Jim, what county. I just sent thoes films back to LDS. On 6/12/07, Jim Davis (jidavis) <[email protected]> wrote: > > Is anyone available to do a Lookup in New Jersey Tax Lists Index > 1772-1822? > > Thanks > -Jim > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > -- Ann Brown " Cookie"

Is anyone available to do a Lookup in New Jersey Tax Lists Index 1772-1822? Thanks -Jim

Hello, If anyone could look up on the 1772-18-- for 1790 in Salem County (probably Mannington Twp) for Martin Miller, I'd sure be grateful. Thank you so much, Pat --------------------------------- Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.

What years do the 13 volumes cover? The format looks great. Maria Melbourne, Victoria, Australia On 6/7/07, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > Howdy - I've begun working on transcribing all the entries in all the > Calendar of Wills subset volumes (13) of the NJ Archives series, and > while am nowhere close to conclusion, thought you'd all like to see > how the finished project may appear and what it will contain. There > is only so much space, and conforming a database project limited to 1 > line of text per entry is quite a diffiuclt task. This data was > originally in Landscape format, with normal tabs at 0.5". The > significance of the column FILE demonstrates well how many documents > are available for any one individual and where in the State Archives > at Trenton they may exist. Would appreciate comments for and against! > David - [email protected] > > DATE NAME LOCATION COUNTY DOCUMENT FILE SOURCE > 1812, May 7 ACKERMAN, Cornelius New Barbadoes, Bergen Co, > NJ Bergen Will - Written 3574 B NJA 41:5 > 1813, Oct 19 ACKERMAN, Cornelius New Barbadoes, Bergen Co, > NJ Bergen Inventory 3574 B NJA 41:5 > 1812, Oct 18 ACKERMAN, Cornelius New Barbadoes, Bergen Co, > NJ Bergen Will - Proved 3574 B NJA 41:5 > 1810, Oct 27 ACKERMAN, Issac M New Barbadoes, Bergen Co, > NJ Bergen Inventory - Intestate 3478 B NJA 41:5 > 1810, Oct 29 ACKERMAN, Issac M New Barbadoes, Bergen Co, > NJ Bergen Inventory - Sworn to 3478 B NJA 41:5 > 1803, Oct 12 ACKERMAN, Jacob Saddle River, Bergen Co, NJ > Bergen Will - > Written 3536 B NJA 41:5 > 1812, Jan 23 ACKERMAN, Jacob Saddle River, Bergen Co, NJ > Bergen Will - > Proved 3536 B NJA 41:5 > 1812, Feb 25 ACKERMAN, Jacob Saddle River, Bergen Co, > NJ Bergen Inventory 3536 B NJA 41:5 > 1813, Dec 6 ACKERMAN, Peter Harington, Bergen Co, > NJ Bergen Inventory > - Intestate 3575 B NJA 41:5 > 1813, Dec 14 ACKERMAN, Peter Harington, Bergen Co, > NJ Bergen Inventory > - Sworn to 3575 B NJA 41:5 > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

I am researching the Heiser family that immigrated to Philadelphia about 1840 with JACOB HEISER SR. and his wife CATHERINE UNKNOWN. They had a son WILLIAM WASHINGTON HEISER (ggrandfather) who married RACHEL ALLEN. William and Rachel had 12 children,including two sets of twins. One of the sets included my grandfather EDWIN MARTIN HEISER b.1887) who liked to be called EDWARD. He married AMELIA DENSTEN (b.1891 Deptford Twp.),don't know where.They lived in Philadelphia in the beginning of their marriage but moved the family to NJ for the birth of their last child BERNARD HARRY HEISER who was my father.That was in 1924. I am looking for info of their life while living in Thorofare,Woodbury and Paulsboro in Gloucester County. I was told that they owned a general store on Old Crown Point Road in Thorofare sometime during the early 1930's. I have not found any proof of this though there is still an old storefront on that road. I was also told that EDWIN MARTIN aka. EDWARD worked at Sucony Vacuum in Paulsboro where he lost his leg or part of it. BERNARD'S sister MARIE married CHARLES LEONARD who owned a dairy (another story) just off of Crown Point Road and I was told that my father delivered dairy products up and down the Delaware River to the farms that used to be there when he was a child. BERNARD (BERNIE) attended a school in Paulsboro when he was very young and then the Walnut Street School in Woodbury till about the sixth grade. His first wife was Edna Dean from Woodbury. I know nothing about her except that they probably married about 1942 or so. EDWIN and AMELIA broke up when my father was four years old. She returned to Philadelphia to live with her mother and my father was raised by his sister. Not sure where EDWIN was in the family life then but he stayed in NJ. Any info or old photos that can be copied would be appreciated and I will share what I have. Thank you, S. Hoffman

I know there are a couple of Densten researchers out there though I never see them on this list. Is there anyone having info on this family going back to Levin (1784 VA -1877 NJ ) and his family coming from Permelia Unknown? I would especially like to be able to copy old photos of Levin and his grandson Winfield Scott Densten.Winfield is my ggrandfather. I found copies of pics of his son John and wife Eleanor at the Gloucester County Historical Society. Also any photocopies of documents if available. I am willing to share the photos and documents that I have for those listed above and other family members. Thanks, S. Hoffman

just passing this info on as i do-i have no input or knowledge of the subj so contact alan if you need to-linda Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 16:37:08 -0400 From: "Alan Buckingham" <[email protected]> Subject: [NJESSEX] NJ Book To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250 Hello All, I have added another 20 pages to the book "East Jersey Under the Proprietors". The first 20 pages of the book is on the web at http://www.midatlanticarchives.com Alan RESEARCHING: Buckingham, Gilpin, Eastburn, Jeanes, Nowland, Wade, Creswell, Vansant and related families ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Howdy folks: As I get further into the entries into my Excel database of material from the Calendar of Wills series, am realizing that I need some help with making sure the material is done properly, AND, will need in the future, volunteers to assist with sorting of data. My estimation is that we will be dealing with about 50,000 entries, and I want to make sure the material produced is as accurately as possible. If anyone would like to help me, write me offlist - [email protected] - and then I can fill you in on what I need done. Then, whenever material is posted to the list membership, or to GenWeb Archives, you'll get credit as well. I don't imagine, based on what am doing at present, that any volunteer would spend more than 2 or 3 hours 'per week' when the workload is greatest in the future, and much less now. So if you feel you want to help out, kindly let me know. PLEASE do not reply to this message through the RootsWeb NJ Mailing List address ([email protected]) - reply just to my offlist address ([email protected]). Thanx in advance. David - [email protected] ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

David--thanks for your time and effort in posting this info. The format looks fine to me! Cheryl Howdy - I've begun working on transcribing all the entries in all the > Calendar of Wills subset volumes (13) of the NJ Archives series, and > while am nowhere close to conclusion, thought you'd all like to see > how the finished project may appear and what it will contain. There > is only so much space, and conforming a database project limited to 1 > line of text per entry is quite a diffiuclt task. This data was > originally in Landscape format, with normal tabs at 0.5". The > significance of the column FILE demonstrates well how many documents > are available for any one individual and where in the State Archives > at Trenton they may exist. Would appreciate comments for and against! > David - [email protected] >>

I'll agree with Carol. Good work. Ann On 6/6/07, Carol Payne <[email protected]> wrote: > > It works for me! You're the one doing all this wonderful work, so do > what's > best for you. We'll figure it out. One thing for sure, if we can't > figure > it out, we certainly know how to ask questions! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 2:37 PM > Subject: [NJ] Calendar of Wills Database > > > > Howdy - I've begun working on transcribing all the entries in all the > > Calendar of Wills subset volumes (13) of the NJ Archives series, and > > while am nowhere close to conclusion, thought you'd all like to see > > how the finished project may appear and what it will contain. There > > is only so much space, and conforming a database project limited to 1 > > line of text per entry is quite a diffiuclt task. This data was > > originally in Landscape format, with normal tabs at 0.5". The > > significance of the column FILE demonstrates well how many documents > > are available for any one individual and where in the State Archives > > at Trenton they may exist. Would appreciate comments for and against! > > David - [email protected] > > > > DATE NAME LOCATION COUNTY DOCUMENT FILE SOURCE > > 1812, May 7 ACKERMAN, Cornelius New Barbadoes, Bergen Co, > > NJ Bergen Will - Written 3574 B NJA 41:5 > > 1813, Oct 19 ACKERMAN, Cornelius New Barbadoes, Bergen Co, > > NJ Bergen Inventory 3574 B NJA 41:5 > > 1812, Oct 18 ACKERMAN, Cornelius New Barbadoes, Bergen Co, > > NJ Bergen Will - Proved 3574 B NJA 41:5 > > 1810, Oct 27 ACKERMAN, Issac M New Barbadoes, Bergen Co, > > NJ Bergen Inventory - Intestate 3478 B NJA 41:5 > > 1810, Oct 29 ACKERMAN, Issac M New Barbadoes, Bergen Co, > > NJ Bergen Inventory - Sworn to 3478 B NJA 41:5 > > 1803, Oct 12 ACKERMAN, Jacob Saddle River, Bergen Co, NJ Bergen Will - > > Written 3536 B NJA 41:5 > > 1812, Jan 23 ACKERMAN, Jacob Saddle River, Bergen Co, NJ Bergen Will - > > Proved 3536 B NJA 41:5 > > 1812, Feb 25 ACKERMAN, Jacob Saddle River, Bergen Co, > > NJ Bergen Inventory 3536 B NJA 41:5 > > 1813, Dec 6 ACKERMAN, Peter Harington, Bergen Co, NJ Bergen Inventory > > - Intestate 3575 B NJA 41:5 > > 1813, Dec 14 ACKERMAN, Peter Harington, Bergen Co, NJ Bergen Inventory > > - Sworn to 3575 B NJA 41:5 > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > -- Ann Brown " Cookie"

Looks good. Loreen Wells [email protected] wrote: > Howdy - I've begun working on transcribing all the entries in all the > Calendar of Wills subset volumes (13) of the NJ Archives series, and > while am nowhere close to conclusion, thought you'd all like to see > how the finished project may appear and what it will contain. There > is only so much space, and conforming a database project limited to 1 > line of text per entry is quite a diffiuclt task. This data was > originally in Landscape format, with normal tabs at 0.5". The > significance of the column FILE demonstrates well how many documents > are available for any one individual and where in the State Archives > at Trenton they may exist. Would appreciate comments for and against! > David - [email protected] > > DATE NAME LOCATION COUNTY DOCUMENT FILE SOURCE > 1812, May 7 ACKERMAN, Cornelius New Barbadoes, Bergen Co, > NJ Bergen Will - Written 3574 B NJA 41:5 > 1813, Oct 19 ACKERMAN, Cornelius New Barbadoes, Bergen Co, > NJ Bergen Inventory 3574 B NJA 41:5 > 1812, Oct 18 ACKERMAN, Cornelius New Barbadoes, Bergen Co, > NJ Bergen Will - Proved 3574 B NJA 41:5 > 1810, Oct 27 ACKERMAN, Issac M New Barbadoes, Bergen Co, > NJ Bergen Inventory - Intestate 3478 B NJA 41:5 > 1810, Oct 29 ACKERMAN, Issac M New Barbadoes, Bergen Co, > NJ Bergen Inventory - Sworn to 3478 B NJA 41:5 > 1803, Oct 12 ACKERMAN, Jacob Saddle River, Bergen Co, NJ Bergen Will - > Written 3536 B NJA 41:5 > 1812, Jan 23 ACKERMAN, Jacob Saddle River, Bergen Co, NJ Bergen Will - > Proved 3536 B NJA 41:5 > 1812, Feb 25 ACKERMAN, Jacob Saddle River, Bergen Co, > NJ Bergen Inventory 3536 B NJA 41:5 > 1813, Dec 6 ACKERMAN, Peter Harington, Bergen Co, NJ Bergen Inventory > - Intestate 3575 B NJA 41:5 > 1813, Dec 14 ACKERMAN, Peter Harington, Bergen Co, NJ Bergen Inventory > - Sworn to 3575 B NJA 41:5 > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

It works for me! You're the one doing all this wonderful work, so do what's best for you. We'll figure it out. One thing for sure, if we can't figure it out, we certainly know how to ask questions! ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 2:37 PM Subject: [NJ] Calendar of Wills Database > Howdy - I've begun working on transcribing all the entries in all the > Calendar of Wills subset volumes (13) of the NJ Archives series, and > while am nowhere close to conclusion, thought you'd all like to see > how the finished project may appear and what it will contain. There > is only so much space, and conforming a database project limited to 1 > line of text per entry is quite a diffiuclt task. This data was > originally in Landscape format, with normal tabs at 0.5". The > significance of the column FILE demonstrates well how many documents > are available for any one individual and where in the State Archives > at Trenton they may exist. Would appreciate comments for and against! > David - [email protected] > > DATE NAME LOCATION COUNTY DOCUMENT FILE SOURCE > 1812, May 7 ACKERMAN, Cornelius New Barbadoes, Bergen Co, > NJ Bergen Will - Written 3574 B NJA 41:5 > 1813, Oct 19 ACKERMAN, Cornelius New Barbadoes, Bergen Co, > NJ Bergen Inventory 3574 B NJA 41:5 > 1812, Oct 18 ACKERMAN, Cornelius New Barbadoes, Bergen Co, > NJ Bergen Will - Proved 3574 B NJA 41:5 > 1810, Oct 27 ACKERMAN, Issac M New Barbadoes, Bergen Co, > NJ Bergen Inventory - Intestate 3478 B NJA 41:5 > 1810, Oct 29 ACKERMAN, Issac M New Barbadoes, Bergen Co, > NJ Bergen Inventory - Sworn to 3478 B NJA 41:5 > 1803, Oct 12 ACKERMAN, Jacob Saddle River, Bergen Co, NJ Bergen Will - > Written 3536 B NJA 41:5 > 1812, Jan 23 ACKERMAN, Jacob Saddle River, Bergen Co, NJ Bergen Will - > Proved 3536 B NJA 41:5 > 1812, Feb 25 ACKERMAN, Jacob Saddle River, Bergen Co, > NJ Bergen Inventory 3536 B NJA 41:5 > 1813, Dec 6 ACKERMAN, Peter Harington, Bergen Co, NJ Bergen Inventory > - Intestate 3575 B NJA 41:5 > 1813, Dec 14 ACKERMAN, Peter Harington, Bergen Co, NJ Bergen Inventory > - Sworn to 3575 B NJA 41:5 > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Howdy - I've begun working on transcribing all the entries in all the Calendar of Wills subset volumes (13) of the NJ Archives series, and while am nowhere close to conclusion, thought you'd all like to see how the finished project may appear and what it will contain. There is only so much space, and conforming a database project limited to 1 line of text per entry is quite a diffiuclt task. This data was originally in Landscape format, with normal tabs at 0.5". The significance of the column FILE demonstrates well how many documents are available for any one individual and where in the State Archives at Trenton they may exist. Would appreciate comments for and against! David - [email protected] DATE NAME LOCATION COUNTY DOCUMENT FILE SOURCE 1812, May 7 ACKERMAN, Cornelius New Barbadoes, Bergen Co, NJ Bergen Will - Written 3574 B NJA 41:5 1813, Oct 19 ACKERMAN, Cornelius New Barbadoes, Bergen Co, NJ Bergen Inventory 3574 B NJA 41:5 1812, Oct 18 ACKERMAN, Cornelius New Barbadoes, Bergen Co, NJ Bergen Will - Proved 3574 B NJA 41:5 1810, Oct 27 ACKERMAN, Issac M New Barbadoes, Bergen Co, NJ Bergen Inventory - Intestate 3478 B NJA 41:5 1810, Oct 29 ACKERMAN, Issac M New Barbadoes, Bergen Co, NJ Bergen Inventory - Sworn to 3478 B NJA 41:5 1803, Oct 12 ACKERMAN, Jacob Saddle River, Bergen Co, NJ Bergen Will - Written 3536 B NJA 41:5 1812, Jan 23 ACKERMAN, Jacob Saddle River, Bergen Co, NJ Bergen Will - Proved 3536 B NJA 41:5 1812, Feb 25 ACKERMAN, Jacob Saddle River, Bergen Co, NJ Bergen Inventory 3536 B NJA 41:5 1813, Dec 6 ACKERMAN, Peter Harington, Bergen Co, NJ Bergen Inventory - Intestate 3575 B NJA 41:5 1813, Dec 14 ACKERMAN, Peter Harington, Bergen Co, NJ Bergen Inventory - Sworn to 3575 B NJA 41:5 ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

I have an ancestor who inherited this Tavern from a Jedediah Elwell about 1830. His name was Levin Densten (Levin,Eleven Dunstan). He inherited through his wife Permelia who died shortly after in 1835. I have tried to gather info on this Tavern with no success. I would like to find out when it was built and if there are any surviving photos of it as it was abandoned about 1850 when the town fathers decided to build a dam between the Delaware River and Woodbury, putting the tavern and the farms and homes of others under afew feet of water. I would also like info on Permelia. I know she might have been born in VA where her husband is reported to have been born but there is no death certificate or mention in the local church records of her passing. I have found the order for her coffin and also a record of her burial site, which was Stranger's Graveyard. Later the bodies (the ones they found) were moved to a cemetery in Deptford. There has never been mention of her maiden name. I do know she was a niece of Jedediah Elwell but that does not mean that she shared the same surname. Finding her surname or family would be a major breakthrough for me.

BENJAMIN AND JANE AARONSON gave birth in Mt. Holly to 6 children: Benjamin was a shoemaker: JOSEPH H. - 11/3/1853 ALFRED - 10/7/1855 ELLA DEAN - 8/8/1857 AMOS W. - 11/17/1858 CHARLOTTE - 10/16/1860 MARY A. - 6/24/1862 AMY and AMOS AARONSON had 2 cildren..Amos was a shoemaker, also in Mt. Holly GEORGE - 10/8/1853 IDA - 10/12/1860 MARRIAGES: 10/30/1855: JOSHUA F. AARONSON, 24, son of EZRA & HOPE AARONSON, married REBECCA ANN GARWOOD, 20, dtr.of JAMES & ELIZA GARWOOD, in Mt. Holly. 9/25/1862, Beverly, HENRY B. AARONSON, 26, single, of Mansfield, son of SAMUEL AARONSON, married ELEANOR M SAGER, 34, single, of Beverly, dtr. of THOMAS SAGER, merchant. Hope you find some clues among these listed above. [email protected] "Land of the free BECAUSE of the brave" ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

NORTHAMPTON TWP, BURLINGTON CO. 1848-1865 Index of births, marraiges, deaths lists these first names. Please select the ones in which you are most interested, as many have several references. ALFRED AMOS AMY BENJAMIN CHARLOTTE ELLA EZRA GEORGE HENRY HOPE IDA JANE JOSEPH JOSHUA MARY SAMUEL. [email protected] "Land of the free BECAUSE of the brave" ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Howdy - back in Nov 2002, I submitted to the RootsWeb GenWeb Archives the 'Introduction' to NJ Archives Vol. 23, Calendar of Wills #1, which was written by William Nelson. Joe Patterson was kind enough to take my transcribings and put them into the RootsWeb's format, and to him I believe all should be grateful. The material covered the following chapters: EARLY WILL MAKING IN NEW JERSEY, Topics. [Topics 1-14 are in Part I, in these archives.] 1. Primitive Ideas of Property; The Descent of Property; Semitic Laws of Descent 2. Aryan Laws of Inheritance 3. Roman Testamentary Law; The Roman-dutch Law in New Netherlands 4. Some Dutch Wills and Administrations 5. English Testamentary Law 6. Nuncupative Wills 7. Earliest New York Legislation 8. Earliest Probates of Wills in New Jersey 9. A Newark Record of Some Wills 10. First New Jersey Legislation Regarding Wills 11. Jurisdiction of the Governor and Council 12. Prerogative Jurisdiction; Deputy Surrogates 13. Nuncupative Wills; "Letters Testimonial" 14. The Probate of Wills in the Provincial Era 15. Inconveniences in Probating Wills 16. Surrogates in the Provincial Times 17. Royal Encroachment on the Governor's Prerogative 18. Some Provincial Acts 19. Fees of the Prerogative Office; The Secretary's Fees 20. Wills as Conveyances of Lands 21. A Complicated Administration 22. Special Remedial Acts of the Legislature 23. Governor Franklin's Final Acts as Ordinary 24. Under the State Government 25. Special Acts for Settling Certain Estates 26. Change in the System of Recording Wills 27. The Appointment of Surrogates; Foreign Wills; Miscellaneous Acts. 28. Proposed Revision of the Orphans' Court Act 29. The Constitution of 1844; The Revisions of 1846, 1874 and 1898. 30. The Prerogative Seal I think it would be prudent, for those of you who may be interested in the background information about wards, orphans and guardians, to pay a visit to that site and read through the various notes concerning same. The transcribings were placed there in two (2) sections. Here are the links: ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/nj/statewide/wills/willmaking01.txt ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/nj/statewide/wills/willmaking02.txt There are a goodly number of names of residents of early NJ quoted in this transcription, which are not listed in the Index to Volume 23, so it may be worthwhile to visit the site to (maybe) find some good reference to an ancestor whom you might be having trouble with. I do hope this will help you all in learning a bit about the growth of NJ's laws regarding wills, etc. David - [email protected]; Sheridan Wyoming. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

Adding my well wishes to those of Pat -- and empathy ---- I also am just off a very nasty bout with something ugly -- five days of "near death" :))))!!!! REST and get well soon. Also, might I ask if there's any need for help with the cost of the hired typist. I could send a bit of a donation to help. Please do not hesitate to let me know. Stay well -- Terri

Just sending "rest well" and "heal before you jump back into work" messages to David. You are so valuable, we have to remind you that your health is most important right now. All of us can wait until you are recuperated. Take the time you need to really recover. Blessings and strength, Pat On Jun 4, 2007, at 6:23 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Chris & NJ List Members - I think, and this is just from memory as am > not at my home computer, that one of the earliest dates is abt 1680. > Please understand though that while we (collectively) are speaking of > orphan's records, there is a distinction that needs to be noted. > Since the managing of orphans' property began more earnestly > following the Revolution, AND records of wards and guardianship > appointments occurred in America as early as abt 1630 here in America, > we all tend to lump both situations together. This must not be done, > for the two are very different, and it seems to me to be primarily > because of the changing laws surrounding children who were to receive > property of one sort or another, and the management of estates of the > deceased, in general. > Each state was different of course, but they seemed all to take > hints from each to strengthen their own laws as to the rights of > children as pertains to inherited property. And one has to remember > that they all drew their laws from England, and the governours had > most of the power. > One must not consider these children as orphans alone, for some of > the entries I've seen indicate that their parents were still living, > but guardians needed to be appointed to handle property left by a > grandparent or some other relative. > By 1784, in NJ, it became necessary to charge appointed guardians > with specific duties, responsibilities and liabilities in the managing > of a child's property. The liability question came into play because > of abuse of estates entrusted to administrators or guardians who did > not fullfill their intended duty, or even stripped the estate of its > value. I believe this is best demonstrated by the remarrying of the > widows to men who then became the controller of the estates, and any > property. > By 1804 again it all changed once more whereby guardians were > permitted to sell a legatees property to satisfy the delinquency of an > estate. > The changing laws in 1804 and it's confirmation and > clarifications in 1820, with the establishment and authority of the > Orphan's Court in managing estates left to children and the probating > of wills associated as such, is well demonstrated in the NJ Archives > volumes dealing with the Abstracts of Wills, for the volumes of the > series which cover up to 1801 are filled with wards and appointed > guardians, whilst after that the remaining volumes have very little. > Again, this is only coming from memory at this juncture, as am > just back to work after a lengthy illness, and not recovered to where > I can cite facts as well as I'd like. Nor am I well enough to devote > as much energy to completing this bit of extracting, but as my health > improves, so will my output. > Am happy to see there is some interest, and as I said, will get > the material out as am able to complete each alphabetical letter. > For those of you who may be interested, other extraction projects > are planned or have been started - 1) PREACHERS & TEACHERS > 2)SOLDIERS & SAILORS - are ones which come to mind right off. As > well, I plan to produce a master list of entries from all the volumes, > in a single line of data, so folks can see better name patterns or > county/location patterns. I hope to include enough data so that > readers can tell the difference between a written will, a nuncupative > will (oral), someone who died intestate (without a will), or any other > entry. Although there does exist lists like this, for me who doesn't > have them, such a database would enable me to find entries falling > into a specific time period, or even a region, and the volume in which > I can find the material. That project is way down the line, but with > the assistance of the typist I've hired, perhaps the useable data we > can extract and transcribe will come to you all more often. > Have a nice day, ALL! David - [email protected] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJ- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Chris & NJ List Members - I think, and this is just from memory as am not at my home computer, that one of the earliest dates is abt 1680. Please understand though that while we (collectively) are speaking of orphan's records, there is a distinction that needs to be noted. Since the managing of orphans' property began more earnestly following the Revolution, AND records of wards and guardianship appointments occurred in America as early as abt 1630 here in America, we all tend to lump both situations together. This must not be done, for the two are very different, and it seems to me to be primarily because of the changing laws surrounding children who were to receive property of one sort or another, and the management of estates of the deceased, in general. Each state was different of course, but they seemed all to take hints from each to strengthen their own laws as to the rights of children as pertains to inherited property. And one has to remember that they all drew their laws from England, and the governours had most of the power. One must not consider these children as orphans alone, for some of the entries I've seen indicate that their parents were still living, but guardians needed to be appointed to handle property left by a grandparent or some other relative. By 1784, in NJ, it became necessary to charge appointed guardians with specific duties, responsibilities and liabilities in the managing of a child's property. The liability question came into play because of abuse of estates entrusted to administrators or guardians who did not fullfill their intended duty, or even stripped the estate of its value. I believe this is best demonstrated by the remarrying of the widows to men who then became the controller of the estates, and any property. By 1804 again it all changed once more whereby guardians were permitted to sell a legatees property to satisfy the delinquency of an estate. The changing laws in 1804 and it's confirmation and clarifications in 1820, with the establishment and authority of the Orphan's Court in managing estates left to children and the probating of wills associated as such, is well demonstrated in the NJ Archives volumes dealing with the Abstracts of Wills, for the volumes of the series which cover up to 1801 are filled with wards and appointed guardians, whilst after that the remaining volumes have very little. Again, this is only coming from memory at this juncture, as am just back to work after a lengthy illness, and not recovered to where I can cite facts as well as I'd like. Nor am I well enough to devote as much energy to completing this bit of extracting, but as my health improves, so will my output. Am happy to see there is some interest, and as I said, will get the material out as am able to complete each alphabetical letter. For those of you who may be interested, other extraction projects are planned or have been started - 1) PREACHERS & TEACHERS 2)SOLDIERS & SAILORS - are ones which come to mind right off. As well, I plan to produce a master list of entries from all the volumes, in a single line of data, so folks can see better name patterns or county/location patterns. I hope to include enough data so that readers can tell the difference between a written will, a nuncupative will (oral), someone who died intestate (without a will), or any other entry. Although there does exist lists like this, for me who doesn't have them, such a database would enable me to find entries falling into a specific time period, or even a region, and the volume in which I can find the material. That project is way down the line, but with the assistance of the typist I've hired, perhaps the useable data we can extract and transcribe will come to you all more often. Have a nice day, ALL! David - [email protected] ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.