-----Original Message----- From: "James P. LaLone" <jplalone@prodigy.net> Sent: Feb 20, 2005 9:52 AM To: NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NISHNAWBE] NATIVE GENEALOGY RESEARCH GROUP We will be having our monthly research meeting this coming Thursday. It is held in Lansing at my house. If interested please contact me directly & immediately, thanks, Jim. Jim: I live in Georgia and cannot possibly attend. But, I wonder if you can do me a favor? My gg grandfather was Alexis De La Morandiere, b. 1806; d. 1900 in Killarney, ON. He married Mile L'Aigle, d. 1834. She was perhaps from Nipissing, ON and may have been Ojibwe. His mother was Sai-Sai-Go-No-Kwe who was either Ottawa or Ojibwe. We know she was a member of a band of Ojibwe in ON but oral tradition holds that she was an Ottawa, born in MI. They had two girls: Alelaide, b. June 1830, and Pauline, b. 17 Mar 1832. Pauline was my great grandmother. My query to the research group concerns Mile L'Aigle. She may have been the d/o a chief named Eagle. I think this is speculation. Actually, I know nothing about her and would like to know everything. I haven't a clue as to how to find her. I have not found her death record, or anything else. Do you think anyone there might know any of the details of her life?--or how to research her? After her death Alexis remarried and raised another family. The girls were raised by their grandparents-I believe. Art Powell ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Art - > My gg grandfather was Alexis De La Morandiere, b. 1806; d. 1900 in Killarney, ON. He > married Mile L'Aigle, d. 1834. She was perhaps from Nipissing, ON and may have been > Ojibwe. His mother was Sai-Sai-Go-No-Kwe who was either Ottawa or Ojibwe. We > know she was a member of a band of Ojibwe in ON but oral tradition holds that she > was an Ottawa, born in MI. They had two girls: Alelaide, b. June 1830, and Pauline, > b. 17 Mar 1832. Pauline was my great grandmother. This clipped from a gedcom sent to me by Jim LaLone ... 4. Etienne-Augustin ROCBERT- LAMARANDIERE b. 2 May 1767, Varennes, Montreal, Qc, CAN, occupation fur trader, m. 1800 at Mackinac (Mackinac Co) MI tto Josette SAISAIGONOKWEE (b. c1783, poss. Kalamazoo Co. MI, d. Nov 1868, Killarney ONT). Etienne-Augustin died 1 May 1859 at Killarney ONT, buried: 3 May 1859, Killarney ONT. Established trading post at Muskegon before 1810. Or b. c.1784. Founder of Killarney, Ont. Josette: Sauteuse or Ottawa. Aka SASEGANOKWE, aka Falling Snow. Children: i Josephte DeLAMORANDIERE b. 1801, Kalamazoo, Kalamazoo Co., MI, m. (1) in Drummond Is., MI, Thomas PRIOR, m. (2) _____ PECK, occupation Cpt. Josephte died 1854, Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI. ii Julia LAMORANDIERE b. May 1804, bp. 21 Aug 1818, Detroit, Wayne Co., MI, m. 28 Jul 1825, in Drummond Is., MI, Jean-Baptiste ROUSSEAU. Julia died 1903, Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa Co., MI. iii Alexis DeLAMORANDIERE b. 6 Jul 1806, Mackinac, Mackinac Co., MI, m. (1) 1829, in Penetanguishene, Ont., CAN, Mile L'AIGLE, m. (2) 1842, Angelique HUGHES. Alexis died 6 Mar 1900, Killarney, Ont., CAN. 5. iv Aker/Aken/Etienne/Steve b. c. 1808/10. 6. v Adelaide-Marie b. 10 Oct 1810. 7. vi Charlotte b. 1812. 8. vii Thadeus b. 1814. viii Charles DeLAMORANDIERE b. Jun 1816, Mackinac, Mackinac Co., MI, m. in Penetanguishene, Ont., CAN, Josephte SHEPARD. ix Jacques DeLAMORANDIERE b. 1818, Drummond Is., MI, d. Jan 1837, Penetanguishene, Ont., CAN. x Frederic DeLAMORANDIERE b. 15 Aug 1828, Spanish River, Ont., CAN, m. (1) 20 Aug 1868, in Wikwemikong, CAN, Mary MATCHISIBI, m. (2) 1895, in Southampton, Ont., CAN, Mary GRANDVILLE. Frederic died 1902, Cape Croker. > My query to the research group concerns Mile L'Aigle. She may have been the d/o > a chief named Eagle. I think this is speculation. Actually, I know nothing about her > and would like to know everything. I haven't a clue as to how to find her. I have > not found her death record, or anything else. Do you think anyone there might know > any of the details of her life?--or how to research her? After her death Alexis remarried > and raised another family. The girls were raised by their grandparents-I believe. Don't know how the French say "eagle" but in Anishinaabemowin a Bald Eagle = Migizi, a Golden Eagle = Giniw ... there isn't a generic form for "eagle" as each particular animal species had its own name. >============================== Below clipped from datafile relating to Thaddeus LAMARANDIER (c.1842) who served in a Michigan sharpshooter regiment and was killed 12 May 1864 at Spotsylvania VA. -- It is likely that Etienne LaMORANDIER handled Joseph BAILLY's post on the Muskegon; his name appears on BAILLY ledger sheets of 6 Aug 1803 and 2 Aug 1804. BAILLY had traded on the Grand as early as 1793 and his papers suggest activity on the Muskegon, an important route between the north central Lower Peninsula and the important winter hunting / spring gathering grounds of lower Lake Michigan. Traders would bring winter furs to Mackinaw along the Indian trails each spring, crossing the Grand at Campau's and the Muskegon at Truckee's [Joseph Troutier], then following along the north side of the River to Old Womens Bend where it joined the trail north; when the first road was built north out of Grand Rapids to Pentwater it closely followed this trail (portion now known as Crooked Road between Newaygo - Fremont). Etiene Lamarendier established a post at the mouth of the Muskegon River sometime prior to 1800, perhaps in association with Joseph Bailly (who had been trading in the area as early as 1793). The Bailly account books show the name Lamarandier in 1802. In 1810, Alexander Etiene Lamarandier was born at Muskegon Lake. The elder Lamarandier was French, but had sworn allegiance to the English which he considered binding even past the end of the Revolution. Bailly and Lamarandier were held, briefly, as British spies during the 1812 war. Lamarandier relocated to Drummond Island where he supplied the Brits with corn & hay during the 1820's, then returned to the Muskegon Lake area. The younger Lamarandier married a "pure blood Ottawa woman and opened a post on the flats at the Old Women's Bend on the Muskegon (about two miles below modern Newaygo) where a small community developed, aka Indian Town (what else ...); eventually, lumbering on the Muskegon required higher water and the flats were flooded, ending the post and the village, although the building remained until 1917. The name Lamarandier was hard to pronounce and so it was discarded and the middle name Etiene was corrupted into Aiken. Alex Lamarandier had sons Tom (d. 1931), Jacob, and Robert. Tom's daughter was married to an Alex BROWN and lived near the old post at ___ as late as 1960. [42 TOTEM POLE #2 (2 Feb 1959)] Etienne fathered Alexander Etienne on the Muskegon [Muskegon Lake] in 1810 where he grew to manhood, married a full-blood Odawa, and eventually established a post at Old Womens Bend, two miles below present Newaygo on the Grand Rapids - Pentwater Indian trail. A cluster of 35-40 cabins grew around the post and a Catholic church was built to host monthly services at so-called Indian Town. When lumbering began in the region and it was 'necessary' to dam the river the bring the logs down from the interior, the village flat would be flooded and many of the cabins had to be moved to higher grounds. The LaMORANDIER cabin had clapboards and remained habitable long after most of the others were dillapidated or taken down, and many LaMORANDIERs were born there (Jacob, Robert, Tom Aiken, sons of Alex), although Americans making their way into the area had trouble with the name -- it became Etiene, and then Aiken. The post was torn down in 1917 for a gravel pit. [A Spooner 1975?] Gordan S. Hubbard and Jacques Defrain wintered in 1819 in an abandoned post on Muskegon Lake which likely was the BAILLY / LaMORANDIER site. --- [<1810] [?Alexander] Etienne LAMARANDIER had established a trade post on the Muskegon by 1810 [note: see above] and may have traded into Newaygo Co. {H L Spooner 1954: 4} --- Etienne was still farming near Newaygo in the 1891; had been in employ of or dealing with Antoine Campeau into 1840's {Baxter 1895: 273} --- [1894] "In July, Louis Etienne LAMARANDIER, the oldest Indian in the county, whose home was at the Indian settlement at Old Woman's Bend below Newaygo, was found dead in a sweating place in the woods which he had constructed. He was found under some blankets draped over a wooden framework. He had used hot stones to produce the sweat." {Spooner 1954: 291-292} --- None of this may be on your target, but hope you find it at least semi-interesting. Any & all information about Thaddeus (c1842-1863) is certainly welcome. regards - rdw