071 This link will take you to her Legislative Page, in case you prefer to contact her electronically. <http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/members/vainieri.asp> Click on "Contact your Legislator" to get to the email function. Please let her know about your reservations about this bill and ask her to support the amended language suggested by GSNJ. As before, there are sample letters on our website and more information on the changes that we would like to see made to the bill. The direct link to the information is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsnj/legislation.html GSNJ and the Advocates for New Jersey History <www.NJHistoryAdvocates.org> have a meeting scheduled with Assemblywoman Joan Quigley on Tuesday next week. We are hoping that we'll be able to see the proposed changes to the language either before or at the meeting. In the meantime, we'll be marshalling our resources so that we can best present our case to her in person. Regards, Joan Joan M. Lowry mailto:jmlowry@earthlink.net

Do hope this falls into "appropriate" but must share. If any of you have, or think you have, ties to MA - check out the MA-BAY-COLONY-L list. John Slaughter is making plans/arrangements with and thru New England Historical and Genealogical Society (NEHGS) to provide the Tan Book, online and free. For any of you not familiar with the Tan Book, it's spoken of in "prayer-like" terms as THE source for early MA vital records. It's only in the planning stages just now, but sounds like it's gonna move ahead soon. It'll be a great source to have available. You can view the message at the MA-BAY-COLONY-L mail list archive for Sun., Mar. 12. Keep well all -- Terri

Terri, Thanks I will do just that. You are right. I have been in a very tantalizing and frusrating situation for several yearshunting for my William Newell. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terri" <taire@webtv.net> To: <NJ-GSNJ-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 6:57 AM Subject: [GSNJ] Newell folks > > Welcome Betty. > > You have the particular brick wall that drives us genealogists almost > "postal" - the one where there's just enough info to prove his/her > existance, but not quite the confirming data you need. > > A suggestion -- check the archives of the Burlington and Monmouth Co.s > mail lists. Also, since you're dealing with Mon. Co. pretty close to the > 1850's, you might want to peak at Ocean Co. archives as well, since > Ocean Co. sprang from Mon. in 1850. > > I've had a few good runs of luck by doing google searches -- play around > with your search words - try as many different phrases as you can think > of -- no matter how "impossible" it may seem. > > And, ofcourse, posting here is very good -- there's many very learned NJ > genealogists available to help ------ and they do!!!! > > Keep well -- Terri > > > ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== > Visit our Collections Guide: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsnj/collectionguide.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > !DSPAM:4412e58b453531344314935! > > >

The Burlington County Library has microfilm of the New Jersey Mirror and a number of Burlington County Newspapers. This site has an index to the New Jersey Mirror and a number of other newspapers. http://research.bcls.lib.nj.us/databases.phtml This site has birth, marriage, and death notices extracted from those and other Burlington County newspapers. There are not many births. The earliest date is 1807 but most are after 1850. http://sql.bcls.lib.nj.us/gen/ Curtis Miller

"Bible Records From the Monmouth County Historical Association Library" volume IV H-K, page 142 published by the Monmouth County Genealogy Society. "Aamand Cubberly departed this life July 5th AD 1869" I did not find a Catherine Cubberly or Amanda/Catherine Dey in my Master Index of the bible records. Check out our website for the complete list of our publications www.rootsweb.com/~njmcgs/ -- Beverly ----------------------Original Message--------------------- From: Bracca@aol.com [mailto:Bracca@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 10:09 AM That is a very important piece of information for my search for our gg grandmother, Amanda and/or Catherine Amanda Cubberly Dey, who ended up in Heightstown, NJ. I have been stumped on that one. -- Ann Marie

Stephanie, thanks for sharing this site. I have already saved it because occasionally I have found births in my Sherman family who must have at one time lived there. Ken > Just an FYI if you are interested in Ocean County info., I have a town > county formation page here specifically for Ocean County: > http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Enjocean/CountyTownFormation.html > > There are also links to surrounding counties of Monmouth and Burlington > on the same page. > > Hope this helps some of you. > > Stephanie Faycik > CC Ocean County GenWeb Project > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathy Swope" <swope@ptd.net> > To: <NJ-GSNJ-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 10:25 AM > Subject: NJ Counties > > >> Ken, >> >> Monmouth Co. was one of the original counties and covered a larger area >> than >> we know today. Ocean Co. was formed from Monmouth in 1850. >> >> The original counties were Bergen, Burlington, Cape May, Essex, >> Hunterdon, >> Middlesex, Monmouth, and Salem. Anyone researching other counties should >> be >> checking to see when those counties came into existence and the parent >> county or counties. >> >> Kathy >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ken Everard" <everardk@comcast.net> >> To: <NJ-GSNJ-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 10:13 AM >> Subject: Re: [GSNJ] Newell folks >> >> >>> It was my understanding that Monmouth came from Ocean County! >>> >>> Ken >>> >>> >>> > Hi Terri >>> > >>> > I did not know that Ocean came from Monmouth County. That is a very >>> > important >>> > piece of information for my search for our gg grandmother, Amanda >>> > and/or >>> > Catherine Amanda Cubberly Dey, who ended up in Heightstown, NJ. I >>> > have >>> > been >>> > stumped on that one. >>> > >>> > Betty, you found one of the best sources for your searching! GSNJ gave >> me >>> > information and leads that I never would have found on my own. THANKS, >>> > GSNJ! >>> > >>> > Ann Marie >>> > >>> > >>> > ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== >>> > GSNJ Newsletter: >>> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsnj/newsletter.html >>> > >>> > ============================== >>> > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >>> > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >>> > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== >>> GSNJ Home Page: >>> http://www.gsnj.org >>> >>> ============================== >>> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >>> >>> >> >> ______________________________ > > > ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== > Visit our Collections Guide: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsnj/collectionguide.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Just an FYI if you are interested in Ocean County info., I have a town county formation page here specifically for Ocean County: http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Enjocean/CountyTownFormation.html There are also links to surrounding counties of Monmouth and Burlington on the same page. Hope this helps some of you. Stephanie Faycik CC Ocean County GenWeb Project ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Swope" <swope@ptd.net> To: <NJ-GSNJ-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 10:25 AM Subject: NJ Counties > Ken, > > Monmouth Co. was one of the original counties and covered a larger area > than > we know today. Ocean Co. was formed from Monmouth in 1850. > > The original counties were Bergen, Burlington, Cape May, Essex, Hunterdon, > Middlesex, Monmouth, and Salem. Anyone researching other counties should > be > checking to see when those counties came into existence and the parent > county or counties. > > Kathy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ken Everard" <everardk@comcast.net> > To: <NJ-GSNJ-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 10:13 AM > Subject: Re: [GSNJ] Newell folks > > >> It was my understanding that Monmouth came from Ocean County! >> >> Ken >> >> >> > Hi Terri >> > >> > I did not know that Ocean came from Monmouth County. That is a very >> > important >> > piece of information for my search for our gg grandmother, Amanda >> > and/or >> > Catherine Amanda Cubberly Dey, who ended up in Heightstown, NJ. I have >> > been >> > stumped on that one. >> > >> > Betty, you found one of the best sources for your searching! GSNJ gave > me >> > information and leads that I never would have found on my own. THANKS, >> > GSNJ! >> > >> > Ann Marie >> > >> > >> > ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== >> > GSNJ Newsletter: >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsnj/newsletter.html >> > >> > ============================== >> > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >> > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== >> GSNJ Home Page: >> http://www.gsnj.org >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> > > ______________________________

Ken, I don't think the following pieces of information were mentioned earlier - I am reading this thread after it is all over. When I went to the Rutgers Special collections and asked about copies of old newspapers they gave me two sources to check. I just checked their online catalog and I think this is what they gave me. (If not, if you ask them they will help you.) 1. New Jersey newspapers and newspaper journalism : a bibliography Sinclair, Donald A. 1996 2. Newspaper holdings in selected New Jersey libraries / compiled by Elizabeth Griesbach. Publication info: [Bridgewater, N.J.? : Somerset County Library?], 1987. (I think this was just a typewritten list - the Somerset County Library doesn't have a copy in their catalog- so this may be the only copy extant.) The information was a little dated - some libraries had gotten rid of their collection and I had to track them down, but it was a great start. From my personal experience in tracking these things down: Monmouth County: The Red Bank Register is available at the Rutgers Library in New Brunswick (Alexander, in the microfilm section), right down the hall from Special Collections. Their copy starts with first publication, 1878. The Red Bank library also has a copy but I haven't used it there. I remember seeing in the above resources that the Asbury Park Press and the Asbury Library had back issues of the Asbury Park Press. I haven't been there but a web search tells me that the Asbury Park Library has the Asbury Park Press from 1876 and will do a look up for a fee of $5. http://www.asburyparklibrary.org/APPL-Special.htm I also remember seeing that Monmouth University has copies of some old papers - but their collection is closed right now. http://library.monmouth.edu/spcol/spcol.php The Matawan Library does have the index of births, deaths and marriages in hard copy and the Matawan Journal is available on microfilm. This index starts in 1869. (The NJ State Library also has a copy of the index in their collection.) I have called the Matawan Library and they have kindly looked up names in the index for me. Then I went there and looked up the article myself. http://www.lmxac.org/mata/ Somerset County The Bound Brook Library had microfilm of the Bound Brook Chronicle from the late 1800s. Unfortunately, they are closed right now for construction, so I can't check the dates. They are joining the Somerset County Library system. I hope they don't get rid of the microfilm. Somerset County Historical Society also has the Bound Brook Chronicle. They are open April to November in limited hours. I have heard that they have done look ups for people. I have found that the Somerset Messenger Gazette office has the best and oldest collection of microfilmed newspapers for Somerset County. As I remember, unlike many collections, theirs starts in the late 1770's or early 1800's but has many gaps. And obits were not published as routinely in the earlier years, so it may not be helpful. They are in Somerville NJ, and you need to visit during normal business hours. Their microfilm reader is very old, and they don't have a printer. (It would be great if someone would fund getting copies of their microfilms made so they would be more accessible or give them a new reader with a printer.) Middlesex County An index to the births and deaths in the New Brunswick Times has been published by the Somerset County Historical Society and is available for purchase in several volumes. http://home.earthlink.net/~schs/libraryPublications.htm Rutgers also has old issues of the New Brunswick papers - The Home News and The New Brunswick Times. But their collection of early papers has gaps - the New Brunswick Library has a more complete collection from the late 1800s with fewer gaps. (I can't check the dates since it is not in their catalog but I think they have most of what is indexed in the above mentioned publications.) http://www.gnb.ca/0003/index-e.asp Union County Plainfield has a great collection of the Courier News and also of Central Jersey Times, from as early as 1868. They will do look ups of obits - I have heard they charge $10. http://www.plainfieldlibrary.info/document.asp?doc_id=1008 More: The NJ Historical Society also has old newspapers, but theirs are hard copy and extremely difficult to use. They need to be ordered ahead of time. I remember that they had the Matawan Journal and a paper from Princeton. http://www.jerseyhistory.org/ The Newark Public Library has a New Jersey Collection with many old newspapers from Northern NJ, especially Newark. http://www.npl.org/Pages/Collections/njicnews1.html Princeton University also has papers from Princeton area. http://libweb.princeton.edu/ Other observations: Unfortunately, it seems that many papers in Central New Jersey did not start publishing (and/or being routinely saved) until after the Civil War. Pre-Civil war has many fewer resources available. For example, there supposedly was an early paper published near Matawan (earlier than the Matawan Journal), of which all copies have disappeared. Keep in mind that news coverage didn't follow county lines. The Union County Courier News often had obits from Somerset County and sometimes had obits from Hunterdon County. It depends on where their circulation was. And they would reprint stuff from each other. Formats were very different from today. There was no obit section - the death notices were sometimes sprinkled throughout the paper, and would be in different places every day. If you are searching, you need to keep a sharp eye. On the other hand, they often had gossip columns that can be useful. They may have said someone was visiting or ill or had left on a trip. They sometimes give names and places of relatives who are visiting. So, if you are searching, leave time for serendipitous discovery. Hope this helps. Karen Tibbals -----Original Message----- From: Michelle Chubenko [mailto:michelle@chubenko.us] Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 2:04 PM To: NJ-GSNJ-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GSNJ] Old Newspaper & Church Resources Ken, To add to Helen's wonderful list of links... New Jersey Newspapers on Microfilm - Monmouth Co. http://www.njarchives.org/links/newspaper-2.html#monmouth Also, you might want to take a look at the book "A Guide to Original and Copied Records of Religious Organizations Largely New Jersey Churches in the Special Collections and University Archives of Rutgers University" compiled by Donald A. Sinclair. Rutgers University catalog: http://www.iris.rutgers.edu Monmouth County -- 23 entries Ocean County -- 6 entries Don Sinclair's book can be found in these libraries... Location Library CA CARLSBAD CITY LIBR CA LOS ANGELES PUB LIBR CA STANISLAUS CNTY FREE LIBR FL LARGO LIBR FL ORANGE CNTY LIBR SYST IN ALLEN CNTY PUB LIBR MA NEW ENGLAND HISTORIC GENEALOGICAL SOC MO SAINT LOUIS CNTY LIBR NJ FREE PUB LIBR OF NEWARK, NEW JERSEY NJ JOINT FREE PUB LIBR, MORRISTOWN/TOWNSHIP NJ NEW JERSEY STATE LIBR NJ RUTGERS UNIV NJ SOMERSET CNTY LIBR NM ALBUQUERQUE PUB LIBR NY NEW YORK PUB LIBR RES LIBR OH SEO AUTOMATION CONSORTIUM OH TOLEDO-LUCAS CNTY PUB LIBR PA EASTON AREA PUB LIBR TX HOUSTON PUB LIBR TX MIDLAND CNTY PUB LIBR VA NATIONAL GENEALOGICAL SOC WA SPOKANE PUB LIBR WI WISCONSIN HIST SOC Ken Everard wrote: > HELLEN: THANK YOU FOR THIS DYNAMIC LIST OF PLACES. > > Ken > >> There are several places you might check: >> >> The Genealogical Society of NJ at: >> http://www.gsnj.org/ >> >> The New Jersey State Archives at: >> http://www.state.nj.us/state/darm/links/archives.html >> >> The New Jersey State Library at: >> http://www.njstatelib.org/ >> >> The Monmouth County Library at: >> http://www.monmouth.lib.nj.us/ >> >> Monmouth County Historical Association at: >> http://www.monmouth.com/~mcha3/ (click on History Resources) >> >> The Monmouth County Archives at: >> http://www.visitmonmouth.com/archives/index.asp >> >> In addition, there are Historical Societies for individual communities in >> Monmouth County. You can find a list, and links, here: >> http://www.monmouth.com/~mcha3/hsdir.html (scroll down to Local Hist. >> Soc) >> >> >> If you don't find what you need on their web sites, try calling or >> e-mailing them to ask specific questions. >> >> Good Luck, >> Helen >> >> ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== >> Save the Date!!! Save the Date!!! Save the Date!!! >> GSNJ 2006 Spring Conference -- Saturday, June 3rd >> >> ============================== -- Michelle Tucker Chubenko ______________________________

Thank you Helen. I was unaware of this website. I have been using John P. Snyder's The Story of New Jersey's Civil Boundaries, 1606-1968 for many years. Complete with maps and explanations. A really great resource when tracking boundaries. Joan in Virginia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Maliszewski" <HelenM57@patmedia.net> To: <NJ-GSNJ-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 10:34 AM Subject: RE: [GSNJ] NJ Counties > Here's a web site that list the counties, and gives you the formation dates, > and parent county. > > http://www.nj.njgenweb.org/geography/county.html > > > > > ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== > Genealogical Magazine of New Jersey: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsnj/genmag.html >

Ocean County was set off from Monmouth County in 1850. There is an 1850 Federal Census for Ocean County. Toms River was and is the county seat. Joan in Virginia > > ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== > GSNJ Newsletter: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsnj/newsletter.html >

Thanks Kathy; I stand corrected. Ken > Ken, > > Monmouth Co. was one of the original counties and covered a larger area > than > we know today. Ocean Co. was formed from Monmouth in 1850. > > The original counties were Bergen, Burlington, Cape May, Essex, Hunterdon, > Middlesex, Monmouth, and Salem. Anyone researching other counties should > be > checking to see when those counties came into existence and the parent > county or counties. > > Kathy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ken Everard" <everardk@comcast.net> > To: <NJ-GSNJ-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 10:13 AM > Subject: Re: [GSNJ] Newell folks > > >> It was my understanding that Monmouth came from Ocean County! >> >> Ken >> >> >> > Hi Terri >> > >> > I did not know that Ocean came from Monmouth County. That is a very >> > important >> > piece of information for my search for our gg grandmother, Amanda >> > and/or >> > Catherine Amanda Cubberly Dey, who ended up in Heightstown, NJ. I have >> > been >> > stumped on that one. >> > >> > Betty, you found one of the best sources for your searching! GSNJ gave > me >> > information and leads that I never would have found on my own. THANKS, >> > GSNJ! >> > >> > Ann Marie >> > >> > >> > ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== >> > GSNJ Newsletter: >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsnj/newsletter.html >> > >> > ============================== >> > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >> > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== >> GSNJ Home Page: >> http://www.gsnj.org >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> > > > ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== > GSNJ Home Page: > http://www.gsnj.org > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Oops! I was wrong about the formation of Ocean before Monmouth. My apologies and thanks to the person who has provied us with the site below. Ken > Here's a web site that list the counties, and gives you the formation > dates, > and parent county. > > http://www.nj.njgenweb.org/geography/county.html > > > > > ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== > Genealogical Magazine of New Jersey: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsnj/genmag.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Here's a web site that list the counties, and gives you the formation dates, and parent county. http://www.nj.njgenweb.org/geography/county.html

Ken, Monmouth Co. was one of the original counties and covered a larger area than we know today. Ocean Co. was formed from Monmouth in 1850. The original counties were Bergen, Burlington, Cape May, Essex, Hunterdon, Middlesex, Monmouth, and Salem. Anyone researching other counties should be checking to see when those counties came into existence and the parent county or counties. Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Everard" <everardk@comcast.net> To: <NJ-GSNJ-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [GSNJ] Newell folks > It was my understanding that Monmouth came from Ocean County! > > Ken > > > > Hi Terri > > > > I did not know that Ocean came from Monmouth County. That is a very > > important > > piece of information for my search for our gg grandmother, Amanda and/or > > Catherine Amanda Cubberly Dey, who ended up in Heightstown, NJ. I have > > been > > stumped on that one. > > > > Betty, you found one of the best sources for your searching! GSNJ gave me > > information and leads that I never would have found on my own. THANKS, > > GSNJ! > > > > Ann Marie > > > > > > ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== > > GSNJ Newsletter: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsnj/newsletter.html > > > > ============================== > > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== > GSNJ Home Page: > http://www.gsnj.org > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

It was my understanding that Monmouth came from Ocean County! Ken > Hi Terri > > I did not know that Ocean came from Monmouth County. That is a very > important > piece of information for my search for our gg grandmother, Amanda and/or > Catherine Amanda Cubberly Dey, who ended up in Heightstown, NJ. I have > been > stumped on that one. > > Betty, you found one of the best sources for your searching! GSNJ gave me > information and leads that I never would have found on my own. THANKS, > GSNJ! > > Ann Marie > > > ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== > GSNJ Newsletter: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsnj/newsletter.html > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Hi Terri I did not know that Ocean came from Monmouth County. That is a very important piece of information for my search for our gg grandmother, Amanda and/or Catherine Amanda Cubberly Dey, who ended up in Heightstown, NJ. I have been stumped on that one. Betty, you found one of the best sources for your searching! GSNJ gave me information and leads that I never would have found on my own. THANKS, GSNJ! Ann Marie

Welcome Betty. You have the particular brick wall that drives us genealogists almost "postal" - the one where there's just enough info to prove his/her existance, but not quite the confirming data you need. A suggestion -- check the archives of the Burlington and Monmouth Co.s mail lists. Also, since you're dealing with Mon. Co. pretty close to the 1850's, you might want to peak at Ocean Co. archives as well, since Ocean Co. sprang from Mon. in 1850. I've had a few good runs of luck by doing google searches -- play around with your search words - try as many different phrases as you can think of -- no matter how "impossible" it may seem. And, ofcourse, posting here is very good -- there's many very learned NJ genealogists available to help ------ and they do!!!! Keep well -- Terri

----- Original Message ----- From: Betty Nelson To: NJ-GSNJ.@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 1:08 PM Subject: Newell family HI, I'm a new member of CGSN living in California and not yet sure of proper protocol. I am wondering if any other members are researching the Newell family . They lived in the Burlington, Monmouth area . My grandfather Ambrose Newell was born in Georgetown in 1846. His father Robert was born in 1805 in Chesterfield .Robert and his wife Ann Thorn are buried in the Jacobstown cemetery. Robert owned a carriage factory and was a cofounder of the Recklesstown Baptist Church, now Chesterfield. Robert and his siblings birth information gives parents names as William and Sarah Newell and say both were born in New Jersey. That is my brick wall. I am looking for information on William and Sarah , The Chesterfield census for 1830 shows Sarah is head of household, so William must have died between Robert's birth in 1805 and 1830 since Robert is the youngest child,.I am trying to find deeds of that era in the hope William owned land. I have found no will or intestate info and no marri! age license for my WILLIAM. I'd welcome any information on this Newell family, or any ideas or suggeations for getting past my brick wall. Mary Nelson