Terri While New Jersey passed a law requiring births, marriages, and deaths to be recorded and reported to the state starting in 1848 there was no enforcement mechanism. Prior to 1900 many of these events were not reported to the state. The further back you go the more things were not reported. If you know what county the marriage took place in you can try county historical societies. They may have county or church records. Curt Miller -------------- Original message -------------- From: taire@webtv.net (Terri) > > Hello - > > A question, for a friend, but the answer will probably help everyone > else also -- > > If a person has searched the new NJ Archives marriage base and not found > the needed marriage, should they write to the Archives requesting a > search anyway? And if the marriage was not found, but strongly > "supposed" to have been in NJ in 1853, what might be some reasons for it > not being there?? > > Thank you -- Terri > > > ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== > New Jersey Legislative Alerts: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsnj/legislation.html > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

Hello Terri, It is my understanding that the searchable database is not yet finished, so there is still the possibility that the state record may be found at the NJ State Archives. The county records may also be searched, and going by my own experience, the chance of success is greater at this level. However, the information included is usually limited to the names of the parties, the date and officiator. If you check the Archives web site, you will find directions for ordering the county records. The cost is nominal, so even if the record is not found, you can think of the fee as a donation to a very worthwhile cause. The staff is wonderful, and will be thorough in their effort to locate the record. No sloppy work or minimal efforts at this facility! Hope this helps, Helen

Terri If you know the religeon of your family back then you can check church records by going to your nearest FHC and ordering microfilm to search through. I can't tell you how many family members I found this way. Maryann Clark curtw@comcast.net wrote: Terri While New Jersey passed a law requiring births, marriages, and deaths to be recorded and reported to the state starting in 1848 there was no enforcement mechanism. Prior to 1900 many of these events were not reported to the state. The further back you go the more things were not reported. If you know what county the marriage took place in you can try county historical societies. They may have county or church records. Curt Miller -------------- Original message -------------- From: taire@webtv.net (Terri) > > Hello - > > A question, for a friend, but the answer will probably help everyone > else also -- > > If a person has searched the new NJ Archives marriage base and not found > the needed marriage, should they write to the Archives requesting a > search anyway? And if the marriage was not found, but strongly > "supposed" to have been in NJ in 1853, what might be some reasons for it > not being there?? > > Thank you -- Terri > > > ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== > New Jersey Legislative Alerts: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsnj/legislation.html > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== Visit our Collections Guide: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsnj/collectionguide.html ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates.

Hello - A question, for a friend, but the answer will probably help everyone else also -- If a person has searched the new NJ Archives marriage base and not found the needed marriage, should they write to the Archives requesting a search anyway? And if the marriage was not found, but strongly "supposed" to have been in NJ in 1853, what might be some reasons for it not being there?? Thank you -- Terri

Dear Shirley Thank you for your supportive email! GSNJ and the Advocates for NJ History met with Assemblywoman Quigley about two weeks ago. She has indicated a willingness to redraft the bill and make the changes that GSNJ had requested. We are now in something of a holding pattern. The NJ legislature is busy working on the budget and she is a part of the budget committee. Once the budget issue is more settled, we will get back in touch with her to see if we can be of any assistance with making the changes to A1390. We will keep the GSNJ mailing list informed of any developments on this issue. (If you aren't a subscriber to this list, you can find instructions on subscribing on our website www.gsnj.org Thanks again and have a wonderful holiday weekend! Regards, Joan Joan M. Lowry mailto:jml-gsnj@earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 6:33 PM To: jml-gsnj@earthlink.net Subject: limit access Dear Joan, My ancestors came from New Jersey. I am constantly searching out information on them. I would not want access to information to be blocked. If I can write a letter(s) to any one regarding this matter, I will be glad to help. Shirley Mack

Opps, I made a mistake, The book was donated to the NJ Historical Socity, not the Genealogical Society of NJ. However, I am still interested in contacting persons descended from Abagail Annin Greer and how the descendants of Alexander Annin (Abagail's ancestor) we could find prove that John Johnstone born in Scotland is John Annan. A short essay by a child in the William Annin Middle School in Somerset County, NJ included this same information. I have written by e-mail to the school, but did not receive a reply. In another book, I have- entitled " Among the Blue Hills... Bernardsville.... a History" a reference is made regarding this same information. On page 24, John Annan is referred to as being John Johnstone of Annandale, Scotland. If anyone can shed light on this delima, it would be appreciated. Pauli ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline Sears" <dpsears@artelco.com> To: <NJ-GSNJ-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 11:48 AM Subject: [GSNJ] F. J. Greer's book donated to the GSNJ > > I have come into possession of a book entitled "Centennial Celebration of > the Annin family at The Old Stone House in Somerset County, NJ" dated Aug > 15,1866. It was printed for private distribution in Philadelphia for > Ferdinand J. Greer. Mr. Greer presented it to the New Jersey Historical > Society on May 23, 1870. > > > For some reason the NJHS didn't want it anymore. Mr. Greer married > Abagail Dickenson Annin who is my 1st cousin 5 times removed and her > grandfather, William Annin - born in Scotland - is my 5th g-grandfather. > In Bernardsville, there is a middle school named after William Annin. Is > anyone kin to Abagail Dickenson Annin Greer? I would like to find out how > they proved William Annin's father was John Johnstone Annan born in > Scotland. > > Thanks for you help. Pauli from Arkansas > > ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== > GSNJ 2006 Spring Conference -- Saturday, June 3rd > Program Schedule & Registration Booklet > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsnj/2006Spring.htm > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

I have come into possession of a book entitled "Centennial Celebration of the Annin family at The Old Stone House in Somerset County, NJ" dated Aug 15,1866. It was printed for private distribution in Philadelphia for Ferdinand J. Greer. Mr. Greer presented it to the New Jersey Histrical Society on May 23, 1870. For some reason the NJHS didn't want it anymore. Mr. Greer married Abagail Dickenson Annin who is my 1st cousin 5 times removed and her grandfather, William Annin - born in Scotland - is my 5th g-grandfather. In Bernardsville, there is a middle school named after William Annin. Is anyone kin to Abagail Dickenson Annin Greer? I would like to find out how they proved William Annin's father was John Johnstone Annan born in Scotland. Thanks for you help. Pauli from Arkansas

Joseph, thanks for the new sites. Your addition plus the recent new additions of others certainly helps us all out in finding our ancestors. I will now start my search for the marriage of my great grandparents. Ken > Great site! I found several marriage dates I did not have. > > Lorna in Maine > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Joseph R Klett [mailto:joseph.klett@sos.state.nj.us] >> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 2:20 PM >> To: NJ-GSNJ-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Additions to State Archives Website >> >> Dear List-Serve Members: >> >> I am pleased to announce two important additions to the New Jersey > State >> Archives website. First, genealogists will be glad to see the posting >> of our index to the state's marriage records, 1848-1867, at the >> following URL: >> >> http://www.njarchives.org/links/marriagedb1867.html > > > > > ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== > Visit our Collections Guide: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsnj/collectionguide.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Michelle, How can I get the newsletter? Wyona ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michelle Chubenko" <michelle@chubenko.us> To: <NJ-GSNJ-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [GSNJ] Newsletter > Donna wrote: > >> Michelle, >> The new Newsletter came, very nice job. It arrived in the mail >> yesterday. >> And the increase to 4 times a year will be nice. Enjoyed reading it, >> format >> is very easy to read. >> Thanks >> Donna > > Donna, > > Thank you for your feedback on our "debut" issue! The newsletter > committee is very excited to be able to present the "updated" publication > for our members. So far, the consensus is good... everyone is liking what > they received! > > Also, we're always on the lookout for helpful websites and New Jersey > items. Please feel free to forward these type of items to the attention > of our editor <newsletter@gsnj.org> > > Again, thank you! > Michelle Chubenko > GSNJ Trustee & Webmaster > > > ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== > Visit our Collections Guide: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsnj/collectionguide.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Great site! I found several marriage dates I did not have. Lorna in Maine > -----Original Message----- > From: Joseph R Klett [mailto:joseph.klett@sos.state.nj.us] > Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 2:20 PM > To: NJ-GSNJ-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Additions to State Archives Website > > Dear List-Serve Members: > > I am pleased to announce two important additions to the New Jersey State > Archives website. First, genealogists will be glad to see the posting > of our index to the state's marriage records, 1848-1867, at the > following URL: > > http://www.njarchives.org/links/marriagedb1867.html

Donna wrote: > Michelle, > The new Newsletter came, very nice job. It arrived in the mail yesterday. > And the increase to 4 times a year will be nice. Enjoyed reading it, format > is very easy to read. > Thanks > Donna Donna, Thank you for your feedback on our "debut" issue! The newsletter committee is very excited to be able to present the "updated" publication for our members. So far, the consensus is good... everyone is liking what they received! Also, we're always on the lookout for helpful websites and New Jersey items. Please feel free to forward these type of items to the attention of our editor <newsletter@gsnj.org> Again, thank you! Michelle Chubenko GSNJ Trustee & Webmaster

Wow! Congratulations to the Archives for this ambitious undertaking!! I hope the computer can handle the work out it will probably get this weekend when everyone finds out about this... Regards, Joan Joan M. Lowry mailto:jmlowry@earthlink.net > -----Original Message----- > From: Joseph R Klett [mailto:joseph.klett@sos.state.nj.us] > Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 2:20 PM > To: NJ-GSNJ-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [GSNJ] Additions to State Archives Website > > > Dear List-Serve Members: > > I am pleased to announce two important additions to the New > Jersey State > Archives website. First, genealogists will be glad to see > the posting > of our index to the state's marriage records, 1848-1867, at the > following URL: > > http://www.njarchives.org/links/marriagedb1867.html > > While the state search engine is slow at present, we are working to > acquire the technical resources needed to improve search > response time. > Meanwhile, we are excited to make the information readily accessible > through the site. (You just might want to get up in between searches > and stretch a bit during your online genealogy sessions!) > > I would like to acknowledge the following Archives staff for > their major > efforts to post this data: Vivian Thiele, for her database > development > work; Cheri Wortmann, in particular, along with Edna Velez, > Sarah Boyer > and Laurice Niceler, for countless hours of data entry over a > period of > several years; Sean Curry for his past contributions to > developing the > database; and Veronica Calder and Lois Bredlow for their html work. > > Secondly, historians and educators will be interested to see that we > have also posted images and transcriptions of the original > (signed) New > Jersey state constitutions of 1844 and 1947, linked from the > following page: > > http://www.njarchives.org/links/constitution.html > > Kudos to website geniuses Veronica Calder and Lois Bredlow, scanning > mavens Joanne Nestor, John Chepega and Dan Noonan, and adjunct > proofreader Ellen Callahan, for their concerted and most > excellent work > to create these beatiful pages! > > With best regards, > > Joseph R. Klett, Chief of Archives > NJ Div. of Archives & Records Management > > > ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== > New Jersey Legislative Alerts: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsnj/legislation.html > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn > more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Dear List-Serve Members: I am pleased to announce two important additions to the New Jersey State Archives website. First, genealogists will be glad to see the posting of our index to the state's marriage records, 1848-1867, at the following URL: http://www.njarchives.org/links/marriagedb1867.html While the state search engine is slow at present, we are working to acquire the technical resources needed to improve search response time. Meanwhile, we are excited to make the information readily accessible through the site. (You just might want to get up in between searches and stretch a bit during your online genealogy sessions!) I would like to acknowledge the following Archives staff for their major efforts to post this data: Vivian Thiele, for her database development work; Cheri Wortmann, in particular, along with Edna Velez, Sarah Boyer and Laurice Niceler, for countless hours of data entry over a period of several years; Sean Curry for his past contributions to developing the database; and Veronica Calder and Lois Bredlow for their html work. Secondly, historians and educators will be interested to see that we have also posted images and transcriptions of the original (signed) New Jersey state constitutions of 1844 and 1947, linked from the following page: http://www.njarchives.org/links/constitution.html Kudos to website geniuses Veronica Calder and Lois Bredlow, scanning mavens Joanne Nestor, John Chepega and Dan Noonan, and adjunct proofreader Ellen Callahan, for their concerted and most excellent work to create these beatiful pages! With best regards, Joseph R. Klett, Chief of Archives NJ Div. of Archives & Records Management

I did not receive the Newsletter. I would like to get it. Thank you, Julie B in NC -----Original Message----- From: Donna [mailto:dakota3@optonline.net] Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 12:38 PM To: NJ-GSNJ-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GSNJ] Newsletter Michelle, The new Newsletter came, very nice job. It arrived in the mail yesterday. And the increase to 4 times a year will be nice. Enjoyed reading it, format is very easy to read. Thanks Donna ==== NJ-GSNJ Mailing List ==== GSNJ Newsletter: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgsnj/newsletter.html ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.2/294 - Release Date: 3/27/2006 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.2/294 - Release Date: 3/27/2006

Michelle, The new Newsletter came, very nice job. It arrived in the mail yesterday. And the increase to 4 times a year will be nice. Enjoyed reading it, format is very easy to read. Thanks Donna

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Hi everyone!! The current issue of the GSNJ Newsletter has been mailed and will be arriving soon! Keep an eye on your mailbox for you copy and let us know what you think of the changes!! -- Michelle Tucker Chubenko GSNJ Trustee & Webmaster http://www.gsnj.org/

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: H-NEW-JERSEY Digest - 30 Mar 2006 to 31 Mar 2006 (#2006-77) Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 00:01:50 -0500 Subject: naturalizations index Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 20:30:28 -0500 I am pleased to report that the Monmouth County Clerk's naturalization records in the Monmouth County Archives can now be searched online: http://www.visitmonmouth.com/archives/naturalsearch.asp Archives Reference Specialist Mary Ann Kiernan worked with Dave Roberts of Monmouth County's Information Services department to implement this useful tool. We now have two databases available on our website; the other is Marriages. More to come! Gary Saretzky Archivist, County of Monmouth ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Naturalization Record Group Finding Aid: http://www.visitmonmouth.com/archives/lgnatrl.asp 1809-1906 Naturalization Records Database: http://www.visitmonmouth.com/archives/naturalsearch.asp

FYI... -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [NJ] Jersey Roots / Spring Program Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 22:52:46 -0600 Resent-From: NJ-L@rootsweb.com Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 00:53:41 -0400 From: Joan M Lowry <jmlowry@earthlink.net> To: NJ-L@rootsweb.com Hi All I've seen people on the lists asking about whether or not materials from the Jersey Roots III and GSNJ Spring Program will be made available for purchase. I do not know what the committees will decide and so cannot say for certain. I do know that there are no current plans to tape the lectures, either for audio or video. What was done for the previous Jersey Roots lectures was that copies of the syllabus were made available for purchase after the lecture series ended. Copies were sold in cd-rom or in paperback. Prices were not determined until the end of the lecture series when the size of the final syllabus was known. This may be done again this year. When a decision is made about whether or not the syllabus materials from this series will be sold, and in what formats - we can post a notice to the lists and at that point someone can take your names and email addresses. Then, when the series is over and a final price is set - everyone who requested to be on the list can be notified of how to order a copy and what the price will be. I hope that might be a good start... Regards, Joan Joan M. Lowry mailto:jmlowry@earthlink.net ==== NJ Mailing List ==== Please avoid flaming (attacking) any single person or the group. This infraction will earn you immediate removal from the list.

David & Michelle Actually, I think what David is asking about is one of the lectures in the SHRAB Workshop series. I do see that one is currently scheduled to be held at the NJ State Archives on Nov 10 - I think it is the workshop on Religious Archives. That's a very good point and perhaps one that the schedulers missed. I'll ask and get back to the list if they are going to have to change the date. Thanks for pointing that out!! Regards, Joan Joan M. Lowry mailto:membership@gsnj.org > -----Original Message----- > From: Michelle Chubenko [mailto:michelle@chubenko.us] > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 5:27 PM > To: NJ-GSNJ-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GSNJ] Re: NJ-GSNJ-D Digest V06 #54 > > > David, > > Finding the impetus for your question took me a bit, but I found that > you're referring to the Fall 2004 schedule. As Joan's note > stated, the > Spring 2006 information will be online shortly. > > Michelle Chubenko > GSNJ Trustee & Webmaster > > > David Compton wrote: > > > I note that one of your lectures is scheduled for Friday, > November 10th. > > > > I believe that that date is Veteran's Day (a state Holiday). > > > > Will that change things?