HI! I would LOVE to find more information on my side of the family via my maiden name. But, being a female this isn't possible, right? I know of just one relative who might do it if I could find him. All I know is he's in CA. Any suggestions? ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 10:26 PM Subject: Re: [NJ] NJ Digest, Vol 2, Issue 273 > On the DNA testing, my husband is in a DNA project and we have found > several > exact 12 marker matches - which means they shared a common ancestor > somewhere in the past. He has tested to the 37 marker match and has > found several > that are only 1 or 2 markers distant - which means that there is a common > ancestor - we are slowly narrowing down the oldest common ancestor and > will > hopefully find a good match. It's very interesting - Joanne in AZ > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.8/993 - Release Date: 9/6/2007 > 3:18 PM > >

Joan- In response to your question. You can have an mtDNA test run for the female line-it is much more difficult to trace and MUCH more costly-like $400 as opposed to about $150 for the male line. These are ballpark prices. Each company has their own price lists. Peggie in OR "HI! I would LOVE to find more information on my side of the family via my maiden name. But, being a female this isn't possible, right? I know of just one relative who might do it if I could find him. All I know is he's in CA. Any suggestions?" No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.10/995 - Release Date: 9/8/2007 1:24 PM

NJ??? Into the 21st? Please................not in my life time!! Giggle Giggle! ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [NJ] NJ Vital records > Wonder if New Jersey is going to get into the 21st Century. > Sry, > just a joke. > >>From the Chicago Tribune > > Old county records being put online > > By Jason Meisner | Tribune staff reporter 9:56 PM CDT, September 6, 2007 > Professional genealogists and people interested in researching their > family > tree > will soon be able to access key records from home instead of ordering by > mail > > or traipsing down to a musty office in the Loop, Cook County Clerk David > Orr > said Thursday. > > If all goes as planned, newly digitized versions of county records such as > birth and death certificates and marriage licenses will be available > beginning > in January on one searchable Web site that will revolutionize how such > research > is done, Orr said. > > "It's going to be a big boon for us and for the genealogy folks who have > to > go through us to get the records," Orr said. "It will allow them to go > online > > to see if the records exist, to find relatives and purchase copies > online." > > > > > The Web site is part of a massive yearlong effort to digitize the county's > 24 > > million vital records, which date to 1871, when record-keeping began after > the Chicago Fire wiped out previous stockpiles, clerk's office spokeswoman > Kelley Quinn said. > > The records have stacked up for decades in the basement area of the > county's > administration building at Clark and Randolph Streets, where conditions > have > not been ideal. > > "We've had rats, floods, fires, bugs, you name it," Orr said. > > Over the years, the county has made special efforts to save some records, > including employing a special "freeze-drying" process to restore documents > that > had water damage, he said. > > Scanning and indexing each record was completed in June, and the county is > uploading about 1 million files per week into a computer server, a process > that > is expected to be complete by the end of the year, Quinn said. > > "Everything will be updated and fully digitized at that point," Quinn > said. > Once the digitizing process is complete, Cook County will be one of the > first > > counties in the U.S. to have all such materials stored electronically, she > said. > > The genealogy Web site will offer a tutorial for people interested in > researching family trees and allow users to search for relatives by name. > Once the > proper person is found, users can pay a fee to download records and print > them > at home. > > Documents available online will be birth certificates that are at least 75 > years old, marriage certificates more than 50 years old, and death > certificates > more than 20 years old, Quinn said. > > She said that certified copies, which are required to obtain official > documents such as a driver's license, will not be available online. > > No Social Security numbers will be available on the online documents, she > said. > > > > > ************************************** > > > > > > > > > ************************************** > See what's new at http://www.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Wow! Isn't that wonderful. A dream come true for genealogists. Can you imagine being able to research and get copies of birth, marriage, and death records online?! I only wish I had ancestors from Chicago. :-) Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [NJ] NJ Vital records Wonder if New Jersey is going to get into the 21st Century. Sry, just a joke. >From the Chicago Tribune Old county records being put online By Jason Meisner | Tribune staff reporter 9:56 PM CDT, September 6, 2007 Professional genealogists and people interested in researching their family tree will soon be able to access key records from home instead of ordering by mail or traipsing down to a musty office in the Loop, Cook County Clerk David Orr said Thursday. If all goes as planned, newly digitized versions of county records such as birth and death certificates and marriage licenses will be available beginning in January on one searchable Web site that will revolutionize how such research is done, Orr said. "It's going to be a big boon for us and for the genealogy folks who have to go through us to get the records," Orr said. "It will allow them to go online to see if the records exist, to find relatives and purchase copies online." The Web site is part of a massive yearlong effort to digitize the county's 24 million vital records, which date to 1871, when record-keeping began after the Chicago Fire wiped out previous stockpiles, clerk's office spokeswoman Kelley Quinn said. The records have stacked up for decades in the basement area of the county's administration building at Clark and Randolph Streets, where conditions have not been ideal. "We've had rats, floods, fires, bugs, you name it," Orr said. Over the years, the county has made special efforts to save some records, including employing a special "freeze-drying" process to restore documents that had water damage, he said. Scanning and indexing each record was completed in June, and the county is uploading about 1 million files per week into a computer server, a process that is expected to be complete by the end of the year, Quinn said. "Everything will be updated and fully digitized at that point," Quinn said. Once the digitizing process is complete, Cook County will be one of the first counties in the U.S. to have all such materials stored electronically, she said. The genealogy Web site will offer a tutorial for people interested in researching family trees and allow users to search for relatives by name. Once the proper person is found, users can pay a fee to download records and print them at home. Documents available online will be birth certificates that are at least 75 years old, marriage certificates more than 50 years old, and death certificates more than 20 years old, Quinn said. She said that certified copies, which are required to obtain official documents such as a driver's license, will not be available online. No Social Security numbers will be available on the online documents, she said. ************************************** ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ NOD32 2514 (20070908) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com

Wonder if New Jersey is going to get into the 21st Century. Sry, just a joke. >From the Chicago Tribune Old county records being put online By Jason Meisner | Tribune staff reporter 9:56 PM CDT, September 6, 2007 Professional genealogists and people interested in researching their family tree will soon be able to access key records from home instead of ordering by mail or traipsing down to a musty office in the Loop, Cook County Clerk David Orr said Thursday. If all goes as planned, newly digitized versions of county records such as birth and death certificates and marriage licenses will be available beginning in January on one searchable Web site that will revolutionize how such research is done, Orr said. "It's going to be a big boon for us and for the genealogy folks who have to go through us to get the records," Orr said. "It will allow them to go online to see if the records exist, to find relatives and purchase copies online." The Web site is part of a massive yearlong effort to digitize the county's 24 million vital records, which date to 1871, when record-keeping began after the Chicago Fire wiped out previous stockpiles, clerk's office spokeswoman Kelley Quinn said. The records have stacked up for decades in the basement area of the county's administration building at Clark and Randolph Streets, where conditions have not been ideal. "We've had rats, floods, fires, bugs, you name it," Orr said. Over the years, the county has made special efforts to save some records, including employing a special "freeze-drying" process to restore documents that had water damage, he said. Scanning and indexing each record was completed in June, and the county is uploading about 1 million files per week into a computer server, a process that is expected to be complete by the end of the year, Quinn said. "Everything will be updated and fully digitized at that point," Quinn said. Once the digitizing process is complete, Cook County will be one of the first counties in the U.S. to have all such materials stored electronically, she said. The genealogy Web site will offer a tutorial for people interested in researching family trees and allow users to search for relatives by name. Once the proper person is found, users can pay a fee to download records and print them at home. Documents available online will be birth certificates that are at least 75 years old, marriage certificates more than 50 years old, and death certificates more than 20 years old, Quinn said. She said that certified copies, which are required to obtain official documents such as a driver's license, will not be available online. No Social Security numbers will be available on the online documents, she said. ************************************** ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

I, too, was able to go to the Allen Co. library several years ago when I lived in Ohio...amazing collections and nice people to help. I also used their "mail in " research service and got some help. My husband even found some things on his immigrant ancestors...great place...Mayann, Ft. Myers, FL [email protected] "Land of the free BECAUSE of the brave" ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Thanks so much for the additional info on the library Pat. It's very helpful. I guess I should've posted that I haven't had much experience with the library in terms of researching -- mainly because my life this summer has not been my own -- :)))), but have dealt with them a while back for a RevWar issue, and have since learned of their very extensive genealogy holdings. And --- Lucky You Scott -- who gets to drive for hands on research!!! I really do recommend subbing to the "Genealogy Gems" newsletter. Even tho I'm not looking for any Irish folks at present, I got pretty excited at the Rebellion Papers being available for folks who are looking for Irish rellies. Stay well all -- Terri in WA

Pat, Thanks for your interest. Did all those McCormick's below Justine ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [NJ] Letter A > Ditto the same for your Hiram McCormick. > > There are a few listed on familysearch.org. > > They are of Michigan, and New Jersey, and New York. > > Have you tried to tie in with those information off the 1880 Census > Records??? > > Pat > cw > > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL > at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.7/992 - Release Date: 9/6/2007 > 8:36 AM > >

[email protected] Several participants have found matches of people that were unknown to them as family. Many of the early families had many children and it's hard to trace every member to see if they are "your" family. Some participants started with the basic 12 marker test and when they found matches, same surname of course, they each would have more markers tested. Some were successful and are working together now to find the paper work. In my case I had proven, tenuously, my family was connected with the immigrant Willem Gerritsen, NY. So anyone matching my DNA would have the same immigrant ancestor. Why Gerritsen to Williamson? Dutch patronymics. Willem Gerritsen's children had the surname Willemsen. When the English took over NY (New Netherlands) the patronymics were stopped. Willemsen became Williamson. Also, my line has been published in the NYG&B Society's RECORD down to my 5th g grandparents, who farmed in NJ. The tenuous part was finding the paper work to prove my 3rd g grandfather was tied to a NJ William Williamson. I have since found proof of this relationship. In my own case I found two new cousins, 1 in Iowa, my home state, and another in NJ where my 5th g grandparents came to farm from NY. The cousin in NJ and I have been finding more and more paper work that ties our families together. The Iowa cousin had a cousin that had put their paper work together and was instrumental in getting the "Gerritsen to Williamson" published in the RECORD. Because the rules demand privacy, unless there is a match one member doesn't know names and addresses of another. Then to make sure, as administrator of the project, I ask each member if they would like to communicate with their match. Please visit my web site. I have pictures of Burial Ground found on my 5th g grandparents farm in NJ. The Boy Scouts have cleaned up and my cousins in NJ are doing their best to maintain it. They have also found more markers. There is a list of names at my web site. There is also some copies of court records published at the site. I am working on getting more records at the site. If you have any more questions, please ask. _ Richard Williamson Tucson, AZ y-chromosome DNA Project Adm. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~williamsondnaproject/INDEX.htm _ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~williamsondnaproject/INDEX.htm) ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Sharon - our surname is CASE. I have heard of Katura somewhere, will have to check my files. Let me know what you have and will be glad to share my CASE line - documented to 1800. Joanne in AZ ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Thanks Pat On 9/7/07, Patricia Brown <[email protected]> wrote: > > The home page for Allen County Public Library can be found here: > www.acpl.lib.in.us/ > If you click on the catalog, called "webcat", you can make a > Bookmark, or Favorite, and consult it anytime. You can type in "New > Jersey" > Have fun. Pat > > On Sep 7, 2007, at 7:24 PM, Ann Brown wrote: > > > Does anyone know what holdings Allen County Library has in > > reference to NJ > > records. Someone has said you can get the films on inter library > > loan. but > > what do they have to help a NJ searcher. > > > > -- > > Ann Brown " Cookie" > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJ- > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > -- Ann Brown " Cookie"

I find this DNA converation intersting. I remain curious, how far back does your paper trail go and what have you learned from DNA to enhance your knwledge of ancestors and/or asspcoated luines you were not familiar with. On the DNA testing, my husband is in a DNA project and we have found several exact 12 marker matches - which means they shared a common ancestor somewhere in the past. He has tested to the 37 marker match and has found several that are only 1 or 2 markers distant - which means that there is a common ancestor - we are slowly narrowing down the oldest common ancestor and will hopefully find a good match. It's very interesting - Joanne in AZ ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Peggy, Have you come across an Elijah Lott or Mary Case Lott in your research. Mary is my 2gr grandmother born 1829 and lived her married life in Hunterdon County NJ. Her son was Elijah Lott Rockafellow. Thanks, Sharon

On the DNA testing, my husband is in a DNA project and we have found several exact 12 marker matches - which means they shared a common ancestor somewhere in the past. He has tested to the 37 marker match and has found several that are only 1 or 2 markers distant - which means that there is a common ancestor - we are slowly narrowing down the oldest common ancestor and will hopefully find a good match. It's very interesting - Joanne in AZ ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Curious, what did you ffind out from this DNA testing that was unique and enhanced ur knowledge base on your ancestors which you did not already know from having a definitive paper trail ?? Would I be correct in assuming that the results were somewhat generalized and nor difinitive. Here is my suggestion. Go to this web site: http://www.ftdna.com/ On the right hand side of the page is a small window to enter a surname. For instance my surname is Williamson. Type Williamson and you will see I have 53 participants in my project, but a total of 68 Williamsons are participating. Some have entered in other surname projects. Genetic Genealogy has a web site and they have surname projects also. http://www.dnaancestryproject.com/ Oxford Ancestors has a project. http://www.oxfordancestors.com/ Richard ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Hi! You need to click on the box that says Allen Co.Public Library for a virtual tour. There are 2 sections to it. Very interesting! http://rootstelevision.com/index.html Sincerely, Pam Drake in IN.

Ann, the ACPL has the second largest genealogy collection for a public library! Google 'ACPL' Try its catalog. I keep the catalog on my Bookmarks so I can search anytime for a title I hope to find. Pat On Sep 7, 2007, at 7:24 PM, Ann Brown wrote: > Does anyone know what holdings Allen County Library has in > reference to NJ > records. Someone has said you can get the films on inter library > loan. but > what do they have to help a NJ searcher. > > -- > Ann Brown " Cookie" > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJ- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Here is my suggestion. Go to this web site: http://www.ftdna.com/ On the right hand side of the page is a small window to enter a surname. For instance my surname is Williamson. Type Williamson and you will see I have 53 participants in my project, but a total of 68 Williamsons are participating. Some have entered in other surname projects. Genetic Genealogy has a web site and they have surname projects also. http://www.dnaancestryproject.com/ Oxford Ancestors has a project. http://www.oxfordancestors.com/ Richard ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

thank you [email protected] wrote: Here is my suggestion. Go to this web site: http://www.ftdna.com/ On the right hand side of the page is a small window to enter a surname. For instance my surname is Williamson. Type Williamson and you will see I have 53 participants in my project, but a total of 68 Williamsons are participating. Some have entered in other surname projects. Genetic Genealogy has a web site and they have surname projects also. http://www.dnaancestryproject.com/ Oxford Ancestors has a project. http://www.oxfordancestors.com/ Richard ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us.

thank you [email protected] wrote: Curious, what did you ffind out from this DNA testing that was unique and enhanced ur knowledge base on your ancestors which you did not already know from having a definitive paper trail ?? Would I be correct in assuming that the results were somewhat generalized and nor difinitive. Here is my suggestion. Go to this web site: http://www.ftdna.com/ On the right hand side of the page is a small window to enter a surname. For instance my surname is Williamson. Type Williamson and you will see I have 53 participants in my project, but a total of 68 Williamsons are participating. Some have entered in other surname projects. Genetic Genealogy has a web site and they have surname projects also. http://www.dnaancestryproject.com/ Oxford Ancestors has a project. http://www.oxfordancestors.com/ Richard ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids.