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I found among my father's memorabilia, a program for graduation from 8th grade at Abraham Lincoln School, Number Nine, Paterson, NJ, 1914. Page One lists the Faculty and School Officers: William S. TWICHELL, Principal Faculty: Harriet J. OUTWIN, Mary CROWE, Matilda R. CLAXTON, Lillian J. RIDER, Elsie SCHNATZ, Anna HAAS, Anna ACKERMAN, Rae ARONSOHN, May SWEENEY, Chrissie CARDINAL, Sadie CONNOLLY, Jessie GEMEINHARDT, Emma CAUNCE, Ella MAHOOD, Mary PUTOZ, Lenora REINSMITH, Mary DIXON, Marion E. KENNA, Anne C. DUNN, Anne STORER, Anna SLATER, Mary WHALON, Carrie VAN WINKLE, Helen CHADWICK, Susie MURPHY, Mabel BENJAMIN, Edith SHANNON. SCHOOL OFFICERS: William J. ANDERSON, President; William HAND, Vice-Pres.; Frederick AIMONE, William J. BRIDGES, Robert BARBOUR, Louis F. BRAUN, John M. NOLAN, Leonard STOLK, John R. WILSON (Supt. of Schools); Andrew F. McBRIDE, Mayor. CLASS OF JANUARY, 1914...OFFICERS: Gordon Wilson AITKEN, President Leslie Louis ALLEN, Vice-President (my ancestor) Doris Emma LEE, Treasurer Richard BASMAJIAN, Secretary Class Members: Gordon Wilson AITKEN; Leslie Louis ALLEN; Samuel ADAMSON; Anna May BARRIE; Clarence Curtis BROWN; Richard BASMAJIAN; Cornelius BREEN; Edna May BRUGGEMAN; Olga Anna BOHNY; Sarah COCHRANE; Birdie Florita COHEN; Gladys DUDDLESTON; Margaret High FIELDHOUSE; Elsis Frieda Franke; William Wallace FAIRCLOUGH; Raymond Douglas FARRAR; Sadie HOLSTEIN; John HANNUSH; Mary Dunlap JOHNSTON; Mary Josephine KRAUS; Lena KUYL; Augusta Henrietta KLING; Veronica Mary KELLIHER; Jennie Newman KIDD;Doris Emma LEE; Mary Morkling LAMBERT; Ida McULLOUGH; John George MOTT; Paul Frederick MILLER; John MITCHELL; David Robert PEARMAN; Harry Christ POST; Ross POLLARA; Marilda Eliza ROBERTS; Elvera RENNEBERG; Harry SCHAGEN; Elmer WILLMOTT; Edward George WILLIAMS; Adelaide Lillian YOUNG; Alexander ZITO. [email protected] "Land of the free BECAUSE of the brave" ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Thanks so much for answering my post. You were the only one so I hope that you do not mind if I ask one more question. I have ordered films from step number two so that I can go on to step number three. Will papers in step number three lead to unrecorded Estate Papers or is that just hit or miss? Is there something listed in the papers of step number three that I can use to order the proper numbers in the Estate papers? Thanks, Joan -------------- Original message -------------- From: Michelle Chubenko <[email protected]> > [email protected] wrote: > > Is there anyone out there that has worked with the NJ Surrogate court records > for Union County? Especially using the LDS/FHC? > > The reason that I ask--I ordered thru LDS the Index for Surr. Ct rec. I found > several names that are useful to me. The instructions say that then I should > order the film containing the docket numbers that I need, which I have done. > > Under the same title it also lists Will, releases, administrations and > unrecorded papers, lots of unrecorded papers. > > Will the docket papers lead me to the other papers, if they were recorded? If > not how do I choose from all the unrecorded papers. There are no dates > associated with the unrecorded papers, only volume numbers. > > Thanks > > Joan > > Joan, > > Here's a quick run-down of how to get to the estate files you wish to > view using the appropriate LDS Family History Center film numbers. > > Step One: > Consult the Docket Index to find matching entries and make note of the > Docket Number (#1-10000). > *Index to surrogate's dockets, A-G, 1857-1949 - FHL Film [ 914365 ] > *Index to surrogate's dockets, H-R, 1857-1949 - FHL Film [ 914366 ] > *Index to surrogate's dockets, S-Z, 1857-1949 - FHL Film [ 914367 ] > > tep Two: > Consult the Proceeding Index to determine what type of estate and the > paperwork that was filed for the estate. > *Surrogate's dockets, nos. 1-2000 - FHL Film [ 914369 ] > *Surrogate's dockets, nos. 2001-6000 - FHL Film [ 914370 ] > *Surrogate's dockets, nos. 6001-10000 - FHL Film [ 914165 ] > > Step Three: > Consult the appropriate record groups based on the information recorded > in the Proceedings Indexes: > *Applications for probate of will > *Will Books > *Applications for administrations > *Releases > *Orphans court records > *Administrators & guardians bonds > > Step Four: > Consult the Unrecorded Estate Papers files to review paperwork filed in > addition to that listed in the Proceedings Index. > *Unrecorded estate papers, nos. 1-8603 (covers 1857-circa1900) are > available through a LDS Family History Center. > > Hope this helps answer your questions. > > Regards, > Shell > > > -- > Michelle Tucker Chubenko > Member, Association of Professional Genealogists > http://www.chubenko.us/profgen/index.htm > "Things don't turn up in this world until somebody turns them up." > - James A. Garfield > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > NJGenWeb: Warren County - http://www.rootsweb.com/~njwarren > OKGenWeb Adair Co.: http://www.rootsweb.com/~okadair/adaircty.htm > AdairCoArch: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ok/adair/adair.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message

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But if you know the book and pages they will make copies. I have done this several times. The charge was $7.50 plus copy costs which I thought was very reasonable. Dot ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 8:51 AM Subject: Re: [NJ] Book Lookup, Please > > The Allen County (Indiana) Library responded: "No, our material does not > circulate, but our Research Center can assist you by mail. Print and use > the form at > http://www.acpl.lib.in.us/genealogy/ResearchServicesRequest.pdf" > > You'll see they want $25 pre-paid, for up to an hour on a single research > question. Having your nearest LDS center order the films (as another > reader mentioned) is another way to go, as is visiting the NJ Archives in > Trenton. I will not be pursuing any of these routes myself, since the > Index did not cover South Jersey counties, but perhaps a couple of other > readers will want to team up, off list. > > Quoting Terri <[email protected]>: (clip) the Indiana Library Delores speaks > of is definitely a surprising source of NJ info. I have used them and > posted this source a few times on other NJ lists. > > Quoting Stephanie Miller <[email protected]>: (clip) "Index to Damages > in New Jersey by the British and Americans, 1776-1782" . . . I would > appreciate a lookup for the surname LEE. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

The Allen County (Indiana) Library responded: "No, our material does not circulate, but our Research Center can assist you by mail. Print and use the form at http://www.acpl.lib.in.us/genealogy/ResearchServicesRequest.pdf" You'll see they want $25 pre-paid, for up to an hour on a single research question. Having your nearest LDS center order the films (as another reader mentioned) is another way to go, as is visiting the NJ Archives in Trenton. I will not be pursuing any of these routes myself, since the Index did not cover South Jersey counties, but perhaps a couple of other readers will want to team up, off list. Quoting Terri <[email protected]>: (clip) the Indiana Library Delores speaks of is definitely a surprising source of NJ info. I have used them and posted this source a few times on other NJ lists. Quoting Stephanie Miller <[email protected]>: (clip) "Index to Damages in New Jersey by the British and Americans, 1776-1782" . . . I would appreciate a lookup for the surname LEE. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

It is also a source for many states. I have used it many times for CT. They will copy and mail any article I ask for and the rates are reasonable. Have gotten many TAG articles from them. Dot ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terri" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 10:39 AM Subject: [NJ] Book lookup please > > Delores and all - > > I, in no way, meant to imply that one should give up looking for ones > ancestors. My thought is that IF there's a source out there that tells > us which records are destroyed or unavailable, it saves us the struggle > of looking for them. Especially us folks who live great distances and > are relying on long distance research and/or the generousity of others, > and suffer the shortage of extra cash for research. > Like most all of us, I'm having total difficulty in finding birth or > death info on a certain individual, back in the mid-to-late 1700's, and > have an "idea" that perhaps these records have been destroyed. It would > definitely help me to know what not to bother looking for. > > And let me add that the Indiana Library Delores speaks of is definitely > a surprising source of NJ info. I have used them and posted this source > a few times on other NJ lists. > > Stay well all -- Terri in faraway WA > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

Delores and all - I, in no way, meant to imply that one should give up looking for ones ancestors. My thought is that IF there's a source out there that tells us which records are destroyed or unavailable, it saves us the struggle of looking for them. Especially us folks who live great distances and are relying on long distance research and/or the generousity of others, and suffer the shortage of extra cash for research. Like most all of us, I'm having total difficulty in finding birth or death info on a certain individual, back in the mid-to-late 1700's, and have an "idea" that perhaps these records have been destroyed. It would definitely help me to know what not to bother looking for. And let me add that the Indiana Library Delores speaks of is definitely a surprising source of NJ info. I have used them and posted this source a few times on other NJ lists. Stay well all -- Terri in faraway WA

[email protected] wrote: > Is there anyone out there that has worked with the NJ Surrogate court records for Union County? Especially using the LDS/FHC? > The reason that I ask--I ordered thru LDS the Index for Surr. Ct rec. I found several names that are useful to me. The instructions say that then I should order the film containing the docket numbers that I need, which I have done. > Under the same title it also lists Will, releases, administrations and unrecorded papers, lots of unrecorded papers. > Will the docket papers lead me to the other papers, if they were recorded? If not how do I choose from all the unrecorded papers. There are no dates associated with the unrecorded papers, only volume numbers. > Thanks > Joan Joan, Here's a quick run-down of how to get to the estate files you wish to view using the appropriate LDS Family History Center film numbers. Step One: Consult the Docket Index to find matching entries and make note of the Docket Number (#1-10000). *Index to surrogate's dockets, A-G, 1857-1949 - FHL Film [ 914365 ] *Index to surrogate's dockets, H-R, 1857-1949 - FHL Film [ 914366 ] *Index to surrogate's dockets, S-Z, 1857-1949 - FHL Film [ 914367 ] tep Two: Consult the Proceeding Index to determine what type of estate and the paperwork that was filed for the estate. *Surrogate's dockets, nos. 1-2000 - FHL Film [ 914369 ] *Surrogate's dockets, nos. 2001-6000 - FHL Film [ 914370 ] *Surrogate's dockets, nos. 6001-10000 - FHL Film [ 914165 ] Step Three: Consult the appropriate record groups based on the information recorded in the Proceedings Indexes: *Applications for probate of will *Will Books *Applications for administrations *Releases *Orphans court records *Administrators & guardians bonds Step Four: Consult the Unrecorded Estate Papers files to review paperwork filed in addition to that listed in the Proceedings Index. *Unrecorded estate papers, nos. 1-8603 (covers 1857-circa1900) are available through a LDS Family History Center. Hope this helps answer your questions. Regards, Shell -- Michelle Tucker Chubenko Member, Association of Professional Genealogists http://www.chubenko.us/profgen/index.htm "Things don't turn up in this world until somebody turns them up." - James A. Garfield ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ NJGenWeb: Warren County - http://www.rootsweb.com/~njwarren OKGenWeb Adair Co.: http://www.rootsweb.com/~okadair/adaircty.htm AdairCoArch: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ok/adair/adair.html

Dolores & all, This really isn't a book. In the Allen County Public Library (largest genie collection EAST of the Mississippi) e-zine, a review written by ACPL Librarian John D. Beatty was published (in early 2006?) highlighting this collection. The NJ State Archives has a detailed catalog page on this manuscript collection, which includes a description of what is on each microfilm roll: http://www.njarchives.org/links/guides/sle00003.html Also, the record series is available on microfilm through a local LDS Family History Center as well. Here are the details from FamilySearch's catalog: Damages in New Jersey by the British and Americans, 1776-1782 Notes: Microfilm of original records. Includes index. Contains an inventory of damages done and goods taken by the British and American Armies during the Revolutionary War, for the following counties: Bergen, Burlington, Essex, Hudson, Hunterdon, Mercer, Middlesex, Monmouth, Morris, Passaic, Somerset. Format: Manuscript (On Film) Language: English Publication: Trenton, New Jersey : Microfilm and Record Unit, 1964 Film Notes: Note - Location [Film] Surname index to damages - FHL US/CAN Film [ 888698 ] Damages - FHL US/CAN Film [ 888699 ] Damages - FHL US/CAN Film [ 888700 ] [email protected] wrote: > Did anyone respond to this? Sounds like an interesting book! > > A fellow genealogy sufferer, Dolores > > > Quoting Stephanie Miller <[email protected]>: > >> Hello, Does anyone on the list have the book, "Index to Damages in New >> Jersey by the British and Americans, 1776-1782" by John D. Beatty? I >> would appreciate a lookup for the surname LEE. Thank you very much. >> Stephanie in Oregon -- Michelle Tucker Chubenko Member, Association of Professional Genealogists http://www.chubenko.us/profgen/index.htm "Things don't turn up in this world until somebody turns them up." - James A. Garfield ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ NJGenWeb: Warren County - http://www.rootsweb.com/~njwarren OKGenWeb Adair Co.: http://www.rootsweb.com/~okadair/adaircty.htm AdairCoArch: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ok/adair/adair.html

Quoting Terri <[email protected]>: > Adding to Delaware Delores --- this book sounds like a good source of > what NOT to look for -- 'cause you're not gonna find it!! :)))))) Stephanie Miller wrote back to me, saying she would next check on its availability through WORLDCAT. That's a healthier attitude than "you're not gonna find it." (Good grief!) Meanwhile, a Google search immediately brought to light that a large Indiana library has the desired Index on microfilm. Cut and paste the below URL into your browser: Index http://www.friendsofallencounty.org/search_microtext.php They have a surprisingly New Jersey section, so readers may find something else they wish to order via Interlibrary Loan. I wrote to the Allen County, Indiana library via e-mail, asking if they'd mind looking up my one name (Langley) rather than bother doing an ILL, especially since I found in the details that the Index contains only northern counties. My Langley, a Loyalist, would be from Salem or another southern county. The original Index docs and films are at the NJ State Archives. Happy Huntin'! -- Delaware Dolores ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

Adding to Delaware Delores --- this book sounds like a good source of what NOT to look for -- 'cause you're not gonna find it!! :)))))) Hope everyone's 4th was safe and happy -- Terri

Did anyone respond to this? Sounds like an interesting book! A fellow genealogy sufferer, Dolores Quoting Stephanie Miller <[email protected]>: > Hello, Does anyone on the list have the book, "Index to Damages in New > Jersey by the British and Americans, 1776-1782" by John D. Beatty? I > would > appreciate a lookup for the surname LEE. Thank you very much. > Stephanie in > Oregon > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

Hi Linda, Thank you for your reaction. I think however there is not any chance that someone named "Visscher" can be a descendant of someone called Vissers. Visscher is a rather common last name in Holland. Vissers is more unknown. I am about sure that "my" Paul Vissers had Dutch roots, just like his wife. But.. thanks again for the suggestion. Ruut van den Bree. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Parthum" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 7:41 PM Subject: [NJ] Vissers > This may not be conntected at all but... I had a friend from college (in > the 1970s) and her last name was "Visscher". She had been born and > raised in Peru but the story as I remember it was that her Dad left > Holland at the start of WWII. What do you think??? Probably not related > to a Visser in the US in the 1920s but maybe related somehow? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

This may not be conntected at all but... I had a friend from college (in the 1970s) and her last name was "Visscher". She had been born and raised in Peru but the story as I remember it was that her Dad left Holland at the start of WWII. What do you think??? Probably not related to a Visser in the US in the 1920s but maybe related somehow?

Hello List, I'm looking for information about Paul VISSERS. He was an attorney, married with Dorothy VANDENBREE. b. 05-04-1923 Paterson. Did they have children? Thank you from Holland, Ruut van den Bree.

Is there anyone out there that has worked with the NJ Surrogate court records for Union County? Especially using the LDS/FHC? The reason that I ask--I ordered thru LDS the Index for Surr. Ct rec. I found several names that are useful to me. The instructions say that then I should order the film containing the docket numbers that I need, which I have done. Under the same title it also lists Will, releases, administrations and unrecorded papers, lots of unrecorded papers. Will the docket papers lead me to the other papers, if they were recorded? If not how do I choose from all the unrecorded papers. There are no dates associated with the unrecorded papers, only volume numbers. Thanks Joan

Hi Pat, Yes. I have all information of the 1910/1930 Census. Thank you for doing this look up for me. Ruut. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 8:56 PM Subject: Re: [NJ] Van den Bree > They are listed on the 1910 census for Passaic New Jersey. > > James H wife Florence > and > James, father > Anicke, mother. > > Do you have that information? > > I did not find them on the 1900 census however. But could be a problem in > how the census taker listened to their last name. > > Pat > cw > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

When these stories pop up from time to time, it really tugs at my heart. I've seen many, many piles of photos at junk and antique stores and so wished I could buy them all and find their owners. I found an old year book once, from a school here in WA, that I was able to purchase. After running a notice of it on the appropriate WA county mail list, with no response, I turned it over to a research library here. Don't guess they're interested in taking on photos, but most Historical or Genealogical Societies will. At least then one knows they're not just "lost" forever!! Hope all are well and happy -- Terri in WA