Gary, Much info on both families is in Denissen's "French families of the Detroit River Region". Elizabeth Peltier is my 1st cousin 7 times removed. Her husband John Baptist Leduc is my 3rd cousin 6 times removed. (the old family tree gets a bit narrow when dealing with a lot of the early French settlers. Note: John Baptist Leduc's parents were Phil Leduc and Mary Joseph/Jossette Peltier. Here is a bit. 1. John Baptist Leduc was born 2 Jun 1765 in North East Coast of Detroit, Wayne, County, Michigan. John married Elisabeth Peltier, daughter of Andrew Peltier and Mary Catherine Meloche, on 29 May 1797 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Elisabeth was born 11 Jul 1780 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. She was buried 26 Sep 1809 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. They had the following children: 2 F i. Frances Leduc was born 9 Mar 1798 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Frances married Francis Oullette, son of John Baptist Oullette and Geneveva Oulette, on 24 Jun 1817 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Francis was born 6 Apr 1794 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. 3 F ii. Angelica Leduc was born 4 Aug 1799 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Angelica married John Chrysostom Casavan dit Ladebauche, son of Peter Casavan dit Ladebauche and Jane/Mary Jane Villers dit St Louis. John was born 28 Jul 1798 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. He was buried 8 Sep 1832 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. 4 F iii. Rose Leduc was born 15 Sep 1801 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Rose married Joseph Dubay, son of Andrew Dubay and Margaret Noriau, on 3 Nov 1819 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Joseph was born in Terrebonne, Lower Canada. 5 F iv. Catherine Leduc was born 20 Dec 1802 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. She was buried 17 Nov 1808 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. 6 F v. Elisabeth Lucy Leduc was born 12 Dec 1804 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Elisabeth married Anthony Charon dit Cabanac, son of Augustin Charon dit Cabanac and Mary Ann Jacques Andre, on 20 Feb 1821 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Anthony was born 23 Sep 1800 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. He was buried 3 Dec 1856 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. 7 F vi. Anastasia Leduc was born 10 Mar 1807 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Anastasia married (1) Hippolyte Gouyou, son of Louis Gouyou and Teresa Janis/Janisse, on 17 Jan 1826 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Hippolyte was born 6 Feb 1795 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. He was buried 27 Jul 1837 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Anastasia also married (2) Anthony Reaume, son of Anthony Reaume and Charlotte Villers dit St Louis, on 10 Sep 1843 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Anthony was born 2 Apr 1813 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. 8 F vii. Archange Leduc was born 1 Mar 1809 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. She was buried 26 Feb 1843 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Archange married Louis St. Amour, son of John Baptist Payet dit St Amour and Josette Leduc, on 18 Jan 1831 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Louis was born 14 Sep 1802 in Montreal, Quebec, Canada. He was buried 6 Apr 1884 in Windsor, Ontario, Canada. Don Davenport --- Gary Boivin <gboivin@telusplanet.net> wrote: > Searching for the parents of the following couple > > Jean Baptiste LEDUC > m May 29 1797 Windsor, Essex, Ontario > Elisabeth PELLETIER-PELTIER > > I have one daughter for this couple... > Elisabeth LEDUC > born Dec 12 1804 Sandwich, Ontario > m Feb 20 1821 Assumption, Sandwich, Ontario > Antoine CHARON-dit-CABANAC > born Sep 23 1800, died Dec 03 1856 in Sandwich > s/o Augustin CHARON-dit-CABANAC & Anne M. ANDRE > > � C'est comme �a que s' passe dans l' temps des > f�tes > Tap � la galette... Les gar�on les filles avec > C'est comme �a que s' passe dans l' temps des f�tes > C'est comme �a que s' passe dans l' temps du jour de > l'an� > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the > new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click > to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003 http://search.yahoo.com/top2003

Thank you for this info... I usually hesitate using Denissen's book because of all the spelling errors --- he anglicized all the names using a formula that was mainly his so it is sometimes difficult to figure out what the real name was. The Detroit Genealogical Society once considered trashing his book but decided that it was a valid research tool even with all the errors and spelling mistakes --- a tool to point where to look. Some easy names to figure out are: John Baptist = Jean Baptiste Mary Joseph = Marie Josephe or Josephte Andrew = Andre Geneva, Geneveva = Genevieve Angelica = Angelique (rare does a French name end in "a") (note I said RARE.. not NEVER) Anthony = Antoine or Antonio Lucy = Lucie DUBAY = DUBE But then we encounter Philip... I've found these to be Philippe, Philias, Philedelge, Philemon, Phileon or Philbert. Then there's James... Can be Jacques or Jamire. Joseph can be Josaphat, Jose, Josephin, or any other male name that he couldn't divine an English equivalent. And Nelson... Usually Narcisse but can be Naroise, Narcoise, or Naripe And Herman can be Hermel, Hermenegilde, Hermenez, Hermentin or Hermes. Elijah can be Elias or Lias, Eliphe, Elis oe Elizee I once had a copy of Ste-Anne's Répertoire and also Assumptions that I could cross-reference with but they went with my ex-wife in the divorce. <sigh> Have a GREAT weekend........... Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Davenport" <dfdavenport@yahoo.com> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] Jean Baptiste LEDUC & Elisabeth PELLETIER > Gary, > > Much info on both families is in Denissen's "French > families of the Detroit River Region". > > Elizabeth Peltier is my 1st cousin 7 times removed. > Her husband John Baptist Leduc is my 3rd cousin 6 > times removed. (the old family tree gets a bit narrow > when dealing with a lot of the early French settlers. > > Note: John Baptist Leduc's parents were Phil Leduc and > Mary Joseph/Jossette Peltier. > > Here is a bit. > > 1. John Baptist Leduc was born 2 Jun 1765 in North > East Coast of Detroit, Wayne, County, Michigan. > John married Elisabeth Peltier, daughter of Andrew > Peltier and Mary Catherine Meloche, on 29 May 1797 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. Elisabeth was born 11 Jul 1780 in Assumption, > Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. She > was buried 26 Sep 1809 in Assumption, Sandwich > Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. > They had the following children: > 2 F i. Frances Leduc was born 9 Mar 1798 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. > Frances married Francis Oullette, son of John Baptist > Oullette and Geneveva Oulette, on 24 Jun 1817 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. Francis was born 6 Apr 1794 in Assumption, > Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. > 3 F ii. Angelica Leduc was born 4 Aug 1799 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. > Angelica married John Chrysostom Casavan dit > Ladebauche, son of Peter Casavan dit Ladebauche and > Jane/Mary Jane Villers dit St Louis. John was born 28 > Jul 1798 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex > County, Ontario, Canada. He was buried 8 Sep 1832 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. > 4 F iii. Rose Leduc was born 15 Sep 1801 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. > Rose married Joseph Dubay, son of Andrew Dubay and > Margaret Noriau, on 3 Nov 1819 in Assumption, Sandwich > Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Joseph was > born in Terrebonne, Lower Canada. > 5 F iv. Catherine Leduc was born 20 Dec 1802 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. She was buried 17 Nov 1808 in Assumption, > Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. > 6 F v. Elisabeth Lucy Leduc was born 12 Dec 1804 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. > Elisabeth married Anthony Charon dit Cabanac, son of > Augustin Charon dit Cabanac and Mary Ann Jacques > Andre, on 20 Feb 1821 in Assumption, Sandwich > Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Anthony was > born 23 Sep 1800 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, > Essex County, Ontario, Canada. He was buried 3 Dec > 1856 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, > Ontario, Canada. > 7 F vi. Anastasia Leduc was born 10 Mar 1807 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. > Anastasia married (1) Hippolyte Gouyou, son of Louis > Gouyou and Teresa Janis/Janisse, on 17 Jan 1826 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. Hippolyte was born 6 Feb 1795 in Assumption, > Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. He > was buried 27 Jul 1837 in Assumption, Sandwich > Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. > Anastasia also married (2) Anthony Reaume, son of > Anthony Reaume and Charlotte Villers dit St Louis, on > 10 Sep 1843 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex > County, Ontario, Canada. Anthony was born 2 Apr 1813 > in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, > Ontario, Canada. > 8 F vii. Archange Leduc was born 1 Mar 1809 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. She was buried 26 Feb 1843 in Assumption, > Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. > Archange married Louis St. Amour, son of John Baptist > Payet dit St Amour and Josette Leduc, on 18 Jan 1831 > in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, > Ontario, Canada. Louis was born 14 Sep 1802 in > Montreal, Quebec, Canada. He was buried 6 Apr 1884 in > Windsor, Ontario, Canada. > > Don Davenport > > > > --- Gary Boivin <gboivin@telusplanet.net> wrote: > > Searching for the parents of the following couple > > > > Jean Baptiste LEDUC > > m May 29 1797 Windsor, Essex, Ontario > > Elisabeth PELLETIER-PELTIER > > > > I have one daughter for this couple... > > Elisabeth LEDUC > > born Dec 12 1804 Sandwich, Ontario > > m Feb 20 1821 Assumption, Sandwich, Ontario > > Antoine CHARON-dit-CABANAC > > born Sep 23 1800, died Dec 03 1856 in Sandwich > > s/o Augustin CHARON-dit-CABANAC & Anne M. ANDRE > > > > ¶ C'est comme ça que s' passe dans l' temps des > > fêtes > > Tap à la galette... Les garçon les filles avec > > C'est comme ça que s' passe dans l' temps des fêtes > > C'est comme ça que s' passe dans l' temps du jour de > > l'an¶ > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the > > new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Boivin To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 2:11 AM Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] Jean Baptiste LEDUC & Elisabeth PELLETIER Thank you for this info... I usually hesitate using Denissen's book because of all the spelling errors --- he anglicized all the names using a formula that was mainly his so it is sometimes difficult to figure out what the real name was. The Detroit Genealogical Society once considered trashing his book but decided that it was a valid research tool even with all the errors and spelling mistakes --- a tool to point where to look. Some easy names to figure out are: John Baptist = Jean Baptiste Mary Joseph = Marie Josephe or Josephte Andrew = Andre Geneva, Geneveva = Genevieve Angelica = Angelique (rare does a French name end in "a") (note I said RARE.. not NEVER) Anthony = Antoine or Antonio Lucy = Lucie DUBAY = DUBE But then we encounter Philip... I've found these to be Philippe, Philias, Philedelge, Philemon, Phileon or Philbert. Then there's James... Can be Jacques or Jamire. Joseph can be Josaphat, Jose, Josephin, or any other male name that he couldn't divine an English equivalent. And Nelson... Usually Narcisse but can be Naroise, Narcoise, or Naripe And Herman can be Hermel, Hermenegilde, Hermenez, Hermentin or Hermes. Elijah can be Elias or Lias, Eliphe, Elis oe Elizee I once had a copy of Ste-Anne's Répertoire and also Assumptions that I could cross-reference with but they went with my ex-wife in the divorce. <sigh> Have a GREAT weekend........... Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Davenport" <dfdavenport@yahoo.com> To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] Jean Baptiste LEDUC & Elisabeth PELLETIER > Gary, > > Much info on both families is in Denissen's "French > families of the Detroit River Region". > > Elizabeth Peltier is my 1st cousin 7 times removed. > Her husband John Baptist Leduc is my 3rd cousin 6 > times removed. (the old family tree gets a bit narrow > when dealing with a lot of the early French settlers. > > Note: John Baptist Leduc's parents were Phil Leduc and > Mary Joseph/Jossette Peltier. > > Here is a bit. > > 1. John Baptist Leduc was born 2 Jun 1765 in North > East Coast of Detroit, Wayne, County, Michigan. > John married Elisabeth Peltier, daughter of Andrew > Peltier and Mary Catherine Meloche, on 29 May 1797 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. Elisabeth was born 11 Jul 1780 in Assumption, > Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. She > was buried 26 Sep 1809 in Assumption, Sandwich > Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. > They had the following children: > 2 F i. Frances Leduc was born 9 Mar 1798 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. > Frances married Francis Oullette, son of John Baptist > Oullette and Geneveva Oulette, on 24 Jun 1817 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. Francis was born 6 Apr 1794 in Assumption, > Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. > 3 F ii. Angelica Leduc was born 4 Aug 1799 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. > Angelica married John Chrysostom Casavan dit > Ladebauche, son of Peter Casavan dit Ladebauche and > Jane/Mary Jane Villers dit St Louis. John was born 28 > Jul 1798 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex > County, Ontario, Canada. He was buried 8 Sep 1832 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. > 4 F iii. Rose Leduc was born 15 Sep 1801 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. > Rose married Joseph Dubay, son of Andrew Dubay and > Margaret Noriau, on 3 Nov 1819 in Assumption, Sandwich > Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Joseph was > born in Terrebonne, Lower Canada. > 5 F iv. Catherine Leduc was born 20 Dec 1802 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. She was buried 17 Nov 1808 in Assumption, > Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. > 6 F v. Elisabeth Lucy Leduc was born 12 Dec 1804 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. > Elisabeth married Anthony Charon dit Cabanac, son of > Augustin Charon dit Cabanac and Mary Ann Jacques > Andre, on 20 Feb 1821 in Assumption, Sandwich > Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. Anthony was > born 23 Sep 1800 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, > Essex County, Ontario, Canada. He was buried 3 Dec > 1856 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, > Ontario, Canada. > 7 F vi. Anastasia Leduc was born 10 Mar 1807 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. > Anastasia married (1) Hippolyte Gouyou, son of Louis > Gouyou and Teresa Janis/Janisse, on 17 Jan 1826 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. Hippolyte was born 6 Feb 1795 in Assumption, > Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. He > was buried 27 Jul 1837 in Assumption, Sandwich > Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. > Anastasia also married (2) Anthony Reaume, son of > Anthony Reaume and Charlotte Villers dit St Louis, on > 10 Sep 1843 in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex > County, Ontario, Canada. Anthony was born 2 Apr 1813 > in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, > Ontario, Canada. > 8 F vii. Archange Leduc was born 1 Mar 1809 in > Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, > Canada. She was buried 26 Feb 1843 in Assumption, > Sandwich Township, Essex County, Ontario, Canada. > Archange married Louis St. Amour, son of John Baptist > Payet dit St Amour and Josette Leduc, on 18 Jan 1831 > in Assumption, Sandwich Township, Essex County, > Ontario, Canada. Louis was born 14 Sep 1802 in > Montreal, Quebec, Canada. He was buried 6 Apr 1884 in > Windsor, Ontario, Canada. > > Don Davenport > > > > ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237