Larry - I enjoyed reading the 19th C. Webster's definition of education. I am just wondering when the "manners" part was dropped! Sure seems in short supply sometimes. I'm 46 years old and I still address my friends' parents as Mr. and Mrs. so and so unless they tell me otherwise. Younger people don't do that anymore among other things........ sorry an off topic comment generated by a frustrating day at work with young lazy and mouthy people. Terry