Hello...I am confused as why I have been getting mail in my private box from you...and I supposedly your website. I have a native american website also on msn ......but dont undestand this...Can you help me here lol...blessings Annie "James P. LaLone" <jplalone@prodigy.net> wrote: Since I really don't know the language I can't give you translations on the <br>names, but can make a few comments. Most female names end <br>with -quay/qua/que/kwe/guay which can translate as "woman".<br><br>The Ke-she is like "gitchie" meaning great as in big or large or of primary <br>importance - other spelling variations are <br>Kay-che/Kay-she/Kay-zhe//Ke-che/Ke-she/Ke-zhe/Kishi.<br><br>As to being of the same clan, that would be difficult to answer unless each <br>individual has been researched. Originally the small band belonged to the <br>same family or extended family, meeting or gathering a few times a year into <br>the larger bands which would belong to the same clan. However after the <br>white man came in with wars & diseases this was not usually the case. Small <br>units refromed into larger groups, sometimes being related to one degree or <br>another.<br><br>Most bands in the 1850's probably were related! to some degree or another <br>within their tribe or group, ie. most of Pay-Shaw-Se-Gay's band probably <br>were related, however I have never seen a study showing this situation. <br>There are of course tribes getting Fed. recognition which may show <br>relationship with everyone else in the tribe, but how many extend back the <br>base roll of the tribe to see if all are related or not. If you decide to <br>do this I would be very interested in seeing your results.<br>Good luck, Jim.<br><br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From: <RodGreene@aol.com><br>To: <NISHNAWBE-L@rootsweb.com><br>Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 2:33 PM<br>Subject: Re: [NISHNAWBE] Re: Totems, Clans and Names<br><br><br>> Hi All,<br>><br>> Still working on my stonewall with Josette De Rosier.<br>><br>> Documents I have say that she was a member of Chief Pay Shaw Se Gay's Band <br>> of<br>> Grand River Ottawa where a list of the band is shown in the 1859 Grand <br>> River<br>> Ottawa annuity roll.<br>><br>> The q! uestion I have is this. Would all members of the band be of the same<br>> clan and would tey have the same totem.<br>><br>> Secondly could anyone advise me what the following names meant that appear <br>> on<br>> the above roll and which ones are men or women?.<br>><br>> Ke She Go Pe Nay Se<br>><br>> Mush Ke Aw Naw Quot<br>><br>> Shay An Se No Quay<br>><br>> Thanks for your help.<br>><br>> Rod Greene<br>><br>><br>> ==============================<br>> Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more.<br>> Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: <br>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx<br>><br>> <br><br><br><br>==============================<br>Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the<br>last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx<br><br> Blessings , Annie Love. Peace, and Harmony to the lives I touch each day. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term'